They can look at it that way if they like, but that is how things are going to be. It is the nature of consensus algorithms that they are very slow to adapt. It is the big drawback that counterbalances all of the amazing properties that they allow, such as decentralization, fault tolerance, escape from counterparty risk, among many other things. The price, so to speak, of these amazing properties is an inability to adapt and change. While on the other hand technology is constantly advancing with no end in sight. New better ways of doing distributed consensus, opake blockchains, and distributed computation and 1000 things I cant think of will always be developed. The only way to incorporate these new advances without breaking the consensus is to regularly create brand new networks with new ideas about specifically what it is they are all consenting to.

Entrepreneurs will find ways of profiting from insulating consumers from this constantly churning and frothing market. On the other end of the financial contracts these entrepreneurs use to accomplish this will be a class of speculators and investors who specialize in understanding these markets. It will present tremendous opportunity to those capable of capitalizing on it, and tremendous risk and loss to those not.

Honestly they can think its a toy if they like, because what we are doing here is going to make them largely irrelevant. The sorts of people who think its a toy will simply not be investors with significant capital in the future. What they think wont even matter in the future we are building.

Climate Alarmists fighting a losing battle: Nearly Half Of Young Americans Are Climate Skeptics

Anthony Watts / April 29, 2015   


New Survey: Nearly Half Of Young Americans Are Climate Skeptics

The Younger They Are, The More Skeptical



In fact, the age group that least agreed with the statement that global warming is a fact and caused by CO2 emissions was that of 18 to 20-year-olds. The assumption that younger US adults are more liberal when it comes to global warming does not hold up; if anything, they are even more skeptical. –Emma Kromm, Harvard Political Review, 29 April 2015



New Survey: Nearly Half Of Young Americans Are Climate Sceptics

From the Harvard Political Review, 29 April 2015 by Emma Kromm (h/t to The GWPF)

At the White House Correspondents Association Dinner last Saturday night, President Obama got angry. With the help of his anger translator, Luther (played by comedian Keegan-Michael Key), the president abandoned his usual reasonable tone to condemn those who deny climate change. “The science is clear,” he began. “Every serious scientist says we need to act. The Pentagon says it’s a national security risk.” As the president continued, it became clear that he no longer needed Luther to reveal his inner anger, and he drew laughs from the crowd after letting loose. “It is crazy! What about our kids? What kind of stupid, shortsighted, irresponsible… ”
While the president’s skit might have been the highlight of the night, do Americans really need this kind of angry reminder that climate change is a problem? Some seem to think we are living in a world where climate change is widely acknowledged as an irrefutable fact. Mary Robinson, the seventh president of Ireland and founder of the Mary Robinson Foundation for Climate Justice, has argued that the generation in power now is the first to fully know about climate change, and the last with the ability to prevent its projected effects. She and others are of the opinion that, at this point, all but a few outliers understand global warming, its causes, and its dire consequences.
New data from the Harvard Public Opinion Project tell a very different story. Only 55 percent of survey participants agreed with the statement,


Even more surprising, these numbers are the same across the board for participants between 18 and 29 years old, with 51-56 percent agreeing that global warming is a fact and is caused by fuel emissions across age groups. In fact, the age group that least agreed with the first statement was that of 18 to 20-year-olds. The assumption that younger adults are more liberal when it comes to global warming does not hold up; if anything, they are even more skeptical.
Consequently, young Americans are often unsupportive of government measures to prevent climate change that might harm the economy. Less than a third of those surveyed agreed with the statement, “Government should do more to curb climate change, even at the expense of economic growth,” and only 12 percent strongly agreed with it. Again, the youngest survey respondents were more conservative than any other age group, with only 28 percent of 18 to 20-year-olds in agreement and eight percent in strong agreement with that statement. In contrast, other age groups varied between 30 percent and 34 percent in agreement and 11 percent to 14 percent in strong agreement. Not only are the newest voters less convinced of climate change as a reality; they are also less likely to support government funding of climate change solutions.

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Additional Resources:
Harvard University Institute Of Politics Executive Summary Survey of Young Americans’ Attitudes Toward Politics and Public Service 27th Edition

the quiet before the storm?

woah. this thread just randomly died. never seen it quiet so long.

that volume

i like it. thanks for sharing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUAJ8KLGqis

Than you sir are in a good place. A place I can only dream of. Don't give that away for a few measly dollars profit.

0.0022 is high?

There are no capitalist nations on earth. Please don't sully the good name of capitalism by conflating it with fascism. And yes, fascism is in bad shape, but while fascist nations may be on the verge of collapse, the socialist ones are in full on collapse as we speak. They have riots and military in the streets. So personally i wouldnt want either, but if you are really going to compare the two, both are heading towards the same place, but isnt it telling that the socialist countries arrived at that shared destination first? If forced to make that shitty choice, i would still take fascism any day over socialism. It's decidedly less of a failure.

someone should show up to his yacht and just start settling in. maybe make a sandwich. then when johnny shows up just be like, "but what about that tweet".

Translation: Expand the police state. Expand the surveillance state. Higher taxes and more inflation. Eliminate property rights.

Dont you love that "sharing prosparity". What he really means is that you should "share" more of your prosperity with him.

was not expecting to see green shoots when clicking on my bookmark to bitcoin wisdom this morning. thats a pleasant surprise.

I suspect that they will. Thats part of the reason why I own monero

Its not just about a simple solution existing if it takes as much effort to learn about it as it does to just figure out how to use the command line . People want to just be able to go to mymonero.com click download and click run on the file that downloaded and then have a simple intuitive and familiar gui magically appear right in front of their face. Of course you cant guarantee it but ideally you want there to atleast be a reasonable chance that monero gets up and running on their machine, in gui format, without hogging ram, if they navigate to the website and then proceed to roll their face on the keyboard.

I recently had a run in with bitshares while doing a job for someone. It was a god damned mess. But they got what i was talking about above exactly right. I downloaded the file. I didnt need to extract anything it just downloaded directly as an exe. I didn't need to install anything. Just double click the file that downloaded from bitshares.org and bam bitshares appears up and running on my screen. That was impressive.

The only thing that is going to stop that is a production ready database implementation and a simple to install and run official gui. Or credible information pertaining to the progress in these areas which speculators can use to price in a future release production ready database implementation and a simple to install and run official gui.

Sorry you are right. It is largely my fault. I have an off topic thread for the monero community somewhere.

Well I found it... Kind of... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1007593.0 Weird... Wonder where it went and why.

No. This is totally wrong.

If you tried to start your own company who's value proposition was that it had pioneered innovative ways of proving that it was not compromising your security, who do you think would come after you? Dell employees? Or cops? In the absence of the state OF COURSE such a company would come into being. You and me and everyone here and many many many others would pay for that peace of mind. Do you think entrepreneurs are going to pass up the opportunity to make a ton of money off of us?

In your example the corporations are logistical specialists at best. The teeth are still the state. The one who would (literally) club you over the head if you interjected and disrupted this unholy union would be agents of the state, not the agents of microsoft.

But you are completely free to use alternatives to their devices. The state is the only thing that could, at-least in theory, even conceivably be able to enforce the monopoly that would be necessary in order to cause drm bootloader locked devices to negatively impact your life in any serious way.

Dont get me wrong im not saying that apple and microsoft aren't evil. But what harm is an evil dog without teeth? The state is the teeth in the mouth of evil corporations.

holy strawman

I couldn't agree more. You should definitely always follow the states instructions.