All-right mr hacker. If you are reading this. I provide escrow for the community. I have a very strong rep. I would be more than happy to escrow the return of these funds. If you send all of the bitcoins to my escrow address 1JrRTBauRZoeSPeyokCh76ZxikzppUBhhA I will have successfully recovered the coins and so will be entitled to 500 bitcoins. I will send 250 of them to you and keep 250 for myself. Check my rep thread in the signature. I can make this all go away. Think about it.
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The devs have themselves to blame for this. There have been several people who volunteered to build a modern user friendly and highly polished website and have been refused in this thread. With the devs saying "we don't need help, we are almost done with a new website...". Yet weeks go by and nothing happens. So I think taking responsibility for over promising or under delivering, which ever it is, would go a long way to dispelling the "dev's can't deliver" observations. To your second point: why would a competent core team, skilled and knowledgeable in C / C++, low-level networking, mathematics, and cryptography ever be capable of being excellent web developers? You seem to conflate the two.
I think it would be tough to argue that we're anywhere close to the level of Mark Karpeles or pirateat40 or, say, the developers of a cryptocurrency with an 82% premine.
Why would someone need permission from the devs to build a website? Anyone can build any wensite they want about anything they want any time they want.
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Perhaps another approach:
Consider offering amnesty and a promise to call off the search in exchange for the safe return of your funds while at the same time increasing the bounty to the full 1100 and something bitcoins that were stolen should he fail to comply with the aforementioned.
That really will bring the bad guys out of the woodwork.....the hacker may also want to think about how the advance of technology is going to make locating assholes like him easier over the next few years. He may be able to hide today, but in a year or 2, will he still be able to? He can't cash out to a bank account and he cant buy anything useful with the BTC without leaving clues to his irl identity, so all he has is a pile of semi-useless BTC and a massive manhunt on his ass. The current 500 BTC bounty is very motivating and provides more than enough cash to finance some very effective action, no matter where in the world the thief might be. Klee just has to keep up the pressure and wait for the mistake. Hope the thieving dipshit is having fun right now.......because it isn't going to last. What do you think? Just one knee cap or both?
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Perhaps another approach:
Consider offering a full pardon and a promise to call off the search in exchange for the safe return of your funds while at the same time increasing the bounty to the full 1100 and something bitcoins should he fail to comply with the aforementioned.
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Europe is in a much worse condition than the USA due to its ridiculously high levels of socialism
I am of a pragmatic bent. Rather than blame ideology I prefer to observe mechanics. I think you, AnonyMint, often miss opportunities to usefully educate because you over-use polarizing category language, to which most minds are hardened. I am sure that Deng "Little Pheonix" would back me, in that it doesn' t matter whether the debt-backed fiat-slavery regime and socialization of losses are imposed by a dictatorship of the proletariat or by the regulatory capture of crony capitalists, if the outcomes are similar. The whole planet is subject to common driving forces these days, due to increased interlinking bandwidth on all levels of organization, from material goods to physical/ chemical energy, to financial flows, to informative signals, to emotive zeitgeist -- even genetic transmission and familial ties are global now. This results in a remarkable synchronization. North American, European, East Asian and even Australian economies and societies share similar liabilities of energy-draining rentiers, compliant brainwashed and transfer payment co-opted masses, captive rigidly ossifying regulatory regimes, and exponential debt explosion. Japan and China face the same end-game now. Japan is likely to be the first to feel the brunt, and China may be the last. The lesser rigidity and inertia of smaller, more isolated, and less developed polities will make them relative havens. I think of Africa, Southeast Asia, and South America here - but even there the implosion of Kissinger's dollar system will make itself unpleasantly felt. I consider Chile a pretty good bet, among the nation-states. I have enjoyed reading AnonyMint's posts, but you hit the nail on the head with my bolded comment. That is the problem I have with his posts (and I'm not saying this in an attacking way.) but when we break a complicated thing called life into just a few groups, we are missing the picture. There is still a lot of information and truth in his posts, so I take a J. Krishnamurti approach of "seeing the truth in the false", so to speak. Further, polarized thinking makes us rather predictable, non-creative, non-free thinking, followers, easy to direct/control and on and on. I mean it takes away the dynamic nature of being a human BEING. It makes us into the very dichotomies of those that create them. (A bit hard for me to English this.) It is like culture, religion, tradition, "education", language, etc. Use all of what we are... Appreciate your posts on XMR, Its about sharing Sometimes ridged black and whites are accurate. Libertarians particularly are often accused of polarized thinking however almost all human interactions can be neatly categorized into the ones where one party is either bonking, or threatening to bonk the other party over the head and ones were neither are doing this. This is very black and white thinking and often a very useful line of thought. Of course this isnt a rebuttal to what you are saying because you didnt claim anything to the contrary of what i just said, i just thought it was an interesting point.
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With rare exception, every state on the planet grows larger, more tyranical, more confiscatory, and more dangerous with each passing year.
Except known history does not bear this out. Pretty much all ancient societies were socialist as Igor Shafaravich's research bears out in his book The Socialist Phenomenon.. More recently we have seen various experiments against this trend Yea you know i may be unfairly looking at the world through the lens of my own perspective. My government (that is to say the government that rules over me not the government that i own ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ) started out small and has grown out of control over the last 200 years. However most other governments were much more tyrannical 200 years ago than they are today. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) haha ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) YOu know in my work I am constantly looking and studying how the world could go wrong, mainly economically. But when i look at the big picture things are getting better. Oh yea im super optimistic. Even though my government grows larger and larger every year, innovation still outpaces the damage they do. The human experience gets happier, healthier, wealthier, and richer every year, in spite of the government. Its like a leach that grows larger every year in absolute terms, but smaller every year relative to the host. So excited about the future ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) .
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With rare exception, every state on the planet grows larger, more tyranical, more confiscatory, and more dangerous with each passing year.
Except known history does not bear this out. Pretty much all ancient societies were socialist as Igor Shafaravich's research bears out in his book The Socialist Phenomenon.. More recently we have seen various experiments against this trend Yea you know i may be unfairly looking at the world through the lens of my own perspective. My government (that is to say the government that rules over me not the government that i own ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ) started out small and has grown out of control over the last 200 years. However most other governments were much more tyrannical 200 years ago than they are today. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Can someone explain to me what this comment means. Attempted a BTC tag. You owe me $2 so far ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Are we sure the btc isn't in some tumbler by now?
Yes we know exactly where they are, see my previous posts. @Wulfcastle, but why would the thief amass all of the stolen btc in the same address? It would be that much easier to connect him to other events and hoard some more evidence. Maybe the address belongs to a mixing service?
The hacker is the same guy who stole the funds from Silk Road. The address he sent some BTC too is the same address that over 5,000 BTC stolen from the Silk Road hack was sent to. He could be either
1) The guy who stole the original Silk Road's funds and the proposed Silk Road 2's Funds
2) One of the owners of SK who stole their own users funds and make it seem as if a hacker took them http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/02/20/here-is-the-stolen-silk-road-wallet/ Could be someone relatively "close" to Klee, an owner of Silk Road 2(defcoin for example), or the hacker who stole from Silk Road the 5K BTC may be unrelated to this hacker. He just donated some of my tag BTC and a small bit of the stolen BTC to that address, maybe to try to throw us off. It is only interesting that he donated my tag BTC there. 0.00112233 + 0.00011122 from me, 0.0006 from klee Why does the hacker have access to the address to your signature btc address? I take it you got hacked at some point in the past? Do you have any links to the event? Was it talked about on bitcointalk?
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The boogeyman is not likely to kill us any time soon.
Maybe sooner than you think. We would do well to act quickly. I may disagree with anonymint on some points, but i think we would agree on this one. I do agree that there are fundamental improvements we can make over a (relatively) short time frame. It is important to note that I am in South Africa, and much of the core team are in Europe and some in Canada - and that's just the core team, all others heavily involved notwithstanding. We're not completely out of reach of an adversary with global reach, but it is unlikely that they can touch all of us at the same time at this early juncture, which means there is *some* time to play with when solving this extremely hard to solve (and practically unlikely) threat. With rare exception, every state on the planet grows larger, more tyranical, more confiscatory, and more dangerous with each passing year. I get that they aren’t a huge threat to people like yourselves right now. The point is just that if this trend continues, and there is no clear reason to expect that it wont, than they will become a threat to everyone at some point in the future. Whether something changes this trend or how far away this is i don’t know. What i do know is that if this trend doesn’t reverse, than everyone will be in danger at some point in the future and i dont think it behoves us to operate under the assumption that this threat is far off in the future.
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but Bitcoin is, in fact, anonymous, because there is no identifying information associated with it.
But if you pay me , then I know your address (or one of them), so doesn't that mean you are not anonymous to me? and if that information gets leaked, from one single person you interact with, than all of your transaction history becomes discoverable. sure there is always an element of plausible deniablity, but tyrants dont give a crap about plausible deniability.
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words n stuff
Dude. If you have a solution to blockchain scalability what on earth are you doing here arguing with us. Please go code out your solution. Please stop wasting your time on us. We aren’t worth it.
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The boogeyman is not likely to kill us any time soon.
Maybe sooner than you think. We would do well to act quickly. I may disagree with anonymint on some points, but i think we would agree on this one.
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Monero might turn out to be the equivalent of Bitcoin, but for those who want private transactions like private companies(dell etc), and ordinary people who want privacy.
Lets be honest here, its not going to scale well enough for that. Its going to be for people who want to buy drugs on the internet and people who want to hide from the irs ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) In its present form it won't really scale much better or worse than bitcoin. The constant factor of increased size won't really matter. That all blockchain based coins have scaling issues is a better argument. Well yes the argument has a wider context. I dont think there is anything wrong with using it in a narrow context simply because it has a larger context though ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) . AnonyMint says he can solve the scalability problem with block-chains though, so yea, problem solved ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .
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Monero might turn out to be the equivalent of Bitcoin, but for those who want private transactions like private companies(dell etc), and ordinary people who want privacy.
Lets be honest here, its not going to scale well enough for that. Its going to be for people who want to buy drugs on the internet and people who want to hide from the irs ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I think my 1 block chain per city and a blockchain to facilitate trades between city currencies answers the scalability problem atleast well enough.
There are numerous problems with that, but I don't time to go off on that technical tangent right now. Apologies I know that isn't really fair, but sorry I must choose to be unfair with my time allocation at the moment. Ultimately no blockchains scale well. Its just a product of their decentralized nature.
As an expert programmer I know to be very wary of over generalizing. Having studied some of the details of the solutions (e.g. see the mini-block chain posts and even the posts about orphan rate vs. block period I've made), I believe you are mistaken. But I can't concretely prove you are (yet). But yes you are right i didn't address any criticisms you may have with i2p. How i would argue against that is to say that while you may be right, and even if i accept arguendo that you are, masking the ip address origin of a transaction is an entirely distinct problem and one with a much larger scope.
Obfuscating the IP address for all internet activities has a different set of technical parameters than obfuscating it for interacting with the crypto-currency network. For example, Tor and I2P require low-latency (which makes them susceptible to timing analysis), but crypto-currencies don't. I told them that in August 2013 and still nobody has acted. As a person who knows about the Dunning Kruger Effect I tend to be wary of people who tell me they are experts. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) With that said i understand that one must budget his time. If you actually can make truely scalable blockchains than for christ sake please dont waste your time on me responding to my comments. I have a reasonable objective assessment of my own value and i am not valuable enough to be worth consuming the time of someone who knows how to solve that problem. Please just go solve it now. Before you get hit by a bus or something.
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It can work for 99% of people, if those people just use it as a form of savings account, a tax haven in the cloud if you will. Obviously not if they are trying to use it for all of their expenditures. But no blockchain will ever scale to that point. Certainly bitcoin will never be able to be used by average joe for day to day transactions. Atleast not in a reasonably decentralized form.
the point is that monero is perfect for "survive the coming global police state" Large amounts in and large amounts in and large amounts out. Put 10,000 dollars in, and when ever you need some cash, withdraw atleast 1000 of it at a time.
You are conflating two orthogonal issues: 1. Whether Monero's ring signatures can scale. 2. Whether the I2P+ring is secure against the global police state. Even if you are correct that limited transactions would allow #1 to scale, it doesn't diminish the fact that #2 is not secure against the global police state. Personally I want an anonymous coin that I can also transact in, not just a saving account. Because without transactions, the coin won't survive or have network effects value. Again see the mathematical analysis of valuations that we did. I think my 1 block chain per city and a blockchain to facilitate trades between city currencies answers the scalability problem atleast well enough. Ultimately no blockchains scale well. Its just a product of their decentralized nature. But yes you are right i didn't address any criticisms you may have with i2p. How i would argue against that is to say that while you may be right, and even if i accept arguendo that you are, masking the ip address origin of a transaction is an entirely distinct problem and one with a much larger scope. It is not specifically a problem of how do you hide the source of transactions that are broadcast, its how do you avoid revealing the source of any information that is being communicated over a large network. I dont think it is the responsibility of cryptocurrency developers to solve this problem. I dont think its reasonable to expect cryptocurrency developers to also tackle this problem. If they did than that would be awesome, and it would have much wider reaching implications than just cryptocurrency.
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I mean, you are the same guy who said Bitcoin is a ponzi sheme...
Reading through your posts, i see a lot of flaming...
I am also the guy who correctly predicted BTC to drop to $350 and predicted the price rise to slow down due to a mathematical analysis. Theres simply nothing better than TOR or I2P we have, absolutely nothing, if you can create a better solution...
Correct there is nothing better at the moment for obfuscating the IP address. Please understand that analysis is orthogonal from inventing new solutions. I am providing analysis. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Dude..Even bitcoin is not immune to the NSA. thats too far fetched now imo....NSA and Quantam Compute immunity that so many people want, comes with time, implementing I2P is still a great start for any coin, NSA immunity and such can come after..... May be too late to wait to add real protection that I2P and Tor don't provide. ETA for global sovereign debt collapse starts Oct. 2015. P.S. note I edited my post to change "useless" to "not sufficient". Oh, I think that I2P+Ring Sigs would offer be more than the perfect anonymous combo for 99.99% of people. And of course, any NSA proof anonymity/what you suggested, should be done, but IMO, after the I2P is already done. Besides the analysis that ring signatures (at least in the way they are employed in Monero and CryptoNote) are not scalable and thus can't target a large ("99%" of) population, they are not going to provide anonymity for those who want to protect their wealth from the coming global confiscation by the bankrupted western society. Yes they can provide anonymity against hackers who don't have a backdoor on all traffic passing over the internet, but that is not the point at all for me as to why I wanted an anonymous coin. The entire point all along for me has been how to survive the coming global police state. It can work for 99% of people, if those people just use it as a form of savings account, a tax haven in the cloud if you will. Obviously not if they are trying to use it for all of their expenditures. But no blockchain will ever scale to that point. Certainly bitcoin will never be able to be used by average joe for day to day transactions. Atleast not in a reasonably decentralized form. the point is that monero is perfect for "survive the coming global police state" Large amounts in and large amounts in and large amounts out. Put 10,000 dollars in, and when ever you need some cash, withdraw atleast 1000 of it at a time. People who use swiss bank accounts right now arnt using them for every day transactions, they put large sums in, and take large sums out. *edit* also you can have 1 cryptonote currency for each city, and then one for trading between them. a local currency that you can do smaller trades in and a global currency for moving back and forth between the local ones
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Hey I may have found a way that I can actually help around here if you guys do a kickstarter. I could escrow the btc and xmr portion of the crowdfunding campaign. Since I am so heavily invested in xmr at this point, that will be all of the incentive i need, so i will happily provide this service for free.
See my rep thread in signature.
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