Fermo restando che apprezzo la completezza e la pacatezza dell'intervento qui sopra, io vorrei un attimo cancellare la lavagna e chiedere a tutti:

che vogliamo fare? cosa è meglio per noi?


Ossia, i 170 milioni ormai sono spariti, e non sara' ne' la polizia ne' l'Onnipotente e toglierli dalle mani di chi sta bevendo mojito sulla spiaggia alla faccia nostra.

premesso che, anche io se la situazione non si sblocca entro massimo 2-3 giorni (e per sbloccarsi intendo aprire i prelievi) faro' causa a Bitgrail, se non altro perche' non voglio sentirmi preso in giro e non voglio che i fondi rimanenti siano una specie di "ostaggio" , ebbene nonostante questa premessa sono certo che se interviene la giustizia tutto andra' perso da tutti. Quindi inviterei alla pazienza quanto possibile, sperando che, appunto, i fondi rimanenti non siano usati per una sorta di ricatto.

Se siano asset aziendali o meno, ormai dovrebbe essere stato appurato.

Per cui, per favore, PERMETTETE ALLA GENTE DI PRELEVARE CIO CHE è SUO

per il resto io voglio dare il beneficio del dubbio e per quanto mi riguarda quando i prelievi saranno aperti la questione sara' chiusa.

interessato anche io a conoscere l'ETA della riapertura.

Piu che altro spero tanto che la riapertura avvenga prima dell'intervento della magistratura. Lascio a voi intendere il perche'.

a chi dice che nessuno usera' piu bitgrail, beh se riapre e ci sara' spread, io continuero' ad usarlo, magari giocandomi una somma inferiore che il 40% del mio stack.

Yes but I still don't understand if this bank account will be top up with crypto and if it will include a debit card.
thanks

Probably it was a silly reason used by visa and mastercard to shutdown crypto cards.

I wanted to send merit to you but I don't have enough

I think all ppl here are interested in only one thing: will I have a crypto wallet, to convert instantly to fiat and pay/withdraw ATM (with decent conversion rates?)

thanks.

I am sending a tweet every day, no solution yet.
In addition, I now have also a missing DGB withdraw (Txid not broadcasted on chain)

I'm afraid I must stop using Poloniex

thanks man for having suggested me another useless card, another useless company who has my id cards.

you cannot top up with BTC; and of course you discover this at the end, they keep the topic very confused on website I think on purpose.

sorry but you'll never find a totally free debit card. Not in the late 2017 world, even less now.
I referred to the card itself.
yes, there are deposit fees, but at least exchange rates are better than wirex ones used to be

mistertango is free

I've not much to say.
I am so scared. I had more than 50% of my cryptos on there.
this is the final scam.

Seriously, do you really ignore that 95% of crypto debit cards worldwide have been disabled?

it's not advcash issue

yes you have to check what exchange rate is better between advcash or exmo

Unfortunately, if you have money stuck on Advcash, there is only a practical way:

1) accept some loss
2) move back your money to EXMO (EXMO code or something)
3) buy back bitcoins (better wait for a dip, exmo prices are good if you want to sell tragic if you want to buy)
4) move BTC elsewhre (kraken, gdax)
5) sell BTC for money (wait for a peak)
6) wire transfer to your bank.

advcash totally useless without theyr card. I'd not like to be one of their employees

First successful ATM withdraw: done 

Yesterday my mistertango has arrived.
Strangely on the delivery address there was the wrong town but luckyly correct zip code.
I've loaded the exchange and I discovered the 1% load fee minimum 0,0025BTC (bad thing)
Exchange rate is fair. (much better than wirex, that remains the worst ever seen)

I tried an ATM withdraw and it unfortunately failed. "service temporarily unavailable"
I hope it was only that ATM, i'll try others this evening.

same boat.

waiting for gas transferred I think 10 days ago.

of course ticket no reply.

yes, also the withdraw on credit card has been disabled, because they used the same wavecrest.

the real problem is how to extract fiat from advcash now that the mastercard is off

lol, and what are we supposed to do with money once loaded on advcash?