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1901  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 29, 2015, 08:43:58 PM
After a long phase of waiting, and many stressful months using the command-line Monero core binaries, finally there comes a solution! In the past few weeks, I've been working on rewriting the whole application in the Eto.Forms framework in order to support multiple platforms, including Windows, Linux, and Mac. Today, I'm proud to announce the release of



(Thanks for the logo, fluffypony! Wink)

While MoneroX has basically no graphical changes compared to Monero Client .NET, its code has been rewritten from scratch. Thus, the performance and reliablity has also increased during this process. The localization files could also have been kept, however, there are still a few features missing when compared to the old WPF project (backup manager, instant input validation, progress bar text). Transactions are now displayed in groups, so it should be significantly easier to account your holdings.

The new releases can be downloaded from GitHub. Hopefully, I'll be able to figure out how to compile MoneroX for Mac soon.

Please post your toughts, feedbacks, bug reports, or feature requests, as every single opinion counts in my opinion. Smiley
If you like this project, please donate to one of the addresses which can be found in my signature.

So are the devs moving over to using your code? I mean it would be a shame for you to have rewritten all of the code to be cross platform and then are forced to implement all of their improvements in parallel for all eternity.
1902  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XMR vs DRK on: March 29, 2015, 08:06:42 PM
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sure, it was a priority. then no one built it. now its not a priority. and there is 'third party' solutions available. which is fine obviously.

MyMonero is from fluffypony and even a blind idiot like you should have noticed that it's not really third party then?


Personally I wouldn't use anything from a dev who posts about XMR 'not being about the money' then asks for donations to speed up.

This is completely consistent. Just because a dev has to put food on his families table doesnt mean his main motivating factor behind working on this project is to become wealthy. You could say well obviously it is a factor, but i think that would be interpreting him overly literally.
1903  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends[Updates&Discussion] on: March 29, 2015, 08:01:09 PM
So since i own a stake in this thing i guess i may as well understand how the heck it works. Its proof of stake i assume. Does it use deterministic random like nxt or coin age like ppc or something else?

its not pos.. Smiley

http://cointelegraph.com/news/113698/proof-of-importance-nem-is-going-to-add-reputations-to-the-blockchain

uses coin age afaik as it takes about 30 days for all your  XEM to vest after its been sent.. not sure about the tech stuff

Well I'm pretty skeptical that their sybil mitigation techniques will completely eliminate all sybil attack vectors. They may help to minimize the effectiveness of sybil attack vectors but probably not more than that. Does anyone have any links to more technical specifics behind the consensus algorithm? That article was too vague.
1904  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Thread - Redemption ends[Updates&Discussion] on: March 29, 2015, 07:27:32 PM
So since i own a stake in this thing i guess i may as well understand how the heck it works. Its proof of stake i assume. Does it use deterministic random like nxt or coin age like ppc or something else?
1905  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 29, 2015, 07:12:48 PM
[...]

I can confirm this. Idk what a computer expert is, but I'm more capable than 98% of people atleast. Back when i had to compile it myself that was a huge pain. I'm so glad i could just grab some binaries this time. It was easier with binaries but still a pain. It needed so many dependencies. I wasnt about to sit there and install them all manually one at a time so i went looking for a solution and learned about aptitude. It was a great find, im glad to know about aptitude now. But yea i mean that was a process and involved some research and some time, i had to search around to find something like aptitude then i had to spend a little bit of time with it learning how it worked. Its a very real barrier that not everyone can overcome.

Out of curiosity, what OS do you use? Because typically you'd always use a packet manager (like aptitude), and if you don't it's consciously and on purpose (slackware for instance).


Linux mint. I was just using the standard package manager aptget. It didn't install dependencies automatically.

Ok. Probably a wrong config somewhere, or you got to fiddle with packages and what actually solved your issues isn't exactly what you thought, because aptitude is just a front-end for APT (the software that does apt-get and co).

Maybe. There was a install with all dependencies option with aptitude. I didnt see an option like that with aptget but just because i didn't see it doesn't mean it wasn't there.
1906  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 29, 2015, 07:05:27 PM
[...]

I can confirm this. Idk what a computer expert is, but I'm more capable than 98% of people atleast. Back when i had to compile it myself that was a huge pain. I'm so glad i could just grab some binaries this time. It was easier with binaries but still a pain. It needed so many dependencies. I wasnt about to sit there and install them all manually one at a time so i went looking for a solution and learned about aptitude. It was a great find, im glad to know about aptitude now. But yea i mean that was a process and involved some research and some time, i had to search around to find something like aptitude then i had to spend a little bit of time with it learning how it worked. Its a very real barrier that not everyone can overcome.

Out of curiosity, what OS do you use? Because typically you'd always use a packet manager (like aptitude), and if you don't it's consciously and on purpose (slackware for instance).


Linux mint. I was just using the standard package manager aptget. It didn't install dependencies automatically.
1907  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 29, 2015, 06:36:08 PM

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It is not a Bitcoin clone, and the wallet is only officially available via command line – no graphical user interface is available for this piece of technology yet.


lol, why do they have to mention it doesn't have a GUI? How come this is always so important.
Shouldn't the privacy features be more important in a article such as this one?


Its comical with the GUI wallet.  That's all anyone ever picks on.

I was a computer expert a few years back and honestly had problems installing the wallet(s) on my Mac. I did finally get it installed but didn't have faith in the installation due to so many problems I experienced. (I got the blockchain downloaded no problem.) I was only able to run the wallet by (excuse my lack of terms here) double clicking an exe file, not from an actual installation. (Something about my Mac environment stopped me from being able to do a true install and it was in the instructions but I couldn't get past it.) So, I didn't want to chance using it. I moved half my XMR's from Poloniex to Mintpal and the latter are history (and it was a nice chunk for me). Rather, those were history as I got them
returned a few weeks back, as did others. Anyway, Had there been an online wallet or even a wallet less problematic on my Mac, I wouldn't have moved any to Mintpal - but my bad as I didn't research the place. It was literally like within a week or two of the move!

I've mined BTC, run a full node, worked in IT, etc. so I really should have figured out the wallet problem within a few hours, didn't, so gave up. I went beyond a typical user install imo.

Suffice to say, there is a whole world of users out there who want a GUI (nothing command line except for higher functionality) due to ease of use. Knowing I was a computer expert and should have figured it out I can understand how lack of a GUI is really holding people back (at least if they experienced problems on install like me, Windows I hadn't heard of being problematic.)

IAS

I can confirm this. Idk what a computer expert is, but I'm more capable than 98% of people atleast. Back when i had to compile it myself that was a huge pain. I'm so glad i could just grab some binaries this time. It was easier with binaries but still a pain. It needed so many dependencies. I wasnt about to sit there and install them all manually one at a time so i went looking for a solution and learned about aptitude. It was a great find, im glad to know about aptitude now. But yea i mean that was a process and involved some research and some time, i had to search around to find something like aptitude then i had to spend a little bit of time with it learning how it worked. Its a very real barrier that not everyone can overcome.
1908  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XMR vs DRK on: March 29, 2015, 06:26:14 PM
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Again nonsense. Cryptonote/Monero is more fungible than coinjoin/mixing, even Satoshi, the creator(s) of  Decentralized Cryptocurrency, acknowledged a system like what Cryptonote is today, would be "much better, easier, more convenient" than Bitcoin, which Dash is forked from. You've sprouted a lot of inaccurate statements recently, from the lie over the volume of XMR and DASH, to thinking bitmonerod was a wallet, then to saying that cryptocurrencies don't really use cryptography...Seriously?

genuine question:

you say 'more fungible' - how does one define the amount of fungibility? What defines the scale here?

Aristotle's definitions of money:
1.) It must be durable. Money must stand the test of time and the elements. It must not fade, corrode, or change through time.

2.) It must be portable. Money hold a high amount of 'worth' relative to its weight and size.

3.) It must be divisible. Money should be relatively easy to separate and re-combine without affecting its fundamental characteristics. An extension of this idea is that the item should be 'fungible'. Dictionary.com describes fungible as:

"(esp. of goods) being of such nature or kind as to be freely exchangeable or replaceable, in whole or in part, for another of like nature or kind."


4.) It must have intrinsic value. This value of money should be independent of any other object and contained in the money itself.

In essence, the less you can differentiate one coin from another, the more fungible.

ergo there are no degrees of fungibility. it's a boolean concept. so asking if something is 'more fungible' is nonsensical.

This is a black and white fallacy. Of course there are degrees of fungibility. For example suppose you are facing the problems bitcoin is facing now with btc-e. You could have an alternative crypto where the cost of discovering whether coins are stolen is 1 dollar, or 10, or 100, or 1000 or a million. Or any number you might imagine inbetween any of those numbers. For different given costs we might imagine that fungibility concerns arise more or less often. Even gold is not perfectly fungible, you can do an analysis of the atoms and make determinations about what parts of the world it was sourced from, maybe some could be associated with criminality, like maybe someone wouldnt want gold that came out of a rain forest because strip mining takes place there. Sure you could mix a ton of different gold from different places togather, but maybe someone would only be interested in gold that had no content from that region what so ever. Dollar bills can be marked in subtle ways. For example a bank might make tiny changes to some of their dollars and keep them in permanent storage and then if a robber takes the bills they could be traced. So many possible scenarios can be imagined.

The truth is no good will ever be perfectly fungible, ever.
1909  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XMR vs DRK on: March 29, 2015, 02:43:21 PM
Would be interesting to be a fly on the wall when the NSA researchers are talking about this thread in their weekly meeting.

Lol yea right. Monero might be on the radar of someone in the deep state. But they are not going to be talking about this thread in a meeting. Thats silly.
1910  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XMR vs DRK on: March 29, 2015, 02:30:21 AM
this should be a warning to all XMR investors: http://web.archive.org/web/20141106091836/http://www.cryptobang.com/2014/10/05/what-nsa-created-cryptonote-for/

NSA being well known for building complex vulnerabilities into systems that can then be exploited to provide backdoors...if the designer of your platform has these intentions there is no way to know what all the vulnerabilities can be.  Look at the recent Heartbleed 'bug' that went on for at least 2 years with NSA using it...http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-04-11/nsa-said-to-have-used-heartbleed-bug-exposing-consumers

No one in the market is going to touch a coin that is built on code that had NSA design involvement, especially people seeking anonymity.

Coupled with the fact core devs 'smooth' and 'fluffy' spout about honesty and integrity then spend a large amount of time trolling the competition, and asking for donations to 'speed up', (NTM all volume through Poloniex...) there are a lot of red flags IMO.

...




One thing that helps to make this unlikely, is that monero is forked from a scam. If the nsa was behind it than the scam would have been far more clever than the scam that was bytecoin. I.E. the scam would have been things like what you are talking about, clever backdoors and what not. And they wouldnt have risked hurting the adoption of a crypto that had subtle back doors engineered into it by creating a fake blockchain and spoofing dates on pdf's and what not.

You could say well yea but they are just playing chess on another level and anticipated that people would make the argument i just made, but thats really really getting into tin foil hat territory. Even for people like us who tend to be relatively inclined to believe in conspiracies.
1911  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 28, 2015, 11:12:39 PM
I have a strange issue that occurred while sending out xmr from mymonero to poloniex the other day, which has left me wondering where several thousand of my xmr have disappeared to....

The amount sent from mymonero does not correspond to the amount reported by moneroblocks when searching with the payment ID, which in turn does not correspond to the amount received by poloniex. From mymonero to poloniex there is a discrepancy of -4000 xmr...


Where do I start to figure out what is going on here?

This is normal. The thing is your wallet created change addresses and sent back change, but that change hasnt confirmed yet. So you are seeing the monero that was stored on keys that didnt need to be used as inputs to the transaction and not seeing the monero that needed to be used as inputs but was in excess of the amount delivered. Atleast that is unless this happened a while ago and you still havnt seen the balance update, in which case, what the gentleman said above.
1912  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 28, 2015, 05:32:51 PM
Hello XMR
* P3RS3US waves a white flag

I come in peace.

Please could you supply me with numbers for tx fees to ring sizes (mixin), for 0,1,2,3, 8 and 16
thank you.

or pls link me to a spreadsheet if u have one. ty

its a trap. hes laying spider webs.
1913  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 28, 2015, 05:26:13 PM
does anyone want the domain moneroforum.org? if not im going to let it expire.

or just keep it and forward it to forum.getmonero.org

......

Sure and thats what it has been for a long time now. But i just doubt its getting enough hits from people who are looking for forum.getmonero.org in order to justify paying to renew it. If someone else feels differently they can have it Smiley
1914  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 28, 2015, 05:19:04 PM
does anyone want the domain moneroforum.org? if not im going to let it expire.
1915  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 28, 2015, 04:42:05 PM
Yowsers. Look at this ridiculous transaction. http://moneroblocks.eu/tx/a292f8068a525a403700e8d4c76dc6496136790e01b442e55047e46a167a8784

Is it possible to have wallets do more intelligent transaction crafting in-order to avoid accumulating a billion random small denomination inputs?

I mean all these little inputs could be useful if this person wasnt scraping the bottom of the barrel so to speak, which im sure he is. I suppose this is an example of why its a pretty good idea to avoid moving all of your coins between wallets. Just make one wallet and stick with it for the long term and avoid scraping the bottom if possible.

Probably a miner. The only way to avoid that (for them) is to set a much higher minimum payout, like 5 or 10 XMR.

understood
1916  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: March 28, 2015, 04:37:48 PM
Yowsers. Look at this ridiculous transaction. http://moneroblocks.eu/tx/a292f8068a525a403700e8d4c76dc6496136790e01b442e55047e46a167a8784

Is it possible to have wallets do more intelligent transaction crafting in-order to avoid accumulating a billion random small denomination inputs?

I mean all these little inputs could be useful if this person wasnt scraping the bottom of the barrel so to speak, which im sure he is. I suppose this is an example of why its a pretty good idea to avoid moving all of your coins between wallets. Just make one wallet and stick with it for the long term and avoid scraping the bottom if possible.
1917  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: March 28, 2015, 04:21:34 PM
Does anyone have any idea why my transaction with 469 confirmations http://www.mynxt.info/transaction/6572373837824290066 is showing up as an unconfirmed balance in the destination address here http://www.mynxt.info/account/1571292249217699638?
1918  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 28, 2015, 05:05:44 AM
Market depth on the buy side is still much larger than the ask side. 360BTC to 0.002, 160 BTC to reach 0.004 . We have had pretty good steady increase in price and without any major events I don't see this trend stopping anytime soon.

no me either. im usually a value oriented investor but i couldn't help but try to play this trend. maybe it will help to put me back in my place.
1919  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XMR vs DRK on: March 28, 2015, 04:55:03 AM
what a stupid troll, bitmonerod is not even the wallet.


 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
1920  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XMR vs DRK on: March 28, 2015, 04:37:02 AM
No money works unless you can demonstrate that you spent it (if you so wish) and to whom.

P.S. What your favourite wallet looks like....



... a piece of garbage (like what it holds)

Expert rebuttal. I suppose the dollar bills in my pocket don't work either then? After all, I can't "demonstrate" their expenditure Smiley

Oh, and I like our modest wallet. Without it folks like yourself would have nothing left to troll us about Wink

EDIT: By the way, that's not even the wallet. Troll harder.

Also monero does provide a means for demonstrating that you spent (if you wish) and to whom...

query getviewkey? am i missing something?
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