Let many people say that now the life time of people rises a little and the poor becomes less, But I want to say that the presence of such huge taxes simply do not allow a person to live, and practical to survive. My country already has such ugly taxes that I do not even understand how easy it will not be to raise children and build their own house.
Simple. You live in a house owned by the bank and you pay them an insane amount of interest. |
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I have a feeling that its going to break up above 2240 soon
Happened. Stamp over 2300 now. |
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It is still theft.
And yes, you are also somewhat responsible if you know that he will use the money to kill and yet you still allow him to have your money.
That is why I left the US. The first tax day that came along where I paid no income taxes I felt relieved that none of my money went to fund ISIS. And by not holding dollars I was not contributing to the monetary system that allows them to print their war money. It is a very satisfying feeling.
You can't feel free from the financing of wars. Even if you don't pay tax on your income, you may still acquire food and other goods with which the seller has to pay tax. The money you give him in person. The government will always find a way to get into your pocket. [/quote] Yep. But if more people stop paying taxes and using the USD it will eventually shut down the machine. |
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If the tax is not being used to improve a certain country, then it is somehow a theft.
If a thief steals your wallet then gives the money to his sick mother...is it still theft? If a thief steals your wallet then uses the money to buy guns to kill people are you party to murder because you allowed the theft? It is still theft. And yes, you are also somewhat responsible if you know that he will use the money to kill and yet you still allow him to have your money. That is why I left the US. The first tax day that came along where I paid no income taxes I felt relieved that none of my money went to fund ISIS. And by not holding dollars I was not contributing to the monetary system that allows them to print their war money. It is a very satisfying feeling. |
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If the tax is not being used to improve a certain country, then it is somehow a theft.
If a thief steals your wallet then gives the money to his sick mother...is it still theft? |
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Rootstock opened there testnet yesturday, ETH will be replaced by RSK in time. All alt-coins will be replaced by sidechains.
Boom.gif I look forward to using Rootstock on Bitcoin. The caveat being that their initial implementation will be slightly centralized due to a token being required and it will rely on several trusted actors to convert back and forth to bitcoins. This will change once Bitcoin gets upgraded with the code necessary to implement it in a decentralized way. |
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3) Funding could be done very well with crypto. A health and human services coin, use it if you want schools. A defense coin, use it if you want to spend all your nation's wealth flying 20 year olds around to kill people who have no idea why we want to kill them. A road coin that your smart car can use to pay tolls etc.
And you are just one person thinking of better ways of funding things. Imagine if government stopped taking money without consent and many solutions could be put forth from thousands of great minds. |
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The answer from the theft sympathisers is always "look at all the wonderful things you get from those tax dollars".
They will always spin the conversation away from the fact that the money was taken without consent.
I will flatly say, I want free education for all. I want everyone to have food. I want everyone to have free clothing and housing. That would be wonderful. But that's not what we were talking about was it? We were talking about our current ancient system of getting funds which involves one party forcefully taking from another party without their consent. Until that is fixed then there is no reason to talk about the free ponies and rainbows.
That's all nice, but do you not want schools and roads? Most people agree the system is administered poorly, and that a person has no choice but to pay taxes according to their geographic location, but what are you talking about with ponies and rainbows? You sound like you're running for office, a lot of empty rhetoric with no sense. Most people, the vast majority, acquiesce because the government uses terror tactics to enforce compliance. But terror tactics or not, some services are necessary in crowded places. Perhaps you missed the part where I said I wanted free education for all. Yes. I would also love some high technology smart roads that charge our cars as we drive and navigate for us. Free cars for everyone would be great too. But that does not negate the fact that the government is taking peoples' money without their consent. Let's address this morally outdated approach of funding things first. Then figure out all of the free stuff we both want people to have. |
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The answer from the theft sympathisers is always "look at all the wonderful things you get from those tax dollars".
They will always spin the conversation away from the fact that the money was taken without consent.
I will flatly say, I want free education for all. I want everyone to have food. I want everyone to have free clothing and housing. That would be wonderful. But that's not what we were talking about was it? We were talking about our current ancient system of getting funds which involves one party forcefully taking from another party without their consent. Until that is fixed then there is no reason to talk about the free ponies and rainbows.
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[...] For some of my bitcoins I recently purchased some crypto-steel and stored some bitcoins on those. I just moved from Afghanistan to Korea spending a few weeks in Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and French Polynesia. By moving, that meant bringing my crypto-steel with me (not trusting it to some post office). So here I am traveling with these metal squares through various security. I spent about 15 minutes in Dubai trying to explain my crypto-steel to security (I had them wrapped in metalic tape to ensure nobody tampered with them). I finally had to unwrap one enough to show what was inside (I also had full chemical gear so that was part of the inquisition as well....long story). I ended up checking my bag in with the crypto-steel from there on out and was paranoid every minute that they were not in my possession. Every hotel I went to had to have a safe. I ended up in one hotel without a safe and I only left briefly to eat. I ended up using a bus instead of going on airplanes when I traveled due to the difficulty. Flying from Vietnam to French Polynesia I decided to keep the crypto-steel with me to avoid the worry I had before. I had to explain to a Vietnamese security guard what they were, I used pictures on my phone and was ok after 5 minutes (I was surprised when he said "oh, Bitcoin!").
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Thanks for sharing your experience Elwar. Had a similar one explaining a few Casascius coins. I am wondering though why you carry the cryptosteel around. Just remember a 12 word Electrum seed and you have no explaining to do crossing borders, and no worries of being robbed when away from 'home'. Still each time I punch in those 12 words from memory to cold sign a transaction, it feels like magic internet money. It makes me again experience how powerful and independent Bitcoin really is. I don't just carry my cryptosteel around with me when I travel. I was moving from one country to another so I brought with me the most valueable stuff (I have 2 suitcases sitting in a storage space in Afghanistan waiting for my buddies to get around to shipping them to me). I have 2 separate backups that I was able to leave with family (split amongs several members) when I was in the US. And I did mix the keys up so they are in the raw form but only I know the pattern. I would not rely on SD card as that can get corrupted or burned or fried. I do not keep all of my bitcoins in one address so memorizing each one would be faulty. Hopefully I will only be moving to a new country a few more times and I can securely hide my cryptosteel on my property. Which, like I said, I would be able to store gold once settled somewhere. But Bitcoin is a ton more easy to transfer country to country than several pounds of gold bars. |
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Current Bitcoin transaction fee: $2.18
Peer to peer gold and silver transaction: $0
Let's do a peer to peer gold transaction. I'll pay you double spot for an ounce of gold on delivery. Let's see about those $0 transaction fees. Here is my address. https://www.google.com/maps/@-43.1382064,147.2102165,17zYep. And don't forget to have the assay equipment ready to ensure it's 99.99% gold. Maybe a furnace to melt it down to check inside etc.  I think you should also factor in some storage costs if you want a vault somewhere to keep it safe. Who needs gold when you can have tungsten? With all of the tungsten they are using to core gold bars the supply will eventually run out. Buy tungsten now!!! (or gold bars since they are the same thing) |
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Excessive private ultrasound procedures putting babies' health at risk A recent survey revealed that scanxiety, a phenomenon where expectant mothers undergo multiple ultrasounds, now affects nearly one in three pregnant women in the U.K. Current guidelines in the U.S. and the U.K. call for just two ultrasounds during the 12th and 20th week of pregnancy to monitor the child's condition. "For the last 20 years, it's been quite common for women to access private facilities for scans. Sometimes it's simply for reassurance, or because they don't feel they're getting sufficient scans on the NHS [National Health Service]. Sometimes they're accessing a service that isn't routinely provided, such as 3D and 4D scans. Many are what you might call souvenir scans," Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists spokesman Dr. Christoph Lees said in TheGuardian.com.
The survey by the parenting site ChannelMum.com collected data from 2,000 pregnant mothers and found that a third of pregnant women opted for extra scans, which were largely prompted by anxiety over the health of the fetus. The poll also showed that another one-third of respondents reported undergoing additional scans to monitor the baby without any specific medical reasons. To be more specific: Twenty percent of women were reported to have gone through two sessions, while 18 percent underwent three or more. Furthermore, one in 50 even reported having nine or 10 additional private scans. This equated to more than one ultrasound session per month during the whole duration of pregnancy, the researchers said.
According to the researchers, extra scans cost expectant mothers millions despite not having any medical reason. The survey revealed that private scans cost from 35 British Pounds up to 1,000 British Pounds for a repeat package. The poll also showed that the private scan industry is currently valued at $54 million a year. However, the researchers have warned that some clinics offer scans that last more than 30 minutes, which may potentially harm the unborn child. The experts have also cautioned about the increasing popularity of "pop-up" scanning companies that offer to conduct the ultrasound at home. Some clinics employ unregistered sonographers, the researchers said.
"Current advice by the National Institute For Health and Clinical Excellence is to have an early scan and then a screening scan for anomalies at around 18-20 weeks. These are recommendations based on the available research and takes into account the harm and benefit of scans. Any further scans beyond these recommendations should be clinically indicated and based on the needs of the women and her developing baby. It is of concern that women are needing this extra assurance. It may reflect a need for women to have more confidence in their pregnancy and this type of reassurance and support is, and can, be provided by their midwife. Anxieties caused by reliance on technology can have an impact on a woman's pregnancy, causing undue stress and anxiety," Mervi Jokinen, Practice and Standards Advisor at the Royal College of Midwives, said in DailyMail.co.uk. Read more and click the links at http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-05-28-excessive-private-ultrasound-procedures-putting-babies-health-at-risk.html. Never really understood the reason behind early ultrasound scans. If your baby's head is misshaped or something, what could you possibly do to change anything? |
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Besides, I like my beer from England, my wine from France, my cars from Japan, my tools from Finland and Germany, my handguns from Austria, my rifles from the U.S.A. and my women from all over. If I tried to get this stuff locally, I would be drinking piss, driving a broken down piece of shit that I couldn't fix, blowing my hand off, and fucking a goat.
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Bitcoin fees $2.18, peer to peer gold and silver transaction $0...hmm.....
Surprise Goyim, it's a rent seeking usury system.
In the non-bitcoin world I would need to get a bank account on base (a very unfriendly bank), withdraw the cash and go to a local exchange that would charge me 4-5%. The fact that it's hard to conveniently order things on Amazon.com while deployed in the military (as it probably should be since I don't think they were doing that in WWII), doesn't exactly change the fact that bitcoin is a rent seeking usury system. When the money requires a fee just to exist at all, that's nothing but a replica of current debt based money. Actually I buy just about everything online on Amazon with bitcoins that is sent to my Army post office box. And I get everything at a 15% discount thanks to bitcoin. The only reason I needed won was that I am renting an apartment and need 3 months rent upfront. In Europe I would use Bitwala to pay that with bitcoins but I am still learning the Korean bitcoin world and will likely not need won very much once I figure things out. |
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Bitcoin fees $2.18, peer to peer gold and silver transaction $0...hmm.....
Surprise Goyim, it's a rent seeking usury system.
I just sold some bitcoins yesterday via localbitcoins. I raised the fee from .0006 to .001 for faster transaction which upped the fee to $2.20. At the regular rate that would be about $1.35. And that was buying 6 million won (about $5,500). Try getting $5,500 out of your ATM for $2.20. That's not a good comparison. A) We already have the money in our account to withdraw from the ATM and B) I don't pay ATM fees Try having one currency and getting a large amount into another currency through the bank. |
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Bitcoin fees $2.18, peer to peer gold and silver transaction $0...hmm.....
Surprise Goyim, it's a rent seeking usury system.
I just sold some bitcoins yesterday via localbitcoins. I raised the fee from .0006 to .001 for faster transaction which upped the fee to $2.20. At the regular rate that would be about $1.35. And that was buying 6 million won (about $5,500). Try getting $5,500 out of your ATM for $2.20. In the non-bitcoin world I would need to get a bank account on base (a very unfriendly bank), withdraw the cash and go to a local exchange that would charge me 4-5%. |
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Ok, people. I'm tired of fucking around with ambiguous definitions: Is bitcoin decentralized? Does bitcoin have value? etc. I have decided to address these issues from proof of work to proof of stake where a normal human can easily quantify if Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency has value and whether it will live or die: http://steemit.com/steemit/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-14-defining-if-cryptocurrency-has-a-value-or-zero-value-from-a-fundamental-scientific-perspectiveIt's relatively short to read, but if you want the TLDR version, my stance is that proof of stake has no value whatsoever and I explain why, and proof of work with ASIC is almost functionally the same thing (externalized proof of stake) in practice and would also have no value. I don't think anyone will find a valid argument against this post. I've come to accept that you put far too much faith in centralized organizations to act intelligently and accomplish what they want to accomplish. If the central powers were as good as you give them credit for, we would have never needed Bitcoin in the first place. Not sure what you're referring to. As for the other guy talking about metals, due to the seasonal aspect of the metals market, I believe July is usually the best month to buy, then the market tends to pump from August onwards. If bitcoin was flat or down at that time, yea, it would be a good idea to dump bitcoin for metals. Silver is closing in on a wedge that I believe is going to break upwards hard long before August, though. Every reason you give for not liking Bitcoin tends to be based on some powerful government being able to methodically to stamp it out in some way or another. What do you believe the price of bitcoin would be tomorrow if the govt announced it was banned without even lifting a finger at all to exert any force? Since bitcoin is not the unit of account of anything, the entire basis of it's value is derived from the ability to convert to fiat. Not that I believe they will actually do such a thing. It's obvious by this point they plan to try and co-opt it and slide in things like MIT chain anchor when you have vermin like Larry Summers and Bernanke promote it. It's too difficult for them to trick people into a cashless society slave system otherwise. They need them to do it voluntarily. As for metals, gold is still the unit of account of central bankers worldwide, and silver was the unit of account for the majority of people walking the earth for the last few thousand years. When the current fiat Ponzi system implodes, the Schelling point at that juncture will again place gold and silver at the forefront. When paper federal reserve notes stop being valuable, the first thought of what money could possibly be now is always going to be gold and silver, not bitcoin. Sure, bitcoin may or may not get a bump when the financial system implodes, but metals are the Schelling point. Like I said...way too much faith in the ability of "the govt" to accomplish anything. I happen to have worked for the government for the past 20 years. The amount of incompetence inherent in the system is astounding. The only way I survive is by making a game of seeing if I can be surprised by the stupidity of the day that comes from anyone with any power. I am fortunate to be given a gift that keeps on giving. |
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Ok, people. I'm tired of fucking around with ambiguous definitions: Is bitcoin decentralized? Does bitcoin have value? etc. I have decided to address these issues from proof of work to proof of stake where a normal human can easily quantify if Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency has value and whether it will live or die: http://steemit.com/steemit/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-14-defining-if-cryptocurrency-has-a-value-or-zero-value-from-a-fundamental-scientific-perspectiveIt's relatively short to read, but if you want the TLDR version, my stance is that proof of stake has no value whatsoever and I explain why, and proof of work with ASIC is almost functionally the same thing (externalized proof of stake) in practice and would also have no value. I don't think anyone will find a valid argument against this post. I've come to accept that you put far too much faith in centralized organizations to act intelligently and accomplish what they want to accomplish. If the central powers were as good as you give them credit for, we would have never needed Bitcoin in the first place. Not sure what you're referring to. As for the other guy talking about metals, due to the seasonal aspect of the metals market, I believe July is usually the best month to buy, then the market tends to pump from August onwards. If bitcoin was flat or down at that time, yea, it would be a good idea to dump bitcoin for metals. Silver is closing in on a wedge that I believe is going to break upwards hard long before August, though. Every reason you give for not liking Bitcoin tends to be based on some powerful government being able to methodically to stamp it out in some way or another. |
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Ok, people. I'm tired of fucking around with ambiguous definitions: Is bitcoin decentralized? Does bitcoin have value? etc. I have decided to address these issues from proof of work to proof of stake where a normal human can easily quantify if Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency has value and whether it will live or die: http://steemit.com/steemit/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-14-defining-if-cryptocurrency-has-a-value-or-zero-value-from-a-fundamental-scientific-perspectiveIt's relatively short to read, but if you want the TLDR version, my stance is that proof of stake has no value whatsoever and I explain why, and proof of work with ASIC is almost functionally the same thing (externalized proof of stake) in practice and would also have no value. I don't think anyone will find a valid argument against this post. I've come to accept that you put far too much faith in centralized organizations to act intelligently and accomplish what they want to accomplish. If the central powers were as good as you give them credit for, we would have never needed Bitcoin in the first place. |
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