So apparently Bruce was waiting until his "commission" jumped from $3 per BTC to $6 per BTC until he processed my transaction, leaving me with less than I needed for a transaction.....basically effed me over based on his own greed.
Are there any truly legit sources to purchase BTC these days? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BitInstant has a pretty good reputation, and have a lot of options. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83209.0
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So you stirred up a bunch of drama over nothing? I'm starting to think you're just trolling and muddying the waters of real issues on purpose.
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Hi all and sorry for the wait.
I can confirm that as of last night all the funds Zhou promised to retrieve (approx. $100,000 USD and 20,000 BTC) have been returned to Bitcoinica, LP's MtGox account. The receivership and liquidation process is underway and I'll post updates here as things move forward.
Best, Patrick
I thought Zhou promised the return of USD 140,000.
It's good to hear that a substantial amount of funds have been recovered and that this mess can now proceed to receivership and liquidation. It's unfortunate, however, that the perpetrator of the theft is still being shielded from legal consequence.
You are correct that Zhou stated $140,000. My understanding is that the additional $40,000 includes funds frozen (rightly so) at ArumXchange. I would hope that Zhou would cooperate with authorities in apprehending and prosecuting the hacker.
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I apologize. I have deleted my post there, and you can do the same.
Thanks, I went ahead and deleted Stephens since he was offline at the time.
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As far as I know, currently HYIPs end up in the gambling subforum. There is some cross-over between securities and high-yield deposits, and there is a growing database of information related to "credit ratings" for product issuers. One of the additions to that system is business transparency, and I have been considering making a rating a requirement to be listed in the WPW thread to help separate some of the more reliable operators from some less reliable ones.
I'm not quite sure why gene is convinced everything is a scam, and it is pretty obvious that many are not. However, having been effectively labelled a scammer by gene I presume anything I contribute he will dismiss without reason.
Im was wondering what sort of credit rating pirate would get Depends on who's doing it and how much they're getting paid.
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I would agree, but also, there are forums I cannot read as a newbie, that I have been sent from a moderator when I attempted to ask for help from the bitcoin community. Are there many that are locked?
There are no forums that are unreadable by just newbies, nobody can read the trashcan except moderators/admins.
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It's in the OP. Due to a mass of trolling, only established posters are able to post in non-newbie sections. You are considered "established" if you have spent 4 hours online and have made 5 posts. If you have really good posts, you can post a request for preemptive whitelisting in the appropriate topic. Also: - You must have made one post in order to send PMs.- You need 10 posts to put a link in your signature. Note that it may take up to 10 minutes for your PM or posting permissions to be granted.
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Any way to add entire subforums to the watchlist? Could be useful for those who want to watch the press forum, or for mods to watch meta, staff, scam accusations, etc.
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I did earlier. Worth posting again I guess. Thread needs more bears.
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Maybe a renaming instead.
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I created the subforum. Someone else can move the posts.
I saw that, and saw Maged wasn't on so I went ahead and got a good start. I did a lot at once so people will see where they go. Wasn't sure what to do with Micon's thread so I just left it for now, but since it's about those long term offers it should probably be there as well. Please don't take me for being an ass, but shouldn't a thread started to debate whether a thread is actually lending or not be in Meta? Not at all, if I didn't want opinions I wouldn't have asked. If it were talking about just one thread in particular or the forum itself I'd be inclined to agree, it's pretty off topic to lending. Seems to be more general discussion about all investment schemes that offer unusually high returns or are suspicious for other reasons, and I wouldn't want to stifle discussion of that, especially since the concerns seem reasonable enough.
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I created the subforum. Someone else can move the posts.
I saw that, and saw Maged wasn't on so I went ahead and got a good start. I did a lot at once so people will see where they go. Wasn't sure what to do with Micon's thread so I just left it for now, but since it's about those long term offers it should probably be there as well.
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Is him being a mod in the Korean forum really bothering you that much? And is it a personal thing or does it actually have something to do with the forum?
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In the interest of transparency and since you are de facto gatekeepers here, would you each care to describe your individual positions on profiting from (via ads) and facilitating the promotion of manifest frauds?
No forum staff gets paid from forum revenue. Only about 75 BTC has ever been spent from the forum funds. The rest is kept in reserve (mostly in this cold storage address). Are you comfortable accepting responsibility for your roles and will you accept the blame for providing a venue for con-artists and not taking due diligence in protecting bitcoin newcomers? Will you be pleased to explain your current choices, actions, and non-actions once this superstructure of fraud collapses?
Finally, do you believe that your current choices, actions, and non-actions will help or hurt bitcoin in the long-term? Please justify your response.
Allowing potential con-artists to post here is entirely consistent with the forum's policy of free speech. Free discussion and free trade will help Bitcoin more than (temporary) PR gains would. Truth is best determined through discussion and a free market, not through decree by moderators. When BS&T defaults, I will be happy that I: - Allowed individuals to make their own investment choices freely. - Allowed individuals to freely post their thoughts on BS&T, positive or negative. - Posted my own honest thoughts on BS&T. (I'm pretty sure it's a Ponzi scheme.) Agreed, asking us to impose our will on others just because you think they're wrong is a little extreme. People are gonna do what they want to do, the only thing you can do is warn them. If people choose to ignore your warnings, then that is absolutely their right to do so. Stickies should provide information important to lenders/lendees, not advertise the latest get rich quick scheme.
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a scammer tag would be in place here mods/admins ^
Meh, now that he's been outed it's not like he's gonna stick around on this account, not even worth the trouble.
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I never liked the stickies. Using stickies for categorization seems like a misuse of the feature. How about "long-term offers" under "Lending" for this kind of stuff, and no restrictions on post content?
That probably would work better. Would leave three informational stickies, and one could be moved as John said. Would it be intended for the deposit services only or the lending services as well?
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Hi! where I should ask for support on this forum?
I can't reply nor post on almost all threads in the forum.
Thanks.
You were a newbie at the time of posting this, but you should be free of those restrictions now (4 hours, 5 posts).
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