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241  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: March 06, 2024, 06:02:57 PM
If Man City solved all the questions in the last match, it will be a serious game for Madrid today... One goal has not decided anything yet, but of course at home Madrid must do everything possible to win... Not in vain bookmakers give odds on their win at 1.56, which in my opinion is not small... I think it will be a very interesting match...
yes of course Madrid must win against Leipzig later after all they have to get a victory to continue to the next round, tonight's match is held at the Santiago Bernabéu stadium, of course the home aura is more frightening for the opponent, I think so that the bookie is very confident for madrid will get a victory in this match. 1.56 in my opinion is small if looking for a big money multiplier, but enough to get pocket money if madrid get a victory as I expect, let's bet and watch tonight's match, I think Anceloti needs to stop Man City in the final.
242  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing at gambling on: March 06, 2024, 05:01:18 PM
Thankfully it didn't happen to me but if this ever happens, I don't think I'll be able to love that person again, that kind of blunder in a relationship is definitely a big way to break the heart of your partner and either you're going to stay on that relationship and slowly let that sinking feeling that you've got eat you away while they don't care about you even if they're saying that they do or you can achieve peace of mind divorcing them, this is the most painful of the two choices but the other one is a slow death so if I'm ever in that situation I'm definitely going to be choosing that divorce part, it's not till death do us part when you're partner or couple isn't trying to keep you both alive.
You wont really be able to say that specially if its his/her first time on committing out such mistake on which you would definitely be still considering it up on forgiving him/her on which we do know that it wont really be that so easy on having some divorce on someone on whom you do love for long years. It isnt really just that enough reason that you would really be considering out such step just because of having that kind of problem.Yes, each person is really that different but it would really be just that too much if you do have those kind of conclusive approach on things as if you are perfect.
We are just humans on which we are really that prone to error and mistakes and if things turns out to be already that severe and uncontrollable, then this is the moment that you would really
be making out such decisions but as much as possible  then it would really be best that you shouldnt really be coming up with this kind of solution in mind specially if this one is that firstly been done
on his/her entire life. Making those serious talks would really be a great help on this regard.
I agree with you if it's the first time a mistake is made, and it should indeed give a chance to change himself to be better again and be able to build the economy back to be better or return to the previous position where your partner did not make a mistake in gambling that spent all the money he had, but that thought I also agree if our partner makes the same mistake continuously, even though he wants to say to change but still gambles impulsively and does not change at all then divorce is the last resort to avoid our minds from the stress of dealing with impulsive gamblers. I think it is not only men but also women, because today there are many women gamblers.
243  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC ATH in local currency on: March 06, 2024, 03:56:34 PM
Forget about local currencies. BTC is about to reach a new ATH in USD since it's already closing in on 67 grand at the moment and is showing no signs of slowing down anytime soon.

In absolute terms, the dollar also reached a new ATH. However, if you look at the inflation of the USD since the last ATH, the actual ATH is still around 20-23% away, as the USD of three years ago was worth more than the USD today. Of course, I understand why so many people are celebrating this for symbolic reasons, but from a rational point of view it is not a new best mark if you consider the actual value.

yes if we look at the value side of course it has a difference but a more general benchmark is the same amount, that can be read in general and easily.


@ndutndut @ red4slash etc.
I'm glad you guys realize it too and we are one of the people who take the right steps to save our money in Bitcoin, thus the value of the money we have does not decrease and on the contrary, the value we have increases. We will get ATH bitcoin before the halving, the halving calculation is still quite long in the next month or so, it might be enough for us to feel better in terms of finance for not keeping our money entirely in FIAT, be a smart store of value because bitcoin has a cycle or moments.
244  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Berburu Airdrop Hasil Gede on: March 06, 2024, 02:40:57 PM
Ya airdrop itu untung-untungan gan, dan dari kebanyakan airdrop yang memberikan reward lumayan kita harus lebih aktif di jaringan mereka, dan mengikuti tasknya dari awal, sementara itu kita sekarang rata-rata airdrop basis hitungannya poin dan itu yang cukup melelahkan tidak sama seperti dulu, beberapa kali bisa mendapatkan JP hanya mengandalkan airdrop telegram dan tidak terlalu banyak task seperti sekarang ini. BTW retrodrop untuk sekarang lebih menjanjikan daripada airdrop yang lain, itu si sesuai dengan apa yang kerjakan walaupun tidak sedikit juga ada beberapa airdrop yang memang memberikan reward juga walaupun tanpa mengeluarkan uang untuk menjalani tasknya.

BTW untuk referensi tambahan ane selain di twitter dan di telegram, juga menggunakan website ini untuk mencari airdrop.
245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it ethical to break your gambling rules on: March 05, 2024, 06:22:30 AM
If you feel no guilt and it didn't affected your finance, why think of it as something unethical. There's no legal issues here but only your thinking if it is ethical or not. You can judge it based on how you foresee these things. If you're gambling with care and you're responsible enough, you can classify yourself as a responsible gambler that don't affect your other affairs and welfare and you're not too problematic with money. The problem with other gamblers is that they're making things like big deal even when they're not. Don't put that much thinking on these things and gamble as much as you can based on how deep your pockets are because sometime, you'll get to stop and have to focus somewhere else and in other activities as you get older.
yes it would be ethical if we look at it normally, because the OP said that he did not exceed his reasonable limit of 30% of his overall money, and in my opinion it is also the case that as long as he knows the worst limit he is gambling it will have no effect on finances. the thing to watch out for is when he doesn't feel guilty and instead continues until the spending limit exceeds the 30% he himself mentions, in my opinion as long as it is within the control of the person, and calculates the risk well is an ethical act. The rules that a person makes are a plan for himself. and a lot of rules are conditional or dynamic depending on the situation of the person himself.
246  Economy / Economics / BTC ATH in local currency on: March 04, 2024, 05:16:12 AM
Inflation in my country shows a big gap with the dollar, when bitcoin touches the price level of $64k, ATH 2021 has been touched by our country's currency which is IDR 980 million / rounded up 1M, while in 2021 the value of the Dollar equivalent to my country's Rupiah is approximately $69k to get the amount of 980 million / 1M. Here it is clear that for 2-3 years we have experienced much crazier inflation, with a difference of $5k. That's heartbreaking to me, and luckily I kept most of my savings in BTC, and today it's getting a much better price increase, and it's enough for me to spend a year with my family if I sell it.

I would like to ask if in your country BTC has reached the old ATH or even the new ATH at the current price if using your local currency?
247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: March 04, 2024, 04:58:02 AM
It's clear from the games Girona have brought with their current form, and although Girona have regressed slightly and are no longer at the top of the table, when compared to Mallorca it's certainly a far cry overall, Mallorca are not a big money obstacle for Girona in my opinion, it will be an easy game for Girona, I don't mean to underestimate Mallorca but either way we need to think realistically with the circumstances of both teams, and yes the ball is round, I don't deny it, maybe luck can be had in the match against Girona, it can happen.

Well, I also agree that Girona should not underestimate Mallorca. Because we have seen a lot of weaker teams win against bigger teams just because the bigger team underestimated the smaller one. In their last meetup, Mallorca won 6 times and Girona managed to win 5 times. So I don't think they should underestimate their opponent. But at the same time, they should not get anything less than three points.

Actually, Girona will be motivated to win this match. Because they have to, so that they can stay ahead of Barcelona. But I have a feeling that Barcelona might actually catch up and overtake Girona.
So far the match is running, mallorca vs Girona is still running with a draw score, and the match is quite pressing Mallorca in terms of ball possession, but the shots are still controlled by Mallorca, it shows that mallorca can still penetrate the Girona defense even though only one shot towards the Barcelona goal.

Girona are still looking for gaps in the weaknesses built by Michel, maybe we will see Girona get a goal at the end of the first half, or maybe vice versa if there are mistakes made by the Girona team. I don't want this match to end with a draw and maybe even a defeat for Girona, and that will make it easier for Barcelona to compete again with Real Madrid at the top of the standings.
The Spanish La Liga game between Mallorca and Girona is in the final minutes of the first half and Mallorca are currently leading in by a goal to nil against the second most consistent team in the Spanish league this season. The home team took the lead in the 33rd minute of the game and are still trying to stop their visitors from equalizing while trying to device a means to double the lead. Girona must make sure they turn things around in this game and win it if they really want to remain in good position to continue their title chase this season. However, it's obvious that the home team would not allow Girona to claim all three points from the game but that doesn't mean that Girona aren't capable of coming back into the game.
Unfortunately enough, the match ended 1-0 and Girona lost, they could not create opportunities that resulted in goals for them, Mallorca celebrated their victory and avenged their revenge, like what I said that maybe Mallorca will get lucky because the ball is round, the competition is quite interesting and Girona must resign themselves to defeat, as well as Barcelona will easily overtake Girona, because the difference in points today is only 1 point, Girona's hopes of becoming Napoli in the last season of Serie A seem unlikely, maybe Girona will stay at position 4-5 at the end of this season.

And unfortunately my bet lost.
248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: March 04, 2024, 04:23:01 AM
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Against Freiburg, Bayern's attack wasn't up to par, and their defense was particularly poor tonight. They managed to score 2 goals through individual efforts, but overall, their chance creation and playmaking were subpar, and their defense was equally lacking.
As for Harry Kane, he seems to be having a stroke of bad luck. Despite his goal-scoring efforts, his team's defense is conceding heavily. It's puzzling how things don't seem to be going his way despite his contributions.
Harry Kane seems to have to really realize that it is increasingly difficult for his team to win the Bundesliga title this season. The team's performance is very unstable even though so far Harry Kane has scored 27 goals and 5 assists in 24 appearances. Ironically, he was the Bundesliga's top scorer in his first season but his team will almost certainly fail to win the title this season.

I agree that Harry Kane has given his best, but the performance of the defenders has been really poor. Tuchel really has to make a good impression before he leaves Bayern Munich at the end of the season, he needs to make improvements and improvements even though today Leverkusen looks like they will increase the points gap to 10 points.
but indeed in logic and appearance Harry Kane has extraordinary abilities and makes a good contribution to Bayern Munich, but somehow it seems like there are other things that do prevent him from getting the championship, we see the previous season, Bayern Munich did have a setback too but they managed to bounce back and get the trophy, but today it looks weaker since Kane's arrival to the squad, although Kane made an extraordinary contribution, but as if other players seemed to have regressed, and maybe that can be said to be a curse in my opinion.
249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: March 03, 2024, 06:03:41 PM
It's clear from the games Girona have brought with their current form, and although Girona have regressed slightly and are no longer at the top of the table, when compared to Mallorca it's certainly a far cry overall, Mallorca are not a big money obstacle for Girona in my opinion, it will be an easy game for Girona, I don't mean to underestimate Mallorca but either way we need to think realistically with the circumstances of both teams, and yes the ball is round, I don't deny it, maybe luck can be had in the match against Girona, it can happen.

Well, I also agree that Girona should not underestimate Mallorca. Because we have seen a lot of weaker teams win against bigger teams just because the bigger team underestimated the smaller one. In their last meetup, Mallorca won 6 times and Girona managed to win 5 times. So I don't think they should underestimate their opponent. But at the same time, they should not get anything less than three points.

Actually, Girona will be motivated to win this match. Because they have to, so that they can stay ahead of Barcelona. But I have a feeling that Barcelona might actually catch up and overtake Girona.
So far the match is running, mallorca vs Girona is still running with a draw score, and the match is quite pressing Mallorca in terms of ball possession, but the shots are still controlled by Mallorca, it shows that mallorca can still penetrate the Girona defense even though only one shot towards the Barcelona goal.

Girona are still looking for gaps in the weaknesses built by Michel, maybe we will see Girona get a goal at the end of the first half, or maybe vice versa if there are mistakes made by the Girona team. I don't want this match to end with a draw and maybe even a defeat for Girona, and that will make it easier for Barcelona to compete again with Real Madrid at the top of the standings.
250  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: March 03, 2024, 03:43:01 PM
I agree with you girona really need to eliminate mallorca so as to reduced the point difference,I thinking is a huge opportunity for girona to win mallorca today,but the question is that can girona utilize this opportunity?well let's see how it goes.
Mallorca is a team that is not strong enough this season even though today's match will take place at their home ground. But from what we have seen so far, Girona is still much better than Mallorca so it would be quite reasonable to expect Girona to win today's match. Because I also don't think that Girona will have difficulty facing Mallorca and if Girona is able to win today's match, it will also be a very good advantage for Girona itself in terms of keeping the points gap with Barcelona.
It's clear from the games Girona have brought with their current form, and although Girona have regressed slightly and are no longer at the top of the table, when compared to Mallorca it's certainly a far cry overall, Mallorca are not a big money obstacle for Girona in my opinion, it will be an easy game for Girona, I don't mean to underestimate Mallorca but either way we need to think realistically with the circumstances of both teams, and yes the ball is round, I don't deny it, maybe luck can be had in the match against Girona, it can happen.

And yes Girona need the extra points to stay away from Barcelona who continue to catch up, a win is needed to stay in second place safely.
251  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which of these betting Statements Do you Agree or Disagree With? on: March 02, 2024, 10:26:06 AM
I want to believe that we all agree that our betting budget should be within 5% -10% of our monthly income as responsible gamblers. However, our perspective on sports betting differs. Look at the gambling sentences and indicate which of the statements you agree or disagree with. You could also write a brief explanation for your standpoint

1. Don't bet all your money on one bet.
2. Bet the same amount on every bet.
3. Don't bet more than once a day.
4. Don't bet every day.

I don't think it's that simple, the 3 points you mentioned can be tentative and or at will, without having to have a specific schedule to organize them.

I only agree with the first point, because that will be the basic rule of how we can gamble responsibly, and you will earn a good living in a month or until you get your income back, but that's my personal view, maybe other people's views are different, it's just that I think it's too much, so you have to determine a schedule and how many times to gamble.
252  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How your feels? on: March 02, 2024, 09:54:35 AM
I want to know how it feels among those of you who gamble using altcoins or bitcoins, basically the crypto you are using today has increased significantly, we know that in 2022-2023 coins that are small are not so valuable, and how does it feel today? Is there a little regret or do you not care because the money you lose in gambling is a necessity for you, so you don't care about the crypto you have lost in gambling for the past two years?

The experience of gambling with altcoins and Bitcoin is interestingly different because it has its own feeling of thrill from uncertainty about the price. On one side, the growth of the asset value gives such excitement to players and a chance for immense profit. On the other hand, the fall of the asset value can lead to serious financial loss for them as well.

Losses in the gambling industry are sometimes seen as part of the whole gaming experience by some people who view gambling as a form of entertainment and are willing to take risks. In their case, they may not be too affected by a loss because they are prepared for any consequences that might follow. However, this is different for others, especially when the sum lost is very significant; it can create strong feelings of regret or disappointment.

How a person reacts to their losses while gambling can largely depend on how they perceive the risks and what attitudes they have towards the possible outcomes. Some people may be less afraid of taking a risk and more capable of adapting to changes in prices, whereas others might be more fearful and vulnerable to the negative consequences of losses.
If you have to understand a little, price fluctuations are very slow in crypto, not changing quickly which may be what you describe, because if we look at the data at the end of 2022 bitcoin was once at the price level of $15k, and maybe there are people who use bitcoin to gamble today, as well as altcoins that may be at their lowest price to be used as a gambling tool, and today the crypto they used to gamble has experienced a significant increase in price, so they may feel sorry because if they accumulate what they have lost the price has increased rapidly, yes even though they gamble responsibly and are ready to lose it that day.
253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The Future of Gambling on: March 01, 2024, 06:23:11 PM
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I am excited to see the comments. Please comment on where you think the future of gambling will be. What kinds of benefits will the gambling experience of the future bring in all walks of gambling? Will it be a good thing or a bad thing? What do you think makes the gambling experience the best in your opinion? Pick and choose any / all questions to be answered- I can't wait to see what everyone says.
I learned a lot of things while knowing gambling that I will tell my family, how gambling can be bad, bad and good experiences are mixed so far and in the end I can sort out what I should take and what I should get, risk management, financial management and other things that can give you an understanding of life by seeing the other side of gambling, how to control emotions, how to fight to get rid of addiction, who would have thought I could understand many things in this world just from gambling experience, how to control emotions, how to fight to get rid of addiction, who would have thought I could understand many things in this world just from the experience of gambling, financially I am sure to lose money due to gambling but in terms of knowledge it makes me a person who has control over myself.
254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: your perception about gambling on: March 01, 2024, 05:58:15 PM
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Yes, there are some casinos that don't have any such limits or restrictions but I guess they must have age related restriction in order to stop underage people from using their platforms. It could cause huge problems if a young gets addicted to gambling.
yes of course if our perspective is looking at the moral side, then the rules must exist in every casino to filter underage casino users, but if there is no government regulation to limit casinos then casinos without restrictions are legal, and we cannot argue with that. but if the demand is moral then it needs to be limited even though there is no legal regulation from the government directly.

But if the demand is moral then it needs to be restricted even if there is no legal regulation from the government directly. Because we can see the moral law from the impact that it has, as you said that it will be bad for the younger generation if when their children have access to gambling, it will create a bad generation for a nation.
255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: your perception about gambling on: March 01, 2024, 03:19:08 PM
is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?

No gambling is not restricted to some individuals or classes of people, anyone is allowed to gamble. Of course there are some age related restrictions but other than that I don't think there's any kind of restriction. If a country's law doesn't allow gambling and the country takes strict action against casinos then in such places it might be not possible to gamble, but many people even from such countries use VPNs to gamble on online casino sites. No stratification at all when it comes to gambling, like I said above everyone is allowed to gamble.
This relates to norms and rules can also be seen from the culture or teachings that are applied to a person about whether gambling is appropriate or not, if by rule then there is indeed a limit in age, whether in writing or not, but if you look at it we can access gambling depending on whether the gambling also has restrictions on individuals or not, because if there are no restrictions on the casino then there are no restrictions, but if there are restrictions on the casino then there are restrictions, so in my opinion this is back to the casino to see gambling has restrictions or not, and depends on where you will see these two sides. Because we know that there is gambling that has restrictions and there is also gambling that has no limits that can be accessed by anyone.
256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How your feels? on: March 01, 2024, 03:04:47 PM
If you regret using your altcoins or Bitcoin to gamble because the price have appreciate a lot right now then you are not a responsible gambler.
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Where is the irresponsibility? after all, everything is based on accountability if the gambling is done according to the size that has been done according to their respective abilities.?

Yes, even though we have managed and managed it well, sometimes the small side of the heart feels that there is a little regret because if collected in 2 years maybe now the amount is quite a lot of crypto or BTC that we use to gamble, right?

I see many people who feel regret, although among them I also know that they gamble very well and do not sink their money in gambling, it's just that if accumulated for two years, the nominal is quite very large.
257  Economy / Gambling discussion / How your feels? on: February 29, 2024, 11:28:12 AM
I want to know how it feels among those of you who gamble using altcoins or bitcoins, basically the crypto you are using today has increased significantly, we know that in 2022-2023 coins that are small are not so valuable, and how does it feel today? Is there a little regret or do you not care because the money you lose in gambling is a necessity for you, so you don't care about the crypto you have lost in gambling for the past two years?
258  Economy / Speculation / Re: A new ATH before halving. Is it possible? on: February 29, 2024, 08:48:13 AM
In the analysis also indeed bitcoin today will continue to increase and we will most likely get that price, but for the new ATh in the halving is most likely still below $100k in my opinion, and bitcoin will experience a correction first after the halving, of course there are some miners and also investors who will take advantage, as well as me or retailers.
You must have an idea now because ATH has shown a very green line, just as you said that now we are like seeing young wives at the beginning of marriage. The latest price shows how strong bitcoin is and perhaps there will be another ATH that can surprise us in the same year. Now you have an idea, right, at what price to sell your bitcoins?
hemmmm...
At first a little confused to determine the selling price in this Q1 or moment in the bitcoin halving zone, because some of my price targets have only reached 1 at the $63,200 level, I divided the sales at 5 price levels that I targeted, with each 20% of my bitcoin ownership.
Until the last one at the bitcoin price level above $90k for the sales target. if this does not happen as planned and only a few are reached, bitcoin will definitely experience a correction first and it's time to buy back bitcoin at the target price level of $47k-$60k.

This is just the beginning for the Ath level that bitcoin wants to reach, because there is still plenty of time for bitcoin to continue to grow, given that the flow of bitcoin purchases continues to increase both in spot and in spot bitcoin ETFs.
259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you are not to gamble. on: February 28, 2024, 02:57:29 PM
Gambling can be fun and also become a serious problem if not done appropriately. Alot of gambler get themselves into problem because they gamble anyhow and anytime. There are some times you should take a break in gambling so that you won't become an addict or give yourself problem. Time you shouldn't gamble includes:

👉👉when you are in need of money urgently
Some people gamble the most when they are in need of urgent money. They use the little in their account to gamble believe they can double the money in no time through gambling to do what they want to do. This most times go wrong making them to lose the little they should have save for that purpose

👉👉To regain back your loses
Pursuing loses in gambling make you lose more. So it better to have a break when you have lose alot. That period may not be your own lucky time to win. Taking a break can help you to avoid being addicted and also save you from losing more.

👉👉Under pressure or frustration
Gambling under pressure or frustration may make you go beyond your plan. It can also make you to make wrong decision from your bet. So it's better to do away with gambling during this period.

CONCLUSION
Gambling should be fun, it's better to stay away when it has started to become a problem.
From the conclusion, it can be concluded that gambling only needs to be used as a place of entertainment, not a place to make money, because literally entertainment places are for fun, not for making money, except for those who sell games. If you want to make a profit, then you have to be a seller of services or whatever in that place.

Your three points are a cycle that will repeat itself and become a bad gambler so that it will spin in a vicious zone with unclear expectations of where reality is logically going.
260  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Saya ingin tahu cara trading harian di altcoin supaya terus mendapatkan untung on: February 28, 2024, 12:53:00 PM
Selamat malam semuanya?
Saya selalu trading harian di sebuah bursa dan selalu menghasilkan uang ya,, untuk kebutuhan sehari-hari dan Alhamdulillah saya selalu menghasilkan uang dari hasil trading saya di altcoin, namun akhir akhir ini saya selalu rugi dari trading harian saya dan memang harga altcoin itu sangat susah ditebak, saya ingin tahu tentang cara trading yang bagus, yang pasti setiap orang pasti punya cara masing masing dalam trading harian, saya ingin tahu cara trading supaya terus mendapatkan untung...
I have never found a way or strategy in trading that can provide consistent profits every day. Altcoins are much less fundamental and perhaps when you engage in daily trading it will be much more difficult to predict. In simple terms, maybe you should target realistic profits and immediately press stop loss when you have made a small profit. You also need to improve your management so that you can handle market conditions that change at any time and the difficulties some people usually have in dealing with the risk of loss.

Evaluate where the mistakes are that could cause you losses and carry out studies based on maturity, not assumptions and guesswork, because trading is not just talking about speculation because in practice you need certainty when you want to get out. Take advantage of the trade by pressing a stop loss and when you don't know how far the market will go, it is difficult to predict the final price.
Permisi gan untuk mengedit kembali bahasanya,.

Memang benar bahwa kita akan sangat sulit mendapatkan profit trading harian yang konsisten dari altcoin itu adalah hal yang tidak mungkin, di dalam komunitas Academi crytpo pun yang memiliki win rate yang cukup bagus untuk sementara ini, mereka tidak melakukan trading harian, melainkan melakukan trading dengan menggunakan berdasarkan arus uang dan narasi yang berjalan, dan dalam satu minggu mungkin hanya 1-4 kali saja melakukan pengunguman.

Apalagi kita yang melakukan trade plan yang kurang begitu paham dengan seluruh mekanisme pasar dan mencoba trading harian untuk mendapatkan profit, hal yang mungkin bisa memberikan keuntungan adalah ketika pump bitcoin maka rata-rata altcoin akan mengalami pump.

koreksi evaluasi dan dapatkan momennya. Grin
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