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1921  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis on: October 17, 2011, 10:17:40 AM
If the price get stuck "crashed" it means BTC economy crashed too.
no. the bitcoin economy can not crash. it will still have some value, a crash means no value(or negative, fun fun). it can not happen to bitcoin, as long as there is least 2 persons in the world that is using it.
1922  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis on: October 17, 2011, 09:59:17 AM
If this trend won't hold, then there are dark clouds ahead. Not only for prices but also for the bitcoin economy.
While the protocol will likely still remain secure and good, bitcoin growth and adoption will likely be harmed massively
no no you are seeing it wrong: low prices -> more buys.

is'nt there an inverted chart, like the USD price in BTC, is will explain it good i think.
i know that it is just another interpertation of data, but its important
1923  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis on: October 17, 2011, 09:53:05 AM
S3052, do you see the long term trend broken now?

Yes. Longterm trend is broken intraday.
it needs a rapid reversal above 3.7$ and better 4$ to hold in the next 24 - 48h
is this good or bad?

I think he means that we need a confirmation of the current prices. This could be just a spike. If the price returns to higher levels during the next couple of days the "long term buy" still holds.
its i just a spike, it just people that are panicking. when the real players wake(NY time: 5.52), i think we will se more buys or more sells. i don't know, but im still buying.
1924  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think gox will keep it 100 BC withdraw limit as the value of bitcoins plu on: October 17, 2011, 09:48:28 AM
go aks magicaltux, he can raise the limits of your account.
the rules are in place, to prevent laundry.
you can also fill out the verification form: https://mtgox.com/forms/verification it will raise your limits.
1925  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis on: October 17, 2011, 09:45:22 AM
S3052, do you see the long term trend broken now?

Yes. Longterm trend is broken intraday.
it needs a rapid reversal above 3.7$ and better 4$ to hold in the next 24 - 48h
is this good or bad?
1926  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: At what pricepoint is bitcoin dead? on: October 17, 2011, 09:37:19 AM
Only a technological weakness can really kill Bitcoin.

That's not true at all.  If enough people distrust bitcoin as a medium of exchange and/or a store of value the project will, for all practical purposes, die out.  I believe that's exactly what's going on right now.
no no. it just noobs that are panicking.
1927  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis on: October 17, 2011, 09:15:27 AM
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Almost ideal Elliott Wave. Rally "now or never...!"
http://www.bitcoinbullbear.com/

Now that we hit 2.9 can we please drop the "rally to $30" talk? At least for the next couple of months... I am interested to know where the bottom is and I hope that the price will finally stabilize (maybe around $2?).
no, we can't. its now people will buy because of the low price, and thereby forcing the price to go up.
1928  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Design Flaws of Bitcoin That Could Be Corrected in Another Digital Currency on: October 17, 2011, 08:50:16 AM
But what parts of the Bitcoin protocol would you change if you were starting from scratch?
the scripting language its just to complicated, and bloated.
1929  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fix the blockchain! on: October 16, 2011, 05:05:42 PM
4. It's a Berkeley DB... ugh.
what is wrong with that? seriously! you do have a really low understanding of DB's right?
1930  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Kiva Mutual Fund - GLBSE Ticker: KIVA on: October 15, 2011, 06:19:16 PM
you keep saying "im fine", with no relation to the post before you, why? need to tell it to yourself again and again?
There is nothing to relate to. Most things that are said are false.
im fine!
1931  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Kiva Mutual Fund - GLBSE Ticker: KIVA on: October 15, 2011, 06:17:13 PM
you keep saying "im fine", with no relation to the post before you, why? need to tell it to yourself again and again?
1932  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Kiva Mutual Fund - GLBSE Ticker: KIVA on: October 15, 2011, 06:15:45 PM
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I haven't lost the trust of the people on this forum. There's just a loud dissident minority. I am a trustworthy and reliable individual with uncompromising morals. I am fine. However, you are polluting this thread.

that's why I say your talent is to be a religionist, a missonary, not a man carrying out real project. You can just believe the things you want to believe, and just ignore the fact that everyone can see. And you can leverage this talent to become a missonary, give speech with passion, and maybe you can start your own New Religion, and the follower of you will only accept bitcoin.

have a try, and you will be huge success.
+1
1933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Kiva Mutual Fund - GLBSE Ticker: KIVA on: October 15, 2011, 06:12:46 PM
I haven't lost the trust of the people on this forum. There's just a loud dissident minority. I am a trustworthy and reliable individual with uncompromising morals. I am fine. However, you are polluting this thread.
i don't trust you. shall we have a vote?
many people don't trust you.
maybe you should give up here, and go to some people, that don't know you...
1934  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Kiva Mutual Fund - GLBSE Ticker: KIVA on: October 15, 2011, 06:08:24 PM
Atlas,

your talent lays in influence other people with your passion. You should not start any project from now on as you carried out so not much of them. why not just become a bitcoin missonary, travel around the U.S or even the whole world, give speech to every community, campus, group of people, company and so on, convincing them with the great idea of bitcoin.

Then you can raise money from this forum and your audience.

You're a better religionist than what you are now.


I am fine. However, you are polluting this thread with irrelevant posts. I am going to ask you to either participate with the topic at hand or leave.
its relevant! stupid fuck!
1935  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Kiva Mutual Fund - GLBSE Ticker: KIVA on: October 15, 2011, 06:00:15 PM
provide proof please!
1936  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Kiva Mutual Fund - GLBSE Ticker: KIVA on: October 15, 2011, 05:52:17 PM
don't trust atlas with money.

This guy has raised money for several project on this forum before, none of them have been carried out as he claimed.
Do not trust this man's word. I have proposed several projects and did not go through with them. I have returned all money I may have collected.
then why try again? you can't finish your projects.

DON'T GIVE THIS MAN MONEY!
1937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Kiva Mutual Fund - GLBSE Ticker: KIVA on: October 15, 2011, 05:50:17 PM
don't trust atlas with money.

This guy has raised money for several project on this forum before, none of them have been carried out as he claimed.
+1
1938  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Request to remove getmemorypool before it gets beyond being a release candidate on: October 15, 2011, 05:49:16 PM
kano: fork the client, remove stuff you don't like, problem solved Tongue
1939  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Rig not recognizing my eth0 device? on: October 15, 2011, 05:15:44 PM
how many netcards do you have?
it may be udev, that are renaming your cards.
1940  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox: Green address option on: October 15, 2011, 10:35:46 AM
Jeg er enig med dig.

We hope that Mt. Gox hasn't botched the algorithm and that a private key can not be derived from the public key nor messages (and timing and other side-channel attacks are highly unlikely unless the attacker... I won't even go there). I think we can agree with brilliant mathematicians that elliptic keys are secure and there is no concern that "bad people" will guess the private key.

Since no one can guess the private key, there is no reason to protect against it.

And how would we protect against a compromised private key anyway? If one private key could be compromised, then all of them could be compromised, and our bitcoins would be as valuable as the gold from which they were forged.

In a simple word,
Bitcoin needs bank to get things smoothy.

That's 7 words, but in a simple word 'no'.
in fact there are actually timing attacks against ECDSA: http://eprint.iacr.org/2011/232.pdf
but the paper also proposes a fix for the problem, so its no real danger.
if the key got stolen/compromised, mtgox could issue a warning, on their webpage, and disable the green address feature.
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