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1541  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: January 04, 2017, 01:38:21 AM
The future of the paper money will be get rid of waste bin and then nobody knows anything about it.
Cryptocurrency will replace it and become a central digital currency for payment, purshase and storage.

Your confidence  is not back with reliable information, how would it replace paper money when currently only a little percentage of the worlds population are the users of bitcoin while we all use paper money. To reach that level of success is almost impossible, bitcoin might be the future of crypto currency but definitely not the future of money.
Is there any speculation that is backed by a strong and reliable data? No. Anyone can legit say anything here and that's their opinion. Nothing is a fact in here unless it has happened already. His comment is no different than the comments here saying that paper money will vanish and will be replaced by a crypto-currency.

We don't have any "reliable" information to contradict his opinion as well. Everything's just speculation. The only thing we can say right now is that paper money will not be replaced by a crypto-currency any time soon.
1542  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: January 02, 2017, 08:03:45 AM
~snip~

How viable is the lending services here on the forum? some other BTC lending services have high loan default rate
Based on DarkStar's and zazarb's threads, it's kind of viable. But they're actually really really cautious on giving out loans. Seems almost everyday, somebody's asking for a loan but not all of them are getting approved.

Other BTC lending service has a high default rate because they accept pretty much everyone. Most of them just require for you to verify your personal info and then that's it.
1543  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I'd like to get some bitcoins. Is now a good time to do so? on: January 02, 2017, 07:54:41 AM
When this thread was opened (seven months ago) the price was below $600 and it was undoubtedly a good time to buy more coins. But at this time I am not so sure that it could be a good idea, because we are closer of the record high and at this point none can affirm with certainty what will happen next.
Don't bet against the trend, you could certainly make profit doing short term investment buying now. I still believe the price will not stop at this level, it could grow more and might surpass the all time high before it will fall back a little bit. Do not hesitate, learn to take bigger risk, now is the right time to buy and tomorrow.
That's probably what was somebody that bought at the peak of $1200 range back then was thinking. He bought coins thinking that he will be able to sell it for a higher price and he just have to short trade it. It turns out, that was the peak. You don't want to chase an increasing market because you might end up buying in the peak as well. I would recommend waiting for a little while and see what's going on in the bitcoin market and then look for other's opinion in the speculation board rather than saying "today is good time to buy and tomorrow too."
1544  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: January 02, 2017, 07:48:16 AM
I am fully disagree with the Bitcoin bank idea . Because if it goes successfully comes then it will destroy the job of many bitcoin trader . In my friends circle many of friends who are trader of bitcoin are in fear to loss job .
Because after comes of bitcoin bank people will make buy directly , and bank will make profit .
I don't think bitcoin trading is a job at all. Once you have all the bitcoins set up, you're going to spend a couple of hour max per week to do bitcoin trading. You just study the graph, hope that you're online by the time of price increase. You literally just press a button to sell/buy bitcoins. I don't think it's a job at all.

I also don't think that the introduction and implementation of bitcoin banks will only allow banks to make profit and the exchangers wouldn't be used at all. Bitcoin banks wouldn't be able to acquire all of the bitcoins in the world, only the coins that their users are going to deposit. Not unless if they're going to fund it and buy bitcoins for their bank.
1545  Economy / Economics / Re: How to teach kids about Bitcoin? on: January 02, 2017, 07:40:13 AM
If wanting to get kids into Bitcoin there are loads of ways to implement exposure to this demographic.

It'll work if pushing mobile faucet games to youth, spreading joy by giving a gift or even jumping up to teach them the value of rare investment early on in life.
That would be fun because everyone wants to give and receive gifts. They would be able to socialize to other teenagers that are just starting out in bitcoins but they wouldn't earn any significant amount of money even if they continue doing mobile faucet games for years. I think teaching them about investments, trading, and all those basic stuffs that you have to learn about bitcoin would be much better. Simply tell them the truth about faucets regardless of what platform it is on or whatever twist it has, faucets are a waste of time.
1546  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: January 02, 2017, 07:32:02 AM
No i don't, because there are no reasons for shameful gambling game are just for fun and entertainment there are no other aim.
There are other aims just like earning money from gambling. Even if you keep saying that you're just gambling for fun, you still have the intention to earn some money from it that's why you keep doing it. If you have no reason to become ashamed of being a gambler, try doing some research about the society and how gamblers are so frowned upon. It's already 2017 but the mentality of most people about gamblers is still the same.
1547  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me your predictions about Bitcoin on: January 02, 2017, 07:23:34 AM
I predict $1000 US tonight, like in the next 7 hours.

i think the price will not be $1000 US but lets hope it will be happen tonight. i see on the chart in poloniex market, the line is going to be stagnan or maybe it will get down in a moment before its break another price and increase high.
Honestly we are now nearly touch according to movement of bitfinex price hits $999 and i think few more hours or days that we can touch in $1k vlaue soon and i hope that it can stay long in that value so that the price can be stay at that price and i think more people and company are using bitcoin that is why we are seeing the price was increased..
I thing so.Lets take a look what happend next late tonight.It almost touch the goal around $1000 USD.  Grin
Update : it already touches to $1,000 as of today. I like it as it happened at the start of the year, we can surely have more productive year compared to last year. I mean, last year was amazing but we can surpass the success for last year as we are getting bigger overtime.
Although the price of bitcoin at the start of the year has nothing to do with our productivity in the remaining months of the year, I think it's good that we're off with a good start. Sooner or later, facebook pages and other influential social media stuffs would be posting about bitcoins hitting $1000. I wouldn't expect this price to last for a long time since a lot of people are waiting for $1000 exactly to sell some of their coins. Everything pretty much in the bitcoin price increase is a bubble anyway.
1548  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: January 02, 2017, 07:11:20 AM
A basic advice is to only bet a set percentage of your bankroll per day while in the long run this will mean you will lose all your money anyway the difference is that it will happen slower that way you learn to manage your money and your emotions, since there is a big difference between losing your bankroll in a month than in 5 minutes.
I don't see how gambling every single day can help someone with gambling problems. It's like to say to alcoholic that drinking half bottle every day instead of full bottle will solve his problem with alcohol. It doesn't work that way.
That's not going to stop any addiction at all but it will help you lessen your addiction. From two bottles to one and then from one to half. From half to 1/4 and so on.. Eventually, it would be less and less that you'd find it boring and just ditch the whole addiction thing. My advice is to lessen your time spend gambling and not just betting smaller than usual. You surely wouldn't mind the bet amount since, well, you were betting tons of money back then. This way, you're also learning to discipline yourself and you're going to start to have control of your urges.
1549  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: January 02, 2017, 07:01:48 AM
Yes we can manipulate the price of bitcoin using  demand and supply which I believe is the so reason for the recent bitcoin price booming as a result of high demand for btc around the world
Ha! I didn't agree with you , in my opinion why the Bitcoin price now is increasing recently its because ths is the effect of halving that happen this year.
Not mainly, there are a lot of positive things that happened which affects the price of bitcoin to increase. If you will analyze carefully which is a must for every investors, the real reason behind the success is us, we keep supporting bitcoin and it has come to the attention to a lot of people and that adoption rate have increases. It's a continuing process as the price is mainly depending on the demand of the people.
Agreed, if no one was buying bitcoins then the price of bitcoin shouldn't be increasing. Halving just mainly affects the miner because it divides the block reward by two. Halving is affecting the price as well but not directly. For example, if there was no bitcoin halving happening every four years, then the block reward would still be relatively large and the price wouldn't be like this.
1550  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it possible to buy bitcoins by paypal? on: January 02, 2017, 06:54:15 AM
You can do that realy easy but it is risk involved.you can try to ask some your firends online which use bitcoin and paypal if they want sell you but if not try to find somebody in facebook but only with coreterral or ask him to send first and then you send money,
There's no risk at your end at all since you can always dispute the payment. This has been the flaw of Paypal but it's on your advantage if you're the buyer. I'm sure that the bitcoin seller would require that you send first because you can dispute the payment and he cannot. You don't have to look for collateral or assurance at all. The guy that is taking risk is the guy that's selling you bitcoins because even after a couple of months, you can dispute your payment.
1551  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if BTC was Banned? on: January 02, 2017, 06:32:20 AM
If bitcoin is banned then the chance to get adopted by many countries will not exist because banning bitcoin will result for having bad reputation to others and development for bitcoin will be hard because for sure the authorities will arrest people who try to help in improving bitcoin since they didn't obey the law.
And if it does happen, revolution may be happen. The people who support Bitcoin will against the Government and the result will be very very bad. I do not like war at all and I hope this will not happen. The number of people who use Bitcoin is very high so i think the Government will have to figure out the way which can solve the Bitcoin problem instead of banning it
Very high? The highest we might be right now is 1 million in population. I don't think a revolution has happened with just that much population. We're less than 0.1% of the population. The government might not even listen to us and just think that we're whining. Most bitcoin users will just carry on in their business even without bitcoins. They'll do a different business instead. Good bitcoin users have already anticipated all these events and they already have a back up plan for these happenings.
1552  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me a secret: any way to earn 0.1 BTC per week? on: January 02, 2017, 06:23:54 AM
I know a few people earning at least $500k daily because they made something that earns them profit even when they are sleep, there are many people earning much more but when you give money to them they become more greedy, so less you have less you are greedy.
Yup, for example Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg. Grin You can easily search for people that earns that big daily because most of them owns a huge company.

The world we live in isn't balanced at all, two people doing the same amount of work aren't paid equally and most of the employers want to pay less as much as possible.
I remember a TV series or a movie that said something like "People are either underpaid or overpaid. No one's getting paid exactly how much he deserves."

You could earn that much by participating in signature campaigns, every one knows that.
I've been updating the signature campaign overview table for a while now and I haven't found any signature campaign that pays you 0.1BTC per week.


A donkey works hard but no one pays them anything other than feeding them.
Nice analogy, btw.
1553  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has no competition on: January 02, 2017, 06:17:03 AM
But, bitcoin will always be on top, it's hard to go beyond bitcoin shade.
That's simply not true, if other cryptocurrencies become more advanced, are easier to use and receive more adoption, they'll overtake Bitcoin without any trouble. Bitcoin definitely has an advantage because it was the first, but its development is slow, so it may be outpaced by others.
Some altcoins has achieved becoming more advanced and easier to use than bitcoins. But the thing is, almost everything about crypto-currencies is either about or pointed towards adoption. If no one's using the coin, then it's a failure. If there's a lot, the it's a success. No coin has more users than bitcoins. Becoming an altcoin user just introduces you to bitcoins so basically (almost) all altcoin users are bitcoin users.

Right now, there's no major force that makes people migrate from using bitcoins into using a certain altcoin.
1554  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: January 02, 2017, 06:00:39 AM
a large difference between real money with bitcoin is, with real money, you can exchange freely in the country that you live in, even very easy to use it anywhere, as long as it's still country. but you can not use bitcoin freely, because not all people accept bitcoin, and bitcoin not everyone knows.
When it comes to getting accepted as payment, fiat and bitcoins is the same when you're travelling the world. You don't have to pay someone using bitcoins directly. If you're in India (for example), and you tried to pay using dollars in a local store, would they accept it? No, because it's a foreign currency. You have to convert it first. Just like bitcoins, you have to convert fiat. There's no difference.
1555  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's Be Honest. We Are Waiting for $100/BTC to buy on: January 02, 2017, 05:42:13 AM
When this happens then you know the apocalypse is very close to happening.
That means that progress has ceased and the end is near. Embarrassed
With the strides that bitcoin has made recently it is hard to ever think of this happening.
This thread is old. Roll Eyes
Well, based on what has happened in the past, major price decrease like this one didn't mean apocalypse or some end-of-bitcoin stuff. It went to $1,200 in 2014 and then it went to $200 in 2015. Did the life of bitcoin end? No. People just hyped up bitcoins and then people dumped it for their reasons. The case might not be exactly $100, but it's basically the same thing as we're discussing.
1556  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: January 02, 2017, 05:34:56 AM
It's good to start the trading with very small amounts and learn on your own mistakes. Thus you will not lose much and you will gain some kind of experience and get "prepared" for real "game". So don't be afraid to try your own and success will come eventualy.
yes starting gambling with a small amount is a right decision, and specially if you have no experience in trading, first you need to get some experience in trading and after that you can invest some good amount in trading.
I really think that trading is profitable at any point whether or not you have a small amount or a large of amount that you want to start trading with, there are a lot of trading sites that allow you to trade with little amount and for a short period of time like a 1 min trading for 102% of your money, I have found this method very profitable.
That's not always possible. The only way you can do that is if you bought some altcoins and then you put it on sale for a higher price and then someone buys your coins. Short trading is not always successful since the price might go lower right after you bought the coins. It's profitable maybe for a couple of times. But 102% return isn't that much unless you're investing a lot of money (which will decrease the price of the coin, btw). Even if you trade altcoins in a compounded manner, I doubt that you'll even double your money.
1557  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: December 29, 2016, 08:19:54 AM
I think investing is more risky than gambling because most of investing websites are just scam, but in gambling you have better chances to make your bitcoin grow. How about you guys what do you think?

I guess the 'scam investment' you mean ponzi scheme? Ponzi is not a investment it is a donation to the scammer. For me investment is a better option than gambling because it seems less risky and I can decide where to invest.

Well, if you only invest in ponzies at the beginning, when they start
You can actually earn quite a bit of money  Cheesy

You just have to play it smart and get out as soon as profit
The problem is the fact that you don't know up to how long will the hyip site run. Sure, they might run long enough for you to get your ROI as an early investor. But would they run long enough for you to get a good amount of profit? I don't think so. Since hyip sites owner just make new and new hyip sites, they don't mind closing down one of their many hyip sites. They can even close down before anyone reach the minimum amount for cash out.
1558  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's Be Honest. We Are Waiting for $100/BTC to buy on: December 29, 2016, 08:12:41 AM
In case nobodys said it yet. None of us will ever see a $100 btc again. Those days are long behind us.
(Almost) all of the people that has replied this thread said that. Try reading.

You never buy bitcoin with price 100$ . Maybe you can buy 1,000$ or more in the year of 2017.
Do not hesitate or you will not own bitcoin with recent price. Do it now , Guy.
Why we can't buy bitcoin with the price of 100$? And also Why we need to buy at the current price if we can just wait for a weeks for a dump and buy bitcoin for a cheaper price because that is practical in my opinion. If you are into long term investment then buy now but if you want to make profit after a few days then just wait and buy bitcoin for cheaper price and not now.
Because there's no guarantee that the price will decrease after a couple of weeks. Right now, we're having a rally towards 1000$. That might continue. If you don't buy at this price and the price kept on increasing, you'll surely regret not buying right now. You should be having profits at that time. But, I guess we all have our own strategies. Some don't want to chase the price increase, some wants to. I'm not recommending anything that you should do because you might blame me if you lose profit.
1559  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: December 29, 2016, 08:02:00 AM
Trading with a very small amount will lead to a very small profit. Logically. I would like to recommend you to rise the amount of your bitcoins at least to a just small amount  Wink and with bigger you can try some places for trading. In the case if it's going to be no profit in one, in other it will be at least something.
You can still get big profit with very small amount of investment? How? By just doing compounding, compounding is where you reinvest your profit so you will have a bigger amount of investment. Very small amount also is a good amount to start since you will experience bad situations but always try to learn lesson from it so you will have a better performance.
What if I told you that compounding wouldn't always work in trading because the market's not always going up? There are days when you're going to lose money, if you invest in a compounding manner, eventually you're going to lose a lot of money. It would be hard for you to get back on track when you lose in trading. Compounding mostly just works in loans by the government. It's quite hard to do it on your own.
1560  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: December 29, 2016, 07:52:21 AM
Sorry I dissagree with you, bitcoin is a currency not such thing as gold or silver, people in some country were borred to use fiat becouse government can print it anytime they wants, its make the value is decrease in every printing. People are suffer a financial lost but they don't know about that. So I pretty sure that bitcoin can replace fiat.
I disagree with you as well. The government is not just printing and printing fiat money. If they did, then there will be excess fiat which will just go to waste. That is one of the basic things that's taught in an economy class. The fiat will surely decrease in value if they print more and more so they don't do that. People don't suffer from financial loss by this because it's not happening in real life or maybe in most countries, at least.
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