To put all this in perspective for all those complaining about how long things are taking. Mt.Gox filed for liquidation in 2014 and shit with that one is still going on. So settle in cause if it happens "quick", you can count yourself extremely fortunate.

Of course they will. They'll just be crappy 20-25 hour/week job but hell, they get to say they did it and say the unemployment rate went down cause they use the misleading U-3 rate instead of the U-6 one. Target has already shown what will happen. They cut people hours to balance the books. But what does it matter. It's all about votes and as long as it's a great campaign slogan the sheep will vote for them.

Because the majority these days are only interested in making money and couldn't care less about decentralization etc. Apparently they all love bending over for governments, banks etc.

It's more like he takes threads like this and crafts his own "version".

It's more than just "a few". When the people that are mods/staff/DT/Merit Sources etc abuse it in that fashion it's a problem. Not to mention all those that use it to "suck up" to those sorts.

The "spam" problem previously existed for rank, activity, bumping, sock puppet "promotion" and the like. Now merit farming has been added on top of that. So which problem do you think needs to be solved?

Rank/activity/merit is mostly related to signature campaigns. Go at the source of the problem. It's not the posters. It's the campaigns themselves that create the issue. The entire premise behind signature campaigns is to "spam" posts so people can see the "ad". There is no "solution" to the problem. As long the forum continues to allow them, there will be spam. So you either ban them outright or you limit them severely and then live with the remaining spam. Until everyone starts to look at the core problem, there can be no discussion of how to solve it.

As long as I've been here people have been crying about post spam. Nothing at all has been "fixed" with merit.

That's certainly an option but I don't see how that would help at all. They can already get banned for letting things get out of control.

You mean as opposed to giving merit cause they "agree" with it (and especially in the case of pissing matches where each side merits their sides posts) as opposed to expected use of it as "posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with". It's already a failure so let everyone go after each other with demerits.

"We can phase in a change later if we get closer to needing it."

"A higher limit can be phased in once we have actual use closer to the limit and make sure it’s working OK."

"The current threshold is 200KB per block, or about 1000 transactions per block.  I think it should be lowered to 50KB per block.  That would still be more than 100 times the average transactions per block.

The threshold can easily be changed in the future.  We can decide to increase it when the time comes.  It's a good idea to keep it lower as a circuit breaker and increase it as needed."

That's what Satoshi himself had to say about block sizes and "spam". Looks to me like he was more in favor of incremental changes as opposed to just opening it all up. So neither Bitcoin Cash or SV seem to have followed that direction. Neither has Bitcoin to be frank. But SV claiming it's the "original vision" is just laughable.

I wish everyone could demerit posts as I'd demerit this one for just being.. silly.. The entire merit system sucks. It hasn't solved the issue at all and instead has created even more IMO with people posting just to farm merit now, not just trying pad post count/activity/ It's also spawned a whole "industry" of worthless threads/posts all about compiling info about merit and discussions about it. At this point I'm starting to think this was the entire purpose. Create more "traffic" that doesn't add any value to the forum at all.

As long as there are signature campaigns that pay out money based on post counts, there will be "spam", along with a whole lot of people that are here for no other reason and add zero value to the forum at all since they rarely if ever post in any actual coin threads. Deal with the root of the problem instead of tacking on other things to try clamp down on it which in this case at least, has just added to it. Either way, I don't see any way to effectively deal with it as long as the core cause remains as is.

You've been here long enough to not be so clueless.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Spam_transactions

The network was being spammed to inflate the transactions in order to attempt to justify increasing the block size. And yes, it costs money and they were willing to do that. When they didn't get their way, miraculously they started bitcoin cash and the spam on bitcoin went away. Go figure.

Thanks for all the info. Is there any actual use for "gaps". i.e. having a record of all of them etc. I couldn't find any "tangible" use. I like coins that actually provide something, especially when I can mine with just an old computer. 3 blocks now so that's fun.

That almost always ends up killing a coin. People want a "leader", especially for others to do everything for them while they sit back and make money while crying about how nothing is happening.

That may be why I missed it. So many coming out it was hard to keep track of them all.

Yep. Just goes to show people are only here to make money.

Exactly. So many people are just naive or wishful. There is simply no reason for the price to be higher than what it costs to run and reasonably profit from mining the coin. Any time it's higher than that it's just being propped up by traders and the manipulators.

What? Are you saying they're... spamming to fake their transactions? Say it isn't so cause I need to believe!

Given all the spam that disappeared from bitcoin once the block size battle was resolved it doesn't surprise me they'd do something like that.

That's a bullshit post..

https://imgur.com/a/LOSMwi5

What alternate universe do you live in? Screenshots taken a couple minutes ago.

https://imgur.com/a/LOSMwi5

Here's a nice little read from Hal himself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0

That's right... Don't even attempt to refute but instead continue with personal attacks cause that's all you have. If the founding fathers couldn't even agree on the extent of the spending power of the congress then there's no way you can state your opinion as "fact". Lets also just ignore that the supreme court has ruled that it's constitutional. I sometimes wonder what fantasy world you live in.

By the way. The court ruled that the WH and your arguments in the other matter were bullshit. And yes, I'm well aware it will probably be appealed but I doubt the end result will be different, assuming the arguments don't change in some way that creates a "loophole" that so many of the other court cases end up getting dismissed on.

Hamilton and Madison could not even agree on the general welfare part of... "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States."

The supreme court has ruled that the government is within their constitutional right to pay for "social" type programs. Justice Owen Roberts (republican) reaffirmed that and simplified it by saying "Put simply, Congress may tax and spend."

So once again, you have some fantasy of the country you think you live in that is not held up by reality. Continue talking out your ass if you like though.

Once again you make a statement that means nothing. I provided things straight from the constitution. You provided a bunch of crap from your ass. If it was so "explicit", the government wouldn't be able to do what they already do. So once again, you're talking out your ass. You have a viewpoint of how you want to interpret things. How you think things should be run. Maybe you should go to a different country that closer fits what you want cause you're not going to get it in the US. If all you're going to do is continue to argue opinions then you're not worth having any sort of discussion with.

By the way. On the particular topic of this thread, I said no to it. Because it's not solving the underlying problem but instead is just slapping a bandaid on something in order to get votes.

That's nothing more than an "every man for himself" attitude. Nothing more than your opinion. The constitution sets out things like "to form a more perfect union", "to insure domestic tranquility", "to promote the general welfare", "to secure the blessings of liberty". The argument can easily be made that to ensure the government achieves those goals, they needs to do some of the things you outlined to some degree. This is another case where you state something as a fact when it's nothing more than an opinion.