They have the right to choose if other individuals may carry weapons onto their property, but by denying them that ability, they are taking responsibility for their defense while on their property. In a public space, or a space not owned by the individual, no such ability exists. There is no implied agreement of protection when an person is allowed to enter a private property (in this case, a school). Unless the owner explicit offers the protection, the property owner do not have any moral obligation to defend an person from an physical threat. However, the person have the full right to react as he/she thinks necessary in face of any physical threat. If you take away my ability to defend myself, you are taking the responsibility for that duty. You may not see it that way, but that is the truth of the matter. nobody is taking anything away from you. just dont enter that private property if you dont agree to the terms. i thought ancap is all about voluntary contracts... the word duty shouldnt even be in the vocabulary of any ancap-believer. |
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@chefin
so ungefähr sieht das aus, wenn man alte erfahrungswerte auf neue technologien anwendet.
@2weix
deine theorie scheitert imho schon daran, dass bitcoin technologisch schon gar keine extrem hohe umlaufgeschwindigkeit erlaubt. die maximal transportierte geldmenge gemessen in einer fremdwährung hat ja schonmal durch market cap und bestätigungszeit ein hard limit. dazu kommt noch die maximale menge an transaktionen pro block.
weiterhin hat bitcoin den höchsten nutzwert, wenn man welche hat. die immer noch relativ hohe geschwindigkeit, mit der man bitcoin bewegen kann, spielt ja nur eine rolle, wenn man schnellen zugriff darauf hat. d.h. man muss die ganze zeit geld bei einer institution parken, die schnellen tausch in bitcoins erlaubt oder man hat bitcoins.
es macht also viel mehr sinn, dass sich bitcoin auf einem hohen niveau einpendelt als auf einem niedrigen. deshalb halte ich es für erheblich wahrscheinlicher, dass es relativ viele gehortete bitcoins geben wird zusammen mit einer relativ kleinen, veränderlichen menge bitcoins, die häufig in bewegung ist.
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i voted option 1.
i dont feel that protecting some items of mediocre value is worth getting into a firefight. if robberies were a real problem in my neighborhood, i would get insurance and just hop out the window. or better yet, move to a different neighborhood.
same goes for the robber btw. property crimes are not associated with long jail time in germany, so killing some guy to eliminate the remote chance that you are identified would be really really stupid. if i were a robber i certainly would not carry a firearm either.
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in germany, a country of 82 million people, the whole police force fired 36 shots total last year, resulting in 6 deaths. ergo: sorry, i really dont feel like the target audience for this kind of propaganda  |
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For example I dont know of any mass shootings in New Hampshire.
dont you need a mass for mass shootings? |
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How about responding to the argument?
what argument specifically? btw: the guy says "his side" is the one being always open to debate while also saying god himself gave him the right to bear arms. what exactly is there left to discuss with such a person? |
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the guy is stupid, ignorant and paranoid... and not even in an entertaining way.
and judging by his gestures and facial expression he also has serious anger issues.
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erstens: diskutiert nicht mit seeder. zweitens: begreift doch endlich, dass der nutzen von bitcoin sich zwangsläufig zuerst im digitalen bereich entfalten muss. drittens: redet bitte nie nie wieder von stabilen kursen. bitcoin wird auf etliche jahre hinaus nicht kursstabil sein können. das zu erwarten, ist in etwa so, als wenn man in australien ein paar von einer neuen krötenart aussetzt und hofft, dass es fünfzig jahre später immer noch genau ein paar dieser kröten gibt. stabilität gibts bei 0 oder bei millionen kröten, nicht dazwischen. viertens: ja, neue art kröten, ganz schlimmer witz, ich weiss  |
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Culture and history are integral to any solution, certainly.
America has an estimated 300 million guns within its borders.
If, hypothetically, all those guns were rounded up and eliminated, criminals and the mentally ill absolutely would have reduced access to guns.
However, outside that scenario, any amount of gun limiting can negatively impact lawful citizens while not materially impacting access to criminals and mentally ill.
in a way, you are saying that the usa is, regarding guns, fucked up beyond repair. i can agree on that. |
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actually quite the opposite. how can the most biased opinion possible further a rational discussion? oh wait...what rational discussion? |
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He's not denying that the conditions exist. What he is denying is that they are illnesses. A more accurate term would be injury.
how is that even relevant as long as he doesnt point out what implications that distinction should have, in his opinion? |
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maybe you should make another sockpuppet before you run out of list space. plus its always better to multi-ignore people.
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Ich bin Nichtraucher und sehe nicht ein, warum ich für die 3 Raucher in meinem Freundeskreis Zigaretten kaufen sollte.
Weil Du damit der Bitcoin WIrtschaft enorm helfen würdest, und deine Freunde einiges an Geld sparen können! wer kauft denn bitte zeug für andere, das er nie selbst getestet hat? wenns probleme gibt, macht man sich im freundeskreis sicher ganz groß beliebt. btw: ich finde die ganze idee des ums-verrecken-was-mit-bitcoin-kaufens irgendwie total daneben. entweder bitcoin hat in bestimmten bereichen tatsächlich vorteile, dann wird man entsprechende angebote schon aus eigennutz wahrnehmen, oder das angebot hat nachteile oder gar keine potentielle kundschaft hier. dann sehe ich auch nicht ein, irgendeinen händler, der gefriergetrockete kiwischalen zum massieren von meerschweinchenärschen für 15€/stück verkauft, irgendwie über wasser zu halten, bis sich die innung der meerschweinchenarschmasseure von den vorteilen von bitcoin überzeugt hat. |
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ahhh, i totally forgot about that one. if anyone has a leftover bundle, i would gladly take it.
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a) Data for developing countries is really unreliable unless you collect it yourself. Do you believe those numbers for Haiti, Somalia, and North Korea? Who the hell measures homicide in these countries. This is UN Data. I'm inclined to believe it is at the very least, unbiased. Also: LOL@ North Korea being considered a "developing nation." you really think the UN checks data from somalia or north korea? b) There are too many other differences between the units of observation for country-level comparisons to be meaningful. Ideally, you should pick units that are as similar as possible except for differences in gun ownership. Per capita is per capita, there's no difference there. If you want number of guns per 100 000 persons, just multiply the second dataset's numbers by 1000. Similarly, to get murders per 100 citizens, divide the first numbers by 1000. the same way you could prove that cannonballs arent more dangerous projetiles than plush bunnies. just include samples in which the cannonballs were thrown by little girls and the plush bunnies were fired by cannons. do some research into how statistics are interpreted properly. |
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I don't know where you got that from, I really don't. Typical fornit logic, I guess. I say, "Oh, look, this 20 year old broke a law that was supposed to keep him from having guns. Shame laws only work if you're law-abiding." You hear, "We should give the kids guns." LOLWUT?
Yeah, her not having guns would have meant he didn't get her guns. Would it have meant he didn't get any guns? No. And if you think he couldn't have gotten guns somewhere, think again. If you want a gun, you can find one, and the dude behind the convenience store doesn't do background checks.
well, in germany there are no gun dealers behind convinience stores. getting an illegal firearm is not a trivial thing for most people. give me a break, i just read 140 posts and didnt intend to do it again, so i just asked. honestly, i think the people advocating NAP are a crowd so aggressive....well, i wouldnt trust bitware, rudd-o or you with a plastic knife... |
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but not having any firearms in the house would have worked in both cases.
btw: did you really advocate that the kids in school themselves should carry firearms for protection?
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i would just like to add that bringing up the winnenden massacre as an example that this kind of situations can also occur when private firearms are prohibited is extremely weird. the shooter used one of his fathers legally owned firearms, who could obtain it legally as a member of a gun sports club.
there where several killings with very similar circumstances in germany over the years and the fact that gun sports is still a bit of a tradition in parts of the country is basically the only reason the laws are not stricter by now.
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how can you search inside a category?
btw: still very slow
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weil es wenig sinn macht, ständig gebühren und zeitaufwand für den tausch in bitcoin hinzunehmen und dann im anschluss sachen zu kaufen, die man wiederum einfacher für euro-bargeld gekriegt hätte.
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