It's like dreaming, praying and imagining, everyone has their own dreams and there is no one who doesn't want to achieve financial success in life, but most of them are just dreaming or fantasizing without any action, so obviously it will never happen or succeed. I understand that the OP is talking about taking action and not just dreaming or planning, but the problem here is that you are forgetting that everyone has a sense of "laziness and forgetfulness" which ultimately leads to procrastination.

The fact is that it's easier said than done, and everyone has this trait, only those people who really have strong determination and sincerity in themselves can ultimately achieve success, on the other hand we must also understand that there is absolutely no guarantee that you can actually achieve financial success as a reward for the efforts you have made. Finally, I admit that what the OP said is indeed a pretty good method to increase one's confidence but humans have traits within themselves that can make them experience delays or even failures.

I think what is meant by gambling for fun does not mean that you gamble with the aim of losing, meaning that the idea and aim of fun will be useful to divert your mind from the aim of "earning" because clearly that is too dangerous an approach because gambling is not the place to earn money, that doesn't mean you have a goal of enjoyment and then you don't want to take the winnings when you're really lucky, one of the reasons is because who doesn't need money? Everyone needs money to meet their daily needs and when they succeed in winning, it is clear that the better thing to do is to cash it out as quickly as possible.

Let's straighten out that as I said above, one of the reasons why gambling is for fun is because we can avoid several actions out of control due to gambling with the aim of making a profit, in essence it will be easier for you to become a responsible gambler if basically you don't treat gambling seriously, you have also said that we don't like losing and that's normal but gambling is always about risky activities which means you have to have a way to minimize the possibility of losing if you want to stay involved in gambling, and one way is by gambling with a budget that you can be responsible for if you lose.

Yes, one solution so that you don't always experience pressure from situations like that is that you have to explain to your family about everything you feel now because I understand that there is pressure that you feel from situations like this, I understand that it doesn't mean it's impossible for anyone, including you can be the best at university but maybe it takes time, I'm sure you can but maybe you need a lot of support from the people closest to you to help increase your enthusiasm in the process to prove to them that you really can be the best which is in line with what the family expected. I think not a few people are also in a situation like this and I see that for problems like this you just have to explain to your family that you need full support to increase your morale, you don't need to promise anything to your family but you just need to say that you I will try my best, I think your family will definitely understand.

The problem is that what is at stake is their last money and obviously at least they must have hopes of winning and multiplying their last money to be bigger, and obviously with the hopes they put on winning then if it turns out that the final result loses they will definitely be disappointed or frustrated as you said.

However, gambling with the last funds is better avoided because if you lose in the end, it is very possible for you to do some actions or justify all means to get money to re-fund gambling in the next session with the aim of catching up on something that was lost before. What you say is true, it is better to prioritize other things that should be prioritized such as saving money for transportation needs that will take us home.

However, I think it is too risky to trade with other people's funds, I understand that there must be an agreement behind the scenes between you and the person who will fund you especially in terms of profit sharing, but what must be remembered is that trading is a risky activity and also involves a person's mental and psychological especially when you are in a bad situation such as a loss.

On the other hand, even if you are a trader who is experienced enough and has good management regarding the planning you have as well as risk management such as having TP and SL, I think it is still possible for you to get carried away by emotions due to experiencing unfavorable situations such as experiencing consecutive losses which ultimately have an impact on your mental and psychological state, trading really requires calmness to be able to make decisions that are really right but it is very possible for every trader to experience situations where they are difficult to control their emotions which in the end what usually happens is that they make decisions based on their emotions which usually end up with greater losses and if in that situation you trade using other people's funds then obviously it will create a problem between you and the person who funds, therefore I think it is better to avoid and better use your own money to trade because after all this activity is very sensitive to a person's mental and psychological.

Actually this is a choice but still your statement really makes sense in terms of distinguishing, I am not saying that uneducated people will not be able to succeed because of course there are many people who only graduated from elementary school but they managed to achieve success in their lives because they were able to realize their dreams with the hard work they did, but there may be significant differences in terms of achieving success between uneducated people and educated people and you have said one of them in terms of "how" to achieve it, uneducated people are sure in general they will not have too much insight and understanding regarding some things while educated people obviously they have enough understanding and insight so that this makes it easier for them in terms of making money without having to spend too much sweat, but the conclusion remains that all of this is a choice, it doesn't matter if you or anyone chooses not to be an educated person but maybe the process you go through will be harder than people who have enough insight and learning.

The problem here is what if we are unlucky? of course it becomes a result that in my opinion is quite disappointing because the money we bet is our last money while on the other hand gambling is always about winning and losing which means not only the chances of victory can occur but the possibility of defeat is also a sure thing. On the other hand, it is not easy to get lucky because the name of luck is always "coincidence" which means you will never know when you can win. So in my opinion gambling using the last money is too risky, I understand you can win but on the other hand you also have to think about yourself and consider what if the result is losing. Besides, gambling should not be taken that seriously, don't put your hopes on winning because it will only make us feel more disappointed when it turns out that the result is losing, you have also said that you lost your last amount of money when you tried it and therefore it is better to save your last money and use it for other more important things.

For myself honestly I always use several indicators such as RSI one of which I often use, I understand that the indicator also refers to or follows the movement of price direction but at least it can give me an indication of what will happen to the market, and not only that I also combine it with candlestick patterns that are being formed, if RSI has given an indication that the price is in the resistance area then usually I will wait for the formation of certain candles, one of which is like a spinning top or doji along with the confirmation and if the confirmation really happens then obviously at that time I can confirm that the direction of price movement will reversal or reverse and I also like to do the same way when finding out if/when the price will be bullish when the situation is strong down, But still it is just a way that does not have 100% accuracy, but I feel that it is really useful to help me achieve profit and still risk management is a preparation that should not be ignored and must always be owned by all traders.

It is true that to survive we should have money and how to get money, by having a job, with the job we have we can make money. and the purpose of having a job is to have money where we need money to meet our daily needs. All things tend to require money to do or get them, but even so, money cannot buy everything, indeed happiness can be obtained by having a lot of money, but it cannot buy happiness that is tied to family.

and the importance of being able to manage money well is a must, because having a lot of money doesn't mean we have to waste it, of course we have to have good management, be able to manage expenses well so that the money doesn't run out in vain. Many people have problems with money management, to the point where they are confused about where their money goes, in my opinion this happens because there is no good money management, one of which is not recording expenses. I agree with you that there are people who develop their hobby until it becomes a skill that can produce income. Of course, people like that are rare. making money by pursuing a hobby is very difficult, not everyone can do it.

I would probably also say that betting with your last money is a reckless or even stupid decision, it's like you are depending on the outcome of a game that you never know if you win or lose, and the first point to think about and consider is what if you lose at the end of the session? It's a situation that not everyone can afford and I'm sure when it's your last penny you'll be hoping to win at the end of the session which means there's a good chance you'll get emotional when you do lose and obviously some out of control actions are likely to be taken such as perhaps borrowing money to gamble again in order to make back the amount you lost.

The best advice is to never think of gambling if you don't have money and it's better to use your last money for the needs of your life that are more important than just gambling. I do not prohibit anyone from gambling but certainly you must know how your financial situation is, do not let gambling which should be fun become an activity that causes a lot of problems. And on the other hand, yes, there are other better options and as you suggested, namely putting money on other things that can indeed make your money have a guarantee to grow such as business or others.

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You like to say "yes" but on the other hand you also say "no", however a beginner investor must first understand what bitcoin is and understand at least about basic things related to investment because it is their understanding that will sustain the investment journey they are doing, because if they don't understand at all about what investment is then obviously it is likely that they will experience many losses because their journey is not based on knowledge and understanding, I understand that not all beginners have a lot of understanding about investing because it will only be formed when they already have high flying hours in the process but what I mean is that at least you must have an understanding of the basics that will certainly tell you about what you can and cannot do during the accumulation journey that you have planned.

For other things, yes I agree with you that bitcoin is more recommended to be made as a long-term investment which is indirectly an intermediary that has the potential to bring you to a fairly lucrative financial level in the future, and also for budget issues, of course it is highly recommended to allocate a budget amount that you are able to account for because of the possibility of risks that cannot always be avoided considering market movements that have a fluctuating nature and besides that try that it is a budget amount that will not be used for anything else, so simply put you have to separate between money for living needs, money for emergency funds and money for allocation on accumulation on bitcoin, because not a few also some investors who end up experiencing delays in the allocation for the accumulation of bitcoin when they experience some unexpected situations that make them need money urgently until in the end they are forced to sell some of their bitcoin, and this is the importance of thinking about and having an emergency fund as a precaution before you really start accumulating bitcoin.

Yes, gamble when you really have the ability in terms of budget for allocation to gambling and never force activities that actually don't have to be done seriously, because gambling is just an activity to fill your spare time and not something you have to do. One of the reasons is because there are dangers that will always lurk you at any time while you are involved in gambling. And also of course don't care too much about what other people say about you, I understand that the viewpoint of gambling in the eyes of the public is very negative so because of that it is very possible that the people closest to you can assume or claim that you are someone who has a bad personality because you are involved in gambling. But it doesn't matter, just let it go because on the other hand you are not gambling using their money or in any way harming them for the gambling you are doing.

But on the other hand it will still be very important for you to apply limits in various aspects even if you gamble for entertainment purposes by putting a small budget, because basically the bad possibilities in gambling cannot always be completely avoided, I mean it is possible to eventually get addicted if you don't apply any limits.

Saya benar2 akan sependapat dengan OP bahwa memang robot trading itu tidak ada bedanya dengan kita ketika melakukan perdagangan khususnya dari segi hasilnya, karena memang mereka juga mengacu pada indikator yang dimana itu sering kita gunakan sebagai bahan acuan untuk mengambil keputusan buy/sell dan untuk masalah hasilnya tentu tergantung pada seberapa akurat prediksi kita, tetapi mungkin mereka bekerja secara otomatis dan berbeda dengan kita yang melakukannya secara manual, disisi lain kalo memang sama sekali tidak ada sistem TP atau SL di robot maka menurut saya kita harus benar2 menghindarinya dan lebih baik bertrading secara manual dengan cara dan strategi kita sendiri, karena robot mengacu pada indikator untuk menemukan indikasi dan indikator juga mengacu pada pergerakan pasar, jadi intinya menurut saya tidak ada keunggulan yang benar2 bisa membuat kita untuk menjadikannya pilihan, dan menurut saya sepertinya robot trading itu di khususkan hanya untuk orang2 yang sangat sibuk maksudnya yang sulit menemukan waktu untuk bertrading.

True, on the other hand I think few people can think this far, they just think that saving in the bank or manual can save them in the future, but it is a fact that inflation will never be avoided, and one of the right solutions here is as you said that we should turn to other alternatives that are indeed the right idea such as investment, by having this place then you will be able to get additional value and amount of money over time and this will be very useful to balance your financial value with the increasing purchasing power due to inflation. On the other hand I am not saying that saving money is bad, because it is a good idea that leads to preventive measures, but on the other hand we must be more careful and look for alternatives that are truly a solution.

Of course, because an addicted gambler has a strange mindset and is different from normal people in general when it comes to gambling, they have significant confidence in gambling activities, such as believing that they will really be able to win big, no matter what. the fact of defeat always hits them at the end of the session but they still believe that it is part of their struggle to produce bigger wins. All these beliefs arise due to the hope they place on winning, and this is also the reason why addiction is difficult to overcome with some suggestions even though the suggestions seem reasonable, and addiction is a disease that exists in a person's mind, simply put, addiction is very difficult to overcome if basically they still really like their gambling activities.

On the other hand, yes, I understand that we care about them, especially if they are basically one of our friends, but the fact is that it is very difficult to give them advice and usually it ends in a fight because they think that we are bothering them. So at least we have given our best, even if it is just advice and we will leave the rest to time, because only time will give them the real answer that gambling is not what they think.

I understand that all investors have the goal of making a profit and indeed that is their goal of engaging in bitcoin accumulation but seeking or pursuing profits in an unbalanced way is an approach that I think is better avoided, I understand that anyone can get a large amount of profit when they dare to take a large amount of risk, but isn't that the same as completely ruling out the possibility of risk? of course, investing is not that easy and getting the profits they expect will not be as easy as turning the palm of the hand because the possibility of risk cannot always be avoided completely. This is what happens when one only looks at one side of investing, I'm not saying that you shouldn't prioritize profits because after all that's what we're here for but I hope that we don't get too careless when it comes to making decisions unless you've prepared everything thoroughly especially self-acceptance when the situation turns around where losses come your way.

On the other hand I agree with your statement @JJG where you are more directing someone's mindset to look at the long term which is actually more profitable than doing something they think is "right" like cashing out quickly, this is an investment where the future is what we see and we make the main goal in planning the accumulation of bitcoin that we do, I don't blame them but certainly with an approach like that it is clear that there will be a slight delay in profits when they withdraw too often while others maintain and they will see a significant difference in the amount of profit in the next 5 - 10 years and you can see which one is more profitable.

However having good management of money is always recommended, and when you are able to appreciate the value of money then I think you will prioritize considering first before you finally spend the money, on the other hand most people these days have difficulty in distinguishing between needs and wants, they are always trapped in the thought that it is their needs but in fact there is no benefit that is too important from the items they buy which in the end the money goes to expenses that should not be necessary, Therefore, if you are able to appreciate and manage money well then I think you will prioritize function over prestige, but unfortunately most of today's youth always prioritize prestige over needs and saving is an action that they ignore when in fact this is an action that must be considered and done because it is for their own benefit, as the OP said that you will really feel that money is very valuable when you are already in a situation that is quite alarming, right, surprised when you see the increase of some necessities. So the bottom line is the mindset in terms of the perspective of money that must be corrected in my opinion and also they must change the habit of buying something that is basically not too important and then menga

There are no lessons on how to break the addiction, it's not taught in school and it's only the person who knows how best to quit gambling addiction and maybe some people who are already in the world of gambling will know some of the suggested ways to reduce the impact of addiction. Most people say that overcoming gambling addiction is a difficult thing, I understand that because addiction lies in a person's mind that is difficult to ignore the habits that they always want and prioritize and that means gambling addiction will be easily overcome if there is basically a strong will and determination from themselves, overcoming the disease that is in the mind must always start with themselves and only then can you follow some of the things that are suggested by many people, especially psychological experts.  But for the problem of the process yes as you said there is nothing instant and for the problem of how long you can recover completely I think it goes back to the level of addiction you are experiencing.

These two financial situations will make two differences in terms of viewpoints and ways of valuing money, when you are born into a rich family then maybe you will not have any problems in terms of finances, or that means you will have no difficulty when you want something or buy the things you want and making ends meet is easy for you, but if the situation is reversed, in the sense that you are someone who has medium or even below average finances then obviously the amount of money that a rich person thinks is nothing but for you it is something very valuable.

And it means as you said that when they are born into a rich family then simply they will never feel any difficulty in terms of finances and for the poor then it is the opposite, so as I said above that there are two different perspectives on the value of money. On the other hand usually rich people's children are more likely to squander money because they feel that they can afford to do so, but actually no matter if you are rich or not, the perspective on the value of money should be the same, or that means we should really be able to appreciate any amount of money because this will lead to good actions and habits for management, life will not always have the upper hand and that means there is a possibility for rich people to go bankrupt and financial management such as saving money will be very important for you in any situation especially when you experience bankruptcy in the future.