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2741  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 10, 2013, 04:51:49 PM
People are getting upset because some people not sharing their compiled code are damaging their own reputation and the reputation of the coin. Also, it's just flat out unethical to steal blocks. 'Of course they are! This is the internetz where anything goes!' is the typical argument, however I'd like to think the crypto-community and particularly XPM miners are for the most part much better than the worst posters on the /b forums. Right now there are a lot of people proving me wrong. All you have to do is look at the statistics.

Everyone stop mining!

Dudeguy has claimed all future blocks for himself. Anyone discovering 'his' blocks is now classed as STEALING, and will feel the full force of the law!
2742  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 10, 2013, 03:52:03 PM
Hi,

as the search function didn't show any matches I kindly want to ask, if someone can tell me whether IPv6 is supported by primecoin or not. I found out that it is supported by bitcoin since 0.7. Although i assume that a lot of the code has been forked from bitcoin, I would really like not only to assume, but to know if IPv6 is supported by primecoin...
"getpeerinfo" shows only IPv4 connections, but that might be due to the fact that my current internet access is IPv4 only. But that will change soon...

Kind regards

Yes if compiled with the USE_IPV6 flag.
2743  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 10, 2013, 02:45:16 PM
There are a lot of angry miners out there. I myself and probably the most unlucky with this currency, but the last 48 hours has not been all bad luck. A lot of it has been block stealing by individuals unwilling to share their complete information in this thread (NOT PEOPLE WHO HAVE SHARED, YOU ARE INNOCENT).

Calm down. There has been no stealing to my knowledge. Plenty of health competition, but no stealing.
Why would people just give you free coins? What's wrong with buying them?
2744  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 10, 2013, 12:01:10 PM
guys how do I compile under linux?  When I try make makefile.unix I get "No targets specified and no makefile found."

There are a few makefiles. You need to select the correct one with -f.
make -f makefile.unix

Of course you'll need all the required dependences.

Do me, do me...  I get

alert.cpp:6:53: fatal error: boost/algorithm/string/classification.hpp: No such file or directory

...on my windows build, even though I've even tried to add the dirs explicitly...

INCLUDEPATHS= \
 -I"$(CURDIR)" \
 -I"$(CURDIR)"/obj \
 -I"$c:/deps/boost_1_54_0" \
 -I"$c:/deps/boost_1_54_0/boost" \
 -I"$c:/deps/boost_1_54_0/boost/algorithm/string/" \
 -I"$c:/deps/boost_1_54_0/libs" \
 -I"$c:/deps/boost_1_54_0/stage/lib" \
 -I"$c:/deps/db-4.8.30.NC/build_unix" \
 -I"$c:/deps/openssl-1.0.1e/include" \
 -I"$c:/deps"


Windows. Haven't got the foggiest with that OS. I'm in camp Linux.
2745  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 10, 2013, 11:33:21 AM
guys how do I compile under linux?  When I try make makefile.unix I get "No targets specified and no makefile found."

There are a few makefiles. You need to select the correct one with -f.
make -f makefile.unix

Of course you'll need all the required dependences.
2746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 10, 2013, 09:18:30 AM
Probably not.

Probably not.

Corrected that.

Yes PPS is largely a red herring.

Yes I agree, it's very confusing. But it's the best we have to work on for the time being.

How? Still a little vague.. can you elaborate specifically?

Any consolation, it's just plummeted to 95 pps. Very hard to be sure if a genuine improvement or not. Only time will tell.
2747  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 10, 2013, 09:05:36 AM
Oh my god, what a dumb dumb I am. Penny has dropped.
Now getting 184pps from a cheap dual-core G2020 ivy bridge, using original unmodified sourcecode. Pps still fluctuates though.

Ahh, can't believe it's take me over 2 days to realise what I had to do to double the pps. Kicking myself.

Now let's see if it works on EC2...



care to share?

Would you?
2748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 10, 2013, 07:47:45 AM
Oh my god, what a dumb dumb I am. Penny has dropped.
Now getting 184pps from a cheap dual-core G2020 ivy bridge, using original unmodified sourcecode. Pps still fluctuates though.

Ahh, can't believe it's take me over 2 days to realise what I had to do to double the pps. Kicking myself.


The primespersec measure is for fun only, it does not necessarily reflect true mining performance. The only accurate measure is block rate, that is, given a fixed difficulty how fast can you generate blocks. To measure this one can use a lower difficulty than the network difficulty.



This is what I'm wondering. I'll have to leave it running for a few days to see if it benefits. As I say, it still fluctuates.
2749  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 10, 2013, 07:36:50 AM
Oh my god, what a dumb dumb I am. Penny has dropped.
Now getting 184pps from a cheap dual-core G2020 ivy bridge, using original unmodified sourcecode. Pps still fluctuates though.

Ahh, can't believe it's take me over 2 days to realise what I had to do to double the pps. Kicking myself.

Now let's see if it works on EC2...

2750  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 09, 2013, 06:53:48 PM
I haven't found one for 24hrs so I'm shutting down too.  I'll wait for the gpu miner I'm sure someone is using to be released..

No problem. All the easier for us remaining miners.

But we'll be back once you've lost the edge, rest assured Smiley

Don't take too long. The block reward is dropping.
2751  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 09, 2013, 06:49:35 PM
I haven't found one for 24hrs so I'm shutting down too.  I'll wait for the gpu miner I'm sure someone is using to be released..

No problem. All the easier for us remaining miners.
2752  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 09, 2013, 02:47:41 PM
My client is '24 hours behind' and taking a long time to sync? Anyone else see this issue (if it is an issue?)

I would delete .primecoin/ folder and start fresh. Don't forget to backup wallet.dat beforehand.
2753  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 09, 2013, 09:35:39 AM
Since i got the first block  Cool

Can you please remind us of that AGAIN more often. Every few hours at least.  Cool
2754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 08, 2013, 06:34:56 PM
Any GPU miner yet?
Maybe I'll be in better luck with that

There's no guarantee they will mine any faster when they do arrive.
2755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 08, 2013, 04:38:47 PM
EC2 virtual machines are performing poorly
They're always performing very poorly compared to their cost. (Unless what you're looking for is to be a hipster.)

The entropy is an old issue of virtual machines any noob should be able to fix.

I meant on a hardware primespersec basis, not cost basis.

Easy to fill with prng entropy, but that didn't make a difference. Of course that's not truly random.

What's your theory?
2756  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 08, 2013, 04:16:58 PM
"We have to stop ec2 instances"
"We have to stop botnets"

And why, exactly?

EC2 virtual machines are performing poorly with this coin. I have a hunch it's something to do with their entropy. Only guessing at the moment mind.
2757  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 08, 2013, 04:11:54 PM
GPU mining is absolutely pointless. A public GPU miner will only drive up difficulty, and we'll be right back at ground zero again. Pointless.



Anyways, I have now mined 140 XPM! (ON a single computer) Seems I'm quite lucky.

There are two reasons why I ask ... one is "selfish" : I have 3 strong GPUs while only 1 mediocre quad CPU. ... the other is, I think it's better  to have GPU mining in place IMO is more resistant to botnet-mining. Or am I mistaken to believe this?

Mistaken, imo.
Botnets can use GPU to mine as much as they can use CPU to mine.

Not as easily. It is very much harder. Plus most users don't have high-end GPUs.
Actually, it isn't. Most "silent miners" sold on forums have support for both CPU and GPU.
Not that hard, I coded myself a silent miner that would mine with GPU and CPU using CGMiner and cudaMiner in autoit.

Then you have just solved the debate if Bitcoin needed ASICs or not.
2758  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 08, 2013, 04:06:32 PM
GPU mining is absolutely pointless. A public GPU miner will only drive up difficulty, and we'll be right back at ground zero again. Pointless.



Anyways, I have now mined 140 XPM! (ON a single computer) Seems I'm quite lucky.

There are two reasons why I ask ... one is "selfish" : I have 3 strong GPUs while only 1 mediocre quad CPU. ... the other is, I think it's better  to have GPU mining in place IMO is more resistant to botnet-mining. Or am I mistaken to believe this?

Mistaken, imo.
Botnets can use GPU to mine as much as they can use CPU to mine.

Not as easily. It is very much harder. Plus most users don't have high-end GPUs.
2759  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 08, 2013, 04:03:19 PM
Has anybody made a GPU miner yet?
a GPU miner will drive up the difficulty and lower the block reward. We'll be dealing with the same exact shit again. What's the point?

To stop botnets, or they will eventually control the coin.
2760  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 08, 2013, 02:49:49 PM
This can't be a serious contender in the coin game without a guaranteed ROI for miners.
This needs a mining pool, or people are going to get disillusioned, fast.

Guaranteed ROI?

*facepalm*

Point me in the direction of a coin that guarantees ROI.
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