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2581  Economy / Trading Discussion / Anontmous money, anonymous exchange on: February 24, 2011, 04:24:44 AM
This is the last article I've wrote for the Bitcoin Weekly before resigning as the editor (leaving Kiba).

It explains in some detail how an exchange operator could run an exchange without their identity ever being discovered by their customers.

http://weekly.co.nr/index.php?q=article/anonymous-money-needs-anonymous-exchange

I think it has some merrit, and for anyone intersted would be a good business idea.

It's not something I can do due to... being in China.
2582  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin Weekly Reorganizing on: February 24, 2011, 04:21:34 AM
What exactly would being a writer of Bitcoin Weekly entail? I might be interested.

Well you write a bitcoin related article, usually technology/finance/economics/business focused.

I was paying up front for writers who got an article published but I'm not editor anymore, I think I did a poor job. I couldn't give this project the time it deserves.

No the technical thing was unrelated.

I think you managing the content managment system, if you know how might be helpful, that would save kiba from having to worry about the technical things.
2583  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Future of the Bitcoin on: February 24, 2011, 04:14:40 AM
I only wish I'd been mining for the last six months! I first started in August, generated a 100 BTC off my CPU in a week, and when I discovered that they were trading for virtually nothing, I stopped and forgot all about it. If I'd known about GPU mining, and that the value would increase so dramatically, you better bet I would have kept on mining! I'm excited to see what happens in the next six months.

The exact same thing happened to me, except it was 1000 btc that I had mined before I got bored.
2584  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin Weekly Reorganizing on: February 24, 2011, 04:10:53 AM
I will put some btc towards the cost of the host, I can also transfer weekly.co.nr to you if you would like?

Also if it's still ok with you I would like to contribute some articles from time to time, but I'm not a writer and can't do too many too often.
If you write a good article, it will be approved. Nobody seem to be capable of putting up with my insane demand for an article per week, though.

Transfer of weekly.co.nr domain is also appreciated.

OK, let me know when you have the host set up (i.p etc.) and I'll point the domain at it.

Yes you were a hard driver.
2585  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin Weekly Reorganizing on: February 24, 2011, 04:02:02 AM
I will put some btc towards the cost of the host, I can also transfer weekly.co.nr to you if you would like?

Also if it's still ok with you I would like to contribute some articles from time to time, but I'm not a writer and can't do too many too often.
2586  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: February 24, 2011, 03:58:26 AM

Money needs to be fungible to be widely accepted ... if some BTC is deemed to be "cleaner" than others then it is no longer fungible.

Of course, people shouldn't scam or steal or money-launder or sell slaves or whatever ... but it is not the job of the money to decide who is right and wrong, it is just an accounting token for facilitating trade and commerce, it is not legislature, police, judge and jury.

We need a blind signature layer so that BTC can be fungible and do a better job of being money. (Some digital sheriffs or bodyguards wouldn't go astray in this wild west either it seems ... or even a posse or two.)

Bitcoin is acting as money, it is simply that one property of bitcoin is that all transactions are public, there is a record. This is what makes it so difficult to double spend (and other bad things)with bitcoins, it is what makes it a p2p currency.

Bitcoin is so new there is nothing like it, it has some of the same properties of fiat money(cash), gold, and digital money(in real bank accounts) all at the same time. This means that bitcoins can be traced if they are not laundered.

Think of it in terms of bank accounts. Money was transfered from a number of bank accounts to one in a scam. The bank has those records(in our case the block is the bank, and the record of the transaction is in it). The person with those funds has now transfered them to an account owned by MTGOX, who is a banker. He can see these records, and decides to freeze all the related funds to investigate.

We don't have the final conclusion,decision,result. MTGOX is still investigating, and when he is done I am sure he will make a statement with plenty of details.

Because the exchanges are really the only real exit from bitcoins (and lets be honest here, scammers are after cash not bitcoins) unless you consider OTC, but I don't think anyone in #bitcoin-otc would touch dirty bitcoins, especially with someone who has no or little reputation, which a scammer would.

This puts the exchange operators in a powerful possition, they become the ones who CAN do something about stopping scammers, while most of us can do nothing. They are not obliged to act, but we can see here that MTGOX thinks this is worthwhile. If he thinks it worthwhile I would think it must be. He has my trust, and the trust of many here.

This is how we, as a community, as an economy can protect ourselves from scammers and cheaters. It is non-violent, such as boycotting, confiscation of assets that have been entrusted to society members(remember if you give someone possesion of something, you give them power over it). It is also efficient. Much more so than a court.

You coud set up an exchange, and guarantee that no such thing would ever happen on that exchange, that you don't care about the history of any bitcoins and would not stop anyone trading. But then all the scammers would flock to this exchange. And all the good users would know this, and not use it. So it would become an exchange for scammers and no one else. And they would be kept away from the rest of the bitcoin economy.

I think this is good news for bitcoin, it is showing that scammers (twice now) won't be able to get away with their crimes. That the chance of them succeeding is getting lower all the time, and the work they must do to scam is getting harder all the time. This will only make the bitcoin economy stronger and more trustworthy.

I'm looking forward to MTGOX's story.

2587  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'm intrigued by the idea of Forex... on: February 24, 2011, 03:30:15 AM
at least on mtgox you'll waste your money for good of bitcoin community as opposed to providing pocket money to some city fatcat in  case of forex

Yes, I can't imagine there are too many evil banker/traders from these big corporations using mtgox; I could be wrong, the might just be biding their time.
2588  Other / Off-topic / Re: I have an amazing product idea... on: February 24, 2011, 02:58:57 AM
That is a nice site, and a great idea.
2589  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Shorting on mtgox on: February 24, 2011, 02:57:39 AM
No I'm not serious about borrowing for shorting. I don't have the.....balls to do something like that  Undecided

Yes maybe a ripple based system could be used to manage the loans.

sgornick, thanks for that information, very intersting. I guess OTC is where the big boys play.

But I think, long term bitcoin will increase relative to USD, I just want to take advantage of short price peaks and troughs.

I reall don't think I have the nerve to borrow for shorting, at least not until I can consistently come out without a loss.
2590  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'm intrigued by the idea of Forex... on: February 24, 2011, 02:52:08 AM
If you want to try currency speculation do it on mtgox for a while. There are bots on there but as far as I know they are not the terminators you find on regular fx markets.
2591  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining Probability Calculation and market predictions. on: February 24, 2011, 02:47:21 AM
the chance of finding 3 blocks this quickly would be less than 0.1%
If there are a thousand people generating, someone's likely to have a 0.1% experience. This was your turn. Don't worry, you're unlikely to find the next three so quickly.

If you play the lottery I am sure your chance of winning is much worse than 0.1% but people still win.
2592  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Backing in-game currency with Bitcoin seems relatively easy... on: February 24, 2011, 02:43:32 AM
I could see a large point of sale system being backed by bitcoin. It would work in a similar way to mybitcoin(I know it's not  POS, what I mean is that it can process transactions between mybitcoin accounts instantly).

First thing that comes to mind is ripple, but for this you wouldn't even need ripple. Why mybitcoin could actually start doing POS right now if  they built the functionality in.
2593  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Future of the Bitcoin on: February 24, 2011, 02:40:36 AM
Ask yourself what happens to the price of gold if, the production of gold came to a halt?

Demand would be the same but supply would reducee. This means the price of gold would continue to increase as long as there is sufficient demand. It would get to the point where a gold wedding ring would be worth enough to buy a moderate family home.

This is what happens when bitcoin mining slows down or becomes too expensive or whatever.

If tomorrow no more bitcoins were being mined, the price of bitcoins would grow even quicker than it is now.
2594  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: February 23, 2011, 07:49:15 PM

My only problem with that is that I haven't agreed to let mt gox decide on such matters

Not exactly, once you deposit bitcoins to mtgox(or usd) you are essentially giving all power to him. You had better trust him. I do.
2595  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Shorting on mtgox on: February 23, 2011, 07:41:32 PM
Anyone want to lend me some BTC?   Tongue
2596  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Chinese translation of Bitcoin wiki (150 BTC) on: February 23, 2011, 07:14:05 PM
4 more pages added.

https://zh-cn.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin%E5%B8%82%E5%9C%BA
https://zh-cn.bitcoin.it/wiki/%E7%B4%A7%E7%BC%A9%E8%9E%BA%E6%97%8B
https://zh-cn.bitcoin.it/wiki/%E8%B4%A7%E5%B8%81%E5%85%91%E6%8D%A2
https://zh-cn.bitcoin.it/wiki/%E4%BF%9D%E6%8A%A4%E4%BD%A0%E7%9A%84%E9%92%B1%E5%8C%85#e.E9.92.B1.E5.8C.85
2597  Economy / Trading Discussion / Shorting on mtgox on: February 23, 2011, 06:39:17 PM
If I wanted to short BTC or USD(is there any point in shorting this?) on mtgox, how would I go about it?
2598  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Common Law System on: February 23, 2011, 06:34:05 PM
I personally think the guilty party should be required to give up their favourite goat to the victims.
2599  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: February 23, 2011, 06:32:51 PM
The question isn't so much about righting a wrong, it is about who gets to decide who did what, and what constitutes a wrong.
Don't we all have that right?

Well, if I'm holding $10,000 for you in an envelope in my house because we are trustworthy friends, and I ask you where you got the money and you say "selling widgets on the internet", and I inform you that I am against the distribution of widgets and so I'm giving your $10,000 to a charity of my choice, how does that fit into the postmodern notion of anyone getting to define right/wrong?

(Pardon the run on sentence)

Possetion is 99% of the law

rebuilder, have you read the Common Economic Protocols? It's just a big list of words or sentences that don't seem to mean anything. I'm not a lawyer so...

The only thing I did understand was we should do what we say or promise to do.
2600  Economy / Exchanges / Re: mtgox.com has blocked my account with 45 000 USD in it! on: February 23, 2011, 06:04:57 PM
(lets see, which country do I want to offend today....)  


China's a good choice for this, taking into account the recent Canada hack.
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