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I remember the first time I smoked crack. I know right? Either BTC would have to be $250k or ETH would have to be $1200. One of the numbers must be a typo. |
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Who is manipulating the market? Where is all that money coming from? Big Whales? Wall Street? Fact for me is, it wont end well. If BCash could achive 4k before the Fork, I´ll sell mine.
I think all of the money is coming from all the people who sold on the way down. It isn't necessarily new money. There is still a lot more old money waiting on the sidelines or in alts too. I thought that too. But it does not make much sense to me. Why not buy at the bottom at 6k? Instead wait and now buy at 9k. Not everyone has perfect vision. It's rare that you make your moves at the exact bottom or top. Why did they sell on the way down anyway? A lot of that money thinks we are still going lower and so they will wait. |
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Who is manipulating the market? Where is all that money coming from? Big Whales? Wall Street? Fact for me is, it wont end well. If BCash could achive 4k before the Fork, I´ll sell mine.
I think all of the money is coming from all the people who sold on the way down. It isn't necessarily new money. There is still a lot more old money waiting on the sidelines or in alts too. |
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#1. Your scenario doesn't matter because that isn't what happened and it doesn't matter anymore, also, see #2
#2. If bcash had forked at the same block as bitcoin, you may have an argument as to which is which but it didn't so bcash is the fork. You can't change how it happened.
Jesus christ man. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_methodYou're beat just stop already. You can't rewrite history to suit yourself. I understand that there are many scenarios in which bcash "could" have been declared bitcoin but those things didn't happen. We are not discussing what may or may not happen in a fork situation, we are talking about what actually happened which is bcash forked from bitcoin. End of discussion. |
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Bcash is a fork. Bgold is a fork. These are forks of Bitcoin. This is the least complicated thing ever.  Let me be clear guys. I share your opinion. It is my opinion as well that bitcoin core is the real bitcoin. All I am arguing is that that is my opinion and not a fact that is in some way objectively valid. In what fundamental sense is bcash different from bitcoin core that makes it the fork and not bitcoin core the fork of it? Bitcoin core has changed the consensus algorithm too just like bcash. We used to not have segwit enabled and bcash used to not have massive blocks. One isn't "the fork" they are each forks of the other. #1 Ok, here is an argument for you then. When bcash forked, the market made a choice and declared bitcoin, bitcoin when the value stayed in bitcoin and did not transfer to bcash #2 Here is another one, bcash changed the difficulty adjustment mechanism (block #478559) before bitcoin activated segwit (block #481824) and was therefore a fork of bitcoin at that instant. Then, even if you want to say segwit is not bitcoin, bitcoin forked from itself at block #481824 and then won the fork with itself and became bitcoin Did I dumb it down enough for you? I mean I hate doing this because it's getting really boring and I feel like everyone here should have just understood what I was saying by now but: #1 So it's a democratic thing? Because I can tell you some of the value did go to bcash. So the fact that more went to core is what made it "the real bitcoin"? So if 51% had gone to bcash you would have reluctantly agreed that it was the real bitcoin? Even though ver's ideas are garbage? What if bcash slowly gains more and more and gets to over 50% in the future? Does it then become "the real bitcoin". If the value bounces back and forth back and forth between 49% and 51% relative to each other does the "real bitcoin" change every day as the value changes? Even if I don't go this route and accept your reason. Even if I allow that "the market decided" why does the market get to decide? You still have to say why. You can't just declare it. It just so happens that I agree with the markets decision however If ver's garbage vision for bitcoins future had won out in market capitalization after the fork I wouldn't have accepted it as "the real bitcoin" just because it had slightly more market cap. I would be here saying that core was the real bitcoin in my opinion even though it was slightly less capitalized. #2 If that is a real reason, than you would have to say that you would call ver's version of bitcoin "the real bitcoin" if the roles had been reversed and core forked first instead of cash forking first. Are you really prepared to stand behind that? Anyway I'm getting really tired of this and really annoyed that there isn't one single person to step forward to say that they understand what I mean. Even though I really do believe in what I am saying and I think that I have good arguments behind it even I am starting to feel like a troll at this point. So I think I am going to disengage from this pursuit. #1. Your scenario doesn't matter because that isn't what happened and it doesn't matter anymore, also, see #2 #2. If bcash had forked at the same block as bitcoin, you may have an argument as to which is which but it didn't so bcash is the fork. You can't change how it happened. |
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Bcash is a fork. Bgold is a fork. These are forks of Bitcoin. This is the least complicated thing ever. Let me be clear guys. I share your opinion. It is my opinion as well that bitcoin core is the real bitcoin. All I am arguing is that that is my opinion and not a fact that is in some way objectively valid. In what fundamental sense is bcash different from bitcoin core that makes it the fork and not bitcoin core the fork of it? Bitcoin core has changed the consensus algorithm too just like bcash. We used to not have segwit enabled and bcash used to not have massive blocks. One isn't "the fork" they are each forks of the other. #1 Ok, here is an argument for you then. When bcash forked, the market made a choice and declared bitcoin, bitcoin when the value stayed in bitcoin and did not transfer to bcash #2 Here is another one, bcash changed the difficulty adjustment mechanism (block #478559) before bitcoin activated segwit (block #481824) and was therefore a fork of bitcoin at that instant. Then, even if you want to say segwit is not bitcoin, bitcoin forked from itself at block #481824 and then won the fork with itself and became bitcoin Did I dumb it down enough for you? |
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"the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.
Someone give this man a deMerit^ I am not defending Ver and his trash coin. I am as adamantly opposed to BCash as anyone here. All I'm saying is that any argument that you make that one bitcoin is objectively "the real bitcoin" breaks down. You sir, need to lay off the crack pipe Well then make an argument for why your preferred fork is "the real bitcoin" that is not based in opinion or some sort of logical fallacy. Some things are self-evident |
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"the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.
Someone give this man a deMerit^ He was going so well at not being a troll too. No I am not trolling. I really do believe what I have said and it is a conclusion that I arrived at after significant contemplation. Well, you really need to see a doctor and get medicated for your condition then. |
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"the real bitcoin" will, unfortunately, always be a matter of opinion not fact.
Someone give this man a deMerit^ I am not defending Ver and his trash coin. I am as adamantly opposed to BCash as anyone here. All I'm saying is that any argument that you make that one bitcoin is objectively "the real bitcoin" breaks down. You sir, need to lay off the crack pipe |
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Asshole spewing vulgar idiocy...
Wow, what vile nonsense. /Ignored |
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very quick short list for a small "game list" or how i have to call it..... only when breaking 12288 dollar price..... almost same rules as the list before just a winning date AND .15 BTC for correct date only accounts with minimum 5 Merit and 20 activity (last time to many new pop't up ) LIST CLOSES tuesday 12 CET allways CET time no execptions just for quick enjoyment normal tommorrow i look @the dates.... firts one posted has the choosen date , some one with the same date have too take another one so look out a bit.... DATES sended in PERSONAL MESSAGE will NOT count let us break back 5-digits I'll take June 20th, 2018 |
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What a fucking shit show. Looks like 2018 will be another 2014.
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I find it interesting that the story about craig wright being satoshi has resurfaced again.
Not only in this thread, but I saw a few more topics on the forum today. I am not a veteran in the crypto space like most of you are, so I do not know if this has happened many times before. But I have noticed that certain news stories(if you can call them news) get recycled every once in a while. Which has an impact on newer people in crypto. Perhaps creating uncertainty or doubt?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark Billionaire philanthropist and Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates said no technology has "caused deaths in a fairly direct way" to the extent that cryptocurrencies have. He said that the ease with which people can anonymously buy drugs is a major problem, and suggested that cryptocurrencies are used to launder money and fund terrorist organizations. Gates also added that "the speculative wave" around initial coin offerings and cryptocurrencies is "super risky." Oh the horror! Law enforcement will actually have to do its job again rather than just choking off the money supply and/or convicting violent criminals of money laundering instead of their actual crimes. |
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It seems like every time one of the US regulatory bodies gets an opportunity to talk about the crypto space, it is positive. It makes you wonder why they are so supportive?
Now, law enforcement is a different story. Individual officers are just trying to get awards and medals for arresting people. Whenever there is a gray area, there is an opportunity for an inventive law enforcement officer to make a move to better their career standing. That isn't necessarily in line with the government's desires.
Why is the US Government so supportive?
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If history is a guide, we are due some pain.
Except, Korea doesn't care. Every time we go down, they just increase the gap. They will lead us higher. When they are even or less than western exchanges, then we might have to worry. *Also, this website has an onkeyup function in this posting box which means they are capturing keystrokes. Be careful with what you type here. <textarea class="editor" name="message" rows="12" cols="60" onselect="storeCaret(this);" onclick="storeCaret(this);" onkeyup="storeCaret(this);" onchange="storeCaret(this);" tabindex="2"></textarea> Good point. Perhaps I should be mapping the arbitrage gap to Korea instead. But does Korea really lead or just follow at a higher price? I don't know if they lead or lag but the gap seems to increase whenever we go lower. That seems to indicate they are willing pay an increasingly higher price. (real demand) |
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If history is a guide, we are due some pain.
Except, Korea doesn't care. Every time we go down, they just increase the gap. They will lead us higher. When they are even or less than western exchanges, then we might have to worry. *Also, this website has an onkeyup function in this posting box which means they are capturing keystrokes. Be careful with what you type here. <textarea class="editor" name="message" rows="12" cols="60" onselect="storeCaret(this);" onclick="storeCaret(this);" onkeyup="storeCaret(this);" onchange="storeCaret(this);" tabindex="2"></textarea> |
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It is a little mind boggling that anyone would sell during the weekend knowing they could sell for 10-20% more on Monday. Can a bear explain the mentality?
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