I am here to just say one thing? Why do YOU hate islam? ... If you need anything clarified, I am here to answer you, don't be scared, I won't be offended by anyone, also haters, you can reply, I won't care  I have only one question for you: Do you believe Mohammed flew to heaven on a flying horse? If you do, why do you believe such nonsense? |
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There's a new cult that's rising in the USA, they're African American and they believe that they're the true Israelites. It might sound surprising but racial discrimination is the core of their movement. Watch the video below for a more detailed explanation of their ideology and actions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPLP8B5G3-ILOL. They are racists and delusional. Even if they were "original" Jews and Egyptians. Who cares? Does it changes anything? All people evolved from African Apes. What is their point? Revision of history? I had to stop after Ancient Egyptians spaceships, LOL. Just get your DNA tested... |
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BTW, people who think their Glock or Mossberg will save them from violent home invasions have no imagination.
Get one small dog as a watchdog and a German Shepherd to keep intruders busy. B&E kids will not enter your house if they hear big dog barking, even if they are armed. They will go down the street to find an easier target.
"No imagination" LOL. You apparently won't even "imagine" admitting there are countless instances of barking dogs NOT being a deterrent, let alone "keeping intruders busy" for longer than the few seconds it takes to feed them meat and/or corral them off. Barking rarely correlates with escalation to defensive/territorial biting, and anybody who hasn't lived in a dog-free bubble knows that. Hell, I would even say houses with barking dogs are the safest places to target, if known to be 24/7/365 barkers; nothing will seem out of the ordinary when they bark at actual invaders instead of, for example, just leaves falling off trees (yes, I've lived next to a dog like that). For further reading, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf , or The Wolf Who Cried Boy Get the right dog, train it. My dog detects strangers within 20-30 ft of my house. Only barks when there is danger (in his mind). You would not want to challenge him even if you were packing. He would finish any intruder in matter of seconds. Before you could squeeze that trigger he would be tearing your aorta apart. I've seen him in action once with porcupine, it was less than a second affair. I was standing 10-15 ft away looking at it, but could not understand what happened. Before I realized what happened, the porcupine was lying next to my leg dead. I remember a big jump, few moves left/right and boom, game over. If your dog is as dangerous to apples as he is to oranges, I'm afraid your last post on this subject will be saying you're going to prison, after it killed an innocent, and your admission to training an autonomous lethal weapon was Exhibit A. I hope we'll just be able to laugh at this someday, and not lament the loss of another bitcoiner because background checks were false positived, medical history was abused to disqualify for having sneezed or another irrelevant malady, and/or interviews with psychologists/psychiatrists were politically abused in a repeat of history. My dog did not need training. He is a good watchdog and will attack anyone who attacks me. Autonomous lethal weapon? What are you talking about? I guess you hate dogs. A simple fact is that it is always better to go into a gun fight with a gun in your hand. So if you preach banning of guns you are preaching killing of innocent people who cannot defend themselves. Banning gun laws only apply to people who obey the laws. Criminals don't obey them. You still should control who is allowed (by law) to own a gun but you cannot control who gets the gun illegally. My advise was to get a good watchdog dog and a dog for personal protection (like German Shepherd). What is wrong with that? |
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BTW, people who think their Glock or Mossberg will save them from violent home invasions have no imagination.
Get one small dog as a watchdog and a German Shepherd to keep intruders busy. B&E kids will not enter your house if they hear big dog barking, even if they are armed. They will go down the street to find an easier target.
"No imagination" LOL. You apparently won't even "imagine" admitting there are countless instances of barking dogs NOT being a deterrent, let alone "keeping intruders busy" for longer than the few seconds it takes to feed them meat and/or corral them off. Barking rarely correlates with escalation to defensive/territorial biting, and anybody who hasn't lived in a dog-free bubble knows that. Hell, I would even say houses with barking dogs are the safest places to target, if known to be 24/7/365 barkers; nothing will seem out of the ordinary when they bark at actual invaders instead of, for example, just leaves falling off trees (yes, I've lived next to a dog like that). For further reading, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf , or The Wolf Who Cried Boy Get the right dog, train it. My dog detects strangers within 20-30 ft of my house. Only barks when there is danger (in his mind). You would not want to challenge him even if you were packing. He would finish any intruder in matter of seconds. Before you could squeeze that trigger he would be tearing your aorta apart. I've seen him in action once with porcupine, it was less than a second affair. I was standing 10-15 ft away looking at it, but could not understand what happened. Before I realized what happened, the porcupine was lying next to my leg dead. I remember a big jump, few moves left/right and boom, game over. Of course there are dogs that bark for 'no reason'. They are not stupid dogs, their owners don't know how to read them, clueless how to interact with dogs, so that poor dog tries over and over to talk to their owners, but nobody is home :-). Of course, having that Glock close by 'just in case' is a good idea. |
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What is wrong with just adding user agent, protocol peer node filtering?
Satoshi:0.xx.x nodes would have configurable entry to specify which UAs and protocol versions to allow connections from? This would screw up any statistics about nodes as everyone would have to run with 'satoshi' ua and only specific protocol levels would be allowed.
satoshi nodes would not accept or initiate connections to non satoshi nodes, not matching protocol versions defined in the config file.
Classic and XT can run as truly alt coins on their own network.
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The two largest social networks, Facebook and Twitter, and the world’s largest search engine, Google, have teamed up with German law enforcement to delete “hate speech” within 24 hours in what is being seen as a last-ditch effort to silence public dissent about a gigantic wave of Syrian immigration. The partnership to crack down on what Germany deems illegal speech comes after German law enforcement’s reported concerns about “racist abuse” posted to social media after the country’s huge and extremely controversial import of over a million Syrian refugees. Justice Minister Heiko Maas is reported to have warned social networks that they must not become “a funfair for the far-right” and that “the benchmark to be applied will be German law and no longer just the terms of use of each network.” Specialist teams will be used to track down, examine, and remove offending posts, and the process is not to take more than 24 hours. After World War Two, all Nazi-related imagery and material was made illegal irrespective of context in Germany. All Nazi-related swastikas and salutes were replaced in the Wolfenstein video game remake, owing to this law. http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/15/facebook-twitter-google-collude-with-german-government-to-censor-discussion-on-immigration/Germany still did not recover from the guilt of atrocities they have committed during WWII. What are they trying to prove? They think people think they are Nazis, I guess. So they bend backwards to prove they are not. I'm not sure why this is happening. Merkel has destroyed Germany. Europe will be burning for decades, until it disintegrates into Islamic, 6th century Caliphate. |
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 Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill. I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it. Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem. Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent. After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically. Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights. Are gun control laws constitutional? What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms? Background checks, medical history, maybe interviews with psychologists/psychiatrists... BTW, people who think their Glock or Mossberg will save them from violent home invasions have no imagination. Get one small dog as a watchdog and a German Shepherd to keep intruders busy. B&E kids will not enter your house if they hear big dog barking, even if they are armed. They will go down the street to find an easier target. Sure if you still want to buy a piece for "protection", np. |
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LOL. To answer your why? People are in denial. Why? because of ignorance of evolution. If more people actually study evolution, they would know that we are ALL African apes. Instead, people cling on to bronze age myths and scribblings of goat herders to justify their inhumane actions. |
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Agreed, fork proposals are not Bitcoin.
I also find naming fork proposals like XT and Classic kind of ridiculous. There's no need to try to add flavors or plant flags like that. Bitcoin is Bitcoin and if it's not then that's an irrelevant altcoin.
not so ridiculous. 5% of network runs 'classic' nodes according to bitnodes.21.ca I'm surprised "Satoshi:0.xx.x" clients don't refuse connections from nodes with non-bitcoin user agent strings. It should be configurable option to list what node types (user agents, protocol numbers) are allowed to connect to your node. If "Satoshi:0.12.1" had this feature, classic nodes will have to connect to themselves. |
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Suggestion for GPU only PoW change for Core
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You are forgetting that nobody will be interested in doing "51% takeover" on worthless coin, just like today big farms or pools are not pointing their hashing power to mine sha alt coins, taking over their networks and double spend worthless coins. They have invested a lot of capital into mining BTC, time is money for them. If they all agree on mining "classic coin" they will not waste time with "core coin". If you have more miners mining 'classic' flavour, the longest chain wins. Period. The worst part of this whole saga is that "end users" will decide how to solve technical issues. This does not bode well for long-term viability of bitcoin. Miners, retailers, end users will all lose if that hard fork happens. This hard fork is really dangerous now, especially when bitcoin community is already split BEFORE the hard fork. So yes, I agree, we'll have two coins for a while. |
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I wonder why there is no discussion of of shortening the inter-block time (together with a commesurate reduction in block reward in order to keep total emission the same). A halving of the target block time to 5 minutes would double the capacity of the network. Reducing to two minutes would increase the transaction capcacity five-fold.
I think you have answered your own question. More blocks and transactions means more storage and bandwidth required to run a node. Overtime, these will increase non linearly and force nodes out, leaving only few central nodes that would cost $$$ to operate. This is what will kill bitcoin as we know it. Keeping the growth below this magic threshold of "decentralization point of no return" is the key here. Why the round numbers? Because they are guesstimates. People keep throwing the numbers to see which number will be accepted. Majority is almost always wrong. Accept it. |
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To be honestly i dont think a 500GB Blockchain should be a problem in the near future.
SSD's will get pretty cheap.
The growth is not linear. I've seen 15 fold increase in few years. Speeding up recently. People who advocate large block size ignore the facts. Blockchain growth is like human population growth. Give it resources and means to grow, and the size will explode. Limiting the growth below a magic number is the key to a long term survival of both. |
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We already know that we have to download Bitcoin Core wallet if we want to contribute the network by running the full node of the blockchain. But it will be a tedious job download the full chain of size 80 GB again if there happens something wrong with one's wallet and it needs to restart a wallet from the beginning. So is there a recent bootstrap file available anywhere so that I can keep it as a backup in case I need it whenever I start a new wallet? Or can anyone help me out on how to create a bootstrap file myself directly from the wallet files? Technical helps are much appreciated  1. Configure/keep data directory under subdirectory in the installation directory, change your startup script to point to that data directory. 2. Backup your wallet.dat 3. Delete wallet.dat from your data directory. Backup the whole installation/data directory. 4. Now you can put backup in 3. anywhere (for example: your new node) 5. Restart 4., it will recreate wallet.dat (with a new default address) If you backup installation/data directory every few weeks (and before any major release), you will be ok. Even if they are down for a while, when you restart them, they will catch up. No need to download of the whole blockchain. Remember, blockchain and your wallet are two different things. The blockchain files are (should be) identical on all your nodes once synchronized with the network. wallet.dat should be different. Just keep blockchain with the matching binaries, so that if you need to upgrade, you'll have no issues. First synchronize, then upgrade. You should maintain your nodes by upgrading binaries to the latest, released version. |
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Do you need to be retaught the same lesson every year, when the latest shiny new potential hard fork declares its noble intention to push aside all contention and declare itself The New Bitcoin?
Aren't you assuming the cypherpunks who built and maintain the systems you presume to attack won't wreck Classic in self-defense?
+1 I'm sure scripts are already tested, ready to go... Denying Bitcoin's anarchist/libertarian roots is like denying nature. Bitcoin is and always should be "stick it to the man/free the people" typo of currency. People like Gavin and Garzik are just sour grapes. How many commits did Garzik do exactly? Why you need bitcoin in space? He is preparing for Armageddon? I'd worry about running it on dry land first Anyway, I hope all this saga will be behind us soon and Gavin/Garzik types will leave bitcoin to run their "Bitcoin Classic Odyssey" in space or on some other distant planet. Never to be heard from again. |
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I mean what the hell are we even talking about ? Are you even familiar with the events of last 2 weeks ? The events of last 10 days should be enough for every good, honest & truthful person to hate Blockstream & Bitcoin Core for eternity !
I got the feeling we are not on the same page here.
Go easy on the meds. If you are advocating hard fork in this environment, you better sell all bitcoins, because if it happens it will be over for bitcoin. Other coins will fill the void. Either way, people who want hard fork now thinking the price will shoot up are not thinking straight. For me bitcoin was NEVER about the money. The original principles and vision was what attracted me to bitcoin. I see efforts to destroy this vision. If you think core is harming bitcoin, wait for classic (and number of hard forks, altcoins: Bitcoin Unleashed, Bitcoin Hard to Kill, Bitcoin II, Bitcoin Fort Knox, World Wide Bitcoin etc.) and see what happens. Do you even know what are you advocating? |
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I think the plan behind bip101 was that the average internet connection will likely keep getting faster with time, even today some people have 1Gbit fiber connection at home, others are probably watching 4k netflix right now. Average internet connectivity improvements only give about 30% per year optimistically. BIP 101 was far more aggressive than that. And while some minority of the world has 1 Gbit available, requiring it would be saying nobody else can use Bitcoin. I'm only slightly rural and I can't get better than 5/0.5 Mbps yet. A minority of the world has >1Mb/s persistent internet, persistent power and a computing device capable of running Bitcoin. If some people can't run Bitcoin full nodes now, it's not a failure - nor will it be the case if some can't run it in the future. There are literally hundreds of millions of people that have persistent home broadband sufficient to run with larger blocks. It's not relevant that you aren't one of them. The idea is not to run nodes only on fast Internet backbones. Remember the original idea was to have a truly distributed system. Scaling should be slow, slightly above the hardware improvement rate. We have plenty of Paypal wannabes and many altcoins where seemingly simple parameter change caused failures later on. I agree with gmaxwell, changes should be carefully made, not to infringe on the original vision. If you want to make paypal coin, go ahead, just don't call it a bitcoin. If core loses this 'battle', I think the original bitcoin experiment will be over. Thanks to shortsightedness of people like Gavin and Garzik. |
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WTF? Why you even have to ask? Of course it is, what else? Just like XT... If they fail this time, they will try to bribe, threaten or simply buy core devs. I heard Maxwell got dead threats already. These a-holes (banks, commercial interests) will stop at nothing. I hope Anderson/Bell and Garzik fail in this hostile takeover. |
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As long as core devs are in charge there is no need to sell any bitcoins. Keep them, pass them on to your children and grandchildren.
But if classic guys (aka banks & commercial interests) take over, it will be time to dump all of your coins on the initial bump. If they can control the code, I can guarantee you they will be hard forking this thing every few months, maybe even change the 21M total. Why not? It is a header file change after all. Same 'difficulty' as the block size change.
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I'll take that bet.
I say Classic will boost Bitcoin price drastically. Everyone will be cheering that the scalability impasse has been bridged and that the era of centralized development is over!
At least we know your motivation for support of Classic. Success of bitcoin should not be measured by its price. BTW, a static increase of block size does not solve anything. It is like changing size of an array on the stack, if you need to store more data, you have the same problem. A real solution would be to allow for dynamic size. The question is how to grow this size and how to build consensus of what the currently agreed (between nodes) max block size is. You need two algorithms: one to grow the size, another one to 'broadcast' what the new, to be accepted size suppose to be. If the system was centralized, solution would be easy. a central node would decide what the new size is, and inform all other nodes. But bitcoin is decentralized and more democratic, your node is as valid and needed as any other node on the network. So that is where the challenge begins. What classic offers is hard forks every few months or years. Not to take away Galvin's contributions to bitcoin, but his suggestions fall short. I've seen too many times projects fail because they were deployed without proper testing. Just because the code change is easy does not make it right. If you ever looked at bitcoin code, you'll not want to rush any new changes without extensive testing. Changing a header constant is not a solution, it is postponing it at the expense of a hard fork. |
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And so it starts, as we count down the days to the Bitcoin Classic Hard Fork....
Blockstream/Core supporters are spewing ::: FUD. Bitterness. Denial. Sabotage.
But with broad consensus and support on all sides, it is apparent that Classic will prevail, and soon this legacy of Blockstream/Core will be over, their little attempted takeover of Bitcoin ended. I wonder how they will be remembered and treated afterwards. Personally I say let some other team introduce sidechains if they are to be supported. Its just code. Somebody else will rise up and do a proper sidechain - without trying to cripple bitcoin in the process. But what do you think? How do you think they should be treated? Vote in the poll.www.BitcoinClassic.com <<<Get On Board And Ride the Wave To New Highs Baby!!! It seems you don't care about bitcoin. Stop this nonsense. Think. If classic is deployed, it will fracture bitcoin community, you can bet your coins the value will drop drastically. Network will split which might create multiple flavours of "bitcoin". Where do people get this idea, core is bad, classic is good. Miners might shoot themselves in the foot by selecting classic. Bitcoin price will collapse and people will not touch it for a very long time. People will walk away. Mining worthless coins will not continue for long. Instead they should follow core roadmap, IMHO. |
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