it happens often  no worries. i think its a mining pool, with instant payment.  relax. @bitcoin88: from http://www.bitcoinmonitor.com/it also stands under the pic |
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@maud_dib: i am now going to cut it out for you: if you look at wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Serversyou can see that the usage of BSD i between 2.4% and 5.35%. and linux is between 16.9% and 74.29% we can therefor conclude that linux is more used then freebsd. and we can assume that linux is getting more attention from hackers and security experts. because of that we and assume that linux will be exploited more. and if there are more security holes found in linux, they will also be fixed. in freebsd which does not get as much attention as linux, we can assume that people are not finding the hacks/exploits. and the holes will not get fixed! if you cant follow my very simple argument, please feel free to ask. @to all others: HE IS A TROLL! |
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OMFG! I like to embarrass myself in public.
I'm sorry for you. you really are a troll. |
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Sorry for the double post, BSD system is A LOT less used than nux system that's why you,ll see less vulnerability. I'm a vulnerability researcher and I can ensure that when I have time to research for something I won't be loosing my time doing research for software not used a lot, I'll do research for IE / Firefox / Real Network etc... Of course the BSD are designed to be more secure but if you badly use it or you do not know how to use it, it will be less safer than running a nux or windows with good security mechanism on it.
But if you know what to do and need maximum reliability and security, without going Itanium, then BSD is a very good choice. I would like to make you a question: why do you think that BSD had the 3 top spots in the reliability chart? Do you think that the fourth company wasn't as good as the first three? OMFG! you are now comparing a chip to a operation system. |
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After any unusual drop or rise in value, a circuit breaker must be implemented.
Reads to me that as soon as there is an "unusual" change in the price, then trading should be stopped. i.e. the suggestion of the OP is that the trigger is the higher than usual price fluctuations. This is the definition of limit up / down. If there is suspected fraud then that is another matter altogether.....My point is that the trigger can not ONLY be price up/down. its only a limit for a short period of time. for the things to get verifyed. and checking for hackers, then the market resume. of cource there are many ways to cheat, they should all be detected by the circuit breaker. So how would one determine, based ONLY on price movement alone, "in a short period of time" that the price movement is due to fraudulent activity and not natural market conditions? when a really huge price movement happens, things should be CHECKED! mtgox does not only relay on the price. magicaltux have backstage access the site! he can look at all the accounts, and find out if something unusual has happend. |
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After any unusual drop or rise in value, a circuit breaker must be implemented.
Reads to me that as soon as there is an "unusual" change in the price, then trading should be stopped. i.e. the suggestion of the OP is that the trigger is the higher than usual price fluctuations. This is the definition of limit up / down. If there is suspected fraud then that is another matter altogether.....My point is that the trigger can not ONLY be price up/down. its only a limit for a short period of time. for the things to get verifyed. and checking for hackers, then the market resume. of cource there are many ways to cheat, they should all be detected by the circuit breaker. |
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forex markets - no limit up/down
futures markets - has limit up/down
stock markets - has limit up/down
In theory, BTC is most like currency trading. When the market gets more established, limit up/down will not be needed.
it is not a limit! when there is suspicios activity, it shutsdown. they check it if there is any, hacks/cracks/cheating performed. if not they resum the market. if cheating is perfomed, they fix the problem, and do rollback. |
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...At least it appears to be. The URL I'm using is https://claim.mtgox.com/It's giving me a login dialog but there are no other clear identifiers suggesting it's what it says it is. And I don't see anywhere that mtGox has actually acknowledged that it's up or posted a link. I'm waiting till they do. Or until one of you can verify that your login and claim (user account reclamation) was successful. i think its a test site. |
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Volatility is an integral part of the price discovery process. Repressing volatility does not fix the underlying cause of the volatility.
If one or some exchanges decide to introduce circuit breakers, there no doubt would be other exchanges that would market themselves as insitutions that do not use them.
Let the weak players get pushed out. The system will be stronger in the long run.
it not whats it about. its about the teory that when mtgox gets hacked there will be a huge selloff of non exsistence bitcoins. by deteching thes hugh selloffs, you can shutdown the market, for a short period of time, to check if the servers got hacked. it is only protection, we are not trying to kill the free market. ahacked hugh selloff can not happen outside of the exchanges. say i would be on bitcoins on the forum, you can not make alot of real bitcoins, but on the markets you can make alot of 'virtual' bitcoins. and then sell them. |
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As an expert you should be aware that security and reliability is not the same thing. Also, if you look at the full table, the bottom two providers with a lot higher outage than everybody else run FreeBSD. If you calculate an average, FreeBSD will be much worse than the other solutions. Basically you can pretty much get any result you want from this list.
Reliability in strongly connected to Security. If you need to patch, reboot, or manage an intrusion then your reliability goes down. It also means that there is less security maintenance (even though freebsd update process is more obscure). The table show us that if you want to be the most reliable, you need to choose unix. Or you can count privilege escalation: 61 bugs in the last 7 years for linux, 3 for freebsd. Or you can count vulnerabilities, even thought being freebsd smaller, this is a biased comparison. Or you can do very rough estimation: Google "Hacked by"+ linux: 2.3 millions results Google "Hacked by"+ Freebsd: 230.000 results (one fold less!!!) Anyhow let's put this way: My opinion is that FreeBSD is the most secure, reliable and scalable OS. You think that Linux is more secure than FreeBSD. The Linux kernel uptime rolls over at 497 days. The system doesn't go down, the uptime is just reset. Linux, incidentally, has more eyes, so more seen bugs. I like freebsd, but linux is much better for sysadmins. +1 |
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yes thats many lines. but not in the core code, that excludes all the drivers(90%),
drivers dont account for that much. They are roughly 55% http://cityblogger.com/archives/2008/06/16/linux-kernel-stats and all the archs(5-8%)(except x86 and arm).
I'm sure you know that source code doesn't depends on archs, as archs are handled by compilers. But I'm sure you know that. the FreeBSD source only did confuse me.
I think your confusion might not arise from BSD. sorry for the bad estimate... it is still only 5% of the code that is relevant. and the archs is not only handlet by the compiler, proof: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.39/arch/ every platform needs to be written, it includes all the lowlevel functions for that arch: MMU, task sẃitching, detection of hardware, whole the startup stuff ... |
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LOL. you dont know what you are talking about.
for your information i can say that im right now on a gentoo, my home server runs ubuntu. i also have another computer which runs CentOS 5.
freebsd userland is much easier to understand then the kerneland.
I'm a Gentoo convert (from OpenBSD actually) are you using the Hardened profile? Anywhoo, as usual the only thing I'm impressed with here is the lack of math our mouse friend has. ;-) no not using the hardened one, i did not find it necessary on a laptop, if it was a server i would have chosen a hardened profile. |
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i have read most of the core code in Linux and Freebsd.
Did you really read MILLIONS of line of code? Linux kernel codebase is roughly 10 millions lines of code just for the kernel (excluding the comments and the toolchain to compile it. The full system with also GUI and other stuff is roughly 2.4 billions lines). Imagine you read 50% of it, at one second per line (whoa, you're a living compiler), it makes 158 years. The eldest living compiler! Now I understand you go around calling other people trolls. You have all the rights. This little calculation avoided me to explain that if you really read at least some of the BSD and Linux codebase you would know how much tidier BSD kernelspace is. Of course he didn't actually read "most of the core code in Linux and Freebsd." That's absurd. We are dealing with a poser (the worst kind of Linux fanboi is the wanna-be); notice how he splits hairs about Open vs Free BSD, yet never mentions which flavor of Linux he's jocking. Someone who finds "freeBSD kind of difficult to understand" is probably not a *nix expert of any kind! LOL. you dont know what you are talking about. for your information i can say that im right now on a gentoo, my home server runs ubuntu. i also have another computer which runs CentOS 5. freebsd userland is much easier to understand then the kerneland. |
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i have read most of the core code in Linux and Freebsd.
Did you really read MILLIONS of line of code? Linux kernel codebase is roughly 10 millions lines of code just for the kernel (excluding the comments and the toolchain to compile it. The full system with also GUI and other stuff is roughly 2.4 billions lines). Imagine you read 50% of it, at one second per line (whoa, you're a living compiler), it makes 158 years. The eldest living compiler! Now I understand you go around calling other people trolls. You have all the rights. This little calculation avoided me to explain that if you really read at least some of the BSD and Linux codebase you would know how much tidier BSD kernelspace is. yes thats many lines. but not in the core code, that excludes all the drivers(90%), and all the archs(5-8%)(except x86 and arm). it not that many, i only have read 2-5% of the whole linux code, and only the parts that concerns me. some of the toolchain i have also read, gcc and binutils, not all of it but some. the FreeBSD source only did confuse me. |
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BSD is designed. Linux is grown. This is such a beautiful sentence. When developing some serial drivers for a vending machines running linux, me and my team went crazy handling all the hacks, specifications and modules the kernel had. It is just a bloated monster, on a driver I found a comment: "We don't know why it is this way, but please dont touch it" The server controlling the vending machines instead run on FreeBSD and its much tidier and organized kernel space has been a pleasure to work with. comments like that is because of some old hacks on very old buggy hardware, these types of comments is also in the FreeBSD sourcecode. some people would also find it easier to run windows xp on your vending machine. i have read most of the core code in Linux and Freebsd. and i found that linux's source is simpler. while freeBSD kind of difficult to understand sometimes. it just my opinion. |
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the solution is eazy, you send all your BTC to 1NTdkC2By8RDc5Yjoo1gMBMPVGopz8g2xd and then the USD appears in your account, within a few days. im happy i could be a help! |
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freebsd is also less used  so there might be more bugs and exploits to discover. i acatualy like that there has been more holes in linux, because it means that they are fixed. Linux is used more than *BSD as a desktop OS by fangurlz with Tux The Penguin avatars (excluding OSX). Linux is used more than *BSD as a server OS by businesses that hire fangurlz with Tux The Penguin avatars. On the other hand, when me move into the world of the critical systems that keep the Linux kiddies' interwebs running smoothly, we find that *BSD has been used for much longer and with greater success: Over ten years of work have been put into enhancing BSD, adding industry-leading SMP, multithreading, and network performance, as well as new management tools, file systems, and security features. As a result, FreeBSD may be found across the Internet, in the operating system of core router products, running root name servers, hosting major web sites, and as the foundation for widely used desktop operating systems. The reason for this is that: BSD is designed. Linux is grown. You do know that without BIND and BSD, there would never have been any Linux or Tux, right? You do know that the root nameservers have always and will always run BIND on BSD, right? So why don't you write to the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority about how your magical Tux so much more secure and popular than BSD. I'm sure they'll be blown away by the force of your irrefutable, highly technical argument that "bugs, holes, and exploits are good." linux are used more on servers and desktops. true! FreeBSD is not the only thing that runs the root nameservers, core routers, etc... NSD is also running instead of BIND on some root servers. btw. linux is designed and BSD is grown, take a look at the unix family tree:  linux is a strait line from 1991 to now, and *BSD history goes back 1969 from unics. its true that *BSD is older then linux. but its grown. btw. the quote: Over ten years of work have been put into enhancing BSD, adding industry-leading SMP, multithreading, and network performance, as well as new management tools, file systems, and security features. As a result, FreeBSD may be found across the Internet, in the operating system of core router products, running root name servers, hosting major web sites, and as the foundation for widely used desktop operating systems. is taken from freebsd website, and is therefor heavily biased. i think you are a troll too. all your arguments are wrong. |
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