So far Bitcointalk has maintained a pretty censorship free operational mode.  That's why I've been using it for 9 years.  If/when it falls I'll move on...and I really do need a good excuse to set up a 'darkweb' navigation system and implement some modicum of anonymity anyway.

I can be somewhat vocal on controversial issues.  Yet, with only a few minor exceptions, I've been allowed to make contrary viewpoints heard.  Some of these mis-applications of 'the rules' have probably been accidental.  There was one incident in the distant past where it seemed that a particularly 'activist' moderator was given the boot by Theymos.

More recently spendulus tried to run to mommy moderator and get me banned for a critique of Zionism that he didn't like.  Presumably he did, and presumably the moderator staff told him to get bent because I never saw those posts deleted.  Even if I detest the guy's methods I'm still happy to send him merit points when he makes me laugh.

This thing with it's global lockdowns looks more and more like some sort of a contrived social experiment.  All kinds of interesting behavioral observations are popping up.

I would suggest that one of the most useful datapoints would be how manipulable entire leadership chains up to the national level when it comes to creating an implementing policy.  Can, through a combination of domestic pressure induced through extra-national social media giants and peer pressure from other national leaderships, a country's leadership be induced to follow a particular policy set and protocol?

This could be a relevant question to ask.  Under the recent monetary regime a very effective method of inducing policy was developed through 'loans' provided by the IMF, World Bank, etc.  It's unclear how much of this infrastructure can be overhauled for use under the coming monetary regime, and especially if the new one differs fundamentally from our current debt-backed one.

I got censored off my own thread here for posting about the flu vaccine apparently and linked to little known information that the flu vaccine seems to have unusual interaction with coronavirus specifically.

Earlier when a genuine reply to a native post on this thread was censored I was given two rules which were supposed to apply.  They didn't, but I didn't bother to worry about it.  It's a fairly well thought out in-lined response, but the censor glued it on to the original post.

Back in the day it used to be the mod who did the censorship work was at least listed so in case they made a mistake it might be corrected.  In this way, if a moderator was abusing their position a person could complain.  If Theymos agreed he could get rid of the moderator (and protect the integrity of the platform.)  I think this happened at least once.

Anyway, as I say, knowing what was censored is a good indication that the information might be interesting.

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If wannabe Dr. Oileo actually wanted to help people he would point out that studies show that the seasonal flu vaccine makes it easier to catch cononavirus.  He knows this is the case because I edjumucated him about it on the other thread.

He won't do it though.  He'll just censor this post so he can continue to play doctor on bitcointalk and make his masters in the medical/industrial complex happy at the same time.

And mainstream will actively push everyone to get the flu vaccine and make even more of them available.  Funny how they can get an extra 400,000 flu vaccines pumped out but getting enough coronavirus test kits is just to big a task.  To hard for the U.S. I should say.  Other countries don't seem to be having this problem.

More and more people around the world are starting to call this the American virus.  This because on one side there is increasing scientific evidence that the first exposure was not in China (and certainly not in a market in Wuhan) and on the other side you have assertions from the likes of Trump and Pompeo with no evidence whatsoever.  Kinda like the Assad's 'chemical weapons attacks' which are clearly non-existant, or Saddam's 'weapons of mass destruction' which was similarly a lie.

I don't think you'll probably have a problem with (educated) people around the world calling this the American virus, right?  How about the 'Spanish Flu' which had nothing to do with Spain and got it's name because of war time censorship and propaganda (and, parenthetically, looks like it wasn't a flu but a nasty concoction cooked up the the Rockefeller Institute while they were (reportedly) trying to make vaccines from horse puss.)

Would you be OK with calling it 'the Israeli Virus' if it (or some strains of it) ended up being associated with Israel who are not signatories to the biological weapons convention?  Or has 'virus', 'parasite', 'infection', etc been put on the ADL's (and thus the U.S.'s) list of antisemitic words by now?

Silly rabbit!  You don't need a legitimate, coherent, or logically valid argument as long as you echo the standard approved position of corp/gov/media.  You haven't figured that out already?

I do expect a '2nd wave' of 'covid-19' it for one reason and one reason only:

Right now they cannot make a credible argument that they have been able to develop a vaccine for 'it'.  When the '2nd wave' hits the story will be that the vaccine has been developed and has undergone at least a little bit of testing.

As such, you can expect to gun at the back of your head as you are force-marched toward Gate's force vaccination + ID2020 tagging station.

The ugly truth about vaccines, their dangers, dismal failures, and devastation to the population is coming out.  Now even doctors are backing out (finally!) as the WHO has recently noted.  These people are desperate to get it (forced vaccination and unique ID tagging) done before the dam bursts wide open.

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I also expect continued trouble getting test kits in the U.S..  The reason why is that there is no legitimate reason to force a person to get the vaccine who has recovered from the illness unless they can make the 're-infection' story fly which is questionable.  They are going to have to say that the forced vaccination is 'harmless and necessary for the collective good.'

I do expect it to be possible to get a 'certified' test and escape the force vaccination and tagging, but quite expensive.  Rich people have no interest in getting themselves and their kids 'the mark'.  Probably they'll be strung along with the idea that they can avoid it, but the trap will snap on most of them anyway.  You know; 'rich and poor, free and bond'.

Now that's a right proper troll post!  Out of deference to your effort I won't even trim it.

Just FWIW, it's not very accurate in my case, but I'm also not un-vaxed.  I just got an earlier vaccine schedule formulated back before the vaccine companies were given blanket legal immunity from harm cause by their vaccines and thus took a little more interest in safety research.

It was also back in a time when the autism rate was 1/10,000 (now running about 1/40) and when it was almost unheard of to see a kid with a nebulizer, a peanut allergy, an auto-immune disease.  In fact it was rare for a kid be on almost any prescription medication at all.  Now it's like 1 in 2 kids are on some med...and Big Pharma is laughing all the way to the bank.

You don't 'start from scratch' whether you are selectively breeding a tomato or whether you are inserting genes to create genetically modified organisms. 

Germ warfare development has been going on for over 100 years, and the techniques of selective 'breeding' are how it works and why biological warfare labs are usually called 'animal disease research centers.'  (I say 'breeding' because most of the biological agents don't mate in the sense of higher animals.  They do mix genetic material though, and there are a variety of ways to enhance this.)

In short, your observation means nothing relevant to the conversation.


It's not surprising in part because that is the goal of 'predictive programming' as well as general propaganda.

People who have a clue about this stuff are kind of in awe of the set of 'gain of function' parameters observed in SARS-cov-2, and that is one of the main reasons for considering both a natural as well as an 'artificially enhanced' explanation.

If SARS-cov-2 acted like just another seasonal coronavirus then the suspicions about it would not exist.  And, of course, the whole world would not be in lockdown.

A piece of text imported from a different thread for people to consider as things further unfold:

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I'll again present the hypothesis I put forward at the start of this thing probably several months ago now:

 - Third country attacks, or using their control over U.S. government apparatus makes uses the U.S. to attack China.  Also leaves a wide trail of bread-crumbs leading back to the U.S..  (Bolton's departure is still shrouded in mystery by the way.)

 - China counter-attacks the U.S. in kind.

 - Both the U.S. and China are severely weakened or perhaps destroyed in the conflict.  Rest of 'the nations' suffer significant collateral damage.

 - Third country steps in to fill the vacuum.

Bingo.

I'll say that for _this_ one Corbett is probably right about 'how will it end.'  It will just blow over and things will relax and we'll go about life as usual...for a while.  Of course the economic turmoil will have an explanation which holds the banks harmless.  The vast transfers of wealth that this thing has already accomplished will be swept under the rug and much of the kleptocratic infrastructure will remain in idle mode.  Again, 'for a while.'

The biggie is that when the next coronavirus (or whatever they want out of their grab-bag) is rolled out people will not only welcome medical martial law, they will demand it because 'it saved our lives in early 2020'.  Especially the totalitarian Chinese methods which big swaths of the U.S. population will be demanding.

I no longer think they'll roll the micro-chiping or tatoos [or brain aluminum AAHS constellation fingerprint reading] out for 'covid-19'.  We'll likely get it the next time around though.  That could still be 2020 (so Gate's ID2020 project lives up to it's name) and I think that there is a good chance that it will be marketed as a '2nd wave' of some strain of the same virus.  That will give an excuse for why the vaccine is ready.

One version of a timeline (with links):  https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/03/16/coronavirus-the-plot-thickens-with-timeline-review/

Here's a part of it:


Edit:  Here's a link to Romanoff's latest article:

  https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-all-truth-three-stages/5706329


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I'll again present the hypothesis I put forward at the start of this thing probably several months ago now:

 - Third country attacks, or using their control over U.S. government apparatus makes uses the U.S. to attack China.  Also leaves a wide trail of bread-crumbs leading back to the U.S..  (Bolton's departure is still shrouded in mystery by the way.)

 - China counter-attacks the U.S. in kind.

 - Both the U.S. and China are severely weakened or perhaps destroyed in the conflict.  Rest of 'the nations' suffer significant collateral damage.

 - Third country steps in to fill the vacuum.

I personally find it quite believable because of the behavior patterns of Trump and his team.

Whether intentional or not, more and more circumstantial evidence, and more and more hard science is stacking up indicating that the first cases occurred in the United States.

From the Trump side all we have is 'because we say so' type assertions that 'China is to blame' with no evidence provided.  They seem to be relying almost exclusively on a sense of patriotism where in order to be a 'red-blooded American' one has to believe with conviction anything uttered by an American official.

Just say you are a doctor and copy/paste some World Health Organization material.  80% of the people on this forum will believe it without a second thought.

If I were a scammer or an evil person I could make a ton of money off of sheeple or get them to wash down their tide-pods with a gallon of soy sauce.  Or get them to use my super-secure coin mixer like e_o_l_e_o does.

If so, the dude badly needs to fire his ghost writer and hire a new one!

Firstly, you are just plain wrong:  From: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4165321/ (as well as the first thing on the top of Google from a simple search.)


Secondly, it doesn't matter since I was thinking more of breastfeeding anyway.

The rest of your stuff seems to be the same kind of babble you are known for and since it is not relevant it isn't worth the time to go through and try to correct...when it is even clear what point you were trying to make...if you were even trying.

It's not for 'no reason'.  It's the largely staged excuse to cover the implosion of the USD world reserve currency, and likely what little is left of the U.S. as a nation.  Makes room for a new order.

It's pretty much over, boys.  Better to move on if you are a former American.  America was 'the big prize' and most of the nano-thermite was used on it's core columns.  Even if 'the violent among them will stumble', the U.S. will still collapse because it was priority #1.

Some of us have a good understanding of what the United States was about, and even a little bit of a recollection of the trailing end of it's promise when some vestiges of our values could still be observed.  It might be possible to bring some of these values to a tiny part of a different country, but it's also likely that all other 'nations' will get sucked into the same black hole.

It's also possible that there will be an opportunity to rejuvenate the U.S. to a degree.  Maybe in 42 months from ?/?/? (where ?/?/? may or may not be last Friday the 13th.)

The antigen (proper word for your 'the strain') count is one thing that the so-called 'anti-vaxxer' are NOT worried about.  Recently the pro-vax side is desperately trying to bring it up over and over again and pretend like the anti-vaxxers think it's a problem.  The reason why is that it isn't a problem and they have proof it isn't.  'We' never voiced concern about it.  It's just a wee bit to complex for most people though so I don't doubt that this will be lost when the slather on the propaganda about the 'mountain of studies' they have.


The word you are looking for is 'adjuvant.'  It's an irritant which sort of turbo-charges the immune system and is necessary to make certain vaccine classes 'work' (where 'work' simply means get the titer count to a certain level defined in regulatory documents.)

One of the troubles with adjuvants is that they make the immune system go crazy not only against the antigen of the vaccine, but with everything else it's doing besides (which includes knocking off badly behaving or retired cells of one's own body.)  Instant auto-immunity problems.  Usually they use Aluminum salts as adjuvants.  They've tried other things like squalene which is similar to the oil lubricating one's joints.  Guess what that brought on.  If you guessed arthritis, congratulations.


Another 'no shit' moment...of many when talking to you.  I would add that without a lot of them human life is impossible.


One reason is that the vaccines are undergoing 'failure'.  They are working less and less well as time goes by.

People who had these minor childhood 'right of passage' ailments (like me) never get it again because they created the natural whole immune response.  On top of that, women who had the ailments in childhood retain the antibodies and pass them to their own children protecting them in the first year of life when getting mumps, measles, chicken-pox, etc is actually a high enough risk to worry about.


Let me try to explain the paper to you.

 - They worked on developing a SARS coronavirus vaccine and in animal testing found a rather odd problem:

 -    animal subjects which were vaccinated ended up dieing like flies when exposed real disease came around.

 - The vaccine 'worked' in that the victim developed antibodies, but:

 - It seems as though _in this case_ the vaccine primed the immune system for a rather extreme over-reaction.  (cytokine storm.)

 - They warned explicitly to be super careful about this phenomenon if a vaccine is tried in humans.

So vaccine development for SARS coronavirus ceased...or did it?  Some people wonder if some of the victims in China had been part of phase 1 or phase 2 trials of just such a vaccine.  Of course even if this were the case it would be deeply covered up, and a Chinese doesn't really have the right to even know if they were part of a trial.  Same with U.S. servicemen.

The moral of the story is that there are very good reasons why vaccines SHOULD undergo long trials and shortcuts should not be taken.

I would point out the dengue fever is another one of these unusual instance where re-challenge was problematic.  Exposure to a 2nd strain after the first (or after the vaccine) creates a MORE dangerous disease than otherwise.  So the vaccine if given at all should only be given to someone who has already had Dengue once.  This was overlooked in The Philippines and it resulted in a scandal.  Thankfully for the Filipinos it also induced them to be a little more inquisitive and careful about vaccines.  Nobody likes to be a guinea pig, and especially when the developers are scientifically negligent and the public health officials are bought off by Big Pharma who feel like they can get away with almost anything in developing countries.

I suggested 'look it up'.  Not guesstimate about things which you don't know.  Unless you want to continue to look like a jack-ass of course.

Here, I'll even throw you a bone although I doubt that you are now or ever will be in a position to actually own property and what-not.

Ya, ummm, before you rush out to get your necessarily poorly tested coronavirus vaccine next year, you may want to have a peek at this:

  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3335060/pdf/pone.0035421.pdf

Actually, that's not really aimed at you, Franky.  It's more for people who understand scientific stuff a little bit.  But maybe a friend can help you out before you make a big mistake.

You probably don't have much experience with business stuff, but there is this little thing called 'return receipt' which is used for important legal papers and notifications.  It serves as legal proof that the recipient actually got a piece of mail.  Look it up.