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2961  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The History of the Roulette Game on: November 04, 2022, 02:36:58 AM
~snip~
You can read more about it here.
^In addition this is a complete history of the Roulette games until now. https://www.online-casinos.com/roulette/history
The concept will probably be the same but it was evolved over the years passed and until now it has become online not offline casino only and the good thing is they maintain the probability of the game. Probably before you can play a Roulette game if you are rich people that can go offline casinos and it should be you have a big amount, but now, it is for all because we can easily access it on the website and play.
Landbased casinos preserved this game. It is still being played the same way for decades. But in some online gambling platforms , it took a new form; some made it more complicated and some made it easier to visualize and understand. If I would be asked which one I preferred, I have 2 sides; new ones gives bigger odds because there are 'combinations'(?) which gives extra rewards, but older roulette games gives somewhat of nostalgia and true gambling experience. Feel free to correct me 'coz this is just as how I view this game.
Pascal's done alot of Wonders as I would sometimes feel uncertain on how to comprehend the whole phenomenon; behind his series, innovations, perceptions etc.... Just mind blowing. Yunno back then, everyone was highly intellectual so anyone who would wanna have fun exclusively, wouldn't expect having it as a piece of cake ( even with the fact that you spend your money on 'em). Just like his early inventions, he developed the roulette games in a very logical way that not just anyone could get away with that and, it happens to be one of the most VALUED games any casino would wanna venture into. Roulette? That has alot of criterias that the guru programmed just with the use of random integers.

Sandra 💇
Blaise pascal is indeed a genius. He's more into numbers and probability. What I like the most with his theory of probability is that; it can be showed using numbers and described using characters. It is somehow a midpoint between  real world and numbers. Lol.
It happened that he's really into enjoyment which is why he came up as well with this roulette.
2962  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A lottery's defense to not paying a huge winning. on: November 04, 2022, 01:22:31 AM
I came across a story on this thread about a lottery company refusing to make payments to a player who legally played a game with about $690 and won over $160,000 but was denied payment on the grounds that his winning data has been wiped out of their system.
Below is the link to the original story.
https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/
Link to the topic
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418121.msg61175078#msg61175078.

I just came across another news,where the lottery company, has now come to a defense of its action for not paying the winner his winnings with claims that winner was involved in irregularities. And that around 2019 he won a huge sum of money from them and now another winner from same outlet which was suspicious to them.
https://leadership.ng/lagos-lottery-coy-says-claimant-of-n72-2m-win-engaged-in-irregularities/

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?


I have read the article and the lottery has their side. It is simple, they resued to give the reward because they are doubting winner's betting behavior whether he cheated or not. The lottery only has to prove their claim against that man. However if they won't be able to provide strong evidence, then they have to pay the player. Doubting is normal given that they are just taking care of their business but atleast be fair. Let things go through the right process.

What's this shit I'm hearing??
So getting through a game twice, with a huge win means I'm not gonna get paid for it?? Is there a limit to a win that a user gets every 2,3, 4 years as the case might be? I don't understand.
Now they're backing up themselves in court to establish a fact that it should be the NORMS? Hmmm. They must have paid a huge cash to those juries if they get supported as that's not even one of their T/C's. Irregularities? What sort? If it's gonna go down the normal way, then that casino would pay the designated funds and also pay for damages and time wasted. I understand that they've had alot of losses that doesn't commensurate with their profits; one of which is Mega.

Sandra 💇
If ever they do so, that would be unfortunate. And on my end it is a weak claim they are throwing to the bettor because they are just suspiscious of that man. Provide evidence that the guy really cheated. Wiped out data is not a valid reason for sure there would be chance to recover if it is unintended but if it is, that would be the conflict of that man's end. I do hope that this case would be treated with equality on both ends. Gamblers are allowed to win as many times as they want as long as they are actually winning it. Might be luck or what, but they deserve to be paid if there are no proven cheating behaviors.
2963  Economy / Gambling / Re: How To Access gambling site without VPN on: November 03, 2022, 02:21:52 PM
It is also risky in my own opinion as the casino have control over your account by banning the account or not. If your country banned gambling then the casino will surely add your country in the list that are not allowed to gamble on the casino. So, I would only use this to check not for gambling.
We can access casino sites using VPN but if my location is blacklisted it will be very risky to gamble because casinos can freeze funds or ban accounts whenever they want, so there is no option to gamble using third party access to hide IP, unless you willing to take the risk and better use the minimum funds just to gamble for entertainment.
There are indeed tendencies for conlicts to arise using VPN. Some would say there are stable VPNs but I cannot trust tweaks really. There are VPNs which resets servers for a period of time which can cause problem with your funds. Much better if you would move to countries wherein it would be accessible, if you are really that down to play. Foolish indeed. You can also be patient and wait for things to go in favor with what you want. There are might be land based casinos or gambling places on your area as an alternative. There are other ways so as much as possible don't add risk to risk. I have friends who are using VPNs but they know that there are chances for problems to occur but they've just accepted the fact. So if you are like those guys, feel free to do so.
It is also risky in my own opinion as the casino have control over your account by banning the account or not. If your country banned gambling then the casino will surely add your country in the list that are not allowed to gamble on the casino. So, I would only use this to check not for gambling.
We can access casino sites using VPN but if my location is blacklisted it will be very risky to gamble because casinos can freeze funds or ban accounts whenever they want, so there is no option to gamble using third party access to hide IP, unless you willing to take the risk and better use the minimum funds just to gamble for entertainment.

I have used the VPNs that the Opera mini browser brings a lot, because I have downloaded many VPNs that slow down my PC and it does not enter, I cannot find a VPN that I can access and when I click on the location the site that I am entering appears, if I use a VPN from I get a prohibited country that I cannot enter, so it is very difficult for me to access it, taking this into consideration, how do they do it? I imagine that many pay VPN and that's why they can have access, but I don't do those things anymore because it scares me, if I have to withdraw and they don't give me the money because they detect that I'm using VPN then it would be a bad time for me .

Paid VPNs are the ones considered to be "stable" which gives them the idea (those who are using it) to use it as a bridge and to access gambling sites wherein their countries are prohibited. Matter of picking your poison. Works to some but I'm not sure if it would work to everyone.
2964  Economy / Gambling / Re: Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past on: November 03, 2022, 01:38:27 PM
Yes, it is a fact, for me the vulnerabilities of the past in a casino are very different from those that may exist now, the vulnerabilities that existed before were relatively soft and not as strong as those that hackers have developed now, in these times the things have changed, there is a greater degree of danger due to the fact that now computer viruses and everything that has to do with security in the blockchain, it seems to me that there are enormous amounts of bots that are also in charge of security, now the times have changed so they can build more trust in sites, also SSLs that help.
Every past vulnerability has been fixed but new era vulnerabilities are very high risk, so make sure your computer is free of viruses and malware by enabling anti-virus applications in real-time mode and always updating virus applications. The vulnerabilities of this era have many ways to penetrate the PC security system so make sure the PC is protected by high security features and avoid phishing sites because many new users do not know the difference between official and fake website links.
one of the vulnerabilities is hacking and scamming and identity theft.
the more people find the ways to secure themselves - the more the hacker gets the ways to find the way to scam people
 
Prevention is always better than cure. Not to brag but I've been gambling online for 3years already and I have not wncountered issues, personally, concerning hacking and scams. Not that long but atleast I am aware of how to prevent these things to occur. I am always careful with the sites I am accessing thru checking its legitimacy. If something is suspiscious, I never forced going through. Also with sites or platforms asking for personal informations. KYC is another thing I guess especially if the gambling site you are engaging yourself into is reliable ( I don't move that much because I am picky). Antiviruses are also not that expensive to save myself from regrets, so I am always updating my subscription. Last thing is not saving passwords and important informations in my pc and other devices (i tend to write em down in  piece of paper and store it away from other people).

2965  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Parents And Their Children In Gambling.. on: November 03, 2022, 10:43:20 AM
on the other hand, I am reminded of the old saying "LIKE FATHER LIKE SON". this parable describes what happened to Michael Jordan and his son Marcus Jordan. with the financial ability he has, spending this amount of money, is normal for him, as well as his son.

I guess what happened to his son was none other than what his father did. the child, has the privilege of the billionaire father. in other words, I have no answer to what this Marcus Jordan did. because after all, it was his father who gave him the privilege.
I think we have the same thoughts about the son of the billionaire, anyone wouldn't be surprised if he spent $50k a night and I think that's just pocket money used for his needs. Based on the article states that Micheal Jordan has a net worth of $1.6 billion, so I don't need to explain anything about the amount of money his son spent.

But regarding the conclusion, if we are asked how strict the parents are if you are positioned in the status of a billionaire and you have a habit of gambling, so will you forbid your son to gamble and will limit the money given to your son?
I would say yes, he is not yet worthy of gambling with adults and he should be in an age appropriate environment, but when he is an adult he will determine his own future and I as a parent will prioritize providing support for his future goals.
Those who are billionaires will have different means of spending their money. They will be addicted to different drugs.Because they have no account of money. They will be addicted to gambling. Sometimes they win twice or three times as much as they lose from gambling.But the question here is that it is not right to be addicted to gambling without being an adult. In my opinion if I am a millionaire I will never give all this to my children I will never indulge in all these activities. When the time comes for your destruction, you will suffer from various means. If you want to go well in life, you have to focus on different aspects.One thing to remember is that the wheel of fortune is not always the same. That can certainly change.
Addiction has no age. Wether you are an adult or not, everything which is too much should be stopped. Privillege indeed has many sides; you can use it as an advantage in life or it may consume you as an individual to be too comfortable with life and with lacking responsibility of different things. In this case, parents themselves are guilty of what happened to their child but let's end it that way. As long as they are aware between right and wrong, behaviors can still be changed for a better. If rehabilitation would be needed then so be it, because if nothing will be done in order to stop a behavior expect the worst such as leaving them all with empty-handed or them being uncomfortable with life without this activity which hooked them up.

Adolescents usually hate the things their parents are doing, and after twenty most men and women lead a lifestyle that is completely different from their parents'.

I think it depends on the kind of parents they had.  I never hate what my parents had done when I was an adolescent.  In fact, I admire them for their hard work and understanding.  I think the only thing teen ager hates about their parents is being strict.  But then it can be communicated.

What can I say? You've got great parents then, hard working to support you, and understanding, and that is also the support any teenager needs. After all, they weren't gambling addicts, were they?

But that's just your case. You are lucky, mate. Your parents served as a good example for you. In so many cases I know, kids survived only because they were doing the opposite to what there parents were doing. And I mean gambling addiction in the first place. Kids from such families don't want to even hear about gamling, let alone engage with it.
That's just sad reality. Sometimes curiousity will put you at risk from trying different things outside what is being thought inside a home. To experience something new is good but make sure you'd get through it. If not seeking help or providing the help to other people who you think are struggling to get out of such activities, will also do.
2966  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling techniques on: November 03, 2022, 09:55:53 AM
I would like to have you guys speaking about different gambling techniques so that we can exchange knowledge and improve our winning chances.

I'll leave my simple technique here and I'll hope you guys can leave some more!

I often use the stake doubling technique to several games. I normally do this with dice games and if it played correctly its profitable. What you have to do is simply start with a small stake and every time you lose you double your steak until you win. Once you win, you will recover all the amount you lost. This works if you have enough money to keep doubling your bet, so you should do your math and check with how much you should start. It is not infallible but it works.


Risky I guess. To some, they will end up with nothing if ever their capital isn't that bigm It is quite a matter of 'whoever has the biggest amount to gamble wins' kind of strategy. In my case, I don't use strategy in pure luck based games such as dice. Tactics won't worm if it is "not your day" in this category. In sportsbetting, i do research on the teams I am interested in, as well as their opponents because it would give me a clearer vision of the outcome. However this would only work in sports and esportsbetting especially if you are into that specific sports or game 'coz it would allow you to see different dimensions of the game, just to come up with a winning bet. Have never tried using it on other categories such as card games wherein strategies are working as well.

Only gamble with money you can afford to lose. Utilize money that is available to you. It is also worthwhile to set aside some of that disposable income for amusement and to utilize some of that money for gambling, and also when gambling, taking pauses might help you prevent Bet Regret. It is quite simple to become caught up in gambling if you have been gambling for a while, but you can quickly analyze if it is worthwhile to keep playing by tapping out of the app.
as long as we only focus on playing gambling just for fun, I don't think we will spend our other personal money, but it's no exception if we play gambling games to make money it's wrong and of course that way will make us unable to control ourselves playing overshadowed by curiosity, Any gambling technique can be used as long as we can control our emotions and control ourselves in the game


This is hard to maintain. You may start with this mentality because it is ideal. But I doubt it would be evident to many players on the long run. Eventually it would be money which would push you to continue playing because that itself is the reward from doing so. There are even prople who depends their daily expenses from gambling which is too risky. So as early as possible set limits as a gambler. Determine an amount you could REALLY afford losing.
2967  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: recommendation for gambling platform on: November 03, 2022, 08:40:06 AM
You can check each site's ANN thread so you will have an easier way to decide when it comes to picking a casino. There are lots of casino sites that you can find but you must check their reputation and the good service that they can provide. My personal recommendation would be Duelbits, Roobet and Stake. They are also being handled by a promising team.

Your way of giving advice is very good, I also agree with your choice, I would also like to add, apart from Stake.com, Bitcasino.io, and Sportsbet.io, they are really great platforms and they are getting a lot of visibility, in addition as you say, they have the unconditional support of trust and impeccable reputation, where their teams are the best, in their threads you can see almost like a family, I really enjoy playing on those sites and also entering their threads, well Most of the time they are very happy and they always listen to the community and take things that they ask for very seriously, there is always a lot to gain.

absolutely corect mate once you have a plan to enter to the casino especially here in bitcointalk.org forum its recommendable to vist thier Announcement thread it because it can help you  to know more about that specific casino how they manage thier casino how they response or handle thier customers. And the best thing todo if you are in announcement thread is to read the feedback from the other users.
I think that if a gambler is active in the gambling section of a bitcointalk forum and he looks at reviews of different sites, I don't think he needs to be told what is good or bad. He will be able to get a good and correct idea about different things. I deserve, it will provide the maximum support for a gambler.
Well, opinions would matter. Threads could be manipulated as well as feedbacks from their website right? Getting an opinion also does but that depends on who you are talking to. Making friends and building rapport will be a good move. Also, there are groupchats in different platforms which can be rooted from threads of this forum, wherein you can get answers by asking which are mostly community-based. Doing your own research would also help, but on my end, I'd more prefer using it as reference.

Another way is to base on popularity of a casino. A casino won't be popular for no reason; probably there's something into it. If it has a huge community then propably, playing into it would be a good idea as well.
2968  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Would a Nation of Sports Gamblers Look Like? on: November 03, 2022, 07:40:50 AM
At home, we have heard of wives refusing their husbands food and sex when the teams they support lose to their husbands opposing teams. Where is the competitiveness then?
This is too much, and I also don't see how a nation with majority of sport gamblers will promote competition. When different people have a common interest in an activity, it can lead to closer bonds formed. In a country where majority of the people gamble on sports, apart from all the bad it can cause, it also gives everyone a common topic that they can all relate to and foster better relationship. You can notice how easily smokers become friends, even people who drink, that's the same effect it will provide for a nation where majority of people sports gamble.
Competition? I see greed.
As mentioned in this topic, younger generation are also influenced by gambling to the exntent wherein reliance do now exist in their life. It became a culture- as it sounded to me. There's no right or wrong culture for sure but if it is based with greed, I can say that it is just a manifestation of wrongdoings. It is no longer solely to playing or act of gambling but their reliance to the prize from doing so which puts more weigh into such activity, and on the latter, makes them more affected of the outcome.


You can notice how easily smokers become friends, even people who drink, that's the same effect it will provide for a nation where majority of people sports gamble.

You are right with the smokers example you gave and how they quickly make friends but you have to know that smokers are not braggers. Gamblers are braggers. That is where the difference is. It is very hard for those who brag alot to remain in peace when they meet with those who also brag. This is what happens most times when gamblers meet.

I doubt with bragging. Gamblers are also sharing commonalities which makes them good friends, try to observe in a casino. They are all going along at first and things are just changing to worse once it is money which is in the 'middle'. Once there are people losing huge amounts, the tension will change. Far different with the comparison on vices wherein there's no such thing involved; only killing time. So I'm guessing this is quite irrelevant.
2969  Economy / Gambling / Re: Maybe Yet to be seen? on: November 03, 2022, 07:05:08 AM
Using NFTs in gambling makes no sense to me because there is no use to for NFT on a gambling platform in the first place, some are saying NFTs can be gifted to gamblers or can make gamblers want to play games on the platform just to win an NFT but how will such NFTs have value? This is why I think it's a bad idea.
Well, NFT and gambling are totally different things, but new gambling sites may offer NFT platforms within the gambling platform. They do this because they think that those who are interested in NFT will come to a gambling site and may gamble also while buying and selling NFTs. Similarly, they will market the NFT by saying that the gambling site is offering value added services like NFT trading, etc. By the way, I am not in favor of getting all the services under one roof (site).
I only know Rollbit with this kind of NFTs, they give more bonuses to every investors and now they allow gamblers to deposit any NFTs.
NFTs are being utilized now in many ways, this can be a good marketing strategy to attract old and new gamblers to try the site. This is good to those who are into NFTs and a gambler, probably many sites will introduce this because it became successful for Rollbit.
This is the answer to those who think NFT's are useless. They didn't know that NFT's are like a key to unlock more possibilities. That is how creative the people are. They can invent a new thing and then integrate it on the existing service they have only to make more money.

No one is forced to use NFT's anyway. If we found out that it will be implemented in the site that we are currently playing then we can also decide to abandon them if we are allergic with NFT's but for some who are already into NFT's, they will be glad about this this update. Now there is no need for them to use another site to interact with NFT's because it's already offered in a single place.
Statement is just valid; NFTs and Gambling are totally different things. But there's one thing which relates the two; money unless the concept of that nft is already about gambling because there is already a direct relationship. But with the first instance, sell your nft or make it as a bet (if possible) through p2p specifically to players who are also into it. Or simply sell it first then use the money to gamble. OP clearly knows only the surface of NFT. It has lots of potential as an asset specially to those which has utility for future and present purposes. There will always be a way for things to be used in relation with one another so NFTs are not merely useless but rather it can be used as resources.

There's an interesting article about it in telegraph about Degenpass

Limited-edition NFTs unlock access to crypto casinos

It is backed by BC.game, this is a very interesting concept as NFT and Web3 are on ongoing adoption, a member mentioned that Rollbit is also doing it, once it becomes popular and supported, we will see this feature on many casinos new and popular casinos, NFT is a growing market and they have a strong showing in the market.
This is what I refer to as utility. NFTs has different usage (well some has no utility) depending on its concept. Given that concept can be subject to the creator, ofcourse if there are gambling enthusiasts as well as artists in one, they may freely create something for gambling industry which could be useful  as well to the gamblers.
2970  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling winner identity on: November 03, 2022, 04:42:56 AM
He has his own reasons. It is possible that he is just hiding his prize from his family to avoid them slacking off and being comfortable with life or he has other plans which is why he decided not to tell them. At the end of the day, he is the one who won the jackpot and he has the rights of doing anything to his rewards.
These stories fascinate me. I understand that you can hide 30,000 USD from your wife, children and friends, if you like, but 30 million? Not a chance.

Maybe he could put it in his savings account or open another account to a different bank without letting his family know. Not to judge but I guess, he's not a high profile individual so we could assume his family as well. There are chances that his wife is not knowledgeable with banking procedures which gave him the idea to keep it a secret.

What troubles me is that, what if something happened to that man? Not hoping but just being realistic. Given that he did not mention it to his family, will his family be notified? If yes, then that would be promising on his family's end, but conflict may arise if not.
2971  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do think that POGO should be declared as legal or Illegal ? on: November 03, 2022, 03:54:53 AM
A gambling platform headquartered in the Philippines called Philippines Offshore Gaming Operations (POGO) provides gambling, betting, and E-casinos outside of the nation. Many POGO companies operate legally in the Philippines by submitting license applications to PAGCOR, but some people run POGO illegally, which is why many legal offshore gaming operations are branded as illegal. If the government shuts down this operation, many Filipinos will lose their jobs and the Philippine economy will suffer a loss of several billion pesos.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1672432/pogos-not-linked-to-illegal-online-gaming-says-pagcor

In my opinion, the POGO sector helps many Filipinos meet their basic needs and stimulates the economy, but having so many unlicensed offshore gambling establishments will harm the Philippines government's reputation.
Quite sad with the action by the government. Instead of focusing to those which are not registered to PAGCOR, they chose to consider removing every POGO firms in the country which I think is unfair because there are those who complied but they were also caught by the tension to those who illegaly operates. Indeed there would be families to be affected by doing so, and I hope things would be balanced.

But on my personal viewpoint, Philippines cannot really forcefully stop POGOs because the government benefit from it. That's how simple it is; things could be worked out as long as it generates money, sad to say. So maybe, bias would go to those registered POGOs to continue operating in Philippines. In my opinion, it is like with vaping and cigarette industries in PH wherein even if government are against it, they cannot stop its production because it has the largest contribution with taxation. And I believe it could go as well with POGOs.
2972  Economy / Gambling / Re: Do you bet ESports or table tennis? If so, this is a must read. on: November 03, 2022, 02:35:30 AM
If you are a scammer, you can stop reading now. I don’t have time for games.

Do you like money? Free money? Do you bet table tennis or e sports?

If so, you should contact me on TG @KindSoul111.

I have been restricted from many sports book websites lol

Without revealing too much information, I can assure you that we are as legit as they come. We will never ask you for a payment before making YOU money. We give you a pick, you pay us a percentage and we give you another. All bets win 99.999999999% of the time.

Once again, I am here to make money, scammers go waste someone else’s time.

Thanks for reading!

Stay safe and stay green.
The way you persuade other people creates an opposite message of what you are intending to have. It seems like you are forcing them in some way wherein your audiences may feel that it would be their loss if they won't message you, while on the other hand, you did not even supported your claims. You have stated huge win rate which is impossible as it sounded given that we are talking about gambling; in any form. From the word itself gamble, it would already give you an idea that nothing is assured. Odds can be manipulated especially in sports or even esports gambling but to make it reach to an assured win, is impossible.

Or atleast give your credentials if you are really wanting to invite more people on what you are trying to pull them in. It would be better on both ends.
That's unreal, and I'm thinking if you have won too much already, then why not just rest on your laurels and enjoy the fruit of your winnings?
Mate, you can never make enough money.

C'mon lets be serious OP.

If you are really printing money then why you need people involved in this?

As you mention 99.9% chance to win, then all in until you win millions with a zero lose streak, and if never is enough money for you, then just keep printing more until you get the 21Million bitcoins.

We know there is not a 99.9% win method, and if there is one, then the pay out will be really low, so, doesn't worth the shot. If you really have an always win method, then move ahead with it.

Lol read my post carefully my man.
I did read it. You are asking for trust from other people right? Let us say you won't scam them, but trust is not easy to earn. You might be thinking that those who won't trust you, won't earn profit. That would be a problem to you as well because you won't get what you are trying to achieve 'coz given that you asked for their trust, means you need them, therefore you need to be more persuading if you want them to trust you. Just my cent.
2973  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum deposit and minimum withdrawal. on: November 03, 2022, 01:24:10 AM
Someone with a strict budget of gambling with $10, decides to start online gambling after been told by a friend, but on signing up discovers that the minimum deposit accepted is above the amount budgetted for gambling. Does high minimum deposit fees from online casino discourage gamblers who want to stick to a budget and influences them to gamble with bigger amounts? If yes, and that perhaps is a reason behind many other online casinos keeping their minimum deposits as low as $1, Could low minimum deposit be an encouragement for people to come gamble regardless of the money they have to gamble? Does minimum withdrawal encourage players to try again and keep gambling if they don't win up to the minimum withdrawal?
Low minimum deposit and withdrawal may encourage people to gamble or engage into such activity because to most of the things, capital is the problem. If it would be low, it will give them the opportunity to experience or play the games of their interest. I guess, some gambling sites has high minimum deposits to keep the accounts active and to kepp their players. My idea is in line with banks wherein there should be a specific amount in order to withdraw our savings; amount less than that won't do. Another consideration on my perspective is the tax and transaction fees which should be an additional amount to the minimum deposit or withdrawal. These are just guesses so feel free to correct me.

But I haven't encountered gambling sites which are requiring that much for the withdrawal and deposit amounts. Maybe it also depends on the platforms or casinos themselves.
2974  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling house responisbilty to protect people data on: November 02, 2022, 11:43:03 PM
'House' implemented it so therefore they'd be accountable with it. This is the doubt which worries the gamblers; giving personal information to gambling website. All of us are ofcourse sfraid that our personal infos might leak and worse is to be used in illegal activities which might reflect to our records as an individual and citizen of a country.
I think that there's no specific regulation about that.....

Just take it easy. I think that publishing identity is not even being regulated by regulators.
How about the Data Privacy laws enacted? The European Union has GDPR and I'm pretty sure other countries outside also have their own version of it. What I'm saying is that it depends on where these casinos are operating or where their license come from. You'll have strict implementation of data privacy law if it's from Europe.
Unfortunately, gambling is not supported by governments of some countries. But to counteies wherein it is legal, gbling sites which freely operates are registered and are being taxed such as here in my country, if I'm not mistaken. They'd be required to do so because their gambling sites would be banned in an instant unless players would use VPN to gain accessibility but that won't avoid problems in the future in terms of transactions which might result to conflicts afterwards.
2975  Economy / Gambling / Re: I won 1500 dollars on a ufc fight + quit gambling on: November 02, 2022, 11:13:58 PM
If you're okay with that amount to quit already, there's nothing wrong with it. There's no specific amount requirement for a gambler to quit, that would be subjective. I remember before when I won my first semi-jackpot in dice, that was $400, and for me that time, that's already huge for a prize. I stopped for a month and moderately continued afterwards simply because I enjoyed the game, before switching to sportsbetting.

Better that you really stop gambling. Although you are being very lucky by winning huge prizes in sequence, expect this luck to go away anytime soon. So you must be serious about your decision of quitting gambling for now. If you are a smart guy and understand about money management you can grow the 10,500$ you have won by investing, so next year you will have more money to gamble, while keeping the profits from 2022 safe and generating more income for you. I believe you are playing a dangerous game right now and greed might be taking control of your mind. Stop while you can!
He’s not stopping at any moment, he keeps on winning and that’s why it will be hard for him to quit. I’ve seen several winning thread from him so I don’t think he will quit. It’s ok to continue to gambling as long as you can still control yourself, but if you think you are getting out of control already, better to seek help. Congratulations on your winnings OP, you’re so lucky.
Indeed, it depends on one's tolerance of losing and his sense of enjoyment. He won't stay for this long if he cannot afford it unless he is impulsively playing or is unaware that he needs to stop because of addiction. On the other hand, he might really enjoy playing wjich pushes him to continue and we just cannot blame someone because we have different sources of happiness.
2976  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much was your last big win? on: November 02, 2022, 09:53:45 PM
My biggest win was $1000 that was two years ago I cannot even consider it a good win because after the next few days I also lose more than that amount, thinking that I can win again and even double that amount I was devastated I resort to chasing my loss, you can hardly remember your winning when you lose a lot, but losing will make you a more controlled player while winning can temp you to bet more.
That means the biggest wins you've got in the end lose more than that amount. If you don't gamble again after a few days, you may still enjoy the big winnings. And that big win can indeed trigger you to return to gambling because you may think you can get another big win in the next bet. But the reality will not always be the same as what we think, so this is where it is important to have the self-control not to return to gambling after getting that big win. But hopefully, you can get another big win in the next bet and immediately stop and not gamble for a while and not be tempted to go back to gambling.
Some people believe that the luck they have in winning a game if they go back to play again they will still have luck to win again.  If he had enjoyed the money he won for some days and went back to play the game he would not have lost so big. It seems after he won he went back to double his game, that is why he lost more than what he won.
If they think like that, they better stop it immediately because it won't always give them victory. We can tell them to stop immediately after they win the game and enjoy the winning money instead of having to play and end up losing a lot of the winning amount. There is no point if, after we win a lot but we continue to play and hope to win more money because the result will not be what we want.
Unfortunately, that won't be easy;to stop playing as long as there is a drive for him to go, he will. But it is indeed wrong to push one's luck especially if it is a gamble because there's no assurance whether you'd win again or your winnings could be turned into losses. Satisfaction is the main key here;knowing when to stop and knowing when to play. It depends on oneself if he will risk his winnings because no matter how we push someone to avoid something, we cannot keep an eye on them 24/7, they'd do it still if they really wanted to, just like with any regular vices.

In doing so, i wonder how some gamblers set gambling as their main source of income for a living, why i said so is because i consider winning as not a perpetual or continuous process, it in most cases an occasional occurrence and living by gambling should be a thing of consideration because nit everyday the gambler wins, how will he be able to meet up with family daily responsibilities as father and for the singles how will they make some savings for a living, one can have a continuous loses on a stretch but to have it for winning has a slerk chances.
It is difficult to do this because gambling is not a job that always gets paid when it is done.
For me, winning in gambling is only a bonus from gambling because basically gambling is not to find winnings every day for the necessities of life because this is clearly wrong.
On the other hand, it is quite naive to rely on gambling because indeed we cannot do that even though there may be many wins but still the actual loss ratio is much greater than the wins.
This is also sad to some, wherein they are relying their daily living in gambling which is definitely wrong. Well in some fortunate cases, they do manage to be well-off with this routine but given that it does not happen to the majority, planning to di the same could result into something or the opposite to be exact. This is alike with people wherein they are using their salary in gambling with expectation that they money would be doubled, but ending up losing everything, pushes them to the edge, and eventually lending money to their relatives or friends. Quite cliche right? 'coz it happens a lot to many people.
2977  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Question to players: what does really drive you crazy in an online casino? on: November 02, 2022, 04:02:17 PM
Definitely huge rewards. If you are just into gambling excitement, then simply go to a land-based casino to play and kill time. But what makes online casino advantageous in dome aspects over casinos, except for convenience and being accessible at any time, are rewards on my end. Online casinos are giving free roles, incentives on invites and such which are being offered on real life casinos.

But ofcourse there are downsides of it still which is quite not surprising and is evident not only on online platforms but also to land casinos.
The most thing that makes me crazy about online is delay in withdrawal and kyc requirements, ie failure to verify kyc details when submitted to them and lastly delay delivery of deposit. What I don't really like is after winning and they published your winnings like not secure while dealing online so everyone casino should limit how to publish people's winning.
Apart from the delay in withdrawal there is another type of delay that drives me crazy. When you chat an one representative on an issue that could be resolved immediately from admin, but they will tell you to wait for 48 to 72hrs. For goodness sake it is annoying, just check your admin and solve this problem without making me to wait for another 3days.

I can feel you mate, I have the same issue as well and it took more than 72 hours to be resolved. It was about a withdrawal that I requested and they said that I have to bet 1x of my deposit and I actually did.

And it took time for them to really see how much I already bet and that I should have been allowed to make withdrawals. And the thing is that I think they knew that I could have been given the go signal to withdraw, but I have a feeling that they don't want me to, and they want me to bet again and again.
I agree . One example of its downside is the transaction speed. There are really delays especially on populated gambling sites because of congested networks, I guess. Also with the mode of payments especially to gambling platforms which are using third party wallets. It can be solved indeed but for sure it would continue to pop up, just a part and counterpart of being convenient to the players.
2978  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which Game Have You Won The Most From And How Much In Total? on: November 02, 2022, 03:36:10 PM
I wish I had kept better track of all my gambling winnings and losses over the year to have a nice summary now. For more than 10 years I have enjoyed online gambling, unfortunately I don't know how much money I won or lost over all these years.
This is common among gamblers, in my case I do keep records of the money I have spent while gambling, but even if I have an idea of how much money I have lost over the years I do not have the exact number, so there is no reason to worry too much about it as long as you have your gambling under control.

However it is never too late to begin to keep more detailed records, as they can always tell you if you have been spending more money lately and it can help you to notice at a very early stage any potential sign that you could be losing control over your gambling.
Never too late indeed but the bottomline is, if you are aware of your losses and winjing, would it be enough to hold you back from playing? 'coz for sure on our early years as gamblers, we were aware of how much we have lost but we continue playing. In reality we really cannot stop ourselves in a single snap, especially in addictive activities. What makes gambling addictive is the involvement of money which is enough to create a drive. Tracking your losses won't stop you if you are really into it,; you need to step further. Allot an amount or time that you would be spending for a day. Make it a habit and gradually change the behavior. It won't be as easy as it may sound but it would be better than tracking your loss.

Doing so could be a double-edged sword because it is either you would stop playing or your losses could push you to take back what you have lost, right? I have won to some games in gambling and most are sports and esportsbetting because that is where my interests are.I've lost track of my losses and winnings but for sure, my losses are bigger and that's better on my end than to think that I still have winnings and when that moment comes on your realization, you'd be surprised that in reality, your losses continue to grow.
2979  Economy / Gambling / Re: What is the best thing to do if this happens on: November 02, 2022, 03:01:14 PM
Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
Best way is to check if it is registered, then to check as well the people behind that gambling website if there are any available informations. You may also as for help to ither players for a tip of advice on what to do. If all of these won't work, there are chances wherein that specific gambling site is a fraud in the first place which made you 'win'. Harsh reality is that many people were victimized by these gambling platforms. It is not only the money they have lost but also the happiness it destroyed on the players' end. I've had a friend who was a victim of fake gambling site. He became greedy because most of the time he wins on his games without knowing results are manipulated. That gambling site is gone already at the moment but be careful because surely, there are lots of them.
Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

It happened to many users; the easiest way is to open the ANN of that particular site in this forum and post your complaint.

It is usually observed that site owners followups on such platforms and resolve the complaint. But for the safer side, please don't use the sitwhoseich reviews that aren't good by its existing users.

Agree.
If it won't get you back what you've lost, atleast you will be a help to those possible victims as well. It will just be unfortunate that you won't retrieve what they have 'stolen' on your end. Complaints won't work if it is not a legitimate site from the beginning, chances are owners running with those money. And again creating the same modus to victimize more people.

Prevention is always better than cure. It will just be a lesson, if ever this instance occured to you. A lesson that if it is money which is involved you have to be more careful on entrusting your assets to other people or platforms.
2980  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Zero KYC tolerance gambling platforms on: November 02, 2022, 02:32:07 PM
It is almost impossible to get any casino(online) with zero tolerance to KYC,
Most times the details provided during the KYC are kept private without the interference of a third party. And most of this details are used to prevent money laundering or any financial theft through their platform.
But I see no reason , why someone with a clean heart and intentions be scared a d worried over KYC?

Almost impossible, but not impossible at all, we still having some casinos like Just-Dice who allows multi accounts, bots, and they never ask for KYC. If you use the alts or the bots to try to damage the site, they only ban your account, but even banned accounts are allowed to withdraw. I would say is the last one of that freedom casinos types.

From my point of view casinos shouldn't hold the uses money for KYC, but we are playing with their rules. It's how it works nowadays.
This is lovely, a casino company would still allow you to withdraw your funds even after banning your account? This is lovely and encouraging, and I will try them out for this reason. This is such a service you might not even get from the so-called KYC casinos, they are just enforcing the KYC to make people think they are legit, but many of them are as dubious as anything.

Nonetheless, KYC is important especially when the company is operating from a sane country that does not take lightly money laundering.
Problems may really arise if a gambling platform, especially online, won't require KYC upon registration. One main problem are bots as mentioned by other players here. But same thing goes for implying KYC. Ofcourse we cannot blame those people who are not really into such procedures because they are protecting themselves from further conflicts. We cannot blame them because such problems exist. In some cases, bad people would use personal information of someone to wrongdoings. Indeed there is confidentiatlity and agreement between the player and platform but how sure are we that no one would really be close to your infos? Which gives them a valid side  But uf you are into that specific site, you have no choice but to comply.

Is KYC verification very important to crypto gambling websites or this has something to do with their regulations rule? Where can one gamble with zero verification requirements?

Now days what we saw in other casino they do more kyc at this is more important to secure the money while you are depositing in them but also we need to be aware that in the world of gambling we encounter a lot of casino that promising that there's no KYC but when you deposit then play and wok some prices then they said that you need to pass those KYC been ask by their facilitator so it's important to as to be aware.
Much better if you would ask fellow players within this platform just to be sure if nothing or something happened before proving the informations. This is to somehow gauge the risk an individual is afraid of. In my case, i'm fine with KYC. The problem on my end with regards to this, is the time it consumes in some platforms but if it would be aided, I've got no problem with this policy.
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