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2701  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This asshole published my private key! on: December 22, 2016, 11:09:46 AM
I bet some smart guy is recording the searches being made on his server. Logging the addresses or private keys for a later time then he's gonna clean everyone out.

it is obvious isn't it?
there are sites for that too where you enter your private key to search the obviously fake "d-a-t-a-b-a-s-e" and obviously what that site does is instead of searching for it, it does a quick sweep to empty that address!

if you search OP had included a link to one of these stupid scamming method before!
2702  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What do you do when BTC shoots up? on: December 22, 2016, 11:03:11 AM
today is one of the cases of this happening in real time. right now as i am typing this price is $867 on bitfinex and it has shot up in less than a day. now the question is what is everyone doing in this case?

i am personally looking for a top to sell some coins and wait for a bottom to buy back more. probably on 880ish price. but i have to wait and see.
2703  Economy / Economics / Re: You should never trust banks on: December 22, 2016, 10:55:59 AM
I guess if the same thing that happened to OP happened to me, I would never trust banks but for now Ill say that I can trust banks. For years I am using bank to store some of my money and nothing goes wrong with it but I don't trust them fully, so I don't put most of my money in the bank, just a percent of it since I know from the start that a scenario of happening that is experienced by OP is possible to happen.

well the thing that happened to OP is not clear in my opinion. i have read his comments in the first couple of pages and to be honest i have a feeling that he is not telling us everything.

we have all been using banks, our parents have been using banks, everyone around us too. and none of us have ever heard or seen a bank closing someone's account with no reason and get away with it.
although mistakes always happen and they get fixed easily with a little time but nothing like what OP is telling us.
2704  Economy / Speculation / Re: Latest Price Surge Due To Delayed Halving Effect? on: December 22, 2016, 10:49:43 AM
So after the first halving in 2012, there was a lag of a few months before we started seeing the price rise and ultimately reach its ATH. Many, including myself, predicted we would see something similar with the second halving. After the second halving earlier this year, there also wasn't any immediate significant rise in price. There was also the Bitfinex hack which would have a negative effect and possibly caused an even longer lag period. Could we now be seeing the effect of this year's halving with the price starting to surge after months of sitting in the 600's - 700's? Are there other factors which might be involved?

the after 2012 halving rise and that ATH you are talking about which was in 2013 has not much with halving but mostly was because of manipulations and pumps of MtGox the biggest exchange in the world by that time.

but yeah the rise is also because of the second halving, i was always saying this back then before halving that price will truly rise in a couple of months after the halving when miners sell all the remainder coins and they start selling the new rewards of 12.5

also there are so many other good news about bitcoin too. specially in US where Trump seems to be so pro bitcoin these days.
2705  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some people prefer Bitcoin over fiat ? on: December 22, 2016, 10:45:29 AM
Bitcoin is being used widely in porn sites, gambling and drug dealing sectors.

do you actually have some reliable reference for this?
or are you saying this because you saw some popular topics in this board filled with hundreds of comment?

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Is that why the btc made for ? I have seen a lot of members in this forum discussing about buying drugs, gambling and enjoying porn with bitcoin. Is not it a misuse of a currency ? Block chain tech is a awesome tech and btc is getting popular. I hate these misuses of precious btc. It hurts me. This will lead into unhealthy society along with unhealthy future generation.

of course bitcoin is not made for that.
it is a currency first of all and that makes it the same as any other currency, people use them to pay for all kinds of things. you can pay for your bills or buy drugs with both USD and BTC. not much difference there.
2706  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Burning coins. How to? on: December 21, 2016, 10:38:04 AM
if the fundamentals are the same as bitcoin you can't just pick a random address on your own, the address has to match certain rules which is the base58 encoding with checksum.
like this:
Code:
Bitcoin address = version + RIPEMD-160(SHA-256( Public Key )) + checksum
you can find articles on how to do it with bitcoin and then change them to your altcoin:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_burn
http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/1851/how-to-generate-a-valid-bitcoin-address-for-destroying-bitcoins

p.s. donating them would be wiser and easier!
2707  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Binary Options The Same as Trade? on: December 21, 2016, 10:32:23 AM
In binary option we bet our money for earning more money so the same case occurs in here also so we can agree on the point that yes it is also a type of gambling. I do not know that how much is fun in this type of gambling because I do not have much experience in binary option. I will say that it is a type of gambling mostly played for profit.

If you look a closer look at it, binary option is not a gambling type such as roulette, or dice it is even different from poker or sports betting.  There are regularities that can be exploited, as one site stated.  Charts pattern, are used the same way trading used it  and it is used around the globe. Binary Option is unlike Casino gambling that solely depend on its system settings.


yes but it is the different from other gambling games only in the sense that you need experience in it to be able to win, and the site doesn't decide you win or lose.

but it is the same as other gambling games at the same time because when you lose you lose all your money. in other words it is either lose all or win all and there is nothing in between.

but it certainly is not trading, and i don't know why someone with trading knowledge and ability to analyze the charts would choose gambling instead of trading itself.
2708  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: December 21, 2016, 10:25:47 AM
It is impossible, bitcoin can not be controlled by anyone because of their very nature anonymous. Believe me, the price is natural and the bitcoin can't manipulation by anyone, because the price is formed from the requests and needs.

No, it can be manipulated by many groups or people who are holding a lot of bitcoins. Maybe you doesn't know what a whale can do to the price of bitcoin. If you know what happened with bitfinex hacking incident, that made the price of bitcoin fall rapidly. And I can say that is what whales can do, they can manipulate the price of bitcoin.

lol bitfinex hack had nothing to do with manipulation and/or whales!
it is the clear example that there are too many newbies in the bitcoin and they easily panic. the whales involvement in that incident was those buy walls you saw down at $500 and those pockets that was filled with super cheap coins were whales pockets.
also if you look at the orderbooks they are still thin compared to other markets like gold or forex that is why drops like that still can happen.
2709  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which Is The Better Tagline? on: December 21, 2016, 10:16:43 AM
We are conducting market research among the bitcoin community to see which tagline resonates with them most.

Our products are education based, focusing on programming and investing courses.

If you have a proposal for a tagline we can use, leave it below.

Thank you.

i've voted for Join The Bitcoin Revolution only because it is the better of the two, but since you are saying what you want this tagline be for is educational based then i guess it is not 100% compatible with what you are using it for.
if i came up with something better i will mention it here but i think you should somehow add learning about it here.
2710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Decentralized Exchanges: Why do they lack liquidity? on: December 18, 2016, 01:55:43 PM
first problem i think is lack of awareness/advertisement for these things. for example i never knew there is something called decentralized exchange until recently and until now i don't know how many are there and which is which and how each of them are!

and i also checked some of them out and they don't seem to be offering the same features i get on regular exchanges. and there is always issue of fiat trading.
2711  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading? on: December 18, 2016, 01:48:05 PM
i don't get disappointed that easily. of course there is a big difference between getting frustrated or even sad about a decision than getting disappointed.
i believe that every action that i take is one more step towards a better decision next time, even when i make a bad decision it means i won't make it again because i tend to learn from my mistakes and move on fast.
2712  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Which Payment processor do you use/recommend? on: December 18, 2016, 01:42:02 PM
i wouldn't recommend coinbase at all, they are under attack from IRS and there is always a possibility they go under because of pressure and users cashing out.

bitpay however seems to be a good choice and i have been seeing it a lot more than any other processor. and as someone who have used bitpay for paying for services and goods i liked the user experience.
2713  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: December 18, 2016, 01:34:04 PM
Does anyone have any idea how many people are using gold as a store of value vs btc?  And how long do you think until we have the same user Base as holders of gold?
I will suggest both but separately according to as what amount of money you want to invest in it .
If you are looking to invest small amount of money , about $500-1000 then You should go for Bitcoin but if you want to go for above $1k investment then gold will be better idea .
i dont take holding gold will be profitable since gold is stable , personally i will never use and hold gold , you can make alot of profit with bitcoin since its unstable unlike gold.

gold is also profitable, based on the time and so many other factors price of gold is also fluctuating which makes it profitable enough as an investment. besides it is mostly trading that makes all of these investments profitable, which means you buy on the dips and sell when price went up.
I think that gold is the save bet. I know not a single report that would say it will be worthless one day.
With bitcoin it's different. Bitcoin is risky, there are reports that say in five to ten years nobody is going to use bitcoin anymore.
But of course possible profit that can be generated with bitcoin is way bigger than with gold.

nobody knows these things about bitcoin for sure only because it is a new technology so you can't predict it based on the history it had. i bet it was exactly the same for many other markets too in the first 10 years of their existence. and bitcoin is growing right now and there is no reason for it to die in the next 5 years. 10 years is not sure but it will certainly take a lot for bitcoin to go down at this point.
2714  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Mining without mining hardware? on: December 18, 2016, 01:28:06 PM
have you thought about getting into another job to earn money and investing in something else for profit?

also there is always altcoin mining which you can do with your graphic card (GPU) if you have a decent enough system, but all that is only if you have a very cheap electricity and willing to shorten the life your equipment by running it working for long hours.

anyways check out coinwarz.com it has some good info on mining.
2715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Fastest altcoin? on: December 17, 2016, 10:46:39 AM
Actually since our blocks transactions are not full , we are only using 0.4 kB per block not the full 1meg per block , growth rate is ~ 1gig per year so far.
read:
(assuming it handles the same amount of transaction bitcoin is handling) having the potential is useless as long as it is not used.

having the capacity is worth nothing when nobody is using that capacity. you may as well have 0.4 kb block sizes.

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Our Orphan Chart can be viewed here https://chainz.cryptoid.info/zeit/#!extraction
Coin runs very well compared to others.

thanks for the link and it proves what i said above. faster blocks means more orphans.

according to the chart the average orphan blocks of your coin in 10 days is 160-220 blocks and some days it goes up to 953 orphan blocks

now those numbers are max 4 orphan blocks worst case scenario for bitcoin and an average of 0.5-1 orphan per 7 days according to blockchain.info charts.

in other words as a conclusion, with bitcoin you need to wait for 3+ confirmation to be sure and with a coin like above you need to wait at least 1000+ confirmation.
2716  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Has halving changed the structure of mining? on: December 17, 2016, 10:16:28 AM
why should it change anything?
before halving miners were being rewarded 25BTC for each block and bitcoin was worth starting $170-220 and stayed in $200 range for a very long time the last time i checked ended with $400ish price.

now they are getting paid with 12.5BTC per block and price started with $550 ish (rise happened before the block halving) and not it is $780

25*300 = 7,500
12.5*780= 9,750
2717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Fastest altcoin? on: December 17, 2016, 10:07:23 AM
confirmation and number of transaction/sec (TPS) are the same thing and it is 7 TPS for bitcoin i was right. and as i said the restriction factor is the size of the block that coin has and the time between the blocks and also i suppose the average size of the transactions.

in the end it doesn't matter BTC, DASH or ... if you can only put ~4000 transactions in one block they will all have the same restriction.

solution bigger block, shorter time between blocks, smaller transactions.

each of these have their own problems though which i am not expert enough to discuss at length but in short for example a bigger block or blocks that are mined with 2 minutes interval means size of the blockchain will be 100 GB in 500 days (it took bitcoin 7 years to reach 100 GB)

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ZEIT & Mint both have 20X BTC current transactions capacity.
Both running at a 30 second block speed.

here is an example for you. 30 seconds and if i take his word for it 20X current capacity means blockchain size is also growing 20x faster.
bitcoin : 7 years : 100 GB
ZEIT : ~100 days : 100 GB
(assuming it handles the same amount of transaction bitcoin is handling) having the potential is useless as long as it is not used.

also another problem that i forgot to mention is orphan blocks which will increase drastically with shorter time interval blocks.
2718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Fastest altcoin? on: December 17, 2016, 09:49:20 AM
transaction/second depends on how many people are using it.

speed of transaction to appear on the network depends on the speed with which you can send the transaction out (internet speed) and the nodes to receive it and propagate it also based on the connectivity of the nodes (connected to 1 node takes longer than if you are connected to 100 and send the tx to all of them)

confirmation time also has nothing to do with the algorythm. it is based on the time difference between blocks. (how fast blocks are mined) if it is ~10 minute like bitcoin time is ~10 minutes. if an altcoin can mine blocks every 5 seconds then it is every 5 seconds.

number of transaction/second that the coin can handle depends on size of the block (eg 1 MB for bitcoin) and time between blocks (i think it is something like 7 tx/s for bitcoin)

so which one of these is your question?
2719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ethereum is dead ? on: December 17, 2016, 09:42:57 AM
hi guy i buy ethereum 2  month ago price not move 10-11 $
bitcoin 600-700 $  Huh
what happening with ethereum price? thx

nothing is happening it is more like the natural thing that happens to all the altcoins. all of them get pump and dumped from time to time and ethereum is experiencing what most speculators were warning you about, it is experiencing dump. and it will go on down more too.
2720  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: December 17, 2016, 09:35:18 AM
Does anyone have any idea how many people are using gold as a store of value vs btc?  And how long do you think until we have the same user Base as holders of gold?
I will suggest both but separately according to as what amount of money you want to invest in it .
If you are looking to invest small amount of money , about $500-1000 then You should go for Bitcoin but if you want to go for above $1k investment then gold will be better idea .
i dont take holding gold will be profitable since gold is stable , personally i will never use and hold gold , you can make alot of profit with bitcoin since its unstable unlike gold.

gold is also profitable, based on the time and so many other factors price of gold is also fluctuating which makes it profitable enough as an investment. besides it is mostly trading that makes all of these investments profitable, which means you buy on the dips and sell when price went up.
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