In the future, religious beliefs will be classified as mental delusions. It is a matter of time. Science will march forward
This has happened before and will happen again. Every tyrannical regime seeks to suppress belief in God for belief in God and the laws that derive from that belief ultimately undermine tyrannical control. Thus belief in God must be attacked or at least twisted and controlled by any seeking to impose a coercive system upon humanity. I thought the religious regimes were/are the most tyrannical. Maybe you got this backward. Secularism is what brought women's rights, gay rights, equality of races and genders etc. Which thought is more flexible, religious or secular? Which system is more coercive? Secular or religious one? Think about it before you post again. Hint: Secular does not necessarily mean communist, socialist or some other dictatorial system. |
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They are delusional because other people don't see what they see. So by the definition, they are delusional. Many people in the mental wards see things that others don't see.
These guys are not mentally ill though, they are practitioners of major religious institutions, they are church leaders and pastors etc. We are forcing God into a box by saying that God must do this or do that in order for us to believe. How do you know? There are many people who have not been diagnosed yet. Many politicians, CEOs are psychopaths. Religious people who hear or see things that are not real are mentally sick. Anyone who hears or sees things that are not real (Jesus or Muhammad riding on buraq are good examples) is insane. Sometimes your mental illness will still allow you to function in today's society without causing too much harm to yourself or others. There are of course the Jesus camps for kids etc. which cause some real and life lasting harm. Look up the definitions before you proclaim your truths. There is nothing to debate. We all share the same reality, and if someone perceives this reality differently, well, they are either geniuses or delusional. In the future, religious beliefs will be classified as mental delusions. It is a matter of time. Science will march forward and push the Bronze Age myths to the footprints of history. Once the church will lose its political power, the con will be over. |
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The fact is that god is not a scientific theory, hypothesis or anything, it's just religion. It's by definition something that you have to believe in based on faith, not evidence, which is what everyone does. Faith is not a good path to the truth, that's also a fact.
In my opinion, the experiences with God are not necessarily based on faith or belief. Some people have experienced true, personal, life changing miracles that prove to them God is real. To them, they don't need to believe in God, they know God exists. ''have experienced true, personal, life changing miracles that prove to them God is real.'' This is by definition faith. It's called delusion. How do they know it's true? They don't, there is no evidence, therefore it's faith. Yes, but they believe their experiences were real, they don't need us to believe them. They know what they saw, we don't know what they saw. We don't believe them, we call them "delusional" The definition of faith would be never having any experience of any sort and still believe in God, that is faith. I think it is completely different. They are delusional because other people don't see what they see. So by the definition, they are delusional. Many people in the mental wards see things that others don't see. |
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I'm still not clear on why I shouldn't tell somebody who is lying to my face and gaslighting me to go rope themselves. Perhaps there's a translation issue?
You attempt to use Bible as proof for FE. Why don't you use it for what it has been made for... Jesus salvation. But if you believe in Jesus, why don't you start practicing the Jesus life a little better. If you don't believe, why are you even using the Bible at all? Are you really so subtly deceptive that you think that you can trick Bible believers into your FE beliefs by quoting the Bible a little?  Don't you see the irony in your statement above? You use the Bible to prove how people, Earth and Universe were created! 6 days, 6000 years ago etc. does this ring a bell? Literary works should not be used for anything in science, nevermind for the scientific proofs. Looks like your Bible is a Swiss Army knife. LOL. |
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Not sure the Pope is the best source to be citing for moral clarity. He is not widly regarding outside of Catholic circles and even withing Catholicism his standing is rapidly diminishing for various reasons. Pope Francis’ approval rating plummets among Catholics https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-francis-approval-rating-plummets-among-american-catholics-in-responsemichaelkelly8798 raises a fair point about scientific theories. Many people grab onto whatever scientific theory is currently in vogue and proclaim it as absolute truth. Often this is a way for the slower minded to avoid thinking about a topic. They just want to be told the answer. People who just want to be told the answer often get upset and angry when an answer they have already accepted is questioned. Uncorrupted science is a search for truth. Plausible ideas and concepts that are not incompatible with current observations are scientific theories. Proven reproducible facts are scientific laws. Theories are often wrong no matter how many scientists ascribe to them. The trashcan of history is full of discarded theories that were once widely embraced by scientists. michaelkelly8798, is a deluded automaton, he probably cannot tie his shoes never mind understand anything in biochemistry or biology. Pope was just echoing what PAS (Pontifical Academy of Sciences) has been saying for years. http://www.pas.va/content/accademia/en/publications/acta/acta23/arber.html |
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All you have to do is read through the topic, Scientific proof that God exists? - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.0 However, this topic is not for believing that God exists. It is for showing the proof that God exists, so that you KNOW that God exists. When a person doesn't understand the proof, he might believe (or not) depending on the way the discussion goes. When a person understands the proof, he stops being a believer that God exists, because he KNOWS that God exists. Then why does the Bible - and many other religious books - say that faith is required for salvation? What does a person have to have faith in to be saved? Faith is in the things that God SAYS and PROMISES. Faith is NOT faith in the fact that God exists. God's existence in known. The thing that is not known is if He is telling the truth about Himself and salvation. We have faith that He IS truthful. Believe what God says. You already know that He exists. These folks need some real knowledge, well done. You win, I give up. Now, take your medication and go read the Bible. Good night boys and girls. |
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Algo mas, puta?
Not sure highlighting your ability to use curse words and vulgar language in spanish highlights intellectual superiority to the degree you were going for here af-newbie. Solo trata de impresionar, pero no sabe que a quien trata de impresionar habla Spanish perfectamente, y que entiende mucho de lenguas pues lleva mucho tiempo estudiando idiomas, solo que no soy alguien conflictivo pues se que ser grosero es el ultimo recurso del incompetente. Que? Eres un idiota, ese fue mi punto. Tus videos fueron para ninos. Somos adultos aqui, no? No le gusta, vaya a otra parte. Once again showing your last resort? Listen, there is nothing to show. You showed us everything there is to see. Some stupid, half-ass videos for kids. How stupid can you be? What is next? You are going to dig up some videos of possession and exorcism? People can speak languages, so what? That girl needed a translator and spoke some phrases she learned in English? C'mon, give me a break. I told you what happens when a person dies. There is no coming back. Full stop. Put him on ignore like I did, there is no point in discussing with this guy, at least badecker attempts to use science, this guy on the other hand is a complete moron, perhaps he is a 14 year old kid. Badecker then wasted his time using science with you guys, the only science you understand is Darwin's story, that's your religion even though you THINK you have no religion, you are putting all of your faith in it with all your heart without a single proof. God have mercy on you and forgive you for all the words you've used against Him and for all the people that you've mislead thanks to your (unfounded) arguments. It better be "no coming back." like you say. You can ignore me, I don't think you can ignore Him though. Which God are you babbling about? Never mind, just ask him to post here, otherwise, I recommend you check it out, it could be a tumor. Your imaginary friend does not scare me, because I know he/she/it does not exist. You too should not be afraid of that boogeyman your parents told you about when you were young. Ask him to post here, I dare you. Guess what, I have been asking morons like you to ask their imaginary friend(s) to post on this and other forums with the same result. No God posted anywhere since the Internet has been invented (by people). Where is the youtube video posted by God? There are billions of videos on youtube and not ONE is from God.Didn't they teach him in the Bronze Age school how to use computers? You guys are hilarious. |
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Algo mas, puta?
Not sure highlighting your ability to use curse words and vulgar language in spanish highlights intellectual superiority to the degree you were going for here af-newbie. Solo trata de impresionar, pero no sabe que a quien trata de impresionar habla Spanish perfectamente, y que entiende mucho de lenguas pues lleva mucho tiempo estudiando idiomas, solo que no soy alguien conflictivo pues se que ser grosero es el ultimo recurso del incompetente. Que? Eres un idiota, ese fue mi punto. Tus videos fueron para ninos. Somos adultos aqui, no? No le gusta, vaya a otra parte. Once again showing your last resort? Listen, there is nothing to show. You showed us everything there is to see. Some stupid, half-ass videos for kids. How stupid can you be? What is next? You are going to dig up some videos of possession and exorcism? People can speak languages, so what? That girl needed a translator and spoke some phrases she learned in English? C'mon, give me a break. I told you what happens when a person dies. There is no coming back. Full stop. |
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Algo mas, puta?
Not sure highlighting your ability to use curse words and vulgar language in spanish highlights intellectual superiority to the degree you were going for here af-newbie. Solo trata de impresionar, pero no sabe que a quien trata de impresionar habla Spanish perfectamente, y que entiende mucho de lenguas pues lleva mucho tiempo estudiando idiomas, solo que no soy alguien conflictivo pues se que ser grosero es el ultimo recurso del incompetente. Que? Eres un idiota, ese fue mi punto. Tus videos fueron para ninos. Somos adultos aqui, no? No le gusta, vaya a otra parte. |
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Im just following up DorisHank's post, I have to admit you are different than most atheists, there are some guys out there who don't accept truth even when they see it with their own eyes. No fanaticism from your side though. That should be the point of a discussion. I will post some links when I get home so you can view them (I'm at work right now and can't use youtube). Just a little anecdote of something that happened to my family: In the country I live there's a lot of crime, my father's vehicle broke down in the middle of a place surrounded by ghettos, the belt of the engine of the minivan broke, and the vehicle couldn't start, there was a gang of criminals who were there watching and went to attack my father to rob him (my father was there with some relatives, all of them women, just a male child, they were coming from a trip), they all approached him one of the gang members was holding my father from the back and another attempted to stab him on the chest since he refused to be robbed and an angel appeared and protected my father from been stabbed, making the guy drop the knife, he deceived the criminals acting like he had a gun and they ran away, as they ran away one of the criminals found out he actually didn't have a gun with him and warned the others, as they were approaching again he got on the minivan with my aunts and the vehicle started and ran at least 2 kms from there "without belt on the engine". I'm not asking you to believe in this anecdote since these are just my words. I'm not trying to induce you to believe in something you don't, I will just show you some evidence and it will be your responsibility from there on believing or not. I will post a link as well of a Russian girl who woke up one day and was praising God in perfect English, you will see with your own eyes the impossible, this is all documented.
Now even if I believed your story, which could have happened, how do you explain all the other thousands of stories similar but from other gods, muslims, hindus, they all claim the same things but with their gods. They all claim their gods did the miracles, etc etc. No god has done what the God of the bible has. After watching the videos, I can show you not only historical proof, but geological proof of the veracity of the Bible. If you examine the dietary restrictions of the bible you will see that God is the root of all science, you will notice the logic behind the dietary restrictions. The body type of each animal (digestive system) and the type of food they eat based on a few characteristics of their bodies like scales or if cloven-hoofed. Nobody could have made this up. There's a creator that knows his creation very well. Well, an all powerful god could have created our bodies in such a way that we can eat anything or perhaps only make things that are healthy for us to eat, just saying mate. You didn't even take a second to analize what I just told you, Im starting to think you are just interested in diverging. God wants obedience, that could've been a reason why he didn't make all food healthy as you state. That's why there's so much suffering in the world, that's why there's death, that's why there is injustice in this world, because of disobedience, people don't want to follow God's commands and have become egotistical and rebel against him. As promised: (y o utube . co m/watch?v=vx-hiGaZ4xc), (y o utube . co m/watch?v=iuKG7Ivp-00), (y o utube . c om/watch?v=-akrjZ-1PMk), remove spaces. An all powerful, all knowing and all loving god doesn't want anything, you can't even grasp the concept of a god like that, someone that knows everything and can do anything wants nothing. Please tell me that's not your proof, do you actually believe that because of those shitty ass videos? Am I being trolled here? I guess I was totally wrong, you are just another fanatic. You believe you know it all, that you have a superior mind and that even God has to be what you conceive in your mind he should be like. You are not interested in finding truth, you prefer basing your beliefs on your own opinion and thoughts. I guess there must be all kinds of people so the world can be the world. It's written "They have eyes and can't see, ears and can't hear." You see a little baby come back to life after been dead for one night, you see a person waking up and speaking a total different language without having any knowledge of it, and that doesn't even get you to wonder if you could be wrong. There are millions of cases, but no matter what you see you will never believe. God doesn't need us as you may know and like I said in the beginning, you are now free to believe what you want. Cell death is an irreversible process because the damage is irreversible. The baby was not dead.Dying is a process. Your brain takes the longest to die, about 2 hours for the last cells to die. All other cells in your body die much sooner. Biochemical reactions in your cells need oxygen. Without them, your cells cannot function and slowly die. PS. It is science, bitch. Swallow it. af_newbie you don't know what you are talking about, how have you diagnosed that? And how is it possible she came back after prayer? I've talked to you before and you don't like to do any reasoning but always to be contrary, so I'm not gonna try to convince you of anything. I know what I am talking about. You, well, not so much. BTW, the Polish girl is mispronouncing 'word' (she slipped up at 2:07 with 'vort'), a typical mistake for Polish people. Nothing new, she learned a few sentences in English. I speak 5 languages so what? I fucking learned them. Ty jestes otumaniny przez swoja pierdolonona religie. Ja wiem co ja mowie, you on the other hand, jestes pojebany na 100 procent. How is that for speaking in "tongues"? Algo mas, puta? |
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Im just following up DorisHank's post, I have to admit you are different than most atheists, there are some guys out there who don't accept truth even when they see it with their own eyes. No fanaticism from your side though. That should be the point of a discussion. I will post some links when I get home so you can view them (I'm at work right now and can't use youtube). Just a little anecdote of something that happened to my family: In the country I live there's a lot of crime, my father's vehicle broke down in the middle of a place surrounded by ghettos, the belt of the engine of the minivan broke, and the vehicle couldn't start, there was a gang of criminals who were there watching and went to attack my father to rob him (my father was there with some relatives, all of them women, just a male child, they were coming from a trip), they all approached him one of the gang members was holding my father from the back and another attempted to stab him on the chest since he refused to be robbed and an angel appeared and protected my father from been stabbed, making the guy drop the knife, he deceived the criminals acting like he had a gun and they ran away, as they ran away one of the criminals found out he actually didn't have a gun with him and warned the others, as they were approaching again he got on the minivan with my aunts and the vehicle started and ran at least 2 kms from there "without belt on the engine". I'm not asking you to believe in this anecdote since these are just my words. I'm not trying to induce you to believe in something you don't, I will just show you some evidence and it will be your responsibility from there on believing or not. I will post a link as well of a Russian girl who woke up one day and was praising God in perfect English, you will see with your own eyes the impossible, this is all documented.
Now even if I believed your story, which could have happened, how do you explain all the other thousands of stories similar but from other gods, muslims, hindus, they all claim the same things but with their gods. They all claim their gods did the miracles, etc etc. No god has done what the God of the bible has. After watching the videos, I can show you not only historical proof, but geological proof of the veracity of the Bible. If you examine the dietary restrictions of the bible you will see that God is the root of all science, you will notice the logic behind the dietary restrictions. The body type of each animal (digestive system) and the type of food they eat based on a few characteristics of their bodies like scales or if cloven-hoofed. Nobody could have made this up. There's a creator that knows his creation very well. Well, an all powerful god could have created our bodies in such a way that we can eat anything or perhaps only make things that are healthy for us to eat, just saying mate. You didn't even take a second to analize what I just told you, Im starting to think you are just interested in diverging. God wants obedience, that could've been a reason why he didn't make all food healthy as you state. That's why there's so much suffering in the world, that's why there's death, that's why there is injustice in this world, because of disobedience, people don't want to follow God's commands and have become egotistical and rebel against him. As promised: (y o utube . co m/watch?v=vx-hiGaZ4xc), (y o utube . co m/watch?v=iuKG7Ivp-00), (y o utube . c om/watch?v=-akrjZ-1PMk), remove spaces. An all powerful, all knowing and all loving god doesn't want anything, you can't even grasp the concept of a god like that, someone that knows everything and can do anything wants nothing. Please tell me that's not your proof, do you actually believe that because of those shitty ass videos? Am I being trolled here? I guess I was totally wrong, you are just another fanatic. You believe you know it all, that you have a superior mind and that even God has to be what you conceive in your mind he should be like. You are not interested in finding truth, you prefer basing your beliefs on your own opinion and thoughts. I guess there must be all kinds of people so the world can be the world. It's written "They have eyes and can't see, ears and can't hear." You see a little baby come back to life after been dead for one night, you see a person waking up and speaking a total different language without having any knowledge of it, and that doesn't even get you to wonder if you could be wrong. There are millions of cases, but no matter what you see you will never believe. God doesn't need us as you may know and like I said in the beginning, you are now free to believe what you want. Cell death is an irreversible process because the damage is irreversible. The baby was not dead.Dying is a process. Your brain takes the longest to die, about 2 hours for the last cells to die. All other cells in your body die much sooner. Biochemical reactions in your cells need oxygen. Without them, your cells cannot function and slowly die. PS. It is science, bitch. Swallow it. |
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^^^ There are lots of happenings like this. Although some of them are fake, most of them are real. The Holy Spirit is manifesting Himself around the world in these last times. What is the Holy Spirit? What is it made of? Where is it? How come no scientist is studying it? |
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Im just following up DorisHank's post, I have to admit you are different than most atheists, there are some guys out there who don't accept truth even when they see it with their own eyes. No fanaticism from your side though. That should be the point of a discussion. I will post some links when I get home so you can view them (I'm at work right now and can't use youtube). Just a little anecdote of something that happened to my family: In the country I live there's a lot of crime, my father's vehicle broke down in the middle of a place surrounded by ghettos, the belt of the engine of the minivan broke, and the vehicle couldn't start, there was a gang of criminals who were there watching and went to attack my father to rob him (my father was there with some relatives, all of them women, just a male child, they were coming from a trip), they all approached him one of the gang members was holding my father from the back and another attempted to stab him on the chest since he refused to be robbed and an angel appeared and protected my father from been stabbed, making the guy drop the knife, he deceived the criminals acting like he had a gun and they ran away, as they ran away one of the criminals found out he actually didn't have a gun with him and warned the others, as they were approaching again he got on the minivan with my aunts and the vehicle started and ran at least 2 kms from there "without belt on the engine". I'm not asking you to believe in this anecdote since these are just my words. I'm not trying to induce you to believe in something you don't, I will just show you some evidence and it will be your responsibility from there on believing or not. I will post a link as well of a Russian girl who woke up one day and was praising God in perfect English, you will see with your own eyes the impossible, this is all documented.
Now even if I believed your story, which could have happened, how do you explain all the other thousands of stories similar but from other gods, muslims, hindus, they all claim the same things but with their gods. They all claim their gods did the miracles, etc etc. No god has done what the God of the bible has. After watching the videos, I can show you not only historical proof, but geological proof of the veracity of the Bible. If you examine the dietary restrictions of the bible you will see that God is the root of all science, you will notice the logic behind the dietary restrictions. The body type of each animal (digestive system) and the type of food they eat based on a few characteristics of their bodies like scales or if cloven-hoofed. Nobody could have made this up. There's a creator that knows his creation very well. Well, an all powerful god could have created our bodies in such a way that we can eat anything or perhaps only make things that are healthy for us to eat, just saying mate. You didn't even take a second to analize what I just told you, Im starting to think you are just interested in diverging. God wants obedience, that could've been a reason why he didn't make all food healthy as you state. That's why there's so much suffering in the world, that's why there's death, that's why there is injustice in this world, because of disobedience, people don't want to follow God's commands and have become egotistical and rebel against him. As promised: (y o utube . co m/watch?v=vx-hiGaZ4xc), (y o utube . co m/watch?v=iuKG7Ivp-00), (y o utube . c om/watch?v=-akrjZ-1PMk), remove spaces. How do you know what your God wants? |
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I am aware of hoarding and tax loopholes. Tax loopholes should be closed. I am also aware that although speculative investment happens, it is unrealistic that every vacant property would be simultaneously off the market to a point where new businesses could not obtain leases.
The only reason there are tax loopholes is because there is a tax system in the first place. Remove the system, et voilà! ... You guys are not only stupid but dangerous. Without the tax system, there would be no country. The government can either collect taxes or go into debt. Someone needs to pay YOUR bills. You misunderstand me. I was not advocating of removing the tax system. I was merely point out the fact that tax loopholes only exist because a tax system exists in the first place. However, before the 16th amendment was created, how do you think the government made money? Not through taxes, but mostly free trade. There are alternatives to taxes. I misunderstood, I thought you wanted to remove the tax system. Today, the government needs taxes and lots of them. The debt interest payments increase every year, not to mention spending and the size of the government. You know, building border walls, fighting wars that cannot be won, spending money on immigrants etc. There is no way the government can survive without taxes. They barely survive with them. |
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God of the Bible is a psychopath who recommends genocide, murder, rape, slavery etc.
It is no surprise he would welcome other psychopaths in heaven.
God killed a lot more than 10,000 innocent people in the time it took me to write posts in this thread.
Your understanding of the Bible is deeply flawed. I recommend the following book should you desire to understand the Bible whose verses trigger you so. Or continue in ignorance at your discretion. https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Bible-Exodus-Dennis-Prager/dp/1621577724 A national bestseller!
Why do so many people think the Bible, the most influential book in world history, is outdated? Why do our friends and neighbors – and sometimes we ourselves – dismiss the Bible as irrelevant, irrational, immoral, or all of these things? This explanation of the Book of Exodus, the second book of the Bible, will demonstrate that the Bible is not only powerfully relevant to today’s issues, but completely consistent with rational thought.
Do you think the Bible permitted the trans-Atlantic slave trade? You won’t after reading this book.
Do you struggle to love your parents? If you do, you need this book.
Do you doubt the existence of God because belief in God is “irrational?” This book will give you reason after reason to rethink your doubts.
The title of this commentary is, “The Rational Bible” because its approach is entirely reason-based. The reader is never asked to accept anything on faith alone. As Prager says, “If something I write does not make rational sense, I have not done my job.”
The Rational Bible is the fruit of Dennis Prager’s forty years of teaching the Bible to people of every faith, and no faith. On virtually every page, you will discover how the text relates to the contemporary world and to your life.
His goal: to change your mind – and then change your life.
Can you please stop your narcissistic nonsense? Leviticus 20:13,... The laws provided by GOD in the Bible are illegal in today's world. So you cannot follow it even if you want to. Do you really want me to give you the fucking verses again, for the 100th time? Slavery, genocide, killing and more killing. People who wrote this shit were so primitive that it just blows my mind. If people followed the Bible we would be literally having blood running in the streets. |
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God of the Bible is a psychopath who recommends genocide, murder, rape, slavery etc.
It is no surprise he would welcome other psychopaths in heaven.
God killed a lot more than 10,000 innocent people in the time it took me to write posts in this thread.
From my limited understanding of Christianity, God killed the wicked people. We don't have much information to claim these people were "innocent", for all we know, they were murderers and rapists themselves. We are looking at information and judging it from one side of the coin. Babies are born with genetic disorders, open spines, and other birth defects. Subsequently, little babies die. God watches from above. Were they wicked? 6 million Jews (God's chosen people) died in the WWII, most were slaughtered in the concentration camps run by the Christians ("God mit uns" guys). Were they wicked? On Saturday, Nov 1, 1755 (Feast of All Saints Day) at 9:40 am in Lisbone, Portugal, when all city was in church, God decided to send an earthquake and level the city. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1755_Lisbon_earthquakeWere ALL these believers wicked? Just don't get me started on how wise God is. He is a fucking lunatic to "design" this world. There is no fucking way this universe was designed by anyone with an IQ higher than 0. The whole thing is trial and error. All done by itself with lots of time. |
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Never shooting someone to death is never something that keeps a person out of Hell. Shooting a person to death is never something that sends a person to Hell. There is only one thing that keeps a person out of Hell. Lacking that one thing is the only reason why people go to Hell. What is that one thing? It is believing in Jesus salvation. Shooting someone, or voluntary sinning in other ways, are all things that wear on Jesus salvation faith. Enough voluntary sinning by a person of faith, may destroy that faith in him. But it is the faith in Jesus salvation, or lack of it, that determines a person's Heaven/Hell final position. Well then god is an absolute idiot. How can your brain actually write that and be ok with it? I can kill as many people as I want as long as I accept jesus salvation? Of course I would accept jesus salvation, knowing I'm going to hell if not or jail, why would a murderer not repent? It seems his best choice. God is an idiot. Seems like you can't read very well. Voluntarily doing evil wears on Jesus salvation faith. In other words, if you truly understand and have Jesus salvation faith, you will stop sinning. At least you will reduce your voluntary sinning to an absolute minimum. In other words, voluntary sinning and Jesus salvation faith are mutually exclusive... after a time. So, we see again, that you are attempting to cast doubt into the hearts of those who are saved. Why do you do this? You are simply a child of the devil. No animosity against you. Simply pointing out a fact. But you can change if you want... Bible clearly states that anyone can repent, therefore someone who killed 10.000 people can still go to heaven, taking away the freedom of 10.000 people means nothing to god as long as you repent, which is insane. God of the Bible is a psychopath who recommends genocide, murder, rape, slavery etc. It is no surprise he would welcome other psychopaths in heaven. God killed a lot more than 10,000 innocent people in the time it took me to write posts in this thread. |
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As you can see, the earth is not flat, but very well-rounded. qed  I did not know I liked Iceland and Greenland so much. LOL |
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Again we see that mitochondrial DNA shows that people came from one man/woman combination 100,000 to 200,000 years ago. Animals show the same.
Did a mysterious extinction event precede Adam and Eve?In one of the most provocative and misunderstood studies of the year, scientists in the U.S. and Switzerland have made an astonishing discovery: All humans alive today are the offspring of a common father and mother – an Adam and Eve – who walked the planet 100,000 to 200,000 years ago, which by evolutionary standards is like yesterday. Moreover, the same is true of nine out of every 10 animal species, meaning that nearly all of Earth’s creatures living today sprang into being recently from some seminal, Big Bang-like event.
Mark Stoeckle at Rockefeller University and David Thaler at the University of Basel reached this striking conclusion after analyzing the DNA “bar codes” of five million animals from 100,000 different species. The bar codes are snippets of DNA that reside outside the nuclei of living cells – so-called mitochondrial DNA, which mothers pass down from generation to generation.
With each reproduction, errors creep into the bar code, as they do when you repeatedly photocopy a document. By measuring the accumulated errors – the blurriness or “diversity” among the bar codes – scientists are able to infer the passage of time.
That’s how Stoeckle and Thaler concluded that ninety percent of all animal species alive today come from parents that all began giving birth at roughly the same time, less than a quarter-million years ago. “This conclusion is very surprising,” Thaler avers, “and I fought against it as hard as I could.” I thought your God implied that Earth is less than 10,000 years old. He flooded the world to kill all fauna and flora, except the animals that were eating each other in a cesspool on the Noak's ark to restart humanity from one big incest party. LOL. Does your God suffer from an Alzheimer's disease? Is it possible that the facts are actually getting through to you? Why do you think things about God like those? Oh, of course. You have your own religion. Haven't you read the Bible? God didn't imply that the earth is less than 10,000 years old. He said it, albeit not directly. Before the creation of light, time and days were not set in place so that years can be understood as years. Since the first day, the Bible shows us there has been less than 7,000 years. You suffer from spiritual blindness. 100,000 > 7,000 No issues? Not one? Again, you can't seem to think beyond your nose, or so, right? Just because I post an article doesn't mean that I am acknowledging it to be 100% factually true. The scientists in the article are simply included the multi-billion-year standard universe age in their findings. Their idea wasn't to refute the standard age. Their idea was to refute the man/animal, standard, evolution times. In the article one of the scientists said he fought his own findings with all his strength, but couldn't find any way around what he had discovered. In other words, standard evolution doesn't know what it is talking about. And further scientific investigation is proving it. Ultimately, when science investigates far enough, they will find that the universe is less than 7,000 years old. And that the physics mixture that is beyond (before?) the first day, can't be understood by the organized physics that we have today. In fact, that is the big reason why honest scientists think that the universe is billions of years old... the unsettled physics mix before the first day. No issues at all. Just a lot of assumptions on your part, and on the parts of many people like you... like the assumption that just because things are happening the way they are today, that they always happened that way. I think the term you are looking for is cognitive dissonance. |
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