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2541  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Alternative for martingale? on: June 03, 2016, 12:49:55 PM
You could try reverse martingale (this is what I think it's called). Instead of doubling your bet whenever you lose, you double your bet whenever you win. On lose, you'll go back to your base bet.

Let's assume that you've won 8 times in a row and the base bet was 1000 bits.

1000 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 256,000 bits. Your profit grows exponentially. It's not necessary that you stop when you've won 8 times straight, you can stop whenever you want. The more streaks, the more profit you'll get. I used to do this in BustaBit but I usually do it in a lower multiplier so the chances of having a winning streak is more than when the multiplier is at 2x. I don't actually advice this to gambling sites in which you can get a lot of loss. If you don't think the site you're playing in doesn't make you win in streak, then don't do this method.
2542  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how much you lost money in gambling? on: June 03, 2016, 12:35:54 PM
arround 0.05 and im not interesting to gamble again
You are even lucky with that small loss, others here are losing for more than 100BTC and yet they still play in gambling. Good for you mate at least you realize at an early stage and just continue to invest than putting your money in gambling.

Totally agree,
maybe I am one of them, losing around 100BTC but still gambling...lol
so lost 0.05 can make you quit is really worth

Really horace?? You lose around 100 btc? that's nut man if you still continue to gamble, if I were you I will definitely quit gambling.
As a matter of fact, I'm not a gambler anyway, but I know the feeling of losing big amount.

Yes, it is...losing around 100 btc in this few years,
I dunno but just keep coming back,
Decreased the stack now, play what I earn from signature campaign,
Never lucky


And I've lost 99999 BTC last night. Please don't feed the troll. Can you believe someone who had 100BTC is now trying to earn some satoshis out of signature campaign?

If he was able to get 100 BTC, then surely he has some good knowledge at something. He has a really good skill on something. He surely won't do signature campaign after losing that much money. It's really hard to believe someone who was registered early this year in this forum has lost around 100 BTC in the last few years. At least upload a screenshot or just answer these questions: In what site did you lose them? What is your username on that site? Or are you just trying to boost your post count because you want to get paid by YoBit campaign? Roll Eyes
2543  Other / Off-topic / Re: How kids can "earn" Bitcoin ? on: June 03, 2016, 12:30:09 PM
The problem with the kids is if they know already how to make money through online games, it will change their perspective in life, they will become more independent and you cannot control them already. We should only educate the kids in terms of money at the right age as money is evil if you don't know how to handle it.


I hardly think so. Knowing how to make money =/= independence. From the word itself, independence means not being dependent on anybody/anything. Kids will be kids. Even they've become millionaires, kids will still act as they were.

Also, if you think that kids will be independent and will have a different point of view in life if they know how to earn money online, how is it different from knowing how to earn Bitcoin? Roll Eyes Clearly your point has hit all the answers in this thread. All of this is related on how kids will be able to earn bitcoins.

Kids will surely buy kids stuffs when they earn money. No matter where the money came from, they will still buy the things that they want. They're not gonna be investing in a company or buy a property for future profit. They will stay as kids.
2544  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Best signature campaign now a days on: June 03, 2016, 12:17:44 PM
The best signature campaign is for me the bitmixer due to my rank, I also heard good things about the bot-x campaign and I think they are good and have some nice payout rates.
Bitmixer has been kicking participant's left and right without announcing that they have been kicked out of the campaign making it a free promotion for Bitmixer since the participant who got kicked out is still promoting and yet does not know that he is not going to be paid for his effort. That's not a good practice.

Because i see some bitmixer participants posting 1 liner and shitpost maybe thats the reason why bitmixer kicking quality poster participant to minimize or elimanate some of them and thats very helpful because shit poster can give bad image to the site they are member with and mixer cant afford to pay them for their shitlessness posting.

And for some point  i think the best running campaign now is luckybtc casino cause they give high pays to their particilants and managers good for kicking out those pretencious or what you could shit posters wandering in this furom,  and the pay is on time with no days delay.


High rate? I think luckybtc has the average amount of payment. 0.03BTC/week for Full Members. 0.04BTC/week for Sr. Nothing so special about it except for the campaign manager who is never late in paying the participants. It's not just because spammy posters give a bad image to their company, but because you also don't want to pay at the same rate someone who is doing lesser effort than you are expecting.

There are some participants in signature campaigns who are trying their best to post constructive posts and they get to pay the same as the spammy posters. That's basically not fair. To make it fair, the manager has to kick the low quality posters out of their campaign.
2545  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com Scam or legit plz on: June 01, 2016, 02:03:29 PM
Yep, I understand your point.

 Grin

It looks like we talk about this same but in other words Wink

In short, certainly there will be scammed a lot of people outside Bitcointalk, but in my opinion, about HashOcean is much more warnings then was about HashProfit, Cloudminr or Scrypt.cc . Also less people supports this "type of investments", so it is a good sign for the future. Wink


After the massive scam of tons of Ponzi sites out there, a lot of people have become aware of what ponzi is. There's more actually, there's MMM, SWA, MPA and emgoldex. Not sure if you guys have heard about these ponzi sites but they are promoted before in our group. You can pay in bitcoins but you can pay in cash as well. Now people in our group are promoting HashOcean, trying to get tons of referrals before the halving comes. People in this forum are safe from these scams unless the person was never warned/informed about ponzi sites.

To the newbies out there who's reading this, don't invest in HashOcean. We have no idea when they will run away but they surely will.
2546  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Signature Campaigns: Worth The Time? on: June 01, 2016, 01:49:46 PM
If are just thinking that you are just collecting while you are posting and learn every time your read new threads every day its worth it. but you are thinking that you need to live with bitcoin signature campaign is not enought to liive with bitcoin.. better to find other source just like trading and or start your own business online..


Not everyone has the money to start his own online business or even trading. Sure, signature campaigns aren't enough to make a living with bitcoin. But it's totally worth the time because you can earn a lot out of replying in threads in this forum. You don't have to find another source of income, you have to add another source of income. Rich people have 7 sources of income in average. There are some people here who makes a lot of money out of signature campaign by making an alt. Pretty sure they are trying to save money to start something else.

Having an alts in different campaigns multiplies your earnings. If you're going to ask why you should enroll your alt in a different campaign, it's because campaigns aren't here forever. If your accounts are all in the same campaign, if that campaign closes, you will have a hard time to migrate into another campaign all of your accounts. I don't advise having alt accounts though especially if you can't even manage to post constructive posts in a single account or if you can't even reach the maximum posts per week.
2547  Economy / Services / Re: Earn $1 BTC by Downloading and Running apps & Completing surveys. on: June 01, 2016, 01:33:43 PM
LOL why are you people so paranoid?! I'll explain it though. That ID you mentioned above is indeed linked to my account. What this does is, whoever completes/downloads an offer, it gets credited to my account which I can then credit to you by sending you the promised amounts on this thread. However, if you don't complete any offers, I don't get anything from it. So it's not the kind of referral you're talking about. Am I clear now?

I was just trying to clear things because surely those people who registered under you have to understand how they would earn besides from completing the offers. So to simply put it, you get paid when people who registered under you completes an offer. But you do not get paid once someone registers under you.

Seems like the offers are only available to some countries. There's no offer available in my country though (the Philippines).
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Sorry
We could not find any offers for your location
2548  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: June 01, 2016, 01:29:07 PM
Are you inspired by those bitcoin millionaires? Are you thinking of filing a resignation letter on your day job (if you have any) and focus on bitcoin instead?

Me? I do have a day job and I consider bitcoin as my side job. I don't want to lose that another source of income just because bitcoin is awesome.
No, and Never cause i don't know how long bitcoin stay with this price if i will quit my job and full time to bitcoin then suddenly bitcoin price go down what will i do now so i will continue my job and bitcoin as my side job so i have a money to buy stuff i need in life and bitcoin as my savings that's what my answer and just for me only so don't blame me


With the approaching bitcoin halving, it's really unlikely that BTC's price goes down. People only sees BTC price to go up, sure there would be some minidump but it always goes back to the normal price after a couple of days/weeks. And also considering the initial price of BTC to how much it is now, think of how much BTC will be in the far future. People from the past have thought that BTC will have a price of nothing, but look at them now. Those people who believed in bitcoin before are now rich. They hold onto their bitcoins for a very long time, now they can sell it for 500$ each. Imagine those people who invested 500$ on bitcoin when the bitcoin's price was really cheap.

So as for you, you better believe in bitcoins. If you are full of doubts about bitcoin, then you will not succeed in it. You should drop that doubts and believe in bitcoin. Don't even think that bitcoin's price will go down, and even if the bitcoin price goes down (it's very unlikely though), it'll not go down overnight. You will have a lot of time to sell all your bitcoins.
2549  Economy / Services / Re: Earn $1 BTC by Downloading and Running apps & Completing surveys. on: June 01, 2016, 01:22:59 PM
Registering is only to keep track of your Reward Points, it has nothing to do with referrals or not. This is simply do the offers/surveys or downloading apps to your phone and you get paid after you have accumulated enough Points. It's really easy as that.

If that is so, then why are you promoting this site? Or maybe you're promoting your blogspot.com, that's why you didn't post the direct link.

Also, there's an ID which I believe is yours:
Code:
d64d0e92e27a49c09bec7b5e97ef7388

Removing the ID from the URL removes your name (killingangel) on top. So basically it indicates that I was referred by you. I can't think of a reason why are you promoting this if you can't get paid by referrals.
2550  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: June 01, 2016, 01:18:07 PM
When you find one let me know  Tongue. I always get greedy and lose everything. I just want to make one more bet and never end up cashing out. If I never cash out I will never win but when I'm ready to cash out I always wanna "top up" and that's when I lose everything. I always think oh I can get a little bit more it will be fine. But ya.... Guess I don't learn my lesson so easily. But I know I am not the only one here who gambles like a mad man at least.


The solution to your problem is to learn to know when to stop. You were given a chance to cash out a lot of money but you wanted a bigger win. That's why it busts and you go home with nothing. You're trying to play like a whale. Actually whales don't mind losing for a lot of times because they have a big bankroll and they are always into hitting the jackpot.

You should try cashing out when there's a decent profit already and once you have saved up a lot of money to reach for a much higher multiplier, then go for it. You shouldn't hurry up hitting the jackpot especially if you don't have a decent bankroll just yet.
2551  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com Scam or legit plz on: June 01, 2016, 01:07:16 PM
If you read carefully what i wrote, you will understand, that i wrote about this thred. There is few more threads about HashOcean, and also are full of warnings that this service is Ponzi scheme.
I'm sure that HashOcean team is looking for other ways to promote their business, and it will bring a lot of scammed people, but at least here people can read true about this "cloud mining".
Let's hope that the damage will be less than with other Ponzi.


It seems like you only based the population of HashOcean investors to come from here. Guess what? Lots of them didn't come from this forum. HashOcean is widely promoted in facebook crypto groups and pages. A lot of investors have become aware of it being a ponzi scam after joining and not before. So they have to push the number of their referrals so that they can shorten the time of getting their ROI. No matter how much people in this forum say that HashOcean is a ponzi scam, people from facebook or other websites wouldn't hear it. If you have no knowledge about bitcoins and your friend refers you into HashOcean, then surely you wouldn't think of it as a ponzi scam simply because you have no idea about it in the first place.

Once again I have the feeling that you do not read my posts, or make a mistake quoting the wrong person. Next time, I suggest to read all text..

Are you talking about this post because I'm pretty sure I have read it all. Roll Eyes I wouldn't quote your post if I didn't read it fully. Also, I noticed the text that you made bold. Not sure why are you acting like I didn't get the gist of your post.

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It seems that you have not read this thread, a large majority of posts is about that HashOcean is Ponzi. I dont see any similarity to cloudminr, script.cc or hashprofit threads. People who invest in HashOcean are well aware of the risks.

I was just trying to justify this part:
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People who invest in HashOcean are well aware of the risks.

Yep, I understand your point.
2552  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: June 01, 2016, 01:03:48 PM
I do not think you have to look for another hobby to get out of gambling dude
actually you can get out of gambling if you want to. you just need to mean it to come out of gambling. then you could do it
That's right.If you look out for another hobby to get out of one,chances are you will end up getting used to the other.The best way to get out of gambling is to get out of the internet and do something in the real life.
I think he is referring to another hobby that is not gambling, it should be a productive hobby that would give you positive results in life. Focus you attention on things that will improve your life and give you a good future. Like investing or simply working online, use you free time in working than focusing it on gambling.


Improving your life doesn't always depend on earning money. You can have a good life without money actually. I suggest that if you want to stay away from gambling, be offline more often. Gambling is mostly done online because you don't have to drive to casino to gamble. You only have to type the address on your browser. Being online will give you the chance to gamble once you're done with your new hobby. If you're offline, you can focus on life and with your new hobby. You should try extreme adventures or maybe just go to the gym. This will surely improve your life, your body as well as you as a human being.
2553  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com Scam or legit plz on: June 01, 2016, 12:56:40 PM
If you read carefully what i wrote, you will understand, that i wrote about this thred. There is few more threads about HashOcean, and also are full of warnings that this service is Ponzi scheme.
I'm sure that HashOcean team is looking for other ways to promote their business, and it will bring a lot of scammed people, but at least here people can read true about this "cloud mining".
Let's hope that the damage will be less than with other Ponzi.


It seems like you only based the population of HashOcean investors to come from here. Guess what? Lots of them didn't come from this forum. HashOcean is widely promoted in facebook crypto groups and pages. A lot of investors have become aware of it being a ponzi scam after joining and not before. So they have to push the number of their referrals so that they can shorten the time of getting their ROI. No matter how much people in this forum say that HashOcean is a ponzi scam, people from facebook or other websites wouldn't hear it. If you have no knowledge about bitcoins and your friend refers you into HashOcean, then surely you wouldn't think of it as a ponzi scam simply because you have no idea about it in the first place.
2554  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos? on: June 01, 2016, 12:49:45 PM
I dont think you should invest in bitcoin casinos and not only because it is a casino where a lot of people are losing money no instead of that. You dont must invest in a casino because of the risk of losing your money that would be very sad.

All investings have its risk, investing on casinos bankroll is most safe than playing on it. If the casino is safe enought to protect its wallet from hacking i don't see an high risk investing on it.
Its still risky even you are just investing it and never gamble. there's no safe place in gambling casino's anytime you can be lose.. if you are looking for a safe place gambling casino's is not the best place for safety of your money..  gambling casino's is just like carnival that give entertainment for people not for making money..
Of course its risky, nothing is safe in investing but the fact that you are investing in an online casinos makes sense. This is your chance to profit or to get back your losses while gambling, the house always wins and that was already proven, your job now is to find and invest a trusted gambling site.


You guys are one or 2 year late in investing in bitcoin casinos. Bitcoin casinos used to be very profitable back then. I don't advise that you guys put a lot of money in investing in bitcoin casinos. It's likely that it'll take a lot of time before you can get your ROI. And also there's a chance that the casino goes bankrupt. Unless bitcoin casinos becomes a hit once again, you shouldn't invest in it.
2555  Economy / Services / Re: Earn $1 BTC by Downloading and Running apps & Completing surveys. on: June 01, 2016, 12:42:42 PM
why dont post original link directly?

You're a senior member, you should know this by now. Posting referral links aren't allowed in this forum.

i think this just like earn reward from refferal and you paid very little amount to us


Probably OP is doing this to attract people to register under him. There's a chance that other people would post about this and OP has to offer rewards so people would register under him instead.
2556  Other / Off-topic / Re: How kids can "earn" Bitcoin ? on: June 01, 2016, 12:26:54 PM
Yes your child can earn bitcoin or mone online.But first thing to ask is how old is your child.If your child is less than 15 years old i would recommend you to tell him just to focus on his studies instead.But if he is old enough then let him and guide him on trading sites and other stuffs that helps money grow.There are many faucet games on mobile and pc
I think it would be best if you let him start with the basic first, faucets is a good idea to learn money as it is not complicated. Afterwhich, you can teach him how to invest on potential coins and maybe the last is trading. Don't let him involve in gambling.


Seriously, why are you people keep on suggesting that kids should do faucets first. No matter how old the person is, he shouldn't do faucets. Faucets are complete waste of time. Unless your kid's got a pretty good IQ and knows how to make his own webpage/website already then he should make a faucet rotator and promote it to tons of groups/pages/forums.
I agree that faucets are complete waste of time regardless of age of it's users.
Moreover I never agree to introduce your kids about bitcoin. I strongly believe, it might deviate them from their studies or from their childhood activities. Let them enjoy their innocent childhood life.


Yes, it might make them isolate themselves from other kids out there. But the thing is, reading stuffs in this forum especially if you read the post of the DT members, it can make you become a more logical person. A kid who is a logical thinker will surely act as more matured than other kids. This might be good to some people and some people might see it as a bad thing. For me, it's a good thing that kids become well aware of bitcoin and become a logical thinker (optional though). Bitcoin will surely rise in the future. It'd be pretty embarrassing if your kids go to school and people talk about Bitcoins (like it's the cool thing) and your kids don't know anything about it.

Kids should at least have a background about bitcoin and how to earn money from it. The most basic thing you can do is teach him to trade Bitcoin to USD and vice versa. He only has to check once a day and see if he has to buy or he has to sell. This way, he'll understand other currencies (real world currency not crypto) as well. The money that he will make out of trading is dependent on how much money you initially give him.
2557  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How earn Bitcoins fast and free?? on: June 01, 2016, 12:19:12 PM
Yobit is the only campaign that is accepting new participants and I think it is very good for new comers whoe wants to start earning bitcoin.

yes you are right, but no more jr. member is accepted to the campaign. You just need to work it out. And not only signature campaign, it is still
the usual way of getting bitcoin fast and free even for small amount still it is good to have nothing, like faucets.

This forum seeks to every signature campaign is minimal accepting registration member. I agree with this, it would be better for the signature campaign, and to avoid spam. also avoid many users create a new account directly join the signature campaign. There are currently only two signature campaign that they still accept jr.member downward, and most already have rule a minimal accept member to join signature campaign.

Yes that's 777coin and bitvest, but they are having problem on that campaign, I don't know their payments are always delay but still they are
paying but for those people who want to join that campaign to earn bitcoins fast and free. I don't recommend you guys in joining there.
But it's still up to you, it's your choice.


Since you guys were talking about Jr. Members and Newbies, it'd be better that they get the point of the different boards of this forum. For example, gambling, they should be knowledgeable enough to answer the things that are asked there. And also they should be aware of the forum rules so that they wouldn't get banned from joining signature campaign. I'm pretty sure that after reaching Member rank, they have learned the basics/intermediate stuffs about bitcoin. They should also work on their English (for non english people) because unclear English might look like a spammy post to most people. Doing so will make the chances of them getting kicked out of the campaign lesser.
2558  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 0.3 btc in a week on: June 01, 2016, 12:14:46 PM
Hey Guys,

Is there any way I can find 0.3 btc in a week? I can stay at the PC whole day. And for gambling I don't have money to gamble. Investments are scams. I won't ask for loans because I'm a newbie.

Any other way I can find 0.3 btc in a week.

Thank you.

you can use 8x R9 280x im sure you can get 0.3btc permonth with mining etherum


The title says 0.3BTC in a week and you said 0.3 BTC per month. Since there are 4 weeks in a month, running 4 of that mining setup can get you 0.3BTC in a week. Ethereum mining is profitable unless the price goes really low. You can also do some trading of alt coins so even if ETH's price goes down, you can easily recover the missing BTCs to get your target which is 0.3 BTC.
2559  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com Scam or legit plz on: June 01, 2016, 12:10:37 PM
Reading the discussion here is like reading the discussion on scrypt.cc and cloudminr.io story sounds familiar
A lot fans with high praises to HashOcean and claims to be legit because site is paying, then there will be a time when HashOcean investors will start posting I did not receive my payment and another will claim to be the owner of the site saying they were hacked ala Marcelo Santos.

It seems that you have not read this thread, a large majority of posts is about that HashOcean is Ponzi. I dont see any similarity to cloudminr, script.cc or hashprofit threads. People who invest in HashOcean are well aware of the risks.

Just wait when the crying starts. Very soon. Have bought popcorn for this.

About this I am sure! Then I will be happy to search history of their posts to remind how brave and smart they were..

Are you really sure that people who invested their money in HashOcean are fully aware of the risks? Just like the people in scrypt.cc, they didn't know that the site will eventually run away and do the "i got hacked" scam. I myself was referred by tons of people in scrypt.cc and they didn't mention about that. Of course, they wouldn't mention about the site being a ponzi. I was new in the bitcoin world and has very little knowledge about bitcoins. If they said that the site will eventually run away, there'd be no chance of me investing in scrypt.cc.

Pretty sure that the same thing has happened to most people who invested in HashOcean. If you are well aware about ponzi scams and all the lame excuses that they make just to run away, pretty sure you will not invest in it. Most people in this forum are well aware about ponzis, that's why ponzi sites that are being promoted here doesn't get that much referrals (little to none).
2560  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com Scam or legit plz on: June 01, 2016, 12:02:46 PM
Reading the discussion here is like reading the discussion on scrypt.cc and cloudminr.io story sounds familiar
A lot fans with high praises to HashOcean and claims to be legit because site is paying, then there will be a time when HashOcean investors will start posting I did not receive my payment and another will claim to be the owner of the site saying they were hacked ala Marcelo Santos.

It seems that you have not read this thread, a large majority of posts is about that HashOcean is Ponzi. I dont see any similarity to cloudminr, script.cc or hashprofit threads. People who invest in HashOcean are well aware of the risks.

Just wait when the crying starts. Very soon. Have bought popcorn for this.

About this I am sure! Then I will be happy to search history of their posts to remind how brave and smart they were..

Are you really sure that people who invested their money in HashOcean are fully aware of the risks? Just like the people in scrypt.cc, they didn't know that the site will eventually run away and do the "i got hacked" scam. I myself was referred by tons of people in scrypt.cc and they didn't mention about that. Of course, they wouldn't mention about the site being a ponzi. I was new in the bitcoin world and has very little knowledge about bitcoins. If they said that the site will eventually run away, there'd be no chance of me investing in scrypt.cc.

Pretty sure that the same thing has happened to most people who invested in HashOcean. If you are well aware about ponzi scams and all the lame excuses that they make just to run away, pretty sure you will not invest in it. Most people in this forum are well aware about ponzis, that's why ponzi sites that are being promoted here doesn't get that much referrals (little to none).
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