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1201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The anonymity war is over. No one won. It is now the asset arms race. on: August 24, 2014, 09:29:37 AM
It was more an economic / social currency, in that anybody who wanted it was able to CPU mine it for free.  Later warped into this industry of have and have nots, hardware kings and corruption on the foundation.

It started as an alternative to the greedy bankers, til those in bitcoin became the greedy bankers   Lips sealed

And now all the asset exchange "coins" want to add on wallstreet, the epitome of greed.  Just goes to show that crypto is all about money now and nothing more.
1202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 24, 2014, 08:05:02 AM
The Devs left this ship you are a Baby (CloakCoin) How can your Mother (The Devs) leave there Baby (CloakCoin)
look at the volume look at the order book.. 20BTC and where are at 15k (that 1 day trading volume)

Devs didn't go anywhere.  At least tell the truth and not some other crap cause you're butt hurt over having made stupid decisions.  You've been here longer than me and yet you failed to see what happens with practically every single coin out there.  They get a big pump and then they just go down after that, some faster than others.  The charts were pretty damn clear and yet people like you turn a blind eye to your own failure to recognize reality.
1203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The anonymity war is over. No one won. It is now the asset arms race. on: August 24, 2014, 07:48:05 AM
It's all just flavor of the day in crypto.  Buy into the new hype, sell for a big profit if you're smart, or a loss if you're not, and then move onto the next one.
1204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Darkcoin - Will it rise again? on: August 24, 2014, 07:41:41 AM
Bitcoin was falling sharply and it's my opinion that a bunch of people dumped DRK, CLOAK etc in order to buy into cheap Bitcoin.

As for DRK, it's been falling steadily since it's peak and I believe it will continue on that trend until a new floor is established possibly around 300k.

wut? when you dump other coins you get bitcoin directly , there is no need to buy bitcoin

You're right, I wasn't all that clear.  Dump DRK -> Dump BTC for USD.  Buy back BTC at the new low.  DRK can also be dumped for USD directly.
1205  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I love Russia and China, fck the US A -no money just debt how invest in AltcoiN? on: August 24, 2014, 07:33:10 AM
"This guy wants to tell me we're living in a community? Don't make me laugh. I'm living in America, and in America you're on your own. America's not a country. It's just a business. Now fuckin' pay me." - Jackie Cogan (Brad Pitt in Killing Them Softly)
1206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Darkcoin - Will it rise again? on: August 24, 2014, 06:56:36 AM
Bitcoin was falling sharply and it's my opinion that a bunch of people dumped DRK, CLOAK etc in order to buy into cheap Bitcoin.

As for DRK, it's been falling steadily since it's peak and I believe it will continue on that trend until a new floor is established possibly around 300k.
1207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | XCR | Launched! | Trading started! | 100% POS | New Source on: August 24, 2014, 06:07:21 AM
Withdrew coins from Bter to Cryptsy yesterday. They have disappeared! What happened?
contact  Bter and Cryptsy. How can we help you?

Just putting here incase you guys know of any issues.

If you had scrolled up the page about 8 posts or so, you would have seen this

Status update

After an extensive analysis, we found out that one of the nodes has transmitted an invalid block which caused nodes to halt processing the blockchain. While we included handling for such events, this particular use case was not included.

Note: It's important to mention that no funds were lost as the result. We in constant contact with all the exchanges who integrated with Crypti, and will ensure the funds are attributed correctly to each Crypti account.


We still checking if this was a deliberate attack or an internal bug, that said in order to ensure such cases do not repeat, we have added a processing that will filter out this and similar types of blocks.

We will release a 0.1.5 shortly, that will resolve the current situation, and also will include an improved fork-recovery mechanism, that will remove the invalid blocks from the local blockchain storage (without the need to do it manually).
1208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 24, 2014, 05:15:56 AM
I haven't been on in a few days. I thought the devs were working it out with Cloak.

They are.  Just a lot of insecure people looking for someone to hold their hand.
1209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Determining The Economics Of A New Gaming Cryptocurrency on: August 24, 2014, 03:52:47 AM
I'd also recommend you look into an existing coin as opposed to spending time to create something else.  Your time should be spent on your core product, not split between two different things.  When people try and do that, they usually fail at both.

Regardless, have a look at Hyper.  It might be something you could use, or you could at least get a lot of ideas etc from it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624651.0
1210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 24, 2014, 03:35:31 AM
I'd rather ride out librexcoin with bob and his pumpers

Good luck to you.  Just don't become one of the bitter crybabies if you get stuck on the wrong side of the dump as you'll only have yourself to blame.
1211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | XCR | Launched! | Trading started! | 100% POS | New Source on: August 23, 2014, 03:32:06 PM
Some of those ask prices on Cryptsy are hillarious.
1212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AИN] NODE - 2n Gen. CryptoCurrency build from SCRATCH on NODE.JS - Brand NEW! on: August 23, 2014, 02:22:53 PM
keep voting on https://bter.com/voting.
I've registered there, but it requires 104 BTR to vote. How can I acquire those BTR?

You gain BTR as you do trades.  It's something like 5000 BTR per 1BTC in trades.
1213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 23, 2014, 11:49:42 AM
If I put in 10 thousand $

which one will make me 100 thousand first.

Neither.  In fact I would go so far as to say no coin will do that for you unless you get extremely lucky and happen to pick one just before it gets pumped way up which, typically only happens upon launch. Bitcoin may have seen huge gains last year due to outside forces (and dragged other coins along with it), but in general, most of these coins see a 2x - 3x pump and you're dreaming of a 10x gain.  You have to keep in mind that the price of these coins is primarily controlled by those with deep pockets.  So if you don't know what they're going to do, it's just a big crap shoot.

If you're not prepared to actually actively trade in this market, then you will have to take a big gamble on something.  Or you could just split up your bankroll onto multiple exchanges and then split that up into several coins and then buy low, sell high on an ongoing basis and make your 100k over time.  That's the only way you'll end up not losing your shirt.
1214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: bter hacked and lost 50m nxt on: August 23, 2014, 11:35:16 AM
@ChuckOne

Hacker just took the good stuff.....NXT and BTC  Grin

I was thinking the same. Cheesy

But I guess this is wishful thinking. Wink

At the time, some of the top traded coins on there were NXT, BitsharesX, XCR and then things like DRK, DOGE, LTC etc. Wouldn't have got many DRK coins I doubt given it's price. I think most people consider LTC/DOGE "dieing" so they seem to overlook them, plus again with LTC, you wouldn't have got a lot of coins.  XCR hadn't even launched it's mainnet (the theft actually delayed it) so not like he could have stole that one. So really it comes down to NXT and BitsharesX.  I probably would have went for NXT as well since BitsharesX is brand new.  If you can believe anything the hacker said, he/she did say they believed in NXT.
1215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 23, 2014, 11:21:40 AM
I'M confused. Should I buy cloak coin or should I buy librexcoin? Which one has more potential for growth?

Define what you mean by "growth".
1216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 23, 2014, 08:36:46 AM
The devs are scammers?

Children traded and lost money and so now they're calling the devs scammers.  There has been no scamming.  Just lots of theories, blatant lies and FUD so that they don't have to take responsibility for their own actions.

what pumpers are you talking about?

The coin was pumped out of the gate (no different than the vast majority of coins out there) and thus the huge rise in price.  It was pretty well known and yet people seemed to turn a blind eye to it and let their dream of riches blind them to what would eventually happen.  IMO, the same thing is happening with DRK.  Huge pump and it's been steadily going down since then including a few dumps and then market manipulation to prop it up.  It's over priced at this point IMO.

At the end of the day, never get greedy.  If you make 2x your investment, great, get out and wait for it to drop to get in again.  I'm much more cautious and am happy with 20% since 4 x 20% doubles your money.  Last couple weeks I've tripled the money I allocated to one coin as it's been rollercoastering.  Just be smart, set yourself some rules and then don't let your emotions override them.


Thank you for taking the time to respond. I am in librexcoin. do you have any thoughts on that one. Someone told me it's the next cloak. I asked what that means and they said it will see huge rises just like cloak did.

Should I trust?

Librexcoin was pumped last weekend and so it's current price is inflated IMO.  Pumpers are still actively in it and will be exiting at some point so if you've made a decent return on what you've put in, I'd recommend taking your profits and getting out and then waiting to see what happens once the pumpers do their dump.  At this point you're sitting on a pump so timing your exit will be critical.
1217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 23, 2014, 08:19:53 AM
The devs are scammers?

Children traded and lost money and so now they're calling the devs scammers.  There has been no scamming.  Just lots of theories, blatant lies and FUD so that they don't have to take responsibility for their own actions.

what pumpers are you talking about?

The coin was pumped out of the gate (no different than the vast majority of coins out there) and thus the huge rise in price.  It was pretty well known and yet people seemed to turn a blind eye to it and let their dream of riches blind them to what would eventually happen.  IMO, the same thing is happening with DRK.  Huge pump and it's been steadily going down since then including a few dumps and then market manipulation to prop it up.  It's over priced at this point IMO.

At the end of the day, never get greedy.  If you make 2x your investment, great, get out and wait for it to drop to get in again.  I'm much more cautious and am happy with 20% since 4 x 20% doubles your money.  Last couple weeks I've tripled the money I allocated to one coin as it's been rollercoastering.  Just be smart, set yourself some rules and then don't let your emotions override them.
1218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 23, 2014, 07:44:15 AM
Should I buy this coin? I know its low now, any chance it will go back up?

It's in turmoil right now.  I've felt for awhile now that the "true" price is around 30k, but with the dump to 15k I'm personally waiting for a week or two to see where things settle out once Alty is back and things start moving forward again.  Too many children trading on emotions at this point.
1219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | XCR | Launched! | Trading started! | 100% POS | New Source on: August 22, 2014, 01:13:45 PM
Please ping the address and PM me what IP you get.

Getting the same thing.  Was working when I checked it a few hours ago.

Pinging wallet.crypti.me [104.131.222.169] with 32 bytes of data:
1220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: August 22, 2014, 10:51:11 AM
bitfreak, are you f'ing your self? come back to reality. WHO THE WILL BUY THIS COIN? huh who?

Chinese ?

They already are.  That's how I found it in the first place as it's been one of the top traded coin on Bter.
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