#1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus

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Peep what is the update on webetcoins. He paid out a customer just now and is responding to emails. I cant get a response or a small payout from him.

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Peep what is the update on webetcoins. He paid out a customer just now and is responding to emails. I cant get a response or a small payout from him.

That's great news. I thought we weren't going to hear from him again. I'll try and get in touch with him.

[Cloudbet]

Can we get some more books to offer Nascar?

Peeps - Can you lobby your books about this?


Ridiculous that almost no one offers it.

Hi Gogo ppp,

We offer NASCAR at Cloudbet. Right now it's only a rudimentary offering with low limits, but we will be improving the NASCAR markets over the next few weeks.

Cheers,
Cloudbet

Thanks for the response Cloudbet.


"Right now it's only a rudimentary offering with low limits, but we will be improving the NASCAR markets over the next few weeks."

The more you can put up and the earlier you can put it up, the better. And at competitive odds.

Ideally - Race Winner and Matchups for all 3 series, any other props such as Finish Position over/under, qualifying matchups, etc.

Daytona is this coming weekend.

Hi Gogo ppp,

Thanks for the feedback. We have plans for all of these markets, as well as props, in the next few weeks. Our Daytona prices are already up. Limits will increase as the race approaches - you can get most on in the hours before the race begins.

Cheers,
Cloudbet

[Rating Place]

Webetcoins told me that payments are being processed. Those with significant balances are having their BTC address validated to prevent sending to an unsafe place.

Check in if you've had some recent payouts. Thanks








Nitrogen has some interesting things for the poker players this week.  They have an extra 10 mbtc hourly free rolls (started yesterday), an extra Crazy Wednesday freeroll (12pm EST), poker trivia throughout the day, all-in/shove competitions, screen cap sharing contests on Twiter/Facebook for free bets, and anyone who achieves Gold status or better during the month of February will receive an additional free bet on our sportsbook.


Anonibet is catching a lot of heat and may be wrong, in this current case, to be seen, but one of the reasons they were rated so high is that in my dealings with Michael, he has been 100% honest.

One person was overpaid 15 BTC by Anonibet.  When the player posted about it, Michael took full responsibility for the mistake. Michael said that the player wasn't a scammer. After that the player did pay Anonibet back. the player made a bet for 15 BTC and said if it won that he would pay back Anonibet. The bet won.

Anonibet didn't even bring the case to the forum. The player stated that he was overpaid.

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[Cloudbet]

Hi all,

For the high stakes bettors out there - we're taking max bets of 200 BTC on tonight's Champions League games, and 60 BTC on the Cricket World Cup.

Best of luck!

Cheers,
Cloudbet

[dplay]

In other news:

SBR has upgraded SBO.ag to C- claiming all outstanding issues have been resolved. Mine hasn't and the person (Matt) who's been handling my case and telling me SBO won't talk to him about my case is now not responding to my emails. I've tried to contact SBO myself again, but to no avail. After a few exchanged messages they closed my support ticked and wouldn't respond any further. I'm gonna try sending an email to a different address at SBR and if I don't get a satisfactory reply in a couple of days I'll be posting on their forum.

Coindrafts have stopped paying me in November, I think. Last I heard from them a couple of weeks ago they were still saying they're recovering from the wallet disaster and outright told me they have no idea when they are going to pay me. Now their site is dead. They owe me 8.2btc.

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In other news:

SBR has upgraded SBO.ag to C- claiming all outstanding issues have been resolved. Mine hasn't and the person (Matt) who's been handling my case and telling me SBO won't talk to him about my case is now not responding to my emails. I've tried to contact SBO myself again, but to no avail. After a few exchanged messages they closed my support ticked and wouldn't respond any further. I'm gonna try sending an email to a different address at SBR and if I don't get a satisfactory reply in a couple of days I'll be posting on their forum.

Coindrafts have stopped paying me in November, I think. Last I heard from them a couple of weeks ago they were still saying they're recovering from the wallet disaster and outright told me they have no idea when they are going to pay me. Now their site is dead. They owe me 8.2btc.

Thank You - Coindrafts lowered from "D+" to "F"


Webetcoins has asked that you send me transaction IDs. Please post or PM them and we'll see what happens. They were once a very good out.


New broker oddschain.com


Upgrades and downgrades approx. 3/1

If you are playing or have played at the following please post experiences. This is helpful. Thanks to the guys that have taken time to post feedback on the other books.

Books in the "D" and "NR" may want to add something at this time.

"D" rated books
Betmoose D+ (2014)
Fairlay D+ (2013)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
OLEBitcoin D+ (2013) *
BTCBook D (2014)


NR
1player
7Bit
altbetfair
Asianconnect88 - No longer accepts bitcoins.
Betabit
Betbanks
Betbtc
Betmoose
betxcp
BetXCP
Bitcoinvegas
Bitesports
Coin178
Cointeller
Darkbet
Evolvebets
finalstake
Flutterclub
Oddschange (2015)
Planetofbets
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
Premiumtradings
tdsports
xbet.io


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[fairlay]

We have some big announcements! We have expanded our sport section tremendously. We are still a betting exchange - so we don't offer specific odds, instead they are found by the market. However, we partner with some market makers that guarantee to offer very good odds (better than pinnacle) and we have cut the fees for sport bets from 2% to 0.00%.
We do not offer any bonuses - instead we entirely focused on cutting costs and with this setup we are confident that we offer the best odds available.
It is possible to place bets without an account - we only take a 0.5mBTC fee for the transaction. With accounts even this fee is waived.

Check it out here: https://www.fairlay.com/event/category/soccer/

We are happy to get feedback!

@Peeps Place - looks like fairlay is currently under NR AND under D.

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We have some big announcements! We have expanded our sport section tremendously. We are still a betting exchange - so we don't offer specific odds, instead they are found by the market. However, we partner with some market makers that guarantee to offer very good odds (better than pinnacle) and we have cut the fees for sport bets from 2% to 0.00%.
We do not offer any bonuses - instead we entirely focused on cutting costs and with this setup we are confident that we offer the best odds available.
It is possible to place bets without an account - we only take a 0.5mBTC fee for the transaction. With accounts even this fee is waived.

Check it out here: https://www.fairlay.com/event/category/soccer/

We are happy to get feedback!

@Peeps Place - looks like fairlay is currently under NR AND under D.

Corrected. Thanks for checking in.

[damakhun]

Anonibet is catching a lot of heat and may be wrong, in this current case, to be seen, but one of the reasons they were rated so high is that in my dealings with Michael, he has been 100% honest.

One person was overpaid 15 BTC by Anonibet.  When the player posted about it, Michael took full responsibility for the mistake. Michael said that the player wasn't a scammer. After that the player did pay Anonibet back. the player made a bet for 15 BTC and said if it won that he would pay back Anonibet. The bet won.

Anonibet didn't even bring the case to the forum. The player stated that he was overpaid.

Peeps. IMSO they are rated way too high. Most all the other popular bitcoin books, same as fiat currency ones, have comprehensive betting rules by sport. Anonibet has only a very small section in their terms and conditions that cover just the very basics. They offer a bonus that for all intents and purposes is like a 10% cash bonus on all deposits with only a 1X rollover. This bonus has no rules associated with it. The 1X rollover can be done at -20000 odds even. There is nothing else saying what is and what is not allowed. Yet, their only rules is they can adjust balances after the fact retroactively under their own discretion and with no explanation to remove past winnings. Some like their in-play betting platform but other sites use the exact same provider at lower margins (everything is a match just Anonibet has higher juice). Their prematch odds are also not very good. Those can be offset by bonus, but the bonus has major issues in the lack of terms followed by a catchall term.

Michael might be a great guy. Their company could want to operate fair. They however do not at least in print / policy conform to the standards of fair gambling that the oldest fiat currency books adhere to, and other bitcoin books use. It might be due to lack of experience, but that would be a concern too. I know they are the oldest for bitcoin, but some of these other books have management with decades in the sports side of the industry. I think even B- for them is too high, but could maybe swallow it. Having them rated higher than Nitrogen, Cloudbet and Casinobitco.in I don't think is wise.

BetCoin should also be no more than C or C+ and on watch imo. By watch I mean it could go either way with further adjustments from there.

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Anonibet is catching a lot of heat and may be wrong, in this current case, to be seen, but one of the reasons they were rated so high is that in my dealings with Michael, he has been 100% honest.

One person was overpaid 15 BTC by Anonibet.  When the player posted about it, Michael took full responsibility for the mistake. Michael said that the player wasn't a scammer. After that the player did pay Anonibet back. the player made a bet for 15 BTC and said if it won that he would pay back Anonibet. The bet won.

Anonibet didn't even bring the case to the forum. The player stated that he was overpaid.

Peeps. IMSO they are rated way too high. Most all the other popular bitcoin books, same as fiat currency ones, have comprehensive betting rules by sport. Anonibet has only a very small section in their terms and conditions that cover just the very basics. They offer a bonus that for all intents and purposes is like a 10% cash bonus on all deposits with only a 1X rollover. This bonus has no rules associated with it. The 1X rollover can be done at -20000 odds even. There is nothing else saying what is and what is not allowed. Yet, their only rules is they can adjust balances after the fact retroactively under their own discretion and with no explanation to remove past winnings. Some like their in-play betting platform but other sites use the exact same provider at lower margins (everything is a match just Anonibet has higher juice). Their prematch odds are also not very good. Those can be offset by bonus, but the bonus has major issues in the lack of terms followed by a catchall term.

Michael might be a great guy. Their company could want to operate fair. They however do not at least in print / policy conform to the standards of fair gambling that the oldest fiat currency books adhere to, and other bitcoin books use. It might be due to lack of experience, but that would be a concern too. I know they are the oldest for bitcoin, but some of these other books have management with decades in the sports side of the industry. I think even B- for them is too high, but could maybe swallow it. Having them rated higher than Nitrogen, Cloudbet and Casinobitco.in I don't think is wise.

BetCoin should also be no more than C or C+ and on watch imo. By watch I mean it could go either way with further adjustments from there.

Thanks for the input. Why do you think that Betcoin should be downgraded? I really like them.

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Most of the fiat books use the lessor of risk/payout for rollover requirements.

[damakhun]

Thanks for the input. Why do you think that Betcoin should be downgraded? I really like them.

Even the reddit guide added a warning next to their references, it shouldn't be too hard to find out what the issues are. But they probably shouldn't have been rated highly in the first place. How much do you know about them? Do you know who operates them? Past issues: lack of experience with SSL and didn't understand it quickly even after explained. Their practices for banking have been less than ideal too, and casual users became more likely to get their exchange hosted e-wallets suspended over it. More currently developing issues: horrible sometimes non responsive for days support. payouts sometimes taking days to be issued. etc. They say are busy working on new things, maybe true. But they started off a bit low on small list of sites I'd be comfortable sending players to already, now are on decline. Maybe they recover fine. but imo ratings are not effective when wait and see is used. Now in fairness that's just a response to the negatives. There are positives here too

[tonyq]

I have been  using Betbtc since they first appeared and all I can say is that the support, payments and  betting platform are absolutely excellent.
Bitcoin sports punters need an exchange in this format badly  and I suggest you give it a try.  The more that do so, the better for everybody,  since everything (odds and volumes) are determined by user vs user.
High liquidity is the only missing key at the moment. It has been growing noticeably over the last couple of weeks but more punters have to get involved.
Let's use it and not lose it guys.

[damakhun]

Forgot to mention two-factor as a downside for Betcoin too.

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Thanks tony and damakhum....................Please keep the input coming from all.

[Harry Hood]

Is this list from the OP still good? Have any of these books "fallen out of favor" or left people without payment?

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Is this list from the OP still good? Have any of these books "fallen out of favor" or left people without payment?

No good books have gone down but some of the books that were warned about took our money. Bitcoinlivebets was one of them and they were rated high at the other sites. Also warnings were given on StakeBTC and Coinbet.

Here were some warnings:

2) bitcoinlivebets.com didn't pay you so you rated them D-

Which one is it ?


I have nothing against Ryan or his ratings so I try to stay away of any criticism since it's nice to have multiple rating guides.

bitcoinlivebets is a very shaky book. They have problems on almost a daily basis and automation is never fully working. Each person has different reasons for playing at a book. I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case.

StakeBTC opened to forum members on January 18, 2014, although they have been open to a private group for a longer time. StakeBTC has a maximum bet of 30 BTC and many seem to play with StakeBTC for this reason. Others advertise higher limits but rarely is it available. There are a lot of good things about StakeBTC that I don't even want to mention at this time because of one point. When a sports book offers a 100% bonus with a 2x rollover, that's a huge red flag. The only thing keeping StakeBTC from being a "F", because of that bonus, is that they haven't had one complaint as far as payouts. StakeBTC opens at "D"

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I'm not going to put Coinbet on our recommended list at this time

[fairlay]

We have updated the first post of our thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673475.0
It provides now a nice overview of the current status of fairlay.com