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2561  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did we actually really land on moon? on: September 30, 2019, 12:32:32 AM
"... their delusion is that strong."

If you believe they landed men on the Moon in a cardboard box wrapped in foil and streamed it live on TV in 1969, men who then proceeded to call president Dick "I'm not a crook" Nixon for a live interview, then I'm afraid your delusion is much, much, much stronger.

KYS faggot.




This video is generally not realistic to believe!!


Okay, I'll bite.

That video does not AT ALL look like a flag "waving in the breeze."

it is swinging like a pendulum from the top down, and the horizontal waves in the cloth do not move at all. Exactly like one would expect for a flag mounted in a vacuum.
2562  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Journey to the Mars,Elon Musk vision! on: September 30, 2019, 12:26:28 AM
With an infinite budget I do not think it would be possible to survive on mars right now or within any nearby time frame.
Then why Elon Msuk is spending lot of his funds to build this idea? He even bought that company called Spacex to make his view possible.!

He can spend his money on what he likes, but colonizing mars is probably just for publicity. Hes trying to make a commercial space program, he can make money in all sorts of ways, its as I said just a way to get attention. Most people don't know that much about Northrup Grumman, Aerotek, Lockheed Martin, etc but if they started claiming they were going to mars like Spacex they'd be a household name. There are an overwhelming number of unsurpassable hurdles to colonizing mars. If you just list them out you come to the realization that theres no way Musk actually plans on colonizing mars. Or I guess if he does, theres no way he expected anyone to survive.

We couldn't colonize the moon let alone mars.

I kind of agree here. His plans for colonizing Mars and to make it habitable is beyond the current technological comprehension. Like once he said that nuking Mars can help build an artificial atmosphere. I like Elon and I admire him but the plan for mars is kind of far-fetched.

We can send a team to Mars, and bring them back. I'd say to expect a couple deaths enroute, things happen. Colonizing takes massive robotics to do work that on Earth is done by evolution itself, so for colonizing we'd need a program of robotics and remote manufacturing well established before sending people.
2563  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump's anti-bitcoin stance. on: September 29, 2019, 01:37:43 AM
Trump could be influential when it comes to real economy.

Trump threatens the Fed daily it seems.

Regardless, the only threat to crypto currency is other crypto currencies.
2564  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: September 29, 2019, 01:18:38 AM
"The Truth About Donald Trump, Joe Biden and Ukraine"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2hxywnF3Mw

Yo kids, never watch anything started with "The truth about..."

A quick search help us to find out a bit more the author
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Stefan Basil Molyneux (/stəˈfæn ˈmɒlɪnjuː/; born September 24, 1966) is a far-right, white nationalist Canadian podcaster and YouTuber who is known for his promotion of scientific racism and white supremacist views.
Molyneux is known for his promotion of white supremacist views and for his promotion of related conspiracy theories

Man, I swear I barely shit my pants here
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Russia has already developed an alternate payment system that is more popular than SWIFT within the country.

Whoa TECSHARE keep spreading some weird shit on the forum?! Who wouldve known

When you can't argue any of the facts presented, attack the character of the one presenting it. Anyone actually familiar with his work knows that is horse shit. You might as well have just called him a Nazi bigot homophobe and ran away screeching REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

He is neither far right, nor "white nationalist", racist or supremacist. Just because far left Canadian loons are populating his wikipedia page with lies because he doesn't bow to their Marxist collectivist insanity from where you copied that from doesn't make any of those accusations true. You have no argument of your own, so in your usual pathetic form you are forced to smear the character of the person presenting the information that is completely verifiable by the litany of 3rd party sources he has provided in the video description.

EDIT: "Intel Community Secretly Gutted Requirement Of First-Hand Whistleblower Knowledge"
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27/intel-community-secretly-gutted-requirement-of-first-hand-whistleblower-knowledge/



Argument by ridicule confronts you now Tecshare, and on multiple fronts.

So you must be on to something.
2565  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why won't Pelosi let the HOUSE VOTE for an impeachment inquiry? on: September 28, 2019, 11:45:15 PM
Impeachment's polling pretty high among citizens. 44% independents. 78% democrats, 18% republicans. I think she's waiting until the number's above 50% for independents. Mind you, Nixon impeachment at the start was only polled at 18% public support.

Nixon, the man who fired his independent prosecutor.

Trump, the man who asked the Ukrainian leader to look into the firing of the independent prosecutor ...
2566  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did we actually really land on moon? on: September 28, 2019, 11:41:53 PM
... So we can say for sure if they landed on the moon, unless we were involved in that intelligence operation.

Certainly you can.

All you have to do is know some geology, and look at moon rocks under a microscope.
2567  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Green New Deal on: September 28, 2019, 11:40:37 PM
The girl is just a pawn..
If anything bad comes to her over this it is only the fault of her handlers..

She is a meme for both sides..

The funny bit is the 16 year old "pawn" is more educated than half this forum Wink

I agree.

She is more educated than the half the forum which is the ignorant, dull-witted minions of the left

Because she is drilled and rehearsed daily with the propaganda of the day.
2568  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [US Only] Impeachment Vote on: September 28, 2019, 11:38:22 PM
^^^ Or when all the people realize that they want to carry guns for protection.

Cool

There are times I have had to carry gun for protection.

But now I'm worried.

Should it have been "guns?"

Maybe so. If one is good three is better...
2569  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kamala Harris Calls For Formal Impeachment Inquiry Into Brett Kavanaugh on: September 28, 2019, 11:36:00 PM
... they should stop with the witch hunt because it has become way too obvious.

Let them pay the price of continuing with an obvious farce, then.
2570  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEE: [US Only] Impeachment Vote on: September 28, 2019, 11:30:06 PM
....(from a hacked account I might add)....

I see that ... good find! Merited!
2571  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did we actually really land on moon? on: September 28, 2019, 05:50:21 PM
^^^ The major point against the U.S.S.R. not speaking out is, U.S.S.R. leaders of that day did whatever they wanted for reasons that were often unknown.

The U.S.S.R. people had little strength back then. Whatever they said didn't amount to a hill of beans.

This means that all we heard from the U.S.S.R. leaders is what they wanted us to hear. And nobody knows if they wanted us to hear what they truly knew.

Cool
But why they didn't peak against USA who were formerly the enemy country of USSR!

Still USA convincing people that if they didn't land on moon then Russia might found out them.

You hit the nail on the head. Why did the U.S.S.R. do this or that or any of it? We won't know until we can fit ourselves into the shoes of both, the U.S.S.R. leaders, and the leaders of other countries. If we didn't go to the moon, we still don't know the reasons others didn't tell us that we didn't go.

I'm about as certain as you can get that we went to the moon. But I didn't go, and I don't really have any other frame of reference than historical records and logic. So, I couldn't get up in court and swear to it one way or the other.

Cool

Your defense is ignorance. Ignorance is bliss.
2572  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEE: [US Only] Impeachment Vote on: September 28, 2019, 05:47:18 PM
....
What evidence do you have Trump was doing anything improper? He asked for an actual investigation into high level corruption that is of international significance. Clearly he is guilty! You know what that call was about, that was Trump essentially saying to the Ukraine president:

"Look I know our nation has been corrupt as fuck and has really harmed your nation, but I am not with those guys. Go ahead and do a legitimate investigation and I will make sure there aren't consequences like the last time you tried to do this."

Interesting we shouldn't jump to conclusions about Biden, but clearly based on nothing Trump is fucked!  You keep bringing up the timeline as if it is evidence in favor of Biden's innocence, it is not. Let me lay out the order of events for you.

A very corrupt company exists in Ukraine. The government is breathing down their necks. In walks Biden who offers to fix their problem for them. Biden's son gets some down payment money for the influence peddling. Joe gets the investigation shut down by demanding the canning of the lead prosecutor of the case. In exchange his son is placed in a very lucrative position on its board, a position for which ha has zero qualifications for.

Hunter is not even qualified to work at McDonald's let alone on a Ukrainian energy firm's board. He literally wouldn't be able to get a job at McDonald's with his drug record. The only significant thing about him is the influence his daddy is peddling. All the elements of a rock solid criminal prosecution are evident. Means, motive, and opportunity.

However, I can see why the Bidens would like to get him over to the other side of the world...

Former Vice President Joe Biden’s surviving son, Hunter, hasn’t just dumped his wife for his late brother’s widow, he has squandered his family’s money on hookers, strip clubs and drugs....
“His spending rarely relates to legitimate family expenses, but focuses on his own travel (at times multiple hotel rooms on the same night), gifts for other women, alcohol, strip clubs, or other personal indulgences,” Kathleen Biden says of Hunter in the papers filed in Washington, DC, Superior Court on Feb. 23.
...
“Throughout the parties’ separation Mr. Biden has created financial concerns for the family by spending extravagantly on his own interests (including drugs, alcohol, prostitutes, strip clubs, and gifts for women with whom he has sexual relations), while leaving the family with no funds to pay legitimate bills,” Kathleen says of Hunter in the filing.

https://pagesix.com/2017/03/02/ex-claims-hunter-biden-blew-money-on-hookers-drugs/
2573  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEE: [US Only] Impeachment Vote on: September 28, 2019, 04:32:06 PM
The Ukranian brought up Giuliani, not Trump.

That's correct but I don't understand why Giuliani is involved at all... If you're doing something for the sake of national interest, why involve your personal lawyer? Obviously Giuliani was previously talking to the Ukraine president... why? Just doesn't make sense to me...
I'm sure that's an answerable question.

RE "looking for information that will put Biden in a good light" etc, the firing of the prosecutor stopped the finding and assessment of information, period. Good or bad. That's what Biden did. I have to say here that I couldn't care less if the findings were good or bad. They are related to the conduct of Biden's son, who is not a political figure. But it matters to Biden.

Why doesn't that sound "horrible?"

What evidence do you have that they are related to the conduct of Biden's son? It would appear that the investigation started prior to Hunter Biden's involvement with Burisma.....

Post #60 and... https://www.scribd.com/document/427618359/Shokin-Statement

The evidence is the sworn testimony of the fired prosecutor.

I don't know if Biden's threat to with hold over a billion in US Aid unless his son was let off the hook is illegal under US law.

Something that's gone under the radar is that in the same conversation, Trump asks the Ukranian to look into the matter of the DNC server, which he says is in the hands of a Ukranian oligarche.
2574  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEE: [US Only] Impeachment Vote on: September 28, 2019, 03:29:59 PM
''foreign leader for the favor of digging up dirt on a political opponent.'' No, we don't, nowhere in the transcript says that LOL, nothing about political dirt on his opponent.

What does this sound like to you?



He's looking for information that will put Biden in a good light?

No. He says "It sounds horrible to me."

Regardless, why is he talking to him about Giuliani? Isn't Giuliani supposed to be Trumps "personal" lawyer? If he really was looking into corruption from a standpoint of national interest, why insist that your personal lawyer meet with the president of a foreign nation?....

Huh

The Ukranian brought up Giuliani, not Trump.

RE "looking for information that will put Biden in a good light" etc, the firing of the prosecutor stopped the finding and assessment of information, period. Good or bad. That's what Biden did. I have to say here that I couldn't care less if the findings were good or bad. They are related to the conduct of Biden's son, who is not a political figure. But it matters to Biden.

Why doesn't that sound "horrible?"

What's certainly horrible is the orchestrated harassment of Trump via a fictional dossier, followed by the orchestrated harassment in the Kavanaugh hearing accompanied by a series of high questionable and outright fictional complaints, followed by this complaint about this phone call, leaked by a party who didn't even know the content but had only heard a rumor. We call that "heresay." This is a trend of consistent behavior at this point. Used to be, this was only seen in the weeks before a presidential election, when the Dems would pull at the last minute some dirt.

Now it seems to be non stop.
2575  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEE: [US Only] Impeachment Vote on: September 28, 2019, 02:56:59 PM
I just watched the video where Biden boasts about coercing them to fire the prosecutor, though.

Looks pretty damning.

The video's been out for a while though, and nobody cared about it before this whole Trump Ukraine phone call stuff came to light. I could be mistaken but it sounds like part of the condition for release of the loan was that they fire this particular prosecutor guy. We don't know if it had anything to do with Biden's son -- asserting that it did (at this phase) is pure conjecture. What we do know for sure is that Trump asked a foreign leader for the favor of digging up dirt on a political opponent.

I suppose one good thing that happened is the whole affair shed light on how rampant political cronyism and nepotism is... Seems like Hunter Biden had no qualifications to have his particular job there whatsoever, and that he was just there because his last name is "Biden." Still not a crime, but it is the most unattractive thing about Biden in my eyes thus far (other than him already being pretty milquetoast and uninspiring as a politician).

Earlier you mentioned, regarding Trump even asking or bringing up the subject of Biden, his son and the prosecutor events, that Trump saying ANYTHING is fundamentally coercive.

I have a comment on that. It's trump that when in conversation between very powerful people, there is an element of high pressure. But here we get into a realm of the grammar and tactics of "Diplomacy." There is a right way to ask someone, and there is a right way to answer (both in the positive and the negative.) These are well understood and these methods are literally thousands of years old.

There is no way that anything negative can be constructed from the conversation of Trump in question.

By contrast Biden comes across and sounds like a crude, low life gangster.

The tactic here is to accuse Trump of exactly what the accuser is guilty of. A la Sal Alinsky tactics.

I'm personally, sick of it. Lying over and over for political advantage, to a scale really never seen before. The initial Russia hoax, the Kavanagh circus, now this.

My contributions to Trump and the Republicans who have came to his party, albeit late and after his election are going to be 10x those in the past.

2576  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kamala Harris Calls For Formal Impeachment Inquiry Into Brett Kavanaugh on: September 28, 2019, 12:54:25 PM
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-impeachment-inquiry-brett-kavanaugh_n_5d8dfcf0e4b0ac3cdda72110

Wonder how long this impeachment will take? I'm guessing 3-5 year investigation.

The correct answer Is until the Republicans take back the House.
2577  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Journey to the Mars,Elon Musk vision! on: September 28, 2019, 12:52:22 PM
The private company Spacex is getting ready to move the passengers from Earth to Moon by the year 2025 and also he mentioned that they will move 1 Million people to Mars and create the first civilization of Mars along with himself.

Do you believe this will become possible in the next five year? Or just a sci-fiction story!

I am personally moved by the space revolution started by Elon. I have seen various of his vertical landing rockets. I must say he is doing a great act for humanity.

I certainly believe that he will be able to take people to Marks, but o have doubt in date and numbers.
I million people is a way too much, and by 2025 is not just very far. I certainly want this to happen but i doubt on the dates.

Vertical landing was tested and perfected by the US in New Mexico in the mid 1990s.
2578  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEE: [US Only] Impeachment Vote on: September 28, 2019, 12:47:43 PM

If the guy was fired because of pressure from the US former administration related to the VP's son's affairs, I would like to see him reinstated with full back pay.

This has been overlooked in the discussion, and yet the prosecutor does seem to be an innocent victim in these power plays.

Then again the situation may have been more complex than that and we don't have the whole story. For example  Biden may have been confronted with a coercive demand and responded with a bigger coercive demand.

This is a fair and logical viewpoint. Yes, its true none of us know exactly what happened, and its easier to make assumptions and jump to conclusions based on our own political leanings.

The way I read thing was the prosecutor was (supposed to be) fired for being corrupt and reasons wholly unrelated to Biden's son, and of course he would say otherwise in an official statement. But we just don't know the whole story at this point.
....
I just watched the video where Biden boasts about coercing them to fire the prosecutor, though.

Looks pretty damning.

2579  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kamala Harris Calls For Formal Impeachment Inquiry Into Brett Kavanaugh on: September 27, 2019, 10:43:09 PM
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-impeachment-inquiry-brett-kavanaugh_n_5d8dfcf0e4b0ac3cdda72110

Wonder how long this impeachment will take? I'm guessing 3-5 year investigation.

Everybody is already really tired of this nonsense.
2580  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Journey to the Mars,Elon Musk vision! on: September 27, 2019, 07:46:55 PM
That's not even considering the issue of peroxides in the Martian soil, which seem to be a show stopper.

But they ignore all this and push forward with their agenda.

I don't know that its an agenda, just a poorly planned unachievable goal if you take the goals and timetables literally. Anyone with any sort of capability to actually get to mars would already know its a pipe dream to inhabit the planet, but its a nice concept to get the general public interested in space.

There are numerous other pipe dreams from Musk, so that likely is the reason.There certainly are agendas. Musk has his circus-huckster approach, at the core his agenda is to sell rocket missions, primarily to government. NASA has one agenda pushed by their contractors, of finishing the SLS heavy launch system (Constellation) which would compete with Musk's heavy launch rocket.

At this time, the crew and service modules for the deep space missions exist. They have been flight tested, unmanned. The Space X heavy launch stack exists. One wonders why they can't be combined...

NASA's Lunar Gateway project is brilliant. It is a boost to both manned and unmanned missions as well as having the potential for sales of propellants mined on the Moon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Orbital_Platform_–_Gateway
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