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1561  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: December 29, 2016, 07:40:52 AM
A good way to minimize the risks is not invest real money (or invest a little amount).

With some efforts you can earn bitcoin from faucets, forum signature campaigns, glambling (not recomended), trades, etc...

After achieve a good bitcoins amount you could invest It. If you lose all, you don't lose your money.
If a person will not invest real money then he will not take any benefit as if someone will start with nothing then he will not earn faster and he will then feel too late and slow and will regret which I am feeling. But if someone will want a faster profit then he have to invest some real money.
Money isn't always the investment that you need. For example, when you get a job, you don't necessarily have to pay them money. All you have to be is qualified. When you're qualified, you just have to work and then you're going to earn money. Your pay rate is depending on your position on your work. The investment in most jobs are knowledge and time, but not always money.

But if we're talking about getting shares in a company or any of that kind of investment, then you're right. The more money that you invested, the faster you'll get profit.
1562  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading? on: December 28, 2016, 09:23:25 AM
I have lost some amount in trading but I think it’s much better than losing money in gambling or so. I see the loss as the fees for learning something new or say the fees to learn trading lessons so I am not much disappointed while trading. Trading is a science as well as an art and the commerce is just a medium to deal with it so I always prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
Some people would say that it's okay to lose their money from gambling and say that it's a learning experience, too. Wink People see what they want to see even if it means they're going to lose money. It's okay to consider those as "fee" for learning something if it's not that much. Otherwise, I think it would be much better if you buy a paid e-book out there. Find what's the best e-book about trading and you surely will learn much more than you can from losing money from trading. But I guess losing some money from trading is just a normal thing and it's experienced even by the excellent traders out there.
1563  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: December 28, 2016, 09:14:28 AM
Hey guys I'm not sure if this is the right place so please tell me if it is not. With that out of the way, I have a question for you all. I have recently been able to gather about .5 btc through minor trading and I was wondering if there was any method or way to grow this btc into a larger amount safely and fairly quickly. Thanks!

Actually there's no need to do anything,Bitcoin grows by itself but if you want to really make a profit out of your bitcoin,you can loan people who are in need of bitcoin,there's a loan section here,trading is risky you can lose all your bitcoin if you pick the wrong coin to buy.
Giving out loans is just as risky as trading. It might even be riskier since you have no idea who are the people that you're giving loans while in trading you can sell your coin when the price starts to drop. There has been a lot of discussion about giving loans in this forum and mostly it's because of the collateral. I checked the people that has given out loans for a long time and the stats of the people that has paid them is actually quite good. But upon checking the whole thread, they are actually really picky on choosing people to give loans. It's not a quick way to earn bitcoins but it's a good way to do so if you know how to choose the right people.

well with lending there are ways to reduce the risk and even to reduce it to nearly zero risk. for example you can check the history of who you are giving the loan to as your first step.
the second step which is the most important is to ask for a valid collateral and if you get something worth 10% more than the loaned amount you have nothing to worry about.
That might work to some users but not all users has a lending history. Remember that there's a lot of users here and there's very few users that has asked for loan and even people that have taken loan before can run away with your money as well.

The only thing that you'll be worrying about is if the collateral can be sold by the time that you need money. The only thing that's actually easy to sell are altcoins since there's an exchanger for that. Accounts from different sites and website domains are quite hard to sell as well unless it's in demand or the account/website has something that makes it easier to sell than the normal ones.
1564  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: December 28, 2016, 09:04:08 AM
its very simple that different between in bitcoin and real money , bitcoin have no physical shape and recently we can use it for direct shopping in local shops and real money have physical shape and we can use it for direct shopping in anywhere in local shops.

You posted your reply twice, maybe you should delete the other one.

Anyway, regards the physical "shape" or maybe you meant "form" in your sentence, indeed bitcoin does not have a physical representation of the coins but real money also has such form. Real money can be deposited, for example in paypal, which would become digital. Another is credit cards, you can buy a lot of things without even getting your wallet using credit cards. I don't think form has anything to do with both financial mediums. It does not really give them any real advantage or disadvantage.
To some, it does. When people asked me where are my bitcoins, I said it's on the internet and they looked dismayed or disappointed. That shouldn't be a problem to me though because right from the start I was aware that bitcoin is a cryptocurrency and not a fiat currency. There are physical bitcoins that has a corresponding amount in the wallet but it costs a lot and we don't really need that physical coin to have transactions.

I can add in your post that bitcoin is basically the same as those digital form of money like the ones in paypal and bank accounts. Similar to those, you can convert your bitcoin into fiat as well.
1565  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Bitcoin has power nowadays ? on: December 28, 2016, 08:51:25 AM
This is because of the extraordinary rise in price, everyone thinks bitcoin is the only the most profitable investment. much of the media continue to preach it, so many famous people choose bitcoin to put their money.
Like who? I might not be that active when it comes to TV shows but I browse the internet a lot and I haven't found famous people preaching bitcoins around. I don't think the media even talked about it except for some social media pages that gives out posts about bitcoin. Most of the posts are negative, though, because of the popularity of bitcoin being used in the dark Net.

I don't think "everyone" thinks that bitcoin is the best investment right now since not everyone knows about bitcoin. Mostly just people that stays on the internet for a couple of hours every single day knows about bitcoin.
1566  Economy / Economics / Re: Worst bitcoin decision you've ever made? on: December 28, 2016, 07:59:20 AM
I joined bitcoin when it price was only ~$200. I regret that I didn't buy some bitcoins at this time. But then I was only newbie and I had very sceptical opinion about bitcoin.
Me too and I think everyone else too. We all thought that bitcoin is some sort of scam and it's just another strategy of scammers. When you say to people that you can earn money online, the first thing that comes to mind is that you're doing some illegal stuffs. Pretty sure I've heard about bitcoin a long time ago as well but didn't give any attention to it. If I did, I should be rich by now. I shouldn't be in college, I should be somewhere else enjoying the money that I have made. Anyway, the only thing we can do now is regret being skeptical. Let's just look at the bright side that right now, we can earn money from bitcoins.
1567  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: December 28, 2016, 07:44:26 AM
Trading Bitcoin seems to be getting harder now. If the price rises and you put in sell orders, the price just keep going up. There's no way to buy back in unless we see a big drop in price.
Hasn't it been always like that ever since? When the price is increasing, you keep holding your bitcoins. When the price seem to stop moving, you start selling some of your coins. If the bitcoin starts increasing once again, then you just have to hold your remaining bitcoins. When the price drops, you buy some bitcoins again. There's no difference at all. It's actually a good thing that the price is increasing and increasing. That means you don't have to wait for the price decrease or speculate at all since you know that the price is increasing day by day. Eventually, this rally will stop and you can sell some of your coins. This is profit for us, don't look at it as if it's a bad thing.
1568  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it possible to buy really large BTC amounts? on: December 28, 2016, 07:34:53 AM
Actually, last time i bought 10 to 12 bitcoin from trust able exchange before the halving. But now i have been sold them, and still i have not bought a big amount of bitcoins since when. But i think it has no problem to buy a big amount of bitcoins, only need to think to be-careful about the exchange, where you want to buy the bitcoins.
I think by "large BTC amounts" the OP meant, like, thousands of them. 10BTC is nothing compared to how much the whales hold. I might be large for us because we're an average guy but for rich people 10BTC is a really small amount of money. OP is actually asking about a million dollar worth of bitcoin. That's more than a thousand of bitcoins.
1569  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: December 28, 2016, 07:26:23 AM
Hey guys I'm not sure if this is the right place so please tell me if it is not. With that out of the way, I have a question for you all. I have recently been able to gather about .5 btc through minor trading and I was wondering if there was any method or way to grow this btc into a larger amount safely and fairly quickly. Thanks!

Actually there's no need to do anything,Bitcoin grows by itself but if you want to really make a profit out of your bitcoin,you can loan people who are in need of bitcoin,there's a loan section here,trading is risky you can lose all your bitcoin if you pick the wrong coin to buy.
Giving out loans is just as risky as trading. It might even be riskier since you have no idea who are the people that you're giving loans while in trading you can sell your coin when the price starts to drop. There has been a lot of discussion about giving loans in this forum and mostly it's because of the collateral. I checked the people that has given out loans for a long time and the stats of the people that has paid them is actually quite good. But upon checking the whole thread, they are actually really picky on choosing people to give loans. It's not a quick way to earn bitcoins but it's a good way to do so if you know how to choose the right people.
1570  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is being told to people in High Schools about Bitcoin on: December 28, 2016, 07:12:13 AM
I would really say that in 10 standards there is no training about bitcoins in my country only 30% of people know about bitcoins and are using it,
when I was in class 12 except 2-3 child no one knows about bitcoins so it's not the good thing.
Bitcoin should also promote their company worldwide about awareness and would be really helpful to all people, I don't think so a teacher would also know about bitcoins so how they will teach us.
I think that's actually a good thing. Having a few bitcoin users around you is much better than having none at all. At least you know you're not a 1 around all these 0 people (0 and 1 are binary stuff). You guys are actually the key to make an awareness about bitcoins around you. Now that you have 3 other bitcoin users, you can unite and introduce bitcoins to your friends if you want to.

Bitcoin doesn't have a company at all but there are tons of companies that are bitcoin-related. I don't think there's much people that spend their money just to advertise bitcoin itself. They advertise their bitcoin-related company so they get some returns/profits out of all the advertisements.
1571  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to convince my dad that Bitcoin is a trustful currency ? on: December 28, 2016, 07:01:37 AM
He don't need to understand bitcoin. Blockchain technology, crypto currency, especially bitcoin is made for millennials generation who is active every day with the internet.
One you can say to your father is, you can tell him bitcoin is a new commodity to trade or to save to earn more money. It's a new kind of investment.

Yes using technical terms usually scares the person and there is a possibility that the concerned person might stay away from the thing we want him to know.

So, It would be great to use very familiar language and explain bitcoin technology with some familiar terms like email, sms, etc. As per my experience, demonstration works smoothly while explaining bitcoin to a new person and giving him some satoshis in his fresh wallet is like turning a key for starting his car.

That's why most articles are written in a language that most people can understand. No one wants to read an article that's so technical that you'd feel you're reading some technical manual about bitcoin. Most article writers write in a way that their reader would feel as if the writer is just talking to them personally. Some even include words like, "Haha" and whatnot to even show emotions in their article.

People would just back-off if they found words in your article that they do not understand. Keep in mind that there's a lot of articles written on the internet, you don't have to force yourself to read something that have technical words. Nonetheless, watching youtube videos would give you similar results as reading this type of article because the video maker is literally talking to you.
1572  Economy / Economics / Re: Future of Bitcoin Economics on: December 28, 2016, 06:55:32 AM
Currently Bitcoin have +10 millions users, according to Blockchain wallet info. This is very small part of whole world market, so in fact Bitcoin have very small niche, but Bitcoin can expand in future, if large web sites, like Amazon will start to use it.
You can not determine the number of Bitcoin users according to only one stats. There are many people generating more than 3 wallets. The number is small, but the effect which Bitcoin has made on the ecosystem can not be denied. It brings to the world many new things and advantages. Right now, scientists and experts are learning more about the Blockchain.
Lol what are the scientists doing in the bitcoin network? Cheesy

I agree with you that you can't use the number of wallets that has been made in the blockchain network as a statistics of how many people are there. There are no personal info needed to make one, one IP can make a huge number of bitcoin wallet. We don't even know how many bitcoin wallets does an average bitcoin user has. You said there's 10 million wallets. Thousands of wallets can be owned by just a single company of like gambling sites, etc. Imagine how many companies are there. We are far from reaching 10 million in population.
1573  Economy / Economics / Re: The dream of getting rich with bitcoins on: December 28, 2016, 06:48:23 AM
Bitcoin has made some people rich from day to night, nowadays if you invest and got a good project, like exchange or casino or dice, you will collect good fees, enought for you survive, those can make you reach thse rich status, but there are already too many competition on those areas. In the general bitcoin nowadays does allow people to earn some extra dollars, but make you rich is far away to be achieved now.
For now if we are just joining in signature campaign and saving the earnings you have chance to be also rich in the future but it takes too much long if you are not starting your own business or invest to your own knowledge.. so that you can use it in the future.
Almost rich people are always getting large profit because they can get more bitcoin just to hold it when the price increase the more you are invest in bitcoin the more they can get benefits..
With this payrate, you can never be rich. Maybe if you don't spend a single bitcoin and you do signature campaign for a decade, at that point you already have a decent amount of money. I wouldn't recommend that you stay doing signature campaigns only because the only way for you to get a higher pay rate is when your account ranks up but even with Legendary status you're not going to earn that much.

What we should do is earn some money from signature campaign and then use that money as a capital for a business. Most rich people got rich because of their business anyway.
1574  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if BTC was Banned? on: December 28, 2016, 06:36:03 AM
If bitcoin banned then many people will use Vpn to access bitcoin.Because, today many people lived on bitcoin, it's giving them many opportunity to earn money.Government can't  stop people using bitcoin absolutely.People will find other ways to access bitcoin.So,it's however will be tough for government to banned bitcoin absolutely.
Anything that's on the internet cannot be easily banned. Cyber-bullying is an example of it. There's a law about that but here we are, having more and more cyber-bullies. There are people that even commit suicide because of cyber-bullying. Anyone can cyber-bully, they just have to mask their identity.

Similar to accessing bitcoins, you just have to mask your identity and pretend that you're from another country where bitcoin isn't banned. But, if there are other ways to earn money, I wouldn't risk it. I wouldn't risk going to jail for a couple of years just because I was a bitcoin user. Even though you can hide your identity or mask it, there are still ways for you to get caught.
1575  Other / Archival / Re: Updated Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns on: December 28, 2016, 06:16:48 AM
Secondstrade has just decreased their payrates (again) as the effect of bitcoin price and the unlimited number of participants imho.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1713944.0  Fortunejack is full, their 30 people list is full.

The Byteball campaign is going pretty good.Was paid 2 times till now,for 2 weeks.
Too bad it's the last week..But Yahoo and the owner did a good job bout this.Was paid withing few hours,pretty good.

I've updated the Pastebin with these 3 changes.
http://pastebin.com/LnK7QqSw
Thanks a lot! Smiley Keep in mind that you can use paste.ee rather than pastebin. Pastebin usually has captcha before you can finish pasting and paste.ee doesn't that's why I use it. Wink
1576  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: December 25, 2016, 08:20:53 AM
Come show me at least one person who is not interested in the price of bitcoin? I am personally interested in the growth of not only the number of bitcoin in my purse, but also the growth of the prices on my currency.
There's actually someone in this thread that said he wasn't interested in the price of bitcoin because according to him, he just cash out and cash in bitcoins regardless of its price. If you would back read for a couple of minutes, you'll find him. I think the current price of bitcoin doesn't actually matter to the people that have their minds set that they are going to sell their coins after a couple of decades. Whatever the price before that is doesn't matter.
1577  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: December 25, 2016, 07:57:06 AM
people around my locality do not accept bitcoin as a payment but i do convert my bitcoins into my faint currecy and i do accept bitcoin so if any of them did want to exchange their bitcoin i am ready but in my country only a small number of people understands about what cryptocurrecy really is and all the rest of them has only heard rummers like ghosts
i think in most of the areas people are facing the same problems, to me in my country we have also the same situation, very little number of people knowing about bitcoin, i think we need to introduce bitcoin in our area and let people know about bitcoin so that they can start using bitcoin.
In return, what would you get? People asking you for more tutorials. You will eventually get tired of lecturing all those people around your area. Trust me. Doing bitcoins is a skill and not just something that you teach to a person and then the next day he can earn as much as you do. Just orient them about bitcoins and tell them that if they want some actual online job, then study bitcoins. Tell them to not expect anything big at first since their skill isn't that well just yet.

Eventually, you don't have to teach people anymore since they will just teach each other. It might not be that much but seeing a bitcoin community around you grow because of you is something.
1578  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: December 25, 2016, 07:47:16 AM
Nowhere has become the best place to invest bitcoin... Spending bitcoins somewhere as an investment has become extremely risky and you can end up losing your precious bitcoins. Make sure you don't invest it into some HYIP/Ponzi scheme websites or even the the ones offering you cloud mining. You'll end up with a loss. Trading bitcoin for altcoins has been extremely dangerous as well, due to constant increase in bitcoin's value.
Extremely dangerous? Did someone point a gun on you when you were trading altcoins or have someone threaten you when you converted your bitcoins into ETH? I think the right word that you should use is "risky" but not "extremely risky". You can always minimize your loss in altcoin trading by selling when you feel the market is going to drop. Plus, the bitcoin value is not constantly increasing. It's decreasing as well. Right now, we're at 865$, we were at 910$+ yesterday. I'm using this website (http://bitcointicker.co/) to keep up with the real time chart of bitcoin by the way.
1579  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin is the best future currency? on: December 25, 2016, 07:35:52 AM
Yes, most places in the world now have access to the internet, what makes people able to start using Bitcoins, creating the possibility to replace the paper money in the future. The irony here is that those people who needs more to use Bitcoins, can't use it, because they don't access the internet, the most poor people.

Unfortunelly, most people in the world, even having access to the internet, don't have interest about Bitcoins, because their life is comfortable for them and they are too alienated to have interest for it. BTC and another Crypto Currencies will have more success when the currently areas without internet start having it.
I don't think so. I'm living in a poor people area for so long and people here has a traditional economy. Meaning, they do what their parents used to do like farming and fishing. Years ago, there was no internet connection here and now that there is, people are just busy browsing Facebook and not using the internet to earn money. I'm not saying that they're using the internet in the wrong way but the fact that I have here disagrees with your opinion.

The people that has an access to the internet years ago mostly live in the city. In the city, you could earn much more than you can earn from doing bitcoin stuffs so I guess that's why they don't rely on feeding themselves by earning bitcoins.
1580  Other / Archival / Re: Updated Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns on: December 25, 2016, 04:16:50 AM
is there a signature campaign to rank below the hero member, I saw only a few, and it is also in part already full, if there is please to update, and we will be happy to follow
I can't understand what you meant by "to rank below the hero member". Did you mean signature campaigns that accept ranks that are lower than hero member? If so, then all of the "Active" ones accept Sr member and below.

But you're just at member rank so I suggest that you go with BitDouble.io. If you're not accepted, try 777coin then Bitvest then Secondstrade. If you're not accepted to any of those, you should step up (improve) your posts.
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