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1701  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: February 04, 2022, 04:03:38 PM
How do we even know that? How do we know they didn't have duplicate entry for Covid associated fatalities? The mortality data for Covid is published by the CDC, an entity that is already criminally suspect at best.

The CDC doesn't create the data. It collects data from states. If there was any significant discrepancy in the way you're suggesting, it would be very obvious.

Yes, I know your next argument (being very generous here) would be "how do we know that" states and funeral homes and doctors aren't all in on the conspiracy.
1702  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 04, 2022, 05:24:50 AM
It's not their fault that they are tempted by the incentives... ... so in that regard, you did make your point that they are probably not NOT capable, but instead cannot resist taking other people's money (if that was meant to be part of your point?).

Wait, I had a point? Grin

Well, if I did it's that shitcoiners are quite capable at shitcoining, which is mostly various elaborate and deceptive ways of separating wannabe shitcoiners from their hard earned bitcoins and fiat.


1703  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: February 04, 2022, 05:02:01 AM
non-COVID tests and checkups were delayed and people died from other causes, which were not detected in time.

There might have been some of that but it wouldn't match the COVID-19 numbers and waves if there was a significant increase of deaths elsewhere.

At any rate, mortality data is publicly available (e.g. on the CDC site) so you should be able to find such anomalies if they exist.
1704  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: February 03, 2022, 10:16:21 PM
Comorbidities don't make the numbers false.

Actually they do, if you misreport the actual underlying cause completely wrong to boost the numbers. Slap a Covid positive test on nearly every death, and then death by Covid arbitrarily becomes "the defacto reason".

Again, the numbers couldn't be "boosted" without creating a mismatch with excess deaths, and there is no such mismatch so your hypothesis here is fundamentally incorrect.

Again, take a look at the excess deaths and try to explain that away without resorting to fallacies. Number of excess deaths in 2020 in the US was actually higher than the official COVID-19 death count so if anything the COVID-19 numbers were possibly under-reported.

Well, we didn't have all those people taking the Covid vaccines in previous years. And suicides, overdoses, homicides, etc. were way up too. So....lol.

LOL indeed - there were no COVID vaccines in 2020. And I doubt that "suicides, overdoses, homicides, etc" were reported as COVID-19 comorbidities to any significant extent but feel free to prove otherwise.
1705  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: February 03, 2022, 07:52:47 PM
You mean kinda like claiming that 385,000 deaths in 2020 were caused by Covid infection is false, because 94% of them had 1-4 comorbidities?
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf

No, not "like". Comorbidities don't make the numbers false. For example among some types of cancer, deaths come with 80%+ comorbidities. That doesn't mean cancer deaths are overstated. People die with otherwise manageable chronic conditions because cancer (or COVID-19) kills then, not because those comorbidities suddenly for no reason whatsover kill them. Same when people die of conditions caused by cancer (or by COVID-19, such as pneumonia). It's still cancer (or COVID-19) that killed them.

There is always a margin of error but it's nowhere near 18000 vs 9 and it may go both ways, so not "like" at all.

Again, take a look at the excess deaths and try to explain that away without resorting to fallacies. Number of excess deaths in 2020 in the US was actually higher than the official COVID-19 death count so if anything the COVID-19 numbers were possibly under-reported.
1706  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: February 03, 2022, 05:09:31 PM
1. It can detect patterns of adverse events, but can not be used to to determine if adverse events occur? This is GIGO (Garbage in, Garbage out). Either the entire system is useless, or the data is valid (mostly valid? whatever sliding scale you'd like to use) => may, or may not be valid...

It's not all or nothing. There are uses for the data but not for determining the number of deaths caused by the vaccines. The disclaimer quite clearly describes the data being used by CDC as signals for further investigation.

2. The statement "VAERS shows 18,000 people died" is a true statement. Did 18,000 people actually die? Maybe; maybe more, maybe less. VAERS is limited, but that doesn't make it inherently false.

Being not fit for a certain purpose doesn't make it true or false. It's just not fit for a certain purpose. However claiming or implying that VAERS shows 18,000 deaths caused by the vaccines is false, because VAERS doesn't and can't show such a thing.

Has anyone with access to the Gov, updated version invalidated the claims made by "conspiritards"? Or do you use a blanket statement that contradicts itself to "debunk" it? The updated data is there, why hasn't it been shared?

Except it has been:

As of January 27, 2022, more than 18.1 million doses of the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine have been given in the United States. [...] identified nine deaths that have been caused by or were directly attributed to TTS following J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccination.

That's out of ~12000 (not 18000) reported to VAERS.
1707  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: February 03, 2022, 04:28:28 PM
It's almost as if distancing and masks may slow the spread of some infections.

But yet had zero effect of slowing the spread of Covid during the same period. Quite odd.

You forgot to supply the data or even a screenshot from twitbook.
1708  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: February 03, 2022, 04:17:51 PM
I guess we will never know, because the tracking of that other thing suspiciously dropped off the charts.

It's almost as if distancing and masks may slow the spread of some infections.

And if you had bothered to pay attention, you would have seen that the projected number of deaths has seasonal spikes including the flu from previous years, and excess deaths are above that. I know that you can't verbalize your own statements so perhaps you meant to say that there is no COVID but there is a very bad strain of flu going around?
1709  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2022, 01:33:08 PM
Mate, you are just drawing lines.. what pattern can you see, i see a triangle with a missing side, one pair of red chopsticks, one shorter pair of red chopsticks.

You are just drawing lines to fit your narrative..

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1710  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Covid-19 booster on: February 03, 2022, 01:06:36 PM
Latest data from my country:

10 000 cases daily. Among them 7k will be vaccinated, 3k unvaccinated. I am from a small country, where daily from covid dies 30-40 people. According to stats among fatal outcome, every third or fourth was vaccinated.

These numbers are meaningless. Do yourself a favor, find numbers per capita by vaccination status, better yet if it includes age group as well.


1711  Economy / Speculation / Re: Second Largest DeFi Hack Ever on: February 03, 2022, 12:55:31 PM
I swear these EthTards just can't code!

I wouldn't be so harsh on them. Given the massive incentives for them to get "hacked", some of them can probably code well enough to implement subtle bug-shaped backdoors.
1712  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: February 03, 2022, 12:34:34 PM
I don't know, I don't want to get too conspiratorial either, but the other day I saw Rand Paul talking about the same thing: that the statistics had been inflated by including as Covid cases and Covid deaths completely asymptomatic people who had been admitted to hospitals, etc. for other causes.

Excess death numbers matched or exceeded reported COVID-19 deaths throughout 2020-2021, and also matched the spikes. This means that if COVID-19 numbers were inflated, these people still died of something that they wouldn't have died of otherwise... so is there another pandemic that we don't know about?

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1713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: February 03, 2022, 11:59:56 AM
@suchmoon. Agreed. Washington Natives might be a better team name hehehe. They keep the team’s identity and also avoid to be offensive.

In any case, I liked the team name when they were calling themselves the Redskins. However, is that term redskin really offensive, almost similar to calling African American people a n?

Not for me to judge what's offensive to someone else, but I always found the Native American themed team names weird to the point of cringy among other teams named after animals or abstract concepts. Never sure if the idea was to imply that "Indian" is a type of animal or a made up thing.

Keeping with the animal theme, Kansas City Cocks should be the next NFL name change.

Would the Cleveland Indians also need to change their team name?

https://www.mlb.com/news/cleveland-indians-change-name-to-guardians
1714  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: February 03, 2022, 01:08:32 AM


I liked "Football Team" better. "Commanders" being losers will be cringy.
1715  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: February 03, 2022, 12:11:10 AM
lol and yeah the QB's are getting closer and closer to be untouchable, literally

Let's make it like this:



... for QB's only, and when their flags are pulled they're "dead" - can't play until the end of the game. That should spice things up.
1716  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 01, 2022, 07:43:51 PM
Haha... hilarious... btw wasn't it a little bit too loud too? Or bearable? Could you hear it humming from your room?  Cool

Noise suppression stuff (also mostly repurposed from weed growing equipment) was one of the first things to get installed along with cooling. The sound didn't completely go away but turned into sort of a mellow white noise that didn't travel far.

Having said that, noise was a significant factor in choosing mining equipment. It's much harder to solve than e.g. heat or power, since it doesn't neatly follow ducts and wires. Sadly Bitcoin ASICs these days are nearly impossible to use at home, even underclocked.
1717  Other / Archival / Re: Should the link to the source be visible or should it be present? on: February 01, 2022, 07:20:37 PM
Examples 1, 2, and 3 are not plagiarism.

Technically true, at least on this forum. 3rd example is very sketchy though. I can't think of any good reason to do this. Since the person doing this is would be most likely already aware of how plagiarism is treated on this forum, they should just put in a proper link/quote and not run the risk of moderators misinterpreting it. For example, what if the link is dead and moderator doesn't realize it was supposed to be a link to the source of the text and not some random link about the underlined word?

And for a casual observer who doesn't want to click links it's not really obvious that it's a source link for the entire following paragraph (or multiple paragraphs? where does it end?), therefore the user who posted such a link may be incorrectly assumed to be the author of the text by merit senders etc... not entirely ethical I think. So yeah maybe I can think of a (bad) reason to do this - merit whoring.

Put it in quote tags and remove all doubt.

The fact that moderators are extremely lenient in such cases doesn't make it a good or even acceptable practice.
1718  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 01, 2022, 06:26:21 PM

Most of the cooling equipment (fans/vents/ducts/etc) I bought for my mining farm was being marketed for grow tents. I bet my garage would light up on a drone infrared camera like a damn volcano. My electric bill was probably higher than the rest of the street combined. I'm quite surprised no fuzz came knocking during all those years.

Eventually I decided to put that excess heat to good use (tomatoes and strawberries and stuff). So I bought grow lights and the whole thing was glowing pink-purple. Still nothing.
1719  Other / Off-topic / Re: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) on: February 01, 2022, 05:49:51 PM
How does that unsubstantiate the claim, I don't see any numbers of deaths in that statement?

It clearly says "VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness". Which is directly contradicting what all those muppets using VAERS data are doing - assuming that VAERS data is showing the number of deaths caused by the vaccines. It's not.
 
The entire thing is one big CYA essentially saying the data may or may not be valid. If anything, that statement confirms his claim that the data contained in VAERS is underreported.

No, it doesn't say that the data "may or may not be valid" (for determining the number of adverse events caused by vaccines). It clearly says that the data is not valid for that purpose - "cannot be used", doesn't get any more definitive than that.

1720  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Trezor AOPP Integration on: February 01, 2022, 05:20:55 PM
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We're at peak cancel culture apparently. A business deal falls apart - yep, that's because people just want you cancelled for no reason whatsoever, definitely not because your sleazy useless "service" is not wanted or needed. What a bunch of petulant children.

They should implement this shit on the web3nftdefimetamask stuff if they haven't done so yet. It will be welcomed with open arms and no pesky privacy concerns.
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