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2621  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coinbase hodling the coins forever on: August 14, 2021, 02:54:00 PM
I know we're supposed to hate Coinbase, but compared to the rest of US fiat banking system - and let's face it, the main reason to use Coinbase is for its fiat services - I have found it to be not significantly worse or better in my 7 years of using it, at least not worth doing KYC again to switch to some other exchange. Here's the good part: Coinbase is under purview of CFPB and if you have a well-documented case they will grill Coinbase until you get your money back. That's where I would go instead of Twitter or Reddit.
2622  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2021, 02:22:05 PM
Oh wow he really did that? What a dickhead. I thought he sounded like a bullshitter.

Well, it's clear even from his own grossly embellished numbers. If he claims that $1000 (which he took in bitcoins) in his "investment" returned ~ $1.3 million, but $1000 hodled in Bitcoin since then would be worth ~ $4 million now, he clearly lost investors' bitcoins. This is kinda like shitcoining, which also tends to take your bitcoins and then claim USD "profits", except his shitcoin doesn't even have a blockchain, can be bought and sold (sort of) only on his site, etc.
2623  Economy / Securities / Re: 📈 NastyFans: The Bitcoin Enthusiast Fan Club (est. 2012) on: August 14, 2021, 03:02:34 AM
For some reason OgNasty is too shy to post his newest fantasy ROI calculation here, so I'm gonna help him out. You will all be very happy to learn that your NastFans investments appreciated > 1000-fold.

1000$, invested 10 years ago in various assets:

https://c.radikal.ru/c41/2108/6b/8b6e433cae56.png

Those who claim that it is better to invest in gold than in bitcoin will be especially pleasantly surprised. Grin

Very interesting image.  Thanks for posting as it shows just how even the best of investment opportunities in the world appears to be trash next to Bitcoin!  It made me do a little calculating and see what the value of $1,000 would be if it were invested in the NastyMining IPO back in June of 2012.  The result, $1,000 invested in NastyMining would be worth $20,136.36 today.  Additionally, you would have received $1,331,098.23 in BTC distributions at their current value.  That makes a current total of $1,351,234.59 gained from a $1,000 investment in NastyMining (now NastyFans.org) in less than a decade if you never sold or spent your distributions.

Even with turning $1,000 into $1,351,234.59 over the last decade, there are still users who complain and have even left me negative trust for speaking this factual information.  Let that be a lesson to you...  Don't judge your success by what you hear from the peanut gallery.  The more amazing your accomplishments, the more hate you will receive from those watching from the sidelines.  That's just how miserable people react to the success of others.

That BTC return in a decade is amazing no doubt.

EDIT: Oops, this data doesn't include the BTC distributions that went out before GLBSE was closed...  I'll have to locate that and update this post as the real return will be significantly higher with that data included.
2624  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2021, 02:55:54 AM
That makes a current total of $1,351,234.59 gained from a $1,000 investment in NastyMining (now NastyFans.org) in less than a decade if you never sold or spent your distributions.

Nice attempt at gaslighting, you spamming little shit.

Here are the facts. You collected bitcoins for an investment, and you repaid fewer bitcoins. Despite the obvious loss, you claimed 100%+ ROI in dollar value, even though you never collected dollars. Now you're taking this even further and assigning today's dollar value to bitcoins that you repaid, and original (2012) dollar value to bitcoins that you didn't repay, to further embellish your imaginary profit.

But hey, some people in this thread believe in lizard conspiracy so your spam might work. Good luck.
2625  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Americans will burn in hell for eternity on: August 14, 2021, 02:27:43 AM
But you don't know that dead people don't exist spiritually. And the reason is, that it's so much fun blabbing on Bitcointalk, that you never take time to work it out that you really have a spirit.

I have lots of grape-based spirits in my cellar. That's not proof that hell exists, try harder.

2626  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 14, 2021, 12:07:32 AM
don't even understand what Bitcoin is

Please tell us that Bitcoin is not money.
2627  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 13, 2021, 08:19:37 PM
Notice how Bitcoin sneaked in that long green dildo right after ChartBuddy posted the hourly chart. I knew they're both in on it.
2628  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 13, 2021, 08:14:10 PM
WHAT'S HAPPENING!?!!@!!!

Did Elon say something? Are we friends with him again?
2629  Other / Meta / Re: We need a new global moderator. on: August 13, 2021, 08:12:11 PM
The issue with re offending users is likely because a limitation to SMF. Moderators can't see if a user has been reported or had x amount of posts deleted recently, unless they manually check via the modlog. On a very busy day of handling reports, a moderator might see several hundred, and at its peak of reporting probably thousands of reports a day, and therefore potentially thousands of users. Now, because of the way reporting, and the report queue works, multiple moderators might be dealing with those reports at the same time, and therefore that's where the consistency might be lost.

That's why I think a regular of the board who can proactively keep it clean with some help from user reports would be better than having global mods taking care of mod-less boards on a 100% reactive report basis. Someone who is actually hanging out there would know immediately who's truly disruptive and who's just occasionally trolling.

And all this talk about numbers... it's not really a math thing. Someone can have 100 posts deleted out of 1000 and still be a valuable member. Shit, someone could have 15 out of their 20 first posts deleted if they didn't know some obscure rule - which by the way is not an easy thing for a newbie to figure out but that's a whole different discussion - and they could still be a valuable member, just may need a little nudge in the right direction. Mod discretion FTW.

What gets my goat is persistent willful spammers and shitposters, who take enormous numbers of reports to get even a temp ban.
2630  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Americans will burn in hell for eternity on: August 13, 2021, 07:37:33 PM
Keep telling yourself that hell does not exist.

Why? There's like gazillions of things that don't exist, it's stupid to waste time even thinking about it, unless it's a really good Sci-Fi movie or something... and hell isn't even that.

Maybe that will help you cope with the pain when you are down there burning.

There is a bit of a flaw in your argument. I can't be someplace that doesn't exist.
2631  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Six people killed in mass shooting in Plymouth, England on: August 13, 2021, 12:24:08 PM
I feel like some reporters are way too quick to default to the easy "explanations", oh look he was a Trump supporter, or he posted on incel sites or whatever. Usually it's far more complicated than that. For someone to kill people, to kill children, the person has to have serious mental issues. We'll have a "nocoiner who sold at $10k" rampage one day and we'll all be implicated once they dig up our Bitcointalk posts deriding that person.
2632  Other / Meta / Re: Question for ignore on: August 13, 2021, 11:38:16 AM
Someone who quotes your ignored user might have an otherwise useful post. It would be nice to have the quote of the ignored user to be collapsed (and while we're at it, collapse/reduce wall-quotes and large images too) but hiding the whole post would be too harsh IMO.
2633  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 12, 2021, 11:56:02 AM
It's not cold. Though I wouldn't have thought that would have hit any kind of limit. It's also an area where codes are generally not so severe. Though I should definitely run a quick check. The main reason for going with the size of the neighbor's shed was it looked like a good size and is proportionate to the land area.

> 200 sq ft is typically the size where permits and frost-proof foundations come in but I'd suggest to check the code regardless of size because your neighbor is definitely going to snitch on you Grin
2634  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 12, 2021, 02:26:34 AM

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.20.21260795v1.full-text

Quote
Methods
January 6 through May 31, 2021, 5,121,436 US adults completed an online COVID-19 survey.

(emphasis mine)

Maybe infofront should do a survey here asking "Are you a PhD", to help you understand how this works.
2635  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 12, 2021, 01:34:35 AM
I was thinking of just going with concrete pylons and wooden posts. Would you advise against?

Have you checked your local code? You might not have a choice for the size of shed you're planning if you're in a cold climate.
2636  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Americans will burn in hell for eternity on: August 12, 2021, 01:20:52 AM
I guess it's a good thing that the hell is not real, sounds like they dodged a bullet here.
2637  Other / Meta / Re: We need a new global moderator. on: August 11, 2021, 11:19:21 PM
If I were in charge - that's a scary thought, isn't it - I would probably appoint a couple of moderators to each of those underserved boards. For example nutildah and DireWolfM14 for P&S, LoyceV with o_e_l_e_o for BD/Press, dkbit98 and Lucius for Croatian boards, mainly to punish them all for complaining so much Smiley but also to give a bit of a proactive push to clean those boards instead of waiting for reports, which could be a good deterrent without banning. And I'd hope that having two mods work out some sort of agreement between them could help with the inevitable bias accusations and moderation complaints. If they start slacking a year or two from now, pick someone else from active users.



2638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 11, 2021, 10:14:03 PM
Well this isn't going to turn into a massive shit show as its never the second guy who gets caught. And no refs are going to use this to manipulate games either.

That's what happens when participation trophy generation grows up. We'll be soon handing out SB rings to everyone.

According to the opinions expressed by the members of the league it seems the weekend is the most popular option to conduct the draft, wheelz has some problems with it but they stated they can make it Saturday night, so what do you think about conducting the draft on September 4th which is a Saturday between 7PM to 10PM EST?

This is not definitive obviously, I am just trying to get the ball going and see if we can finally agree on the date and hour the live draft will take place. Smiley

I'm fine with that time.
2639  Other / Meta / Re: We need a new global moderator. on: August 11, 2021, 10:05:11 PM
How exactly are my other comments abusing the trust system?

Speaking of reading, I didn't say you're abusing the trust system. I said "misusing", which is a weaker word than "abusing" in this context and can include unintentional usage, whereas abuse is typically intentional. However if the shoe fits feel free to wear it.

Anyway, those ratings are soft negatives, and putting such a chickenshit label on a user for expressing their opinion is a dick move, totally incompatible with your declarations of "[encouraging] everyone to have a well-reasoned debate" and "[making] well-reasoned counterpoints". This is the intertubes equivalent of throwing a rotten egg at your opponent and running away when you lose the argument.

But hey, if those are the qualities theymos is looking in moderator candidates, you're definitely a frontrunner.
2640  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Largest DeFi Hack: $611 Million Stolen from Poly Network on: August 11, 2021, 05:27:30 PM
Disclaimer: tinfoil hat applied!
What if they tried to do the "hack" themselves but when the enthusiasm evaporated and they saw the whole world is starting to take an interest they chickened out and abandoned it?
After all, it's the crypto world we're talking about, it woudn't surprise me one bit.

This tinfoil theory was brought up in WO... I find it unlikely to be an inside job. Technically those shitcoiners don't have the keys. And the code is public, for better or worse. In this case I think it's even open source so no disassembly required. To implement a backdoor in it would be very difficult and risky. But a dedicated nerd finding a flaw and making use of it (calling it a hack or an exploit is a bit of a stretch) would be quite plausible.

At any rate, it's not like this happened on some "code is law" "be your own bank" chain. Vitalik Rollback Buterin will surely help them out, no?
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