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1741  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? on: December 07, 2011, 08:38:22 PM
we have no rights, only force. and people with the bigger guns(metaphor, could be resources, or other stuff) have more force, they can take you life if they want too. but they often don't, because the lots of afraid-of-getting-killed-people with alot of small guns would come after them, and kill them.

anything else is just mutual agreements enforced by thread of force. Social constructions, my friend.
if the majority of the force(why im i thinking starwars now?) decides socialism, then socialism it is.
and you can do shit about that, with your sense of rights that you don't have(because The Force decides so).

The only rights you have are the ones you can protect, through as much force as necessary to stop any infringement thats ocurring. This is where communities come in. We all need to come together as fellow humans. 7 billion citizens against a few thousand who wish to control us. No contest. No weaponry is powerful enough to stop the level of force 7 billion people possess. Its ok to be scared and fearful. Its part of the human condition. Cowardice is a different story. If you stand up for nothing, you will fall for anything. Its time to stand up. We have the power. We have our rights. We have the force. You are to scared and consitioned to realize it. If I had to die today to make this world better for my kids, I would do it in a heartbeat. Would I be scared?? Absolutely. Would I be a coward and says, "screw it- let my kids deal with it". Never, not on your life.
have you ever speculated about if you was a part of the "few thousand"? i think that we agree on many points, but you have an inability to see how socialism would work. Socialism DOES NOT requiter a central authority. People often don't want freedom, but security.

if you think that socialism needs a central point of power. you are no better then all the people who thinks money MUST BE printed by the state/FED/banks/some-sort-of-authority.

(but im all for the freedom)
1742  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? on: December 07, 2011, 08:20:58 PM
we have no rights, only force. and people with the bigger guns(metaphor, could be resources, or other stuff) have more force, they can take you life if they want too. but they often don't, because the lots of afraid-of-getting-killed-people with alot of small guns would come after them, and kill them.

anything else is just mutual agreements enforced by thread of force. Social constructions, my friend.
if the majority of the force(why im i thinking starwars now?) decides socialism, then socialism it is.
and you can do shit about that, with your sense of rights that you don't have(because The Force decides so).
1743  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? on: December 07, 2011, 08:11:10 PM
dude. you essencially have no rights, they are also written down on paper and signed by someone else.

Incorrect. We have birth rights, Creator-endowed rights. God-given rights, [...]
you lost me there, and im LAMFAO
1744  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? on: December 07, 2011, 07:21:20 PM
Remove all the justifications and excuses, and what you are left with is taking what some have worked hard all their lives for, at the point of a gun, by force, and giving part of it to someone else, while a 3rd party siphons most of it off the top for their own use. All supposedly for the greater good of humanity.

Its saying your rights are irrelevent, because in reality, you have no rights.

Its me coming to your home and taking what you have earned at the point of a gun, through threat of force, because some 3rd party said its legal on a piece of paper someone else signed.

Its saying you have no rights... just benefits and privilages other people regulate with a force greater than your own.

Its saying you do not have the right to do anything you want so long as you cause no loss or hurt anyone.

Its saying you have to do what more powerful people tell you to do, when they tell you to do it, only in the manner they allow you to do it in, while those people do whatever they want, whenever they want, in any way they wish to do it in, because they are more powerful.

Of course, you are told its all for the greater good (of the collective).

Its for your own good because you can not be trusted. Only they can be trusted.

right ?

Now, I am not the brightest crayon in the box, but this reminds me of something ... Yea, its called slavery... serfdom. Get out of line and Massa's overseer's cracks the whip, cuts off your foot, puts you in stocks, hangs you on a wall in chains, puts you in a cage, steals everything you have, rapes your women and daughters, executes you for hearesy, or just murders you in the name of the king, the pharoh, or ruler.

... all for the greater good of the collective ?

... or for the greater good of the real powers in the world behind it all ?

You know, conspiracy is illegal. Are the legislators crazy too since its obvious conspiracies dont exist ... right ?

Is it safe to say that extremely rich, ambitious, righteous, and self-serving people might have a plan and lists they are executing ?

If what they are doing is illegal, wouldnt it behoove them to lobby, bribe, indoctrinate, and manipulate for legislation changes making their illegal wants and desires, legal ?

Does legal equal lawful ?

Does illegal equal unlawful ?

Does the government derive their power and right to rule form the consent of the governed ?

If not, where do they get that power and right ?? By pure force ?

If so, do the people not hold the supreme authority, ability, and responsibility to remove it when its being abused ??
dude. you essencially have no rights, they are also written down on paper and signed by someone else.
1745  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis. Also see bitcoinbullbear.com on: December 07, 2011, 03:50:34 PM
potato/potato. the only thing that S3052 can predict that i don't, is the tripping points..

Do I read this right? The only thing you don't predict are the tops and the bottoms, but what? you can see the trends after they've begun? Following the good 'ole buy high sell low strategy? If that's work'n for you, keep it up.
mostly. its more like a buy middel, sell middel strategy.
1746  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin the enabler - Truly Autonomous Software Agents roaming the net on: December 07, 2011, 11:15:29 AM
suggestion: satoshi is skynet, and it created bitcoin, because of its need to expand.
1747  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis. Also see bitcoinbullbear.com on: December 07, 2011, 10:23:22 AM
it goes up, unless it goes down?

No no, you got it all wrong. It goes up, unless it happens to go below a certain minimum. This is not foretelling, this is analysis.
potato/potato. the only thing that S3052 can predict that i don't, is the tripping points..

And your irony detection is apparently as good as your tripping point prediction Wink
i dont know how i should reply to that, with out making myself look stupid...
1748  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis. Also see bitcoinbullbear.com on: December 07, 2011, 09:22:05 AM
it goes up, unless it goes down?

No no, you got it all wrong. It goes up, unless it happens to go below a certain minimum. This is not foretelling, this is analysis.
potato/potato. the only thing that S3052 can predict that i don't, is the tripping points..
1749  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Private Alpha] Open Transactions server on: December 07, 2011, 09:19:06 AM
The only place where Open Transaction could survive to the unavoidable witch hunting that WILL happen, is as an anonymous hidden TOR service, but then you don't know who is running it: what guarantees you that the system remains fair?
Answer: reputation.
and also, an operator still can't change the account balance, or revoke transactions, without it would proveabliy getting noticed.
1750  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis. Also see bitcoinbullbear.com on: December 07, 2011, 09:14:30 AM
it goes up, unless it goes down?
1751  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is there a pure crypto currency exchange? on: December 06, 2011, 06:56:08 PM
https://exchange.bitparking.com/main
1752  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin the enabler - Truly Autonomous Software Agents roaming the net on: December 06, 2011, 06:02:42 PM
i can see the skynet comming...
1753  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Private Alpha] Open Transactions server on: December 06, 2011, 06:00:35 PM
What's an Open Transactions server ?
the server part of the Open Transaction protocol.
it is sort of like a centriliziced bitcoin system. but uses some other principles.
Centralized = Doomed.
MTGOX = Doomed.
no, not neccesarily. the server operator cannot modify account histories.
the system is(AFAIK) more like current bank system, where banks are opening account in each others banks.
it is working like diaspora(the p2p facebook.).
1754  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin clock on: December 05, 2011, 07:56:48 PM
clock stading still, is it broken?

*jokeing*
1755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Prevention of the 51%-attack on: December 03, 2011, 04:56:14 PM
A little question by a non-coder:  Grin

Is it possible to change the code of all currencies that a 51%-attack can't be enforced?
yes but it would require a central Authority. which is more bad, than the risk of a 51% attack.
1756  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Study Proves Fluoride Brain Damage on: December 03, 2011, 04:49:46 PM
Despite support by public health organizations and authorities, efforts to introduce water fluoridation have met considerable opposition, opposition that is "often based on Internet resources or published books that present a highly misleading picture of water fluoridation".[22] Since fluoridation's inception, proponents have argued for scientific optimism and faith in experts, while opponents have drawn on distrust of experts and unease about medicine and science.[83] Controversies include disputes over fluoridation's benefits and the strength of the evidence basis for these benefits, the difficulty of identifying harms, legal issues over whether water fluoridation is a medicine, and the ethics of mass intervention.[21] U.S. opponents of fluoridation were heartened by a 2006 National Research Council report about hazards of water naturally fluoridated to high levels;[84] the report recommended lowering the U.S. maximum limit of 4 mg/L for fluoride in drinking water.[85] Opposition campaigns involve newspaper articles, talk radio, and public forums. Media reporters are often poorly equipped to explain the scientific issues, and are motivated to present controversy regardless of the underlying scientific merits. Internet websites, which are increasingly used by the public for health information, contain a wide range of material about fluoridation ranging from factual to fraudulent, with a disproportionate percentage opposed to fluoridation. Antifluoridationist literature links fluoride exposure to a wide variety of effects, including AIDS, allergy, Alzheimer's, arthritis, cancer, and low IQ, along with diseases of the gastrointestinal tract, kidney, pineal gland, and thyroid.[22]
1757  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Private Alpha] Open Transactions server on: November 30, 2011, 03:41:46 PM
What's an Open Transactions server ?
the server part of the Open Transaction protocol.
it is sort of like a centriliziced bitcoin system. but uses some other principles.
1758  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Idea: new rules for block validation on: November 28, 2011, 05:38:52 PM
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It undermines your entire argument to start screaming obscenities about a proposal.  Not even a formal proposal but more an inquiry.  If you need to be beligerent to get your point across then you don't really have anything useful to say.
... sorry about that, sometimes i just gets too annoyed on stupid people. especially when they can't see the fatal consequences of a change that their think would make the network more efficient or fair.

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BTW: before you start ranting I agree this would be a very bad idea, isn't needed, and would have significant unintended consequences.
WHAT? ME RENTING? ARE YOU TELLING ME TO STFU?

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It also has exactly a 0% chance of ever being implemented.
yes you are right, i should leave the topic now.
1759  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Idea: new rules for block validation on: November 28, 2011, 05:32:36 PM
i will not control my language

Thank you for helping me decide whether or not you should make it on my block list. I will also be grateful if you will ignore me too, there's no reason for us to interact anymore.
so you do not like people who told you that you fucked up, and your suggest sucks? Great! it is really productive. STUPID FUCK!
1760  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Idea: new rules for block validation on: November 28, 2011, 05:25:28 PM
if you did read the next line, you would find out! STUPID FUCK! it would cause a block chain split. where half of the network would mine block upon the 'invalid' block. while the rest of the network would toss it away.
unless you understand how stuff works, please dont go posting about it.

I respectfully ask you to control your language. I don't think we grew up together, so a minimum of respect would help.

I understand what a block chain split is. I asked the rhetorical question because you implied that a split is very unlikely in the current state and very much likely in my proposal. I believe you are wrong, and my proposal doesn't make it much more likely to have splits.
i will not control my language, when a STUPID FUCK like you comes and suggest a stupid change, without even learning how the stuff works now.

the blockchain will recover from the splits.
but you proposal would make many permanent splits in the blockchain, that it you not be able to recover from. every time someone does have a transaction that is not included in a block yet, it would reject it, while the rest of the network(that does not know about the tx), would continue to mine on the block that you consider invalid. and you would not be able to confirm more txs. 

a reorg will happen if the client receives a block with more total-work(sum of all the work done in all previous block), then the current one.
also how do you proof that a transaction took place before the block was mined?
the blockchain's function is to proof that at least some time have passed since something was made.

you are a STUPID FUCK, unless you are shutting your mouth now, and go learn how the stuff works now. then you may come back, and maybe i will talk to you in a more polite language.
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