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1661  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? on: December 27, 2011, 09:58:23 PM
NO.
example:
hypothesis: all swans are white.

evidence: 1000 white swans.
conclusion: hypothesis is LIKELY to be true.

evidence: 1 black swan
conclusion: hypothesis is with 100% certainty false. (not 99.999999999999999999999% certainty but 100% certainty).

Please read Popper.

I disagree. You are assuming you can have perfect info about the black swan existing. Perhaps there is something wrong with your measuring device (eyes + brain) or it was an illusion. It is very, very unlikely that people would mass hallucinate a black swan... but look at the success of religion.
you are getting philosophical:


and we are getting off topic.
1662  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Isn't wallet a bad name for your bitcoin keys? on: December 27, 2011, 06:23:45 PM
  • Your bit coins are not stored in your wallet.

yes they are. Tongue the recviving transaction are, and they are having a merkletree into the blockchain.
1663  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? on: December 27, 2011, 04:28:44 PM
It's not a fear - it's a reality.  If people get less benefit from working, they will be less likely to work.  Less work means a less productive country and more freeloaders.
Scientifically proven to be wrong. The reason is that people get bored by stuff and hate to be told to do something, while they love to achieve something. You can see this when people play video games and invest a lot of time and money into this. You can see this in open source projects, etc. Besides that work (or achieving something) is a good way to impress. That's also why people who don't work, even if they have enough money are more likely to become depressed and commit suicide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

A few comments:

1) Science can never prove anything. Only provide evidence for or against a theory.


So falsifying a theory is nothing more than gathering evidence against it? To my understanding, science proved Newton's theory wrong (even though it may still be useful). And proving something wrong is also a prove.

Well, you can say it is very, very implausible given the new evidence. Since you never have perfect information, proving is like dividing by zero. In laymans terms you can say newtonian mechanics was proved inaccurate though.
NO.
example:
hypothesis: all swans are white.

evidence: 1000 white swans.
conclusion: hypothesis is LIKELY to be true.

evidence: 1 black swan
conclusion: hypothesis is with 100% certainty false. (not 99.999999999999999999999% certainty but 100% certainty).

Please read Popper.
1664  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? on: December 27, 2011, 12:51:30 PM
It's not a fear - it's a reality.  If people get less benefit from working, they will be less likely to work.  Less work means a less productive country and more freeloaders.
Scientifically proven to be wrong. The reason is that people get bored by stuff and hate to be told to do something, while they love to achieve something. You can see this when people play video games and invest a lot of time and money into this. You can see this in open source projects, etc. Besides that work (or achieving something) is a good way to impress. That's also why people who don't work, even if they have enough money are more likely to become depressed and commit suicide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

A few comments:

1) Science can never prove anything. Only provide evidence for or against a theory.


So falsifying a theory is nothing more than gathering evidence against it? To my understanding, science proved Newton's theory wrong (even though it may still be useful). And proving something wrong is also a prove.

Now that some people do work without immediate material benefits does not prove anything about the general validity. Noone keeps doing dirty, dangerous and nasty work that is even considered dishonorable if they are not compensated for it. If cleaning streets 48 hours/week is not paying considerably better than not doing anything, nobody will go clean the streets.

what is the payment, can you then ask? money? fun?
some people find it fun to clean streets, or just doing something.
doing dangerous work, can also be a motivator.
1665  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Earn an UNLIMITED number of free bitcoins. on: December 26, 2011, 10:22:36 AM
Thus this mean that it is designed to be limited or someone is limiting bitcoins so as to make its value higher than the actual dollar or money??? Do you admit that someone is controlling its flow or hoarding btc so as to make it rare?
The code and protocol, as designed, put a hard limit of around 21M bitcoins total.

What happens then to lost btc?

This guy has an effin' good point; what happens if rich BTC users die and their Bitcoins are lost forever? I never thought about that, but surely somebody else did?
remaining bitcoin raise in price. what happens if i put a ton of gold on the bottom of ocean -> less gold in the world -> higher price.
1666  Other / Off-topic / Re: Apology to OldEngineer on: December 25, 2011, 09:45:31 PM
I think everyone is aware of that. Unfortunately, that is not the case across the board. Maybe you destroyed math, but biology kicks your ass. Maybe it's the other way around. Maybe English is your crux. No one is a master of all trades.

On a level field, what I said before stands. Listening, understanding, and getting a C is superior to regurgitating for an A, IMHO.
i did not say that i was perfect... i suck in all human languages Danish, French, English.
a C instead of an A, IMHO, does also indicate lazyness, and lack of interest.
1667  Other / Off-topic / Re: Apology to OldEngineer on: December 25, 2011, 06:20:10 PM
I think this tells us a lot about how you think:

The smartest student, I think, is the one who finds the most efficient means of passing any examination or test they come across.

Yes, even by cheating
The smartest student is the one who learns the most.

School is about the acquisition of knowledge, not passing exams or having a high GPA.

This times a million.

Grades show nothing but how well you comply (which in itself is a valuable measure for gaining employment). An A+ while working your ass off in my mind is no different than a C without trying.


i get 12(the highest) in math, without even trying to do be best. the lessons bores me, and all the stuff we learn i learn in about 10 min, while the other students are struggling... im not working my ass off to get a A+.

Ok...you are good at math. Cool story. Pretty much everyone has something they are good at. That would be the exception, not the rule.
it was to tell that you can get A+, without even trying.
1668  Other / Off-topic / Re: Apology to OldEngineer on: December 25, 2011, 10:50:51 AM
Dear Mr. Joint,

You're making yourself look like an idiot.

Sincerely,
Everyone but Kokjo

is that better?

much! thank you. but i still don't think that he should speak for the whole community, and should instead speak as an individual:
Dear Mr. Joint,

You're making yourself look like an idiot.

Sincerely,
Me
1669  Other / Off-topic / Re: Apology to OldEngineer on: December 25, 2011, 10:48:27 AM
Merry Christmas, everyone!  Smiley



That quote about smart students that cheat was applied within a particular context.

Namely, studies show that students and children that lie pathologically or cheat in school tend to score higher in terms of 'g' than their peers.  In other words, a problem is defined by the child (i.e. "if I do 'x' then 'y' may result, where 'y' is undesirable and the problem), so naturally the child does whatever it takes to avoid the consequences and thus avoid or solve the problem.

If a child does poorly on a test (x) then he might get a bad grade (y).  So, he cheats to avoid 'y' and the problem.

This is based upon the idea that intelligence simply means "problem solving ability" where the problem is defined by the subject.  So, the child solves the problem he has defined (i.e. he does not receive a bad grade).  Thus, he is intelligent.
But cheating is wrong.
no its not. its a part of the game Tongue
1670  Other / Off-topic / Re: Apology to OldEngineer on: December 24, 2011, 11:36:27 PM
I think this tells us a lot about how you think:

The smartest student, I think, is the one who finds the most efficient means of passing any examination or test they come across.

Yes, even by cheating
The smartest student is the one who learns the most.

School is about the acquisition of knowledge, not passing exams or having a high GPA.

This times a million.

Grades show nothing but how well you comply (which in itself is a valuable measure for gaining employment). An A+ while working your ass off in my mind is no different than a C without trying.
i get 12(the highest) in math, without even trying to do be best. the lessons bores me, and all the stuff we learn i learn in about 10 min, while the other students are struggling... im not working my ass off to get a A+.
1671  Other / Off-topic / Re: Apology to OldEngineer on: December 24, 2011, 07:40:19 PM
It is Christmas here so Merry Christmas all!
Merry Christmas Cheesy
1672  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why do people sell at 15 when the price could rebound to 30? on: December 24, 2011, 06:18:19 PM
OMG where can i sell at 15? mtgox around 4.
plz tell me!

I'll buy at 15.
All I require from you sir is your bank account details and sort code.....


deal Cheesy
1673  Other / Off-topic / Re: Apology to OldEngineer on: December 24, 2011, 05:13:22 PM
little, but it was the "everyone" part i did not like. please do not include me.

Because when someone says "everyone" they truly mean every last person on earth... right?
sure they do! ALWAYS!

joking aside... i don't think individuals should say talk for the community, without at least a great majority agrees.
it was just to say that i disagree with his statement, and i do not wish to get included in his "everyone".
1674  Other / Off-topic / Re: Apology to OldEngineer on: December 24, 2011, 04:26:49 PM
Dear Mr. Joint,

You're (making yourself look like) an idiot.

Sincerely,
Everyone

is that better?
little, but it was the "everyone" part i did not like. please do not include me.
1675  Other / Off-topic / Re: Can bitcoin cure cancer? on: December 24, 2011, 04:05:26 PM
Well you see all we have to do is make a blockchain that only validates good cells.  Then implant the miners in our brains.  Bitcells!

Genius, I think we could totally make this work!
no it would not, it can not work decentralized.
1676  Other / Off-topic / Re: Merry Christmas on: December 24, 2011, 01:13:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s74qrOyJJv4

Merry Christmas!
1677  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why do people sell at 15 when the price could rebound to 30? on: December 24, 2011, 11:47:38 AM
OMG where can i sell at 15? mtgox around 4.
plz tell me!
1678  Other / Off-topic / Re: Apology to OldEngineer on: December 24, 2011, 10:56:15 AM
Dear Mr. Joint,

You're an idiot.

Sincerely,
Everyone
Fuck you, i do not agree! please edit your post! IDIOT!
1679  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Alpha testing] Open Transactions server on: December 24, 2011, 10:52:31 AM

Happy Christmas!

 Wink
and a marry new year.
1680  Other / Off-topic / Re: BITCOIN IS BROKEN! on: December 23, 2011, 01:38:03 PM
This raises one of my favourite points about bitcoin: it's secure even against physical coercion.

If you commit two private keys to memory, you can reveal the one that holds no value.  There is no way for an attacker to know that they really have every key you know.
true. But he could keep on going, until he gets the big prize, or you die...
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