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1601  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: April 09, 2020, 02:48:31 PM
...along came Uncle Vlad and punished theft with having a pike shoved up through your ass and out your mouth.....

I can see the logic in running the spike all the way through the mouth.

None of the people he did this to ever complained!
1602  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health Professionals and COVID-19 - PROOF on: April 09, 2020, 02:45:46 PM
someone gets shot and will bleed out in minutes
badecker tells them to go to a chiropractor and learn how to do yoga
(facepalm)

someone gets shot. will bleed out in minutes
badecker tells them to go a herbal dietician, to get a shopping list and a food prep guide. sending them home to run around a kitchen for an hour
(facepalm)

...


It's definitely an anti-scientific world view.

The chiropractor is on the scene faster than the paramedics, and saves them both with advanced paramedic-like practices that are way better than what the paramedics have..

Cool
Some people believe that anti-scientific world view. But I think there is probably a reason the US Military has "Medics" not "Chiropractors."
1603  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: April 09, 2020, 12:17:48 PM
~Snip ...9/11 silliness~

For confirmation on a nonsensical conspiracy theory debunked years ago, just use a 2007 YouTube vid
with comments disabled. What could possibly be wrong with that?

Really dude? You still haven’t let this drivel go after 19 years?
Pushed by OP.... none  other than the resident bitcointalk,
 godswill, science denying, nut job troll, BADecker?
I honestly thought you were smarter than that.


Or a plausible alternative, there is continued levels of funding by the likes of Chinese spies and propagandists (or other nations that hate America) to create continued discord on matters like this.

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Nice circular logic. The initial starting energy is actually the vast majority of the energy needed, but conveniently you pretend that is not the case. It didn't just fall, it traveled 600 feet horizontally against the effects of gravity. Objects don't fall sideways.

No, I did not. I assumed the initial starting energy was 2980 joules/kg.

And the object didn't travel 600 feet "against the effects of gravity." Like it had a magic carpet, you think?
i said diagonal. you argued it wasnt. thus you think it was purely horizontal
hense me calling you out on your ----------->
....

Technically the trajectory would be parabolic but I'm okay with the phrase "diagonal" as a loose approximate of what happens. By the time the object has been moving sideways for  several seconds it's mostly moving vertically down.

I had shown sideways velocity 11m/second. But the vertical component is about the same at the end of the first second and compounds each second.

The effect of compressed air release from each floor creating a sort of air cannon is interesting. It's a significant sideways force. Suppose a falling object gained some sideways velocity as it passed a floor that was pancaking. It would gain such a velocity component for each of several floors it passed by. That would continue until it had fallen past such floors or was too far out sideways to be influenced by such events.

Shoot air sideways, initial air velocity is high and the end result is air velocity low or zero, with eddies and swirls and a return to normal air conditions. That's the continuity equation, basic to aerodynamics. How far out wold this be? I'd guess 100-200 feet. A comparison with potato cannons would be interesting.
1604  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: April 09, 2020, 11:45:53 AM
....you just get to assume what is behind a massive debris cloud. Still doesn't explain why debris is going up and out in a ballistic trajectory.

The "massive debris cloud" is extremely easy to understand. Concrete hit the ground with something like 2980 joules per kilogram, and disassociated, turning into dust instantly.

That energy must be dissipated, by turning into heat or breaking materials or disassociating concrete bonds. Or a combination. Oh, and the typical mushroom appearance of such a cloud, which is made into a big deal here? That is hot, often very hot air rising in the center, cooling as it expands to ambient pressure, and then going down. How did it get hot? From the dissipation of the 2980 joules per kilogram, energy of PE turning into KE (heat).

There is NOTHING MYSTERIOUS about the dust cloud.
1605  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: April 09, 2020, 02:15:06 AM
..... My crazy-conspiracy-theorist theory is that the charges were built into the buildings at the time of their construction, so that they could easily be demolished whenever any proper authority wanted. And that's the nice part of my theory. The rest of my theory is that the remaining buildings still have the explosives in them, just waiting for a time when they need to be demolished.....

Yep, that's pretty crazy. How about the buildings in my town, are they wired too? Those in Moscow? Dubai? Are all buildings wired to blow? Only big ones? How about all the doghouses?
1606  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The best Coronavirus cure of all. on: April 09, 2020, 02:06:27 AM
ok let me speed you up maybe 4 years

jim humble
Quote
There are certainly times I have said some things that I probably should have said differently.
For lack of a better way to express things at the time -- or because others put words in my mouth,
in the past I have stated that MMS cures most of all diseases. Today, I say that MMS cures nothing!

Jim Humble, founder and archbishop of the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing

Of course, you are quoting out of context. Jim is simply saying what most of medicine says, that they don't cure anything. All they do is help the body to get itself into a favorable position so that the body can heal itself. Jim is truthful in this just like the medical is truthful in this.

Cool
So all these quack claims from you reduce to is something like "you BELIEVE quack claims Humble/etc said."

You are a faithful acolyte of Humble shit?
1607  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The best Coronavirus cure of all. on: April 09, 2020, 12:33:14 AM
.....
The CV cure is coming out into the open. Btw, quinine works better than hydroxychloroquine.....

Well, that's fucking nuts.
1608  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: April 09, 2020, 12:30:32 AM
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video shows it wasnt the case
you know. the video.. you know actual account of actual events.you know evidence. proof

but atleast you admit you dont know. so now you can stop guessing

Such things have a parabolic down ward path.
1609  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronvirus Easy Cure. on: April 09, 2020, 12:27:54 AM
badecker has no experience of what actual doctors do.
Or witch doctors.
1610  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronvirus Easy Cure. on: April 09, 2020, 12:07:37 AM
^^^ But hospitals and doctors aren't about healing and curing. Even if most of their staff don't know it, doctors and hospitals are about selling people on the idea of coming back, so that they get more money out of people. So, all your blab is worthless.

The real question is, when people find out through this pandemic that they don't need doctors and hospitals, and that they are way healthier if they simply follow good hygiene, good nutrition, good exercise, and good chiropractic advice, will they still come back to doctors and hospitals after a time?

Remember the old saying, "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me?" Will people be fooled twice? Probably. But if they are, they deserve what they get... more bad health from more doctors and more hospitals.


doctors top priority is DO NO HARM
this actualy does include not using treatments if the benefits dont outweigh the negatives

when you learn nothing is a miracle cure single pill. and anything can have side effects. its always best to be sure first, treat second.
as for thinking people not needing hospitals tell that to the patients that cant breath

let me guess your mother is one of them voodoo doctors that think dancing around an arizona campfire can help more than a hospital can.

absolute facepalm at you "dont need doctors and hospitals'
you have absolutely no clue about reality

Doctor's top ADVERTISED priority is DO NO HARM. If they really wanted to do no harm, they would find a different occupation. Even witch doctor would be better.

Cool
Having walked through, discussed, and learned about a Witch Doctor University in Africa, you are very, very wrong about that.

Doctors and hospitals are about one thing... follow the orders from superiors.

In the military, follow orders. With doctors and hospitals it has to be done a little more discretely... good-looking orders are issued.

The whole idea is to make money.

Cool
So you don't KNOW any witch doctors. You made up something, wrote it on the Internet, and figured you wouldn't get caught at it?

You got caught, and now you are trying to change the subject.
1611  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: April 09, 2020, 12:04:14 AM
and tvbcof's conspiracies al fall flat when there are microscope tsts, CT scans, xrays and doctors who take methodical notes because thats their job
then you take all the sick people that recover and they tell you its the worse thing they ever experienced. and then theres the ones that die through ARDS..

or.
theres a conspiracy theory made by internet blogger with no persona experience inside an ICU..

i know which one to believe.. the one with the facts and evidence not the 3rd hand theory


There are so very few of the kinds of tests you talk about, because they are complex tests, and they take a long time, and there are few people who know how to accurately interpret the results.

We need to keep this pandemic actively on the road if we are going to conquer the world.

Cool
Wait, you said it was all a lie.
1612  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Covid 19 prevention and cure on: April 09, 2020, 12:02:22 AM
If one has symptoms of covid 19 namely:

1. Scratchy throat
2. Dry throat
3. Dry cough
4. High temperature
5. Respiratory problem
6. Lose of sense of smell and taste

- quicky take hot water with lemon and drink, may also gurgle warm water with salt, as the virus stays in throat for days before going down to the lungs. (Tips from my professor, a medical expert)

Well, that's fucking nuts.
1613  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health Professionals and COVID-19 - PROOF on: April 08, 2020, 11:59:00 PM
someone gets shot and will bleed out in minutes
badecker tells them to go to a chiropractor and learn how to do yoga
(facepalm)

someone gets shot. will bleed out in minutes
badecker tells them to go a herbal dietician, to get a shopping list and a food prep guide. sending them home to run around a kitchen for an hour
(facepalm)

...


It's definitely an anti-scientific world view.
1614  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: April 08, 2020, 11:52:58 PM
You're wrong.

2-3 ounces TNT/ 2 ton beam is the resultant of the applied force, and it is simply what is required to move the beam 500 feet. The beam was moved 500 feet, therefore that amount of force was applied.

Instead of the beam being 500 feet away being the PROOF of "major explosions required" it is the very DIS PROOF.

First of all you are still basing your calculation on a 2 ton mass. The photos I provided showed an ENTIRE panel section, coming in at 22 tons 600 feet away laterally from the point of origin. That aside, you are also pretending as if your calculation was based on a perfectly efficient explosion which transferred all of its energy into the mass. Your calculation shows only the energy used to move the mass itself and totally ignores inefficiencies that happen in real explosions. Real explosions follow the path of least resistance, so the pressure wave travels in all directions, most of the energy being wasted pushing air or other debris, meaning MUCH more explosives than you got from your calculation would be required. In summary your calculation is trash.

I'm not solving your problem of trying to figure out why and how EXPLOSIVE FORCE is required and don't lecture me about real explosions. I know there was zero need for explosions for this case. That's you that believes there was that need, but you haven't proved it. You've just talked about how INCREDIBLE it was that a MASSIVE BEAM was moved 500 feet. And don't try to explain to me about inefficiencies in a spherical expansion of mass being inefficient in producing movement in just one direction. I could have thrown that formula in, but didn't for several reason.

You have several misunderstandings, the first one being attempting to shoe horn this problem into EXPLOSIONS REQUIRED. If they are required, they are, and if they are not, they are not required.

Finally, I am surprised that apparently even at this point, you do not see that the E = (KE + PE)/KG is and will always be PER KG. It does not matter that your "massive beam" is 2 or 22 tons.

But now you seem to want to talk about a 22 ton piece of metal and 600 feet of travel. So this will be not 5% but 6-7% of starting PE, energy of position. So what? It's a tiny part of the instantaneous energy.

Seriously, if you showed some big heavy thing 500 feet after a 4 story building fell down, you'd have a point. But you don't.

No explosives were needed to produce the effects seen.

1615  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health Professionals and COVID-19 - PROOF on: April 08, 2020, 06:39:27 PM
It's a LOT MORE than just one death from the shit that Badecker is promoting.
Quite a few, unfortunately.

i know. but i thought if i could atleast show that its actually a real thing happening to people in his own community.. he cant exactly just brush it off as some racial excuse of whatever lame excuse he always uses to think its not a problem where he lives.

but im pretty sure he will find some excuse to dismiss it and blame something/someone else

You and Spendy get along like two peas in a pod. You both focus on points that don't really cover what is going on. The thing Speny has over you is, he knows how to use sentences properly. The thing you have over Spendy seems to be that you are able to bring a whole bunch more of off-subject, useless points to mix things all up.

Cool
So what's the next cure that's not a cure, but which could be a death sentence for the fool that takes it?
1616  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: April 08, 2020, 06:36:45 PM
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Play the physics game if you want. ...

There is no other game.

Oh, I forgot. There is the game of the Chinese disinformation agents and spies that you push and encourage.
1617  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronvirus Easy Cure. on: April 08, 2020, 06:32:47 PM
^^^ But hospitals and doctors aren't about healing and curing. Even if most of their staff don't know it, doctors and hospitals are about selling people on the idea of coming back, so that they get more money out of people. So, all your blab is worthless.

The real question is, when people find out through this pandemic that they don't need doctors and hospitals, and that they are way healthier if they simply follow good hygiene, good nutrition, good exercise, and good chiropractic advice, will they still come back to doctors and hospitals after a time?

Remember the old saying, "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me?" Will people be fooled twice? Probably. But if they are, they deserve what they get... more bad health from more doctors and more hospitals.


doctors top priority is DO NO HARM
this actualy does include not using treatments if the benefits dont outweigh the negatives

when you learn nothing is a miracle cure single pill. and anything can have side effects. its always best to be sure first, treat second.
as for thinking people not needing hospitals tell that to the patients that cant breath

let me guess your mother is one of them voodoo doctors that think dancing around an arizona campfire can help more than a hospital can.

absolute facepalm at you "dont need doctors and hospitals'
you have absolutely no clue about reality

Doctor's top ADVERTISED priority is DO NO HARM. If they really wanted to do no harm, they would find a different occupation. Even witch doctor would be better.

Cool
Having walked through, discussed, and learned about a Witch Doctor University in Africa, you are very, very wrong about that.
1618  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health Professionals and COVID-19 - PROOF on: April 08, 2020, 04:46:37 PM
....

Coronavirus is all a lie. ...

Cool
So the Wonder Cures you have came out with to Easy Cure people with/from Coronovirus are for a disease that's a Lie?

People will get cured from all kinds of things. If they think they have CV, they will think they have been cured from CV.

Cool
So the thing that's a LIE is YOU.





,,,
need you forget the guy that lives in your very own state that died from megadosing on the very chemicals you advertise on here.
...

It's a LOT MORE than just one death from the shit that Badecker is promoting.

Quite a few, unfortunately.
1619  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronvirus Easy Cure. on: April 08, 2020, 11:37:47 AM
You have a point there. Whether it's megadose of C, colloidal silver, MMS2, H2O2, each and every thing he promotes has a commercial vendor behind it who makes big profits with false claims.


i know he lives in arizona..
maybe just maybe.. something hitting him closer to home might actually make him think twice

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/23/health/arizona-coronavirus-chloroquine-death/index.html

Licorice extract, quinine water, MMS2, drinking bleach, colloidal silver, vitamin C, hydrogen peroxide...

It'd be a full time job just keeping up with the Badecker Cures.

At least until you get sick.     Cool

I seriously doubt all those shit ideas would keep someone well until they got sick They would get him sick before he otherwise would have gotten sick But since coronovirus does not exist according to you he does not need to worry about getting sick from it.
1620  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: April 08, 2020, 11:33:27 AM
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Here you are estimating the amount of explosives required to eject a specific mass. The problem with this logic is, it assumes that 2-3 ounces of TNT transfers 100% of its force into the steel beam. Real explosives go in every direction and follow the path of least resistance. Your calculation assumes the force is all directed into the steel beam with your reverse calculation of the amount of explosive material required. Also you can clearly see you said "a section of steel beam is it's own ramp", which is just physically impossible.

Perhaps you should go back and re read what I've said.

162 joules is the RESULTANT FORCE imparted to the beam. That's the energy per kilogram that the object that traveled 500 feet actually had. About the energy of an average automobile at 30-40 miles per hour (per KG of course).

2-3 ounces of TNT is the amount that is equal to 162*2000 kg. I have no interest in ridiculous speculation of actual explosives with EXPLOSIVE FORCE being required to move MASSIVE BEAMS blah blah blah. But as I already mentioned, you tell us what TNT charge was used, and why it was required to move that MASSIVE BEAM. By all means. Just show your work at the 8th grade physics level please.

It's relatively easy to figure that out by the way.

As far as my comment 'Also you can clearly see you said "a section of steel beam is it's own ramp"'

You comment "which is just physically impossible."

Which simply means you cannot clearly see it, not that it's physical impossible. Plus, somehow here you appear to be arguing that a bunch of objects moving in one direction at varying speeds cannot interact and affect each other's direction vector. That's ridiculous. Avalanches, car wrecks, of course objects interact and impart energy and change direction of each other.

I've shown that the energy required for that sideways movement is truly very tiny, that it is a small (about 5%) fraction of total energy, that it is on a Per KG basis, that it does not matter if something is "tiny" or "MASSIVE", that no "EXPLOSIVE FORCE" from "EXPLOSIVES" is required, that there is nothing amazing or incredible about objects dropping from 300 meters winding up 500 feet away, on and on.

 Deal with it and don't be ridiculous.



So, you're saying, that all that it takes to move something sideways against its weight and other forces that hold it in place is about 2 or 3 ounces of TNT. Have you measured all the counter forces that were attempting to hold these objects in place?

We don't know that the major explosions didn't boost the objects in question up into the air in a lateral upward boost. Gravity changed the vectors so that the objects came down with hardly any sideways force applied at all... not even 1 ounce of TNT sideways.


The university jokers have taken way more forces into account than you can even imagine existed.

Cool
You're wrong.

2-3 ounces TNT/ 2 ton beam is the resultant of the applied force, and it is simply what is required to move the beam 500 feet. The beam was moved 500 feet, therefore that amount of force was applied.

Instead of the beam being 500 feet away being the PROOF of "major explosions required" it is the very DIS PROOF.

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