I know you guys aren't aiming to be alphabet proof but perhaps one day in the future it could be a goal and it is concerning because we might imagine that some mass surveillance agency might be able to put together a rather comprehensive database of view keys.

In theory, could my anonymity be compromised by too many other people publishing their view keys?

If the one it cloned was a demonstrable scam one does.....

I'm trying to unload some of my sdc at theses highs, and every time i post a sell offer there is this guy with 3000 coins that instantly undercuts me and he never tires. so its pretty obvious that its some sort of computer program. what hes doing is sort of like placing a market order, he knows it will sell at some point, but no matter when it does sell, it will probably be at a slightly higher valuation than if he had placed a market order. pretty cool. i want in. any idea what program he might be using?

what does this have to do with monero? well i would use it to buy and sell monero too of course! hi smooth. completely legit

thanks for that info

This is just my 2 bits. Take it or leave it but im a pretty happy guy over all so maybe it can help.

Perhaps a change in alignment might help. Trying to help people often leads to the opposite of what your good intentions want. Here is an example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM when a mouse population is put into a state of perfect utopia they all die. Thats the extreme end of the spectrum, but doing things for other people leads to the same phenomena to a less extreme degree. It is other peoples job to help themselves, not yours.

Try to help yourself as much as you can without doing anything that is evil in the process. The not doing anything evil is extremely important. Elevating yourself at the expense of other people will not lead to good outcomes unless you are an evil person, and judging by your comment i dont think you are. However it is entirely possible to focus entirely on your own needs and wants without ever doing anything harmful to other people in the process. A good example, but certainly not the only, of this is creating product that you think will sell and selling it for a profit, the person who buys it from you has demonstrated that he values the product more than his money, and you have demonstrated that you value the money more than the product. You are made materially better off, presumably you created the product for the purpose of being made better off, but through your non evil actions he too has been made better off even though that was never your intention.

(it may be wise to create an exception to this rule for people who are completely incapable of providing for themselves, i.e. the mentally or physically ill who have not brought that outcome upon themselves)

anyway last off topic comment from me in this thread, i promise.

Sorry im not sure what this comment has to do with what we were talking about. But either way i just wanted to say that one thing, if you want to make it into a long drawn out discussion we probably should take it elsewhere.

A great number of the greatest advances which have lead to improvements in the lives of the poor have been done in the pursuit of a greater material things for the innovator. In ancient times if you redistributed the wealth from all the worlds kings and aristocrats evenly among the worlds poor it would have fed them for like a week and that would have been the end of it. But people (often) in the pursuit of material possession have created amazing capital goods that have transformed the world. Relatively poor africans have cell phones with access to the internet for crying out loud, and soon even the poorest will, thus equipping them with the tools to take charge of their lives, gain an education, and improve their own situations immeasurably. This is just one example, i'm sure you can come up with 100 more if you try. The people who are building the cell phones and the networks aren't doing it out of altruism, they are doing to for material possessions. This is how capitalism (not to be confused with cronyism) works, and it's a beautiful thing.

I thought everyone on this forum was INTJ but i guess there are a few fellow INTP's

I'm just impressed by everyone who made it past.


That is precisely as far as I was able to make it into that gem.

are there dissidents on 4chan? what section?

Not sure i understand what you are trying to get at. I wasn't suggesting anything of the sort.

The only three projects i have really been involved in is bitcoin, nxt, and monero. I was very active in the nxt community, if you were than you probably recognize me. This is not a fair characterization and not a reasonable dichotomy. Both are really great projects that deliver serious utility and really stand apart from the crowd. Perhaps instead of trying to fight against monero in favor of your pet project, you should own a little of both. I still own a pretty substantial amount of nxt and now i own a pretty substantial amount of monero too.


I whole heatedly agree with the concerns about nxt's initial distribution problem, in fact they understate the problem because many of the bitcoins used to purchase stake could have been the dev sending bitcoins back to himself. But if you understand what nxt accomplished, how revolutionary its consensus mechanism is, you cant help but be enamored with the project despite its glaring flaws.

All the most prolific and trust worthy writers use "u" instead of you. I, for one, am definitely convinced.

sound advise

you have to be careful with vpn's. even if they aren't logging ip's their hosting provider probably is.

man i had a buy order sitting at 0.00301 forever and i decided it wasnt going to happen and went ahead and moved the bitcoin off the exchange to avoid counterparty risk... then like a couple hours later... DOH

Words are important.

terrifying. but also so interesting. so far it isn't impacting ordinary people but will that last? interested to see how this data collection impacts ordinary people in the future. its like doug casy says, its something to this effect, liberty is never something thats going to go away, its just that in the future you will have to purchase it. we just better all manage to somehow become wealthy enough to purchase liberty in the future.