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2421  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: January 12, 2017, 06:43:01 PM
What is your exit point? Where will you sell your coins? How much % of your stack will you sell?
I usually sell when prices up in 3-10%, its depends trend on market if trend tends to decrease better i sell because i prefer play safe than get a lot profit with high risk
i think i just missed the right time when the price of bicoin raised to 1150 USD. but now the price is trading even below 800 USD. i can only hope for the price to raise again a give me a chance to sell my bitcoins in a good price.
Not just you, everyone who missed to book profits in bitcoin prices were trading around $1150 in recent times will be planning to sell when they will be again getting better price levels above $1000.

I mean to say there will be bigger selling force when bitcoin again trades near $1000. But, as per my speculation if bitcoin comes near $1000 then it will jump to $1500 and $2000 levels easily just to make you people to regret.
2422  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your new year start in gambling! on: January 12, 2017, 05:03:30 PM
I think that this is a bad mindset to enter the new year with. Im my opinion, gambling shouldn't be a big part of someone's life so I wouldn't be in a rush to gamble for a new start in the beginning of a new year. I think that it's only safe to gamble healthy amounts so that it wouldn't make a difference either way.
i do not think that it is a bad mindset to enter the new year with gambling. to me as i play gambling in limit and i always play gambling in a limit and ever try to cross that limit and that is the reason that  i never face such a big amount of bitcoin.

Yeah I don't think so as well. People have their own way of looking at gambling and some people, even though they look forward to gambling, know how to gamble responsibly. It doesn't mean all the time that when someone looks forward to gambling at the start of the year, they would be gambling mindlessly to the point of exhausting all their livelihood resources. Some just have fun and enjoy the feeling that gambling brings but do it in a way that won't affect their lives negatively.

yep its depend on what people to see about gambling but we don't have to blame if someone happy with gambling or not, many of us playing gambling for just fun and enjoy the entertainment as this is what i am do in gambling, for getting much of money, i will consider that is a gift to me and i am really happy with the gift.
But most of the people do not play gambling for fun and enjoyment, to me 99% people play gambling for making money, because gambling is a game of making money and not for fun and enjoyment. I think most of the people have continued their strategy of making money even in 2017. That will be really pathetic even I maybe one of them.
2423  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: January 12, 2017, 03:52:29 PM
It's really hard to control yourself when you lose much money on gambling. When you lose, you will try to get back your money by doubling your money on gambling and when you lose you will rage more and it become more harder to control yourself.
Even for the gamblers who are making any possible profits from gambling also it would be highly difficult to control themselves while gambling. Gambling will make you emotionally foolish to make you forget your responsibilities. Hence controlling ourselves will not be possible once we get into gambling.
2424  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do you buy Bitcoins? on: January 12, 2017, 02:16:37 PM
To buy online using bitcoins with less hassle at the same time to also send money with cost me a low fees and more faster than remittance center because we all know that remittance centers can cost you more fees and you have to wait maybe an hour for your transactions.
You got a little wrong bro because the question is how you buy bitcoins ?
And not how you spend your bitcoins. Anyways I personally buy bitcoins from localbitcoins and some traders there now have a good faith in me and they even accept paypal from me and paypal I can upload from bank in no time.
2425  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: January 12, 2017, 01:31:41 PM
Well at the first place its safer and you can also make more money, gambling is really based on luck and you can than also lose everything at once.
in fact both trading and gambling are risky, but in trading we have a little advantage using your experience, because trading also depend on your previous experience and skill. while gambling depend on your  luck and there is very little role of your skill and experience in gambling.
Not really because in gambling also you can analyze the players and make your bet accordingly now you might say that you still need luck ? Well then you also need in trading because suppose you did the best to invest in the best coin in market but when everything was going good the dev turned a villain lol then ?
2426  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: January 12, 2017, 09:56:48 AM
No one can tell this in my eyes that is impossible without any doubts, its something that is not possible to know if you are asking me...

You can never think that luck will come to you at this moment - simple put because its very slippery in nature. Luck has the habit of slipping past your hands every now and then.

Rather than depending upon luck, hard work and skilled labour is what is more important to earn money. I never consider luck to be my friend since I am a very unlucky person. Even then I earn from my hard work and never go out to gamble even a single penny.
Yes, no doubt about that that hard work, skill and experience are important for success. Still, gambling is the key to success, if you are luck then your skill your experience and your hard world can help you . but if you are not lucky then these thing cannot help you in bringing success. Yes, in gambling luck is the prime deciding factor.
2427  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your new year start in gambling! on: January 11, 2017, 09:32:18 PM
I think that this is a bad mindset to enter the new year with. Im my opinion, gambling shouldn't be a big part of someone's life so I wouldn't be in a rush to gamble for a new start in the beginning of a new year. I think that it's only safe to gamble healthy amounts so that it wouldn't make a difference either way.
i do not think that it is a bad mindset to enter the new year with gambling. to me as i play gambling in limit and i always play gambling in a limit and ever try to cross that limit and that is the reason that  i never face such a big amount of bitcoin.
yes that is not a bad thing to continue gambling even in this year for those who are not putting all of their money in gambling but only gamble for entertainment. As entertainment is advised for everyone all the time which make our minds fresh.
But if you can see from what he posted (I mean the OP ) you will see he is very excited with some wins, which is good but getting excited with wins means that now the whole year he would be chasing wins and wins only, gambling for fun is totally different and in that scenario people hardly post their bets and show off, though I am happy for his wins.
2428  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: January 11, 2017, 07:51:03 PM
Luck does happens but no one know when it will come to you, but maybe you can improve your chance to luck by setting some goals and have faith in it. 

Improving luck is something that we can't expect either, even how good we are good in setting up goals and have faith in it. Luck is something that is hard to know when it will come, that's why it cannot be told by someone when it will come. Maybe by just putting some hard efforts into something will be worth it by not with gambling.
Nothing is there like luck its all about timing, you win because of chances and loose because of the same.
You can understand this by no matter how lucky you were on a given day make 100 bets and you will see that you would win 55 by max and loose 45 or vice versa.

So, actually its all about chances and brain. If luck was working then there must be at least 1 player who would always win.
2429  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: January 05, 2017, 10:33:33 PM
In a way yes, if we are going to compare gambling and trading, we can considered Trading as gambling because the risk that we are taking in Trading is almost the same that we are taking in gambling, but not as big like the risk in gambling. In Trading the only problem that we are thinking of is being scam by someone while in gambling the only problem that we are thinking of is losing and the strategy that we are going to use, for us to win.
I think the only reason for which we can consider bitcoin as gambling is the risk factor, as both are risky and you can lose money even in trading, but in other point of view gambling is not like trading as trading need your skill your  previous experience and skill while gambling is not bothering these.
2430  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: January 05, 2017, 10:26:15 PM
Gambling cannot be profitable in the long term no matter how safe you are going to play you are eventually going to lose it to the house edge and that is the fact .Win some and get out take a rest and come back after a while and win some and that is the only tactics i know will win us some coins.
Actually, there are some special methods which can turn gambling into a profitable activity if you know how to use it and change the data to adapt different situation. Moreover, these methods and bots are super cool which can make 1 Bitcoin per day for you. However, experts won't share it and we need to have much Bitcoin in order to purchase them
lol , never purchase any methods/strategy , it is dumb idea.
nothing can make you win in the long run , gambling will never earn you profit in the end, as there is a house edge.
you just full of delusion thinking you can win a lot of bitcoin if you purchase an expensive bullshit strategy?

Yes very true, there will never be a gambler who kept winning from time to time, day to day, in every game. You could win the game but not for every game. There will be times when you lose. It has become a fact from time to time, from any gamblers who start playing from the beginning, there was his stage they lost and it is a very normal thing. There is no way you can get a long-term advantage. Only luck can give it to you.
Still I heard there are many people who are making good money from gambling and on regular basis.

I think these people are really committed to gambling having good experience and skill in gambling, still the number of such people is really few as most of the people do not succeeded in gambling in long run.
2431  Economy / Speculation / Re: HUGE Drop coming! on: January 05, 2017, 10:21:00 PM
It looks like a big drop, bitcoin loosed 200 dollars in less than 24 hours. But in my opinion isn't a bitcoin crash we are at the same price level than one week ago. We need to wait and see what happens on next days.
But I'm not losing my confident that bitcoin will bounce back from here to continue its rally.

I believe bitcoin was moving for making $1300 and $1400 price levels but unfortunately it got pulled down. I read Chinese yuan just got 1% value appreciation but I guess that will not sustain and Chinese investors will come back to pumb bitcoins again.
2432  Economy / Speculation / Re: Welcome back 2014! on: January 05, 2017, 10:15:32 PM
I think the current conditions are very different from those experienced then, because in 2013 we did not have any reference about what could be the limit on the price of bitcoin, but now we do have a reference in that matter, so a market correction  was highly expected around $1,100. I would rather expect a gradual recovery in price next days to $1,100 again, with a extended stay at that level.
Yes, this is the second time and that this alone more than enough to differentiate the current situations are not the repetition of 2014. Moreover the strong bitcoin adoption and interests of from China investors will not let bitcoin to fall down anything happened in 2014.
2433  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Investment sites that won't pay out on: January 05, 2017, 09:56:20 PM
Unfortunately scammers will be coming with new sites and maintaining such a list for warning will be having very least significant imho. Because these sites will be dying after the scammers collect their targeted money.

Still I'm not discouraging you, having a warning for beginners always must be appreciated.
2434  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Where to invest on: January 05, 2017, 09:50:35 PM
I like to suggest to invest only into bitcoin and no where else. Yes believe only with bitcoin and do not risk with your hard earned money by investing into any programs / altcoins.

In the opinion, for all of us just bitcoin is more than enough for a better future.

More importantly do not try to multiply bitcoin by your bitcoins. Earn bitcoins to multiply it.
2435  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trying to calculate rsi on: January 05, 2017, 09:40:39 PM

Average Gain and Average loss are not true Averages.
When Ave Gain > Ave Loss, RS will be greater than 1.
When Ave Gain < Ave Loss, RS will be less than 1
So indicator always oscillates between 0 and 100.
If ave loss becomes zero, RSI becomes 100 by definition.
If ave gain equals zero, RSI is set to 0(by definition)
Any link for this definitions would be more helpful to OP. Honestly I do not have any idea what you people are discussing here, still I understand it is about some trading tool and OP is trying to formulate it by his own coding.

I am too looking for URLs for learning it, please add if possible.
2436  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: January 05, 2017, 09:37:07 PM
i think it good time to hold your bitcoin and it will be beneficial for you in the future if you save or hold your bitcoin because bitcoin is rising its price more nowadays and people adopting bitcoin in huge amount and then hold it for high price and i think it is good investment and you can get a good profit from bitcoin in the future.
yes no doubt about this that the price of bitcoin is continuously increasing, although the market is aslo taking  some correction  and that is the  reason that  some time the price of bitcoin fell down but it is a temporary downfall hope that very soon the price of bitcoin will cross the all time high price of bitcoin.
Bitcoin must be the best investment but it is highly dependent on how long you will be not touching your investment to cash out/ to make use of it. Only for the long-term holders bitcoin had given the maximum benefits so making bitcoin as best investment is only possible if you are holding it for long time.
2437  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Basics on: January 05, 2017, 09:28:51 PM
This is what bitcoin created for on which theres no involvement or 3rd party when doing transaction and directly p2p.Yes,this is the basics of bitcoin but if you dig even more you will see the more advantages and benefits on it not only on online transactions but also on earning opportunity.
Bitcoin is decentralized, purely digital virtual coin used directly between two people with no third party involved in it, unlike modern fiat money which often is controlled by banks and governments but the problem is bitcoin is not refundable so you can’t get your money back unless the person receiving the funds sends them back.

Trading bitcoins comes from the concept/opportunity of it value appreciations. All the currencies in this world are being traded but only bitcoin has investment characteristics.
2438  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I have 5K€ to invest ! on: January 05, 2017, 07:52:26 PM


It's not better not to invest, it is better to invest in good and legit things and not in the ponzi/scam things.
But because of the high risk that is on investment we hesitate to invest in something unless we belive and hope for a profit.
Yes, a lot of scam there who are will give promises but instead of investing to them just buy bitcoin and let it grow.
Just set goals if you are lacking financially, what I mean is, you can set aside some of your money every month to buy bitcoin 'till you can make even 1 bitcoin.

I understand your point and it's good to be optimistic on investing something and to be patient too.
Personally I have set my goal to hold the bitcoins as long as possible until one day if I need money urgently then I would sell.
When you are capable of investing 5k EURO then you also must be ready to wait infinitely because you must be having all your basic needs for leading your life without disturbing your investments into bitcoins.

Leaving off your bitcoin investment must be a very clever idea in my opinion too but only time will answer for that. Still I am too very much of confident that bitcoin will be reaching millions dollar value when I will be retiring.
2439  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading? on: January 05, 2017, 07:17:07 PM
a little bit disappointed when altcoins dumps, usually it happens when btc pumps. I like gambling with altcoins sometimes you lose sometimes you win. I love trading cause it made me good profit last year. Hopefully this year would be greater for all....
Yeah for some reason that's true. Whenever the price of bitcoins goes up the price of altcoins and rather shit coins goes down. You would never see the price of good coins like doge coins or ethereum going down though even if the bitcoins price alters by huge margins.
2440  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is CHINA CONTROLLING Bitcoin? on: January 05, 2017, 06:28:41 PM
In my view, China controls bitcoin price.
Anyone with large capital will be able to control the price of bitcoin or any stock or even gold. Maybe miners and investors from China are in more numbers and bitcoin is in fact not under the control of them nor any group of people, it is free of authorities and will remain same forever.
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