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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 17, 2017, 05:28:13 PM
My question remains: Once I have several wallets, this number right here (the one that says 100,000 bytes) shows only the holdings of the selected wallet
how do I check the total amount of GB and blackbytes on all wallets?
GB you can check in http://explorer.byteball.org/, for blackbytes you'll need to check each individual wallet. And, after receiving them, you'll need to create a new backup.

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also is there a limit of wallets you can create? (hopefully not..?)
No.

But since you're into privacy for 60 different addresses: how would you ever use the bytes? Sending them to the same address once again links them together.

Why would I send them to the same address? I will request different addresses and make different deposits and different times. This is what everyone in BTC does for example when depositing in an exchange, you want to use an exchange that allows you to have different addresses for deposits.

About seeing the total holdings... I can't check it on the software itself? that's pretty dumb.
262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 16, 2017, 11:26:04 PM
Lol sorry my bad  Cheesy

I mean:
You have 3 wallets each with 5GB, then you get 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 + 5*0.1 = 1.5GB
You have 1 wallet with 15GB then you get 15*0.1 = 1.5 GB

So it is the same.

Sheesh... We are debating the associative property of multiplication here.
Bottom line - it doesn't matter how your coins are split in your wallet.

Apparently im not the one only that can't do math here Tongue

Anyway, I will keep generating new coins and when I run out of new addresses (by the way, the wallet should prompt you that the new generated addresses after number 20 will be the same that have already been generated...) I will keep making new wallets until I have one byteball address for reach BTC address, that will take a while buts ideal privacy.

My question remains: Once I have several wallets, this number right here (the one that says 100,000 bytes) shows only the holdings of the selected wallet



how do I check the total amount of GB and blackbytes on all wallets?

also is there a limit of wallets you can create? (hopefully not..?)

263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 16, 2017, 03:00:55 PM
I just saw that I had to click on advanced to bring up the additional options. I think this is not really an advanced feature, it should be reachable easier imo. I think people like to keep track of all the addresses they have to receive payments in a nice and ordered way. Even if you should generate a new address each time for better privacy, it's good to keep track of them, and newbies may be confused than this is an advanced feature IMO.

Why would any regular person want to see old receive addresses?   Bitcoin doesn't do this by default either.

Click on Receive and you see an address.  You can click on Generate New Address at will.
I think that blasting a screen with a lot of receive and change addresses would simply confuse most people.  I think for this reason, no wallet (that I know of) floods the screen with such addresses for any crypto by default.



It does? "Recieving addresses" is listed in the main menu in Bitcoin Core. It's also basic to use coin control feature if you want any privacy.


Also I have a problem. I have run out of newly generated addresses in Byteball. It just keeps generating the same addresses I have generated already. Looks like after address number 16, it keeps showing me addresses that I have already generated (so random ones no that 16 address list)

What is going on with this? I need at least 60 different Byteball addresses for my at laest 60 Bitecoin addresses (I didn't count them but it's around 60 that I have to sign and link to these 60 Byteball addresses)



Addresses generation complies to BIP44. Use "create a new wallet".

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0044.mediawiki

So this means each wallet can generate 16 different addresses?

But when the next distribution happens, will I get less money if my Byteballs are distributed across different wallets?

The distribution gives you a % depending on your holdings, and im worried that I will get less Byteball if my holdings are scattered across different wallets.

According to BIP44 each wallet maintains a pool of 20 unused addresses ahead of the last used address.
You can create new wallets from within your wallet (top left menu).


I see, but what about the distribution %?

If it gets divided across different wallets, will I receive less byteballs compared to holding them all on the same wallet, or you receive byteballs for the sum of all the wallets?

If you create another wallet and receive money and you have no 2 wallets, the number that shows up will show the total amount of byteballs of all wallets or individually when you select a wallet?
264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 16, 2017, 01:57:31 PM
I just saw that I had to click on advanced to bring up the additional options. I think this is not really an advanced feature, it should be reachable easier imo. I think people like to keep track of all the addresses they have to receive payments in a nice and ordered way. Even if you should generate a new address each time for better privacy, it's good to keep track of them, and newbies may be confused than this is an advanced feature IMO.

Why would any regular person want to see old receive addresses?   Bitcoin doesn't do this by default either.

Click on Receive and you see an address.  You can click on Generate New Address at will.
I think that blasting a screen with a lot of receive and change addresses would simply confuse most people.  I think for this reason, no wallet (that I know of) floods the screen with such addresses for any crypto by default.



It does? "Recieving addresses" is listed in the main menu in Bitcoin Core. It's also basic to use coin control feature if you want any privacy.


Also I have a problem. I have run out of newly generated addresses in Byteball. It just keeps generating the same addresses I have generated already. Looks like after address number 16, it keeps showing me addresses that I have already generated (so random ones no that 16 address list)

What is going on with this? I need at least 60 different Byteball addresses for my at laest 60 Bitecoin addresses (I didn't count them but it's around 60 that I have to sign and link to these 60 Byteball addresses)



Addresses generation complies to BIP44. Use "create a new wallet".

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0044.mediawiki

So this means each wallet can generate 16 different addresses?

But when the next distribution happens, will I get less money if my Byteballs are distributed across different wallets?

The distribution gives you a % depending on your holdings, and im worried that I will get less Byteball if my holdings are scattered across different wallets.
265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 16, 2017, 12:27:03 PM
I just saw that I had to click on advanced to bring up the additional options. I think this is not really an advanced feature, it should be reachable easier imo. I think people like to keep track of all the addresses they have to receive payments in a nice and ordered way. Even if you should generate a new address each time for better privacy, it's good to keep track of them, and newbies may be confused than this is an advanced feature IMO.

Why would any regular person want to see old receive addresses?   Bitcoin doesn't do this by default either.

Click on Receive and you see an address.  You can click on Generate New Address at will.
I think that blasting a screen with a lot of receive and change addresses would simply confuse most people.  I think for this reason, no wallet (that I know of) floods the screen with such addresses for any crypto by default.



It does? "Recieving addresses" is listed in the main menu in Bitcoin Core. It's also basic to use coin control feature if you want any privacy.


Also I have a problem. I have run out of newly generated addresses in Byteball. It just keeps generating the same addresses I have generated already. Looks like after address number 16, it keeps showing me addresses that I have already generated (so random ones no that 16 address list)

What is going on with this? I need at least 60 different Byteball addresses for my at laest 60 Bitecoin addresses (I didn't count them but it's around 60 that I have to sign and link to these 60 Byteball addresses)

266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Byteball a treat for your BTC privacy? on: August 16, 2017, 01:45:28 AM
Update on this: I was signing all of my BTC addresses in different generated Byteball addresses just fine, but at some point, it seems like it has stopped generating new Byteball addresses. The ones that are generated, I have already used to sign a BTC address. When I click on "Chat" on the "(...)" button then  -> "Insert my address" it always inserts the same address even if the address on the "Recieve" tab is a different one... it inserts the last one in "You also receive 0.21111 blackbytes for each 1 byte of your balance on the linked Byteball addresses, which currently are: (then the list of Byteball addresses I've used, the last one is the one that always gets pasted when I click on "Insert my address"

But anyway, this is not generating any addresses, it seems, after the address number 16, no new addresses are generated... so how do I keep linking my BTC addresses?

I want 1 different Byteball recieving address for each different BTC address I have, and I have way more than 16 addresses.

Do I need to create another wallet?

But then, wouldn't the total funds be separated between different wallets and I would receive a smaller % for the Byteball held?


Please help.
267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 15, 2017, 11:37:43 PM
Click on this:


then advanced->wallet information, at the bottom all your byteball addresses are listed.

I just saw that I had to click on advanced to bring up the additional options. I think this is not really an advanced feature, it should be reachable easier imo. I think people like to keep track of all the addresses they have to receive payments in a nice and ordered way. Even if you should generate a new address each time for better privacy, it's good to keep track of them, and newbies may be confused than this is an advanced feature IMO.
268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 15, 2017, 06:10:07 PM
Click on this:


then advanced->wallet information, at the bottom all your byteball addresses are listed.

Thanks, it's good to know that there's a way to keep track of all your recieving addresses, otherwise it would be a mess. I will try later once I get back home.


I also want someone to explain me what is the FINAL total supply after all the Byteballs are distributed. And also, for how long there will be a distribution going?

Can someone draw a graph of how the inflation levels look like on this coin?


dunno about the address bit.

all gbyte already exists. there is no inflation. it has to be distributed still. it's about halfway there.

i assume the distribution will continue changing if better ideas come along so there's no guaranteed end.

But I assume the earlier you get the more coins you get right?

I see a % of distributed coins that keeps increasing:



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    2nd round on Feb 11, 2017: 121,763 BTC linked, 1.8% distributed;
    3rd round on Mar 12, 2017: 129,139 BTC linked, 2.0% distributed;
    4th round on Apr 11, 2017: 145,441 BTC linked, 2.3% distributed;
    5th round on May 10, 2017: 207,672 BTC linked, 2.9% distributed;
    6th round on Jun 9, 2017: 453,621 BTC linked, 6.6% distributed;
    7th round on Jul 9, 2017: 949,004 BTC linked, 11.0% distributed.
    8th round on Aug 7, 2017: 1,395,899 BTC linked, 16.0% distributed.


So this doesn't look like it benefits early adopters, unless you where in the first distribution where they released 10% at once

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The first distribution round took place on Dec 25, 2016 when the network launched, over 70,000 BTC was linked, and 10% of the total supply of bytes and blackbytes was distributed. In the subsequent rounds, the total distributed supply reached 52.6%:

I see that you get some % depending on how much you are holding tho

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The rest of the distribution is split into multiple rounds and in each round holders of BTC and Bytes are rewarded. The amounts you receive are proportional to your proven balances in BTC and Bytes on the next distribution date:

    For every 16 BTC you receive 0.1 GB (1 gigabyte = 1 billion bytes),
    For every 1 GB you receive additional 0.1 GB.

I don't know, it seems a bit complicated compared to the simple approach of bitcoin where it's a predictable curve.


269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 15, 2017, 03:09:23 PM
I want to make a suggestion for the developers. Please, make a section in the wallet that lists all the receiving addresses generated.

Right now when I click on the generate address button, it creates the QR code, the new address, but the previous QR code and address disappear (even if I still own it)

I want to keep track, something like this on Bitcoin Core:



I want to bring this up again because im really confused at the way Byteball wallet works and how it deals with recieving addresses.

Why isn't there a way to keep track of all the receiving addresses that you generated? they just overlap each other when you create a new one, they don't get saved anywhere or at least I can't find the place where all the receiving addresses that I ever generated are at...

I also want someone to explain me what is the FINAL total supply after all the Byteballs are distributed. And also, for how long there will be a distribution going?

Can someone draw a graph of how the inflation levels look like on this coin?
270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: any information on the next bitcoin hardforks?bcash and legacy? on: August 14, 2017, 03:22:46 PM
any information on the next bitcoin harforks?bcash and legacy? bitcoin is getting ready for wide market adoption with Price surge and many projects


As of right now, BCash (Bitcoin Cash or Bitcoin ABC or however you want to call it) is pretty much stagnating into irrelevancy.

After this move, the big blockers will try to attack again with segwit2x in another attempt to get Core devs out and put other devs.

I suspect it will be a non event and miners will not follow the NYC agreement, but if they do, expect a big price crash, after that, BTC will recover, segwit2x will not happen, or it may happen and end up just like BCash.
271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 14, 2017, 02:24:40 PM
I want to make a suggestion for the developers. Please, make a section in the wallet that lists all the receiving addresses generated.

Right now when I click on the generate address button, it creates the QR code, the new address, but the previous QR code and address disappear (even if I still own it)

I want to keep track, something like this on Bitcoin Core:

272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Qtum VS NEO on: August 14, 2017, 12:37:24 PM
Seeing a upside in both, but the hype about "The Chinese Ethereum" in NEO may cool of soon. QTUM is as much "The Chinese Ethereum" as NEO is.

Qtum to the moon

Not only NEO is marketed as "The Chinese Ethereum", QTUM is also a sort of "The Chinese Ethereum" like you said, but wait for it... this coin named "Asch (XAS)" was also a "The Chinese Ethereum" back when I heard about it a couple of months ago:

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/asch/

This should tell you how these coins will end... looks like all they have is the "this IS The Chinese Ethereum" hype, and when that hype dies off so does the price.
273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Byteball a treat for your BTC privacy? on: August 13, 2017, 05:56:40 PM
I remember reading about Byteball when I installed it that it may be a Russian Intelligence creation in order to track link addresses between themselves, so yes, it may be a threat to your privacy.

That sounds interesting. Where did you get that from? source, link etc... sounds like a nice conspiracy theory but I will need more than that.


And I wonder about all those people who have been linking their btc addresses to byteball and need to change it now because they had to move their btc's to another wallet because they wanted to set their bitcoin cash free. It can all be tracked throught the linking steps in byteball... makes me a bit nervous.

I don't understand your problem. As long as you control the private keys during the airdrop to get the Byteballs, it's all you need.

Once you get your Byteballs, you can do anything you want with your BTC addresses.

My problem was that since I didn't know how to link several addresses, I assumed that you needed to send ALL of your BTC to a single BTC address, then link that address to a Byteball address, and that is a big mistake for your privacy's sake, since you should be linking the addresses separately. If you recieved  BTC in 100 different BTC addresses, then you must link these 100 BTC addresses separately, to a different Byteball address each time. It's annoying but there's no way out.

You can link your BTC addresses at just one Byteball address, at least for me that's what I've done.

Yes, you can do that, but think about it: You are just ending up with the same problem but in the other end.

You could check here

http://transition.byteball.org/
https://explorer.byteball.org/

and then see that a bunch of different addresses all belong to the same Byteball address, which obviously means it's all the same person.

What you want is one BTC address for one Byteball address. So if you got 100 BTC addresses, you need 100 Byteball addresses, which is why I said Byteball wallet should have a list of all your receiving addresses, to keep track of them and know that you own these addresses, just like this:



I have no idea why Byteball doesn't have this.
274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Byteball a treat for your BTC privacy? on: August 13, 2017, 04:28:58 PM
I remember reading about Byteball when I installed it that it may be a Russian Intelligence creation in order to track link addresses between themselves, so yes, it may be a threat to your privacy.

That sounds interesting. Where did you get that from? source, link etc... sounds like a nice conspiracy theory but I will need more than that.


And I wonder about all those people who have been linking their btc addresses to byteball and need to change it now because they had to move their btc's to another wallet because they wanted to set their bitcoin cash free. It can all be tracked throught the linking steps in byteball... makes me a bit nervous.

I don't understand your problem. As long as you control the private keys during the airdrop to get the Byteballs, it's all you need.

Once you get your Byteballs, you can do anything you want with your BTC addresses.

My problem was that since I didn't know how to link several addresses, I assumed that you needed to send ALL of your BTC to a single BTC address, then link that address to a Byteball address, and that is a big mistake for your privacy's sake, since you should be linking the addresses separately. If you recieved  BTC in 100 different BTC addresses, then you must link these 100 BTC addresses separately, to a different Byteball address each time. It's annoying but there's no way out.
275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I am now almost a billionaire because of Vitalik on: August 13, 2017, 02:27:21 PM
I've been following Vitalik's advice for a couple years now and I am now close to being a billionaire in FIAT worth because of Vitalik

Thank you Vitalik I like Crypto

Disclaimer: there is still some left for me to become a billionaire but I am on the way

Even if I don't like Ethereum and still think it's basically a scam because of the way it was launched, and because of the dead end they are at and nobody is admitting they don't know how to scale it (and it has bigger problems than Bitcoin to scale by the way..) it would have been awesome, lifechanging, if I only invested 1 BTC when it was worth cents, but who know this would happen?

Same goes for NEO. Who knew it would go from cents to $40 if it's just a Chinese knockoff?

So many chances to get rich in this sector but needs some luck too.
276  Economy / Speculation / Re: Upcoming Global Financial Collapse and following World War 3 driving up Bitcoin? on: August 13, 2017, 12:21:49 PM
With all these signs and symptoms on TV showing a possible Global economic crisis coming soon around the corner and fears of high tensions of World War 3 is this driving up the bitcoin price to All time highs?

Neutral currencies (and there aren't many beside Bitcoin... because alts are mostly a joke) would in theory go high, very high, in periods of global disturbance.

Since Bitcoin doesn't depend on any country, it is a neutral safe haven, similar to gold. Bitcoin is performing awesomely, while Gold is underperforming. Gold should be going up right now. The Trump-Venezuela-North Corea stuff is scary, Gold should naturally go up, but looks like more and more people are choosing Bitcoin, because when it's all said and done, you will need to run away from your country, and you can easily run with your Bitcoins, but you can't cross borders carrying Gold, so Gold is useless. Bitcoin will go to 1 trillion, then 10 trillion marketcap as Gold deflates.
277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Byteball a treat for your BTC privacy? on: August 12, 2017, 11:10:35 PM
step 1: you start up the chat with that specific chatbot.
step 2: you give it your Byteball address which you want to receive the giveaway in
step 3: you give it your Bitcoin address which has a balance
step 4: you sign a message with your bitcoin address. message is your byteball address

here is a help to sign messages using bitcoin keys: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0

want to link a new bitcoin address?
step 5: you give it your BTC address
step 6: you sign a message (similar to above)

want to link a new bitcoin address to a new byteball address?
step 5: you give it your new byteball address
step 6: you give it your BTC address
step 7: you sign a message (similar to above)

edit: it is a chat bot, and it is pretty clear. don't over think it. for example it clearly says something like "give me your bitcoin address now" and after you give it, it says "ahhh this is your bitcoin address, now send ... to ... OR sign ..... message with your key"

I see, so I need to do this step:

"step 5: you give it your new byteball address"

If I enter a new Byteball receiving address in the chat to the bot, it will ask me again to enter another BTC address, I enter it, verify it by signing it with the Byteball address, then he will tell me "you will receive X GB"

then I do it again and again after I get every single BTC address I own signed.

I will try later when im at home. But I have a question: How do I keep track of all the addresses I have verified? I mean yeah I can look at the chat history but its a bit of a mess.

They should create a tab that shows everything nicely tidied up in a list, with all the signed addresses, and also used Byteball receiving addresses like on BTC wallets, because in Byteball, when I generate a new receiving address, it supplants the previous address, so I don't know what were the previous ones. Let us have a list of receiving addresses so if we want to check something on the blockchain (I know Byteball has no blockchain but you know what I mean) then I can quickly find the address and check what I did with that address.
278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Byteball a treat for your BTC privacy? on: August 12, 2017, 03:16:27 PM
I was able yesterday to pick up some Byteball in the distribution period, but when I tried to add different bitcoin addresses, I couldn't. If I clicked here:

https://byteball.org/

where it says "Chat with the Transition Bot", after signing the first BTC address, if I tried to click there again to re-start the process and enter other addresses, I couldn't do it.

Do I really need to send my entire BTC wallet into a single BTC address? why? doesn't anyone else see how this is a big problem when it comes to privacy?
There is no point to title the thread as if ByteBall is trying to steal your BTC. If you are not comfortable with what they are saying, just stay away from the airdrop rather than causing panics. The ByteBall team have made name for themselves since the beginning of the airdrop to have been a model compared to others in all this. But at the same time, everyone does not need to believe in them outrightly.

Read again. Im not saying ByteBall is trying to steal your money. I think ByteBall is awesome and some of the few coins that actually bring new value into the table and never seen before tech, all im questioning is the way the coins are spread to owners, because it requires you to link all of your BTC in a single BTC address, unless someone can explain me how to sign several different BTC addresses because I can't do it and I can only find tutorials where they do one address and they don't try to add additional different ones:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zTuzZNzEd0

So can anyone tell me how to sign and verify different addresses?
279  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Sign Raised Again at the DOTA 2 International Tournament on: August 12, 2017, 02:18:55 PM
The buy bitcoin sign was risen up again at the Dota 2 global Tournament  , the sign was raised by a member in the crowd amid declarations of the broadcast occassion.

Continue Reading => https://zycrypto.com/bitcoin-sign-raised-dota-2-international-tournament/

This will become more and more common, as people learn how getting your bitcoin QR code go viral on the internet can make you a ton of money.

That guy that held the "buy bitcoin" sign during the Yellen speech, also uploaded his bitcoin address and he has received a ton of money.

Some guys in big stadiums also held their QR codes during football matches etc and the camera aimed at them and they received donations.

It is a fascinating and new thing that couldn't have been done before bitcoin and will only get bigger as more people catch up with the new bitcoin reality.
280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FILECOIN, biggest ico ever! on: August 12, 2017, 11:45:38 AM
https://www.coindesk.com/200-million-60-minutes-filecoin-ico-rockets-record-amid-tech-issues/

Update on filecoin. The biggest ICO ever!

I started to listen about it by Cedric Dahl oh his youtube channel. It could be one of the future leader in the crypto mcap ranking.

here is a good point of view about the ico and the potential and risk of this coin.

Now we have just to wait it on exchanges to see if it will drop a bit under the ico price as other big ICO have done  Grin Grin

Can you give a brief explanation of what Filecoin is? What is the purpose?

Of course I could research it, but for the sake of the other readers of this thread.

Most ICO end up getting dumped... what is different about this one?

"Filecoin is a data storage network backed by an application token."

I don't see how this is any different from other attempts to make this possible such as Storj. Why is this getting so much attention if we already have similar solutions? It sure has a catch, otherwise I don't see how this broke a record of the most sold out ICO ever. Where is the innovation at? because if there is no innovation, this must be a marketing job going on..
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