I find it hard to believe that people who were such 'paranoid conspiracy theorist' that they would use Bitcoin in the first place are so in love with Big Brother that they eat up every mainstream narative with basically zero meaningful evidence Him most of the time.  On top of that, anyone who questions the mainstream narative is automatically some sort of a traitor to their country or whatever.

To be fair, most of the participants on this form are not really early adopters and there are few old-timers around any more so maybe I should expect a different mindset.  Whatever the case it is good information to know that what qualifies as a Bitcoin enthusiast today is very likely to be totally subservient to the corp/gov mainstream and should not be relied upon to provide any meaningful resistance at all as we are rolled into the new technocratic economic model and societal frameworks.

Of course this forum does have a contingent of people who are here because they hate and feel threatened by Bitcoin and seek to damage it.  Others are monitoring it to understand and exploit the weakness of the system (and the community who uses it.)  I can only imagine how delighted they are to see so many highly conditioned boot-lickers who would seemingly fight to the death for the honor of the likes of Bill Gates and Merck.

Wrong again Bob.

If you can point that out in TS's material please do, but in fact you used a very simple logical fallicy to assert that a study 'proved' no mutagenesis.  That failure is as clear as a bell.


There is no 'pseudoscience' about people using natural selection to achieve a desired goal be it a bigger potato or a more useful pathogen.

Someone who simply cannot accept the idea that this could have been part of what happened to make covid-19 what it is is very ill prepared to employ any analysis on the subject at all.  That would be you.

Logical fallacy alert:

 - oligonucleotied primers is a method of inducing mutagensis

 - no sign of oligonucleotide primers

 - therefore, no mutagensis


If thing A is in common use and is a million times more probable than thing B, the burden is kind of on thing B to prove that that is what happened.

That is especially the case when thing B is actively and strenuously promoted by groups associated with thing A should thing A be what actually happened.

How could it be useful to confine a large percentage of people to their homes.  Especially middle-age and older persons who are responsible and unlikely to break curfew and go out partying?  The official reason is to slow the spread of SARS-cov-2 infection and 'flatten the curve' to use talking point jargon.  But could there be other reasons?

I just heard a story about postal workers being assembled to have a special briefing.  In this briefing the workers where specifically instructed to report on anyone who refused to accept their mail.  That is interesting.

Because people are conditioned not to think about it, most people don't consider how the loans to the U.S. by the privately held central bank work.  When they do, they usually assume that the 'collateral' for these loans (of 'money' created out of thin air) is 'tax claims on future generations.'

I personally have always kind of doubted that the 'collateral' on the issued debt is quite so nebulous.  I've for a while suspected that the collateral is claims on various value in the nation itself.  National forests, monuments, mineral reserves, and what not.  For the last half decade I have wondered if it is possible that it is also what most land owners think it 'privately held' land titles as well.

What if people are about to be served legal notices that, due to this covid-19 emergency which requires all of our collective actions and sacrifices to manage, the title of lands are going to need to be 'modernized'.

That is exactly the method which has been used for over 100 years.  That is one of the reasons that most biological warfare labs call themselves things like 'animal disease research centers', and why they maintain large groups of animals.

Covid-19 is often over-hyped in the lethality feature, but it actually does seem to have a more valid, interesting, and unusual collection of features which are eye-opening and help is spread world-wide.  r0, incubation time, durability to remain active on surfaces, etc. We can limit the possibilities for the existence of 'SARS-cov-2' to two choices for the purposes of rational analysis here:

 - by-chance hop from a bat pool to another species (pangolin, snake, whatever) and from thence to humans.

 - artificial selection and refining in a research facility.

It is a known fact that there are research facilities doing these kinds of projects and using bat derived coronavirus.  And it is simply beyond doubt creating millions and millions of opportunities for 'gain of function' mutations to pop up (probably under various deliberately mutagenic conditions) and deliberate selection will arrive at a solution more quickly than the alternate.  The alternate being a very finite number of opportunities for a species jump to happen and for just the right individual pangolin to be captured and harvested for sale to humans while a number of very 'useful' mutations are happening along the way.

Given the above observations, which are simply not very contentious, it is perfect rational to consider the more likely scenerio as, well, more likely.  I would say more likely by many orders of magnitude, but that's getting into being a judgement thing.

One thing it is NOT is 'crazy' to consider the possibility that SARS-cov-2 came from something other than bat soup.  If anything, someone who cannot bring themselves to consider the possibility of lab or facility creation has got a problem related to intellectual conditioning by various corp/gov apparatuses.

I was blown away that anyone could be negative about an investigative report which showed a current job posting for a bio-engineer with experience genetically modifying bat coronavirus and put a link to the posting on the original web site.

Obviously the idea of what reporting is all about has shifted 180 degrees since I was in high school.

I don't have internet at home so I have to go out to coffee shops and internet cafes in order to share my sagacity with this forum...and to watch a little porn.

Unfortunately all this hard work in the interest of humanity is making me kind of ill.  Dry cough, slight fever, etc, but some of my favorite coffee shops have cushy chairs upon which I can wipe the snot (and jizm) off my hand.

Man, you totally nailed it!

I think I read somewhere that it was discovered that the short-lived campaign of using 'trusted' truth entities (Snopes, the ADL, etc) for the flagging made it MORE likely that most people would believe a flagged story.  That would explain the short-lived nature of the experiment.

These people are well funded though.  It's not like they would curl up and go away.  The latest trial balloon is that the internet NEEDS to have ALL content checked by AI algorithms and/or certified humans before it can go from the keyboard to anyone else's screen.  This to eliminate the scourge of antisemitism.  The real-time nature of the internet was definitely a bug, and one which a lot of people are hard at work on trying to fix.

Just in case you don't realize it, 'flat earth' is a psy-op which gives losers something to use against ANY idea which doesn't align with their corp/gov programing.  Nobody actually believes the flat-earth nonsense.

The syllogistic logic here is:

 1.  Any idea which I'm triggered by [usually anything not approved by Big Bro] is like 'flat earth'.

 2.  'flat earth' is idiotic.

 3.  therefore, the idea which I'm triggered by is idiotic.

The whole logical chain it itself so stupid (absurdly erroneous premise) that I don't think that formal logicians even have a term for that particular fallacy.

Note that  'super busy' guy here is perfectly happy to accuse people of ducking a challenge even when the response has already been around for a day and the ball is in his court.

 Re: Luciifarian creeper demands undefined number of dead babies (nullius)


Edit:  fixed quotes.

No need to worry about that:

  https://www.robots.com/blogs/robots-helping-the-blind-to-navigate-the-world

Much better to be blind than to have a coronavirus in your room.  Just ask your friendly virtual-neighborhood 'evidence based' and 'data driven' scientpriest.

The ball is in your court over on that thread Mr. We-Need-Dead-Babies (which is a highly technocratic I must say.)

I consider the risk to my minimally vaccinated kid to be extremely low from being harmed by any of the diseases that the vaccines are advertised to protect against for the simple reason that they were already very low by the time they got around to even having a vaccine for them.

I did request the BCG because in my analysis:

 - The environmental risks outweighed the vaccine risks,

 - I consider the theory of operation of this vaccine to be sound and safe,

 - Recent studies (Chinese scientists) shed a lot of light on the mechanics of early post-birth brain development and the effects that various classes of vaccine have on them and BCG was shown to actually be, if anything, helpful.  Unlike Hep-B which was the opposite.

I only have one main concern.  The next move from the pro-vaxxer side will probably be to deliberately release agents which are designed to attack unvaccinated kids.  They will justify it as a good and necessary thing that they must do for the good of the collective because it will increase the number of people having their kids shot up.  I've read enough to see what kinds of creepers are on the so-called 'skeptics' side (orac, skeptical raptor, amazing Randi, etc) and I've zero doubt that they are easily capable of such a strategy.  The tide is turning against the pro-vaxxers and they are likely getting quite desperate.

The argument that Gates apologists use is that by ensuring that babies will survive through the miracle of vaccines, women won't want to have to many kids.  They'll point to the more developed countries as evidence.

To be fair, this is not a totally bogus idea.  I don't buy it, though, in part because in my research I find the impacts of vaccines to be anything but a positive factor in raising a kid to productive adulthood (where they will, with luck, assist the parent in their old age.)  Being highly devastating to health, vaccines are great for prescription drug and adult diaper sales though.

Another reason I don't buy it is that Gates cannot hide his duping delight and his creepy smirk whenever he talks about how great vaccines are for the recipient and for the world.  Apparently Daddy Gates was head of planned parenthood so it seems that he came from a family of eugenicists (planned parenthood evolving straight out of the eugenics movement which was popular in pre-wwII America but lost it's luster when Nazi Germany implemented what they called 'the American Plan' to strengthen the strain.)

Who is 'the' (singular) 'forum healthcare worker'?  That e_o_l_e_o guy?  Claims to be a doctor but there is no way to know.  Sure he has more science skilz than most of the bozos on this board, but that's not saying much.  I don't think I've seen anything he said which wasn't standard faire that one can find anywhere on the net.

Also his posting history indicates that he's got plenty of free time between seeing all those covid-19 patients to dick around on bitcointalk 'helping' folks find 'coin mixers' and set up 'secure wallets'.

So many people are so easy to scam with the simplest psychological devices.  Oh well.

As for the vids, I've seen some clips with all beds full in a three bed room and some Italian doctor or nurse saying she is tired, but frankly speaking, if one took away the breathless commentary and only had the vids to look at one would be hard pressed to notice anything indicating overload conditions.  One fairly effective form of psy-ops is to show video of fairly ordinary conditions and having people _talk_ about some hurricane, shooting, etc.  When a person is talking about a disaster, that is what sheeple watching the footage see.  A technique I use is to take a pass at this stuff tuning the dialog out completely and just studying what I see in the video/imagery only.

I don't doubt that there could be people who have 'information' on how this thing will present, but I doubt you are one of them.  If such people want the infection to come in waves so that vaccine uptake will be higher when the needles come out, that's probably what will happen.

I have not seen any reason to think that this one should present any different to the common cold if it is a naturally occurring coronavirus and different strains are not being deliberately planted into different population groups in order to be used as "politically useful tools."

I just found out that the UK seems to have a particular plan, and it is what I would consider to be a very viable one.  Not to say that it is 'the right plan', but it will be very interesting to analyze how it works.

As of yesterday 3 people had died from SARS-cov-II infection in Italy.  I say this because that is the number of fatalities among people with no other known issue.  This is important to note in looking at the UK's plan.

The plan is basically to allow development of 'natural herd immunity' by allowing the virus to sweep through the population.  Noting that the mortality among healthy people is VERY low and most people, if they even know they had the damn thing, get what is a minor cold which lasts a day or two, this seems like a rational idea.

What they are also doing is to try to protect people who are thought to be vulnerable while natural herd immunity develops.  That is the reason for singling out people over 70.

I gleaned this information from the latest Highwire show and have not cross-referenced it or verified things myself yet.

Maybe Italy was instructed to make some demographic shifts happen in exchange for being bailed out by the international banking system.  Think of it as a form of 'austerity'.  Population engineering would be pretty standard 'technocracy' which we will probably all see soon enough.

Antisemitic 'canard' and 'trope'.

The null hypothesis is as follows:

 - Big 'non-profits'(*), NGO's, etc are not sponsored by billionaires.

 - billionaires don't get tax write-offs by 'donating' to 'charity'.

 - billionaires (and royalty) are no more likely to be eugenics enthusiast than anyone else.

 - billionaire (and royalty) are no more likely to worry about overpopulation than anyone else.

 - people who 'give' millions of dollars to an organization never ask that the organization takes a particular direction.

 - ...but if they do, it is not correlated with the individual interests of the donor.

You see, the problem I have being a 'normie' is that I have to accept all kinds of idiocy in order to sustain the 'approved' thought patterns expected of someone of that class.  I also need to pretend like very obvious historical and current observations which are right in front of my face simply don't exist.  I just cannot and will not do it.  Sorry.

Now what I could do would be to keep my mouth shut about things and either hide in my hole watching, or participate in the evil for fun and profit.  That isn't my thing.  Plus if I make believe that I would someday have to explain myself and my life to St. Peter, I would have a hard time.  I use that as a guide for my behavior even though I'm a fairly staunch athiest and don't expect to be standing before the guy at any point.

(*) 'non-profit' status doesn't limit the principles in the organization from taking home multi-hundred-thousand-per-year salaries and often they do.  And by working effectively on the projects which are important to the sponsors it is likely that a principle can supplement their salary handsomely through other channels.