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2421  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 21, 2015, 08:26:44 PM
As gogo pointed out there are some complaints going on with Anonibet as far as delay in payments. It seems to stem from bonuses that were given out and manual reviews. I'll keep you updated and take them off the rating guide until further review.
2422  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 21, 2015, 07:40:11 PM
3 more special free rolls running every day for a while at Nitrogen. Looks like I may have posted bad info above since hands may change.

8pm EST (100 hands- .1 btc)
9pm (300 hands- .5 btc)
11pm (600 hands- 1 btc)
2423  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 20, 2015, 06:50:00 PM
Poker information may be posted from the sportsbooks with poker rooms. Lots of free rolls today at Nitrogen.

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Play 20 hands of poker and you can play in the .1 btc prize pool freeroll starting at 8p ET/ 5p PT/ 01:00 GMT
Play 100 hands of poker and you can play for the .5 btc prize pool freeroll which also starts at 8p ET/ 5p PT/ 01:00 GMT
Play 300 or more hands of poker, you can play in the big 1 btc prize pool freeroll starting at 11p ET/ 8p PT/ 04:00 GMT

For the month
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Nitrogen Poker is now offering more than 48 freerolls each and every day this month!
2424  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 20, 2015, 12:32:41 AM
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I'm not going to put Coinbet on our recommended list at this time
2425  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 20, 2015, 12:24:38 AM
Is this list from the OP still good? Have any of these books "fallen out of favor" or left people without payment?

No good books have gone down but some of the books that were warned about took our money. Bitcoinlivebets was one of them and they were rated high at the other sites. Also warnings were given on StakeBTC and Coinbet.

Here were some warnings:

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2) bitcoinlivebets.com didn't pay you so you rated them D-

Which one is it ?


I have nothing against Ryan or his ratings so I try to stay away of any criticism since it's nice to have multiple rating guides.

bitcoinlivebets is a very shaky book. They have problems on almost a daily basis and automation is never fully working. Each person has different reasons for playing at a book. I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case.

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StakeBTC opened to forum members on January 18, 2014, although they have been open to a private group for a longer time. StakeBTC has a maximum bet of 30 BTC and many seem to play with StakeBTC for this reason. Others advertise higher limits but rarely is it available. There are a lot of good things about StakeBTC that I don't even want to mention at this time because of one point. When a sports book offers a 100% bonus with a 2x rollover, that's a huge red flag. The only thing keeping StakeBTC from being a "F", because of that bonus, is that they haven't had one complaint as far as payouts. StakeBTC opens at "D"
2426  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 19, 2015, 06:29:38 PM
Thanks tony and damakhum....................Please keep the input coming from all.
2427  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 19, 2015, 07:50:39 AM
Most of the fiat books use the lessor of risk/payout for rollover requirements.
2428  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 19, 2015, 07:48:45 AM
Anonibet is catching a lot of heat and may be wrong, in this current case, to be seen, but one of the reasons they were rated so high is that in my dealings with Michael, he has been 100% honest.

One person was overpaid 15 BTC by Anonibet.  When the player posted about it, Michael took full responsibility for the mistake. Michael said that the player wasn't a scammer. After that the player did pay Anonibet back. the player made a bet for 15 BTC and said if it won that he would pay back Anonibet. The bet won.

Anonibet didn't even bring the case to the forum. The player stated that he was overpaid.

Peeps. IMSO they are rated way too high. Most all the other popular bitcoin books, same as fiat currency ones, have comprehensive betting rules by sport. Anonibet has only a very small section in their terms and conditions that cover just the very basics. They offer a bonus that for all intents and purposes is like a 10% cash bonus on all deposits with only a 1X rollover. This bonus has no rules associated with it. The 1X rollover can be done at -20000 odds even. There is nothing else saying what is and what is not allowed. Yet, their only rules is they can adjust balances after the fact retroactively under their own discretion and with no explanation to remove past winnings. Some like their in-play betting platform but other sites use the exact same provider at lower margins (everything is a match just Anonibet has higher juice). Their prematch odds are also not very good. Those can be offset by bonus, but the bonus has major issues in the lack of terms followed by a catchall term.

Michael might be a great guy. Their company could want to operate fair. They however do not at least in print / policy conform to the standards of fair gambling that the oldest fiat currency books adhere to, and other bitcoin books use. It might be due to lack of experience, but that would be a concern too. I know they are the oldest for bitcoin, but some of these other books have management with decades in the sports side of the industry. I think even B- for them is too high, but could maybe swallow it. Having them rated higher than Nitrogen, Cloudbet and Casinobitco.in I don't think is wise.

BetCoin should also be no more than C or C+ and on watch imo. By watch I mean it could go either way with further adjustments from there.
Thanks for the input. Why do you think that Betcoin should be downgraded? I really like them.
2429  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 18, 2015, 11:34:54 PM
We have some big announcements! We have expanded our sport section tremendously. We are still a betting exchange - so we don't offer specific odds, instead they are found by the market. However, we partner with some market makers that guarantee to offer very good odds (better than pinnacle) and we have cut the fees for sport bets from 2% to 0.00%.
We do not offer any bonuses - instead we entirely focused on cutting costs and with this setup we are confident that we offer the best odds available.
It is possible to place bets without an account - we only take a 0.5mBTC fee for the transaction. With accounts even this fee is waived.

Check it out here: https://www.fairlay.com/event/category/soccer/

We are happy to get feedback!

@Peeps Place - looks like fairlay is currently under NR AND under D.
Corrected. Thanks for checking in.
2430  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 18, 2015, 07:05:43 PM
In other news:

SBR has upgraded SBO.ag to C- claiming all outstanding issues have been resolved. Mine hasn't and the person (Matt) who's been handling my case and telling me SBO won't talk to him about my case is now not responding to my emails. I've tried to contact SBO myself again, but to no avail. After a few exchanged messages they closed my support ticked and wouldn't respond any further. I'm gonna try sending an email to a different address at SBR and if I don't get a satisfactory reply in a couple of days I'll be posting on their forum.

Coindrafts have stopped paying me in November, I think. Last I heard from them a couple of weeks ago they were still saying they're recovering from the wallet disaster and outright told me they have no idea when they are going to pay me. Now their site is dead. They owe me 8.2btc.
Thank You - Coindrafts lowered from "D+" to "F"



Webetcoins has asked that you send me transaction IDs. Please post or PM them and we'll see what happens. They were once a very good out.



New broker oddschain.com



Upgrades and downgrades approx. 3/1

If you are playing or have played at the following please post experiences. This is helpful. Thanks to the guys that have taken time to post feedback on the other books.

Books in the "D" and "NR" may want to add something at this time.

"D" rated books
Betmoose D+ (2014)
Fairlay D+ (2013)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
OLEBitcoin D+ (2013) *
BTCBook D (2014)


NR
1player
7Bit
altbetfair
Asianconnect88 - No longer accepts bitcoins.
Betabit
Betbanks
Betbtc
Betmoose
betxcp
BetXCP
Bitcoinvegas
Bitesports
Coin178
Cointeller
Darkbet
Evolvebets
finalstake
Flutterclub
Oddschange (2015)
Planetofbets
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
Premiumtradings
tdsports
xbet.io


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2431  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 17, 2015, 09:02:53 PM
Webetcoins told me that payments are being processed. Those with significant balances are having their BTC address validated to prevent sending to an unsafe place.

Check in if you've had some recent payouts. Thanks









Nitrogen has some interesting things for the poker players this week.  They have an extra 10 mbtc hourly free rolls (started yesterday), an extra Crazy Wednesday freeroll (12pm EST), poker trivia throughout the day, all-in/shove competitions, screen cap sharing contests on Twiter/Facebook for free bets, and anyone who achieves Gold status or better during the month of February will receive an additional free bet on our sportsbook.



Anonibet is catching a lot of heat and may be wrong, in this current case, to be seen, but one of the reasons they were rated so high is that in my dealings with Michael, he has been 100% honest.

One person was overpaid 15 BTC by Anonibet.  When the player posted about it, Michael took full responsibility for the mistake. Michael said that the player wasn't a scammer. After that the player did pay Anonibet back. the player made a bet for 15 BTC and said if it won that he would pay back Anonibet. The bet won.

Anonibet didn't even bring the case to the forum. The player stated that he was overpaid.

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2432  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 17, 2015, 03:27:55 AM
Peep what is the update on webetcoins. He paid out a customer just now and is responding to emails. I cant get a response or a small payout from him.
That's great news. I thought we weren't going to hear from him again. I'll try and get in touch with him.
2433  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 16, 2015, 07:28:12 PM
zika- Can you send me a 30 day history of your wagers? Thanks
i can't, i cant log in and support saying account with my email doesnt exist. all i have are deposit and withdrawal emails.

Do I have your permission to look into your account if Anonibet allows me access?
of course
Thanks, I'll look at the history and see what the forum thinks. I don't ever want to base ratings on my sole opinion.

I don't know Michael's schedule and I'm out of town for a few days if I don't reply soon.
2434  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 16, 2015, 06:57:24 PM
zika- Can you send me a 30 day history of your wagers? Thanks
i can't, i cant log in and support saying account with my email doesnt exist. all i have are deposit and withdrawal emails.

Do I have your permission to look into your account if Anonibet allows me access?
2435  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 16, 2015, 05:57:21 PM
zika- Can you send me a 30 day history of your wagers? Thanks
2436  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 16, 2015, 05:55:41 PM
Hey Peeps, can you please comment on the A rated Anonibet, apparently a Gold Member of the Bitcoin Foundation. How and why should deposits take forever to be credited to our accounts?  After 3 attempts, their support finally replied my email and stated that they are processing all WITHDRAWALS manually, even though I had clearly stated that I was following up on my deposit. That is crap customer support and they only say they cannot give timeframe and the deposit will be processed shortly. What kind of wallet upgrade are they talking about? Are they manufacturing wallets? An A rating my ass

I haven't been around for a few days. I'll look into everything.
2437  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 12, 2015, 09:16:41 PM
I'll ask and see what they say.
2438  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 11, 2015, 05:22:05 AM
2439  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 11, 2015, 05:21:17 AM
BetVIP still offline.
Will do upgrades and downgrades in a couple of weeks. Hopefully Betvip can fix all problems soon.
2440  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 06, 2015, 08:34:33 PM

DDoS. I wonder what they are asking for ransom.
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