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301  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apakah anda membeli koin meme untuk bull run selanjutnya on: February 16, 2024, 02:49:25 PM
Ya intinya kita jangan terlalu memfokuskan diri pada meme coin karena sama sekali tidak ada prospek yang bisa menjamin untuk keuntungan yang signifikan.-snip

Yup, seperti namanya, meme, jadi jangan terlalu serius dalam berinvestasi di sini hingga menggunakan ratusan dollar jika kita hanya memiliki uang ribuan atau puluhan dollar. Saya juga tidka menyarankan jika orang yang mau ke meme adalah orang yang tidak siap untuk rugi, mengingat 90% early meme adalah down dan rug. Untuk soal bullish atau bankrut, yang harus diperhatikan untuk menegahnya berharap terlalu banyak untuk early meme. selalu menanamkan keyakinan "saya loss, saya tidak sedih dan profit harus berani take profit kemudian move on, jangan ngintip harga token, yang sudah dijual agar makin tidak menyesal".

Intinya kembali lagi seperti yang anda katakan sebelumnya di atas bahwa kita boleh2 saja bermain atau berinvestasi di meme coin tetapi niatkan tindakan itu hanya untuk bereksperimen saja, jangan lebih dari itu dan jangan pernah menaruh keseriusan atau harapan apapun, saya yakin sebagian besar orang datang karena melihat keuntungan yang sangat menggiurkan tetapi hal itu setara dengan resikonya juga, dan saya yakin kalau anda terlalu fokus pada melihat keuntungan maka anda pasti akan mengesampingkan kemungkinan resiko yang sebenarnya bisa jauh lebih besar dan ini salah satu alasan mengapa ada sebagian investor yang menjadi korban. Ya dan juga kita harus menambah pola pikir seperti yang anda katakan disini dengan menerapkan kemampuan untuk mempertanggungjawabkan apapun yang sudah kita pilih dan kita putuskan sebagai tindakan pencegahan dan juga agar tidak terlalu menyesal. Menurut saya anda akan bisa melakukannya dan menerima semua fakta seburuk apapun kalau anda mampu melihat dan menilai meme coin ini secara rasional dan dari berbagai sisi, dengan ini saya yakin anda akan memahami yang sebenarnya dan tidak akan terlalu ceroboh.
302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The person who can’t control emotions in gambling will never earn money from it on: February 16, 2024, 12:57:48 PM
I really believe in this because obviously when you don't have the right understanding of gambling then usually people like to focus more on winning and on the other hand they are typical gamblers who are irresponsible in the sense that they are unable to accept the fact of losing at the end of the session, And this is where it all starts which is when you have a goal to earn then obviously when the end result is not what you expected then most likely the situation will heat up which is where you will prioritize emotions or have difficulty in managing and controlling emotions so that some out of control actions are very likely to do.

On the other hand I would not say that you will "always be able to make" money from gambling because after all this is a gambling activity where your money is at stake for the possibility of winning or losing, no matter whether you use a strategy or not it is still ultimately not certain that you will be able to win, but maybe by using a strategy you will be able to get a little closer to the possibility of winning but I will say that in the end whatever you do will refer to how lucky you are at that time, meaning you still have the possibility of losing.
303  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why are people getting scared to Trade on: February 15, 2024, 01:40:24 AM
I would not say that someone is afraid to trade but rather that they do not have the courage and are not mentally prepared to take risks, we must understand that in any case the risk will always be there and this applies in real life and not in the world of trading alone, when you are afraid to step up then there will be no results you can achieve, on the other hand people who succeed are those who dare to get out of their comfort zone and have a strong determination to step up, failure is always there but you will be able to develop and succeed when you are able to get through all the difficulties and failures in whatever you do and this is what people who succeed do.

Just like in the trading world, you will be able to benefit when you dare to take risks, and you will be able to get it when you are willing to learn and go through all the processes for the sake of progress, we must understand that making money is difficult and means that it requires struggle to get it, and maybe I would say that you will never progress in life when you are too fearful without trying at all.
304  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What contributes to a casual gambler becoming an addicted gambler? on: February 15, 2024, 01:20:54 AM
If you have anything else then do write it down on this thread.
When there is no caution to a casual gambler, they may never know that they need to be cautious and not gamble too much so they can keep their urge to gamble under control. Because there is no caution even from you who has more experience with gambling, and know that it is dangerous, it contributes to a casual gambler becoming addicted. As a more experienced gambler caution and warn the new gamblers who will listen to your warning.

But I think it is not rare or even a lot of gamblers who do not know the warnings about those who should be careful when entering and engaging in gambling, some of them may ignore some advice from others and some of them may never know about the adverse effects that exist in gambling so this can also be the right reason why in the end they can enter and get stuck in a cycle of addiction unconsciously, and they will only feel changes in themselves and their life situations where financial problems are always experienced. Honestly, I can't blame them for their wrong approach to gambling because they may have come to it intentionally or unintentionally which is also not based on a correct understanding of gambling. Of course it is advisable for gamblers who have a proper understanding of gambling to remind people who are stuck on the wrong path, there is nothing wrong with helping each other even in the smallest things because most likely it will save their lives from the bad effects of addiction.
305  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: February 15, 2024, 12:59:49 AM
I think you're right and when it comes to sports betting one should understand it deeply that there are two types of sport events which most gamblers don't even understand. One type of sports event is a real match happening physically somewhere in the world while the other type is a virtual game mostly played by players on computer.

I prefer physical type of sports events and avoid virtual type ones, one can also choose e-sports which aren't that bad but I don't bet on e-sports most of the time. I would say that betting on matches that physically take place can allow you to win more as a sports better while virtual sports events can cause you some loses. Most players don't know that and that's also a reason for their losses.

Yes I understand what you mean and maybe I will conclude that the two types of sports betting you mean are physical and online betting, on the other hand of course I as I said above that it is better for you to get involved in sports betting if you have a pretty good knowledge of the world of sports which will be very useful to help you in running bets especially to make the best decision according to the knowledge you have about the world of sports.

Honestly for that matter I really can't confirm that getting involved in physical betting is better than virtual betting, I think the chances of winning are the same, even though you bet on the type of betting that is online but when you really pay attention to running the match I think it's almost the same as when you bet live and for this problem really has nothing to do with whether you will win or not at the end of the session, but maybe the difference is that when you bet live then you will feel the chemistry of a match that is running.
306  Economy / Economics / Re: Save while young better than wait on: February 14, 2024, 02:40:40 PM
Look, you can be old and rich or young an poor, but being old and poor is bad shit.

A surefire way of doing the wrong kind of things is to spend your money early or try to live a good life quickly without thinking about the future. Or if you have an ok job or income to think that is enough, even if you cannot save.

All young people, understand that time an money are linked. It is not the same to invest early than late, it is not the same  to invest more early that try to invest more later. 100 is worth 100 today, but 800 in 20 years if you play it safe but well. Make no mistake, you will need to start creating your wealth.

It depends on the abilities of the person, some people already have a backup plan made by their parents or grandparents so they don't care too much but if you are a person who knows how hard to earn money and you already have experience and you don't want to get experience from your children you will enlighten them how ideally use to save up money. Also tips from people who have experienced this while you are younger, it's ideal to save up money so you don't have to worry too much when you get old. This thing needs to be taught in school how to manage money properly so while they are young they know what are the implications of having savings and getting financially free.

Yes that's true but however I think everyone also knows that having a good perspective and understanding how to value money is something that everyone should have, no matter what their background is, even if they are one of the rich but still life is spinning, you will not always have the upper hand and it is possible that one day you could lose everything you have and this possibility will apply to everyone. Therefore of course having a plan to save early is a good step for a precautionary measure, although this is not a complete formula to prevent you from bad possibilities such as bankruptcy but on the other hand having an emergency fund will at least be able to overcome a few problems that you are experiencing, and one of them will be very useful to finance your life needs when you experience things that are not wanted such as bankruptcy or other things, we must remember that the laws of nature will always apply and lurk.
307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: February 14, 2024, 02:14:45 PM
 And never decide to gamble with a loan. If you do, your situation may be similar to mine. so beware of gambling
This unfortunate experience from op has shown why it isn't advicible to use loan for gambling and as it has always been said, gamble only what you can afford to lose. Alot of people gets too greedy most times and take loans in other to win larger amount and probably in the taughts of paying back if they win.
Well we can all see what op had been through because of this irresponsible decision he had made. I hope he gets to recover soonest. Loans are easy to take but the fact that they are difficult to pay back most times is something that should limit ones taught from taking loans for something that is based on luck and have so much risk.
Gambling creates a manifest addiction in people and that is money addiction. Many people consider gambling as a money machine and place high amount bets here to win big and change their lives. By making such a plan, they do not hesitate to take risks like gambling by taking loans  op just got addicted like that. But when he lost his money he realized how big a mistake he had made. However, since he understands this, it will prevent him from making the same mistake in the Futures

Yes that's right gambling addiction I think it can be termed as money addiction, everyone needs money and they misunderstand what is meant by the opportunities that exist in gambling, they think that this place can give them a lot of money to change their lives but what happens is far the opposite where the rich can go bankrupt and the poor get poorer. It is always good advice to have a proper understanding of gambling because this understanding will determine your future fate in gambling activities which will indirectly have a positive or negative impact on your life, as we know about what actions are taken by gamblers who have entered the addiction phase, There is absolutely no doubt for them to do some actions that actually make no sense such as borrowing money just to gamble or committing other criminal acts such as stealing when they run out of money to fund their gambling activities, and all of this happens because of the hope of earning in gambling, this is the wrong mindset and point of view because gambling is not a place to earn.
308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: February 14, 2024, 01:28:29 PM
I actually don't really believe in gambling games like that which are full of luck without relying on any ability so I never try games that have a Jackpot there because it will definitely be difficult to win even though winning is very slim the chance will not be more than 1% and I believe that even though there are many of us I see people publicizing their wins, it's just part of marketing, nothing more, for me sports betting makes more sense and consistently wins more than gambling in a casino.
You're right sports betting makes more sense for me also and I personally place sports bets because in those games luck doesn't plays a very important role but still one should be somewhat lucky to win at sports events as well. In slots or the other casino games that are mostly dependent on our luck won't work for those who don't have a unique type of luck.

I think you're somewhat right that the ones who publicly announce their winnings might do it for the sake of publicity and marketing purpose only. But, I think some of them really get happy when they hit a huge jackpot and that's why they share their winning with us so others might get encouraged from their winnings.

Sports betting is like combining your skills and knowledge with luck, which means that by using the skills and knowledge you have, indirectly it will get you closer to winning, and obviously I also prefer and recommend anyone to bet better. types of sports betting, especially if you have good knowledge about the world of sports, indirectly this betting will allow you to save a little on your gambling budget because you will not always gamble full time because you will only bet when there is a match scheduled. , while in other types of gambling such as slots or others it is clear that it is very possible for you to have difficulty stopping because this type of gambling has properties that really stimulate the human brain and mind to continue playing and in addition it is true that slots are a game of pure luck which is simply put. if you are not lucky then you lose.

The point is that it is not easy to be in a lucky situation, let alone to get consecutive wins in this type of betting, and what happens is that as we know, losses dominate even more and this is the reason why I think it is better to bet on sports betting only. On the other hand, regarding the problem of those who announce their winnings, it is clear that this is an action to get praise from other people or a promotional action to attract more audiences, but on the other hand, if the person who publishes it is not a streamer or influencer who is always suspected of being a casino promotion agent then I think I agree with you that the publications they do are nothing more than to get praise from other people, including some friends.
309  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: February 13, 2024, 02:04:43 PM
So being directionally correct pays off even if there are likely to be some mistakes along the way. .and the mistakes may or may not be perceptible at the time that they are being made... there can be some questions or tensions regarding how much of a balance to keep in various accounts that we might create. .and questions about whether we can put off some expenses (defer them) or if we might spend time trying to earn more income or if we might set aside some value to prepare for dips, and how much value do we want to keep on the sidelines for preparing for dips versus just buying right away or spreading our BTC buys out over a whole week..
However, in the strategy that I have done, I am not too interested in focusing on setting up reserve funds to wait for cheap price because I tend to accumulate Bitcoin every two weeks. So I think I will get a chance that might be more accurate to get a cheaper price.
Saving up a reserve fund doesn't mean you will use it to accumulate bitcoin when the bitcoin price is in a dip. The reserved fund is the fund that will help you in the future to take care of your financial needs when you lose your source of income or job, so that you will not depend on your bitcoin investment to settle your personal needs.

Some of these arguments about what to call and how to use your emergency funds, reserve funds and/or float money may well be semantical arguments, but at the same time there can be some practicality in regards to how much cash anyone might build up in those kinds of funds and for what purposes they might assign the funds without ending up putting themselves into a bad situation in which they might use too many of the funds when actual emergencies might end up thereafter presenting themselves and they do not end up having sufficient funds in order to cover the possible emergencies for which they were supposed to be prepared.

Actually, no matter if you are involved in bitcoin accumulation or not, you still need to have an emergency fund or at least you need to think about a plan to build or have an emergency fund even though basically for example you are not involved in any investment including bitcoin accumulation, but I said that this emergency will be something very important that leads to a preparation as one of the precautions especially to overcome various problems. If it leads to the goal then obviously the most important benefit of having an emergency fund or having an emergency fund is as I said that the main purpose is to overcome some unexpected problems (one of the reasons why it is called an emergency fund) such as for example when you are involved in bitcoin accumulation by always using the DCA method and then at a certain time you experience an unexpected problem that makes you or requires you to spend a certain amount of money to solve the problem, and with the emergency fund then this will prevent you from ultimately not selling part of the bitcoin accumulation that you have been maintaining.

And on the other hand if you are not involved at all in the accumulation of bitcoin then the role of this emergency fund is also not much different as when you are in a bitcoin accumulation situation but maybe the difference is that your main goal is to prepare yourself when at any time you lose your job unexpectedly and clearly this emergency fund will be able to save you from the needs of life that cannot be tolerated. So clearly the emergency fund has a very important role in these two situations, namely either to keep the accumulation that you have been running so far to survive and / or to save you from the needs of life that cannot be tolerated even though you are not involved in accumulation at all.
310  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: February 13, 2024, 12:54:41 PM
If we spend more than 20 percent on gambling on a monthly basis then I think it is not in entertainment level. Because if a person invests 20 or 30 percent in gambling then he will definitely express his desire to make more profit from it. Which in turn may lead him to loss rather than gain. And if 10 to 15 percent is used it is definitely acceptable. A gambler will have big financial problems when he spends more money. At some point he decides to manage his gambling by borrowing money to solve his crisis. Which in turn will lead him to a terrible situation.
The percentage amount will depend on each person and how willing they are to use their money to gamble. Maybe 20 percent is an amount that he can afford and is still reasonable for gambling, while others think that 20 percent is not a good idea for gambling every month. Well, there is no ideal limit for each gambler because they will use different percentages in gambling, so that is not a problem. As long as they can gamble responsibly and control themselves, 20 percent might be enough for them to gamble, and maybe they won't use the 20 percent but under 20 percent. But if he decides to borrow money to gamble, that is not recommended because it will cause more problems for him. He should take care of himself while gambling so as not to use much money.

I guess you are right, it depends on each gambler who percept their gambling capabilities, I think people who wanted to use their money with full responsibility have their own view to how much money they wanted to use to spare for their gambling, if for someone they can afford to take 20% as long as they are capable to control and manage not to exceed then  it is still good.

But in terms of irresponsible gambling, they can exceed and they can messed up ruining their finances including money that they loan.

That's the danger if you don't kow how to control yourself when you are involve into gambling.

Yes, that's right, regarding the amount of money you want to allocate to gambling activities, it all depends on each person's ability, but on the other hand I wouldn't say that this depends on each person's financial strength, because if that's the case then it means they will invest an amount that corresponds to the size of their salary or income in the sense that it is definitely quite a large amount for them, and what I mean is that this amount refers more to depending on their point of view on gambling, no matter how rich they are, if they understand that gambling should not be done excessively then it is clear that the allocation of money that they will bet will definitely not be a very significant amount for them and the point is that they can be responsible for losing.

In my opinion, putting 20% is too big for gambling, because I'm not sure that 80% of your remaining income can meet all your needs in a month. Basically, I really feel that there are always unexpected expenses, such as maybe needing money urgently or something. you suddenly experience illness or something else, and in my opinion it is better if we just put 10%, this is what I always do by dividing 50% of income for needs for a month, 10% for gambling and the other 40% for the following emergency fund also by saving. On the other hand, for gamblers who do not have responsibilities, it is clear that they are typical gamblers who are unable to manage their gambling activities and are very likely to end up taking loans without considering it first.
311  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: February 13, 2024, 12:20:36 PM
~snip~
 There is nothing bad in people having the initial mindset of trying gambling since there's always a first time for everything but making them more trouble is unacceptable and it's a sign that gambling is not for such people. However, the situation can still be mitigated if the gambler understand that he/she is in trouble with gambling and needs help.

Yeah, just like alcohol, many people have tried it and never really continued drinking.

Same with gambling.

Some people enjoy gambling from time to time just for a bit of fun, but they are not at all addicted, whereas others are completely consumed by it.

I think I read somewhere that there is a genetic predisposition to some addictions, so watch out.
Those who gamble without having issues of addiction as you explained are the people who understand the concept of gambling and have the maturity to accept the facts about it. This gives them the ability to play the rules of gambling profitably.
About genetic predisposition, the case is arrear but it is possible due to genetic emotions which can be triggered by gambling stress

True, I completely agree with your idea that the people who are now safe without experiencing problems as a result of gambling are those who do have a proper understanding of the concept of gambling, they understand that gambling is nothing more than a profit-making activity in the sense that there is absolutely no guarantee and certainty of anything that can make you win at the end of the session and of course it means that the end of your gambling session is always unpredictable.

So for this reason they prefer risk management rather than gambling with the aim of earning due to the chance of winning there, because it is nothing more than a chance which means only a possibility and not necessarily can actually happen, therefore they prefer to be responsible gamblers whose intentions and goals are usually only for entertainment. However, the possibility of risk is always unavoidable in gambling and this is why it is advisable to gamble in moderation and not force things or overdo activities that have no certainty at the end of the session.
312  Economy / Economics / Re: New business idea. on: February 12, 2024, 07:43:02 AM
businesses also look at the place and what factors make the goods sell, so if you see someone's business is successful it means he has predicted what will sell there, for example people will not buy ice cream in snowy/cold weather.
Whatever business we are going to do, it will be adjusted to the situation and environment where we are going to do business, because the environment will always have the main influence on all elements of running the business. After that, it is clear what funds must be prepared.I agree. If you do business with basic necessities, there may not be a problem because it is a primary need, but if you trade in other things, then you have to adapt it to the environment to see if it is acceptable. If it is acceptable, then it will be successful.It is indeed not easy to carry out because all aspects must be considered carefully so as not to be disappointed.

That makes sense, because there is indeed a match that must be considered, such as opening a food business that is better opened on the edge of the city street or on a road that is really an active road every day many people pass by, not opening a food business in the middle of a quiet place because it will not generate profits even those who will buy it may not exist. Just adjust if indeed the business that is owned or run requires a dirty kitchen then it doesn't matter if you open the dirty kitchen in a quiet place and there is a place that is owned in a strategic place for marketing.

With the current time in my opinion many people are competing to open a business, I am happy to see this because with this people become excited indeed with the fact that we have to survive, yes doing business that will generate profits is one way to survive because basic needs must of course be fulfilled. But before starting a business we must be able to pay attention to related aspects, including the knowledge and skills we have. We must have good knowledge and good skills also with the business being run because it can determine the business that will be run can run well or not.
313  Economy / Economics / Re: Save while young better than wait on: February 12, 2024, 07:20:30 AM
Look, you can be old and rich or young an poor, but being old and poor is bad shit.

A surefire way of doing the wrong kind of things is to spend your money early or try to live a good life quickly without thinking about the future. Or if you have an ok job or income to think that is enough, even if you cannot save.

All young people, understand that time an money are linked. It is not the same to invest early than late, it is not the same  to invest more early that try to invest more later. 100 is worth 100 today, but 800 in 20 years if you play it safe but well. Make no mistake, you will need to start creating your wealth.

it's true that while we are young, use our time as best as possible and make as much money as possible because what will help us in the future is ourselves creating wealth from now so that we can enjoy our wealth in the future. There is no such thing as getting rich quickly, don't be lazy so that when we are old we are not poor and don't waste money, start investing now and respect things called time and money

At a young age of course there are those who say it is a fiery period, therefore there is nothing wrong with having fun too but don't have too much fun too because there is a future that must be thought of with a young age because I occasionally hear parents who say "while you are still young work hard so you don't regret it like me" this I occasionally hear it with these words as if slapping me where I am indeed required to work hard at a young age so as not to experience a bleak future.

It is true that there is no quick way to get rich, although there are some people who believe they can get rich quickly and believe in things that can make them fast it is impossible, because we know that to achieve success, of course, there must be a struggle and process, therefore we must work hard in order to achieve wealth. I agree with you, respecting time and money well is a must, because many young people tend not to be able to appreciate these two things because they tend to only think about temporary pleasures.
314  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: February 12, 2024, 06:31:24 AM
Well right, while on the other hand they have full responsibility for the time and work they have, meaning they really can't gamble when they are on work time because obviously if we look in terms of consequences then it can be fatal, as you said that the boss will not be happy when he sees his employees doing other things during working hours and especially if the activity is gambling which gambling has a very negative point of view in the eyes of society so the boss will definitely be much wiser in terms of making decisions, the first possibility is probably yes you will get a warning and if the next time you are caught making the same mistake by gambling during work time then I think it is clear that it is very likely that you will lose your job or simply be fired.

This is what happens when you do something without careful consideration, as I said earlier that gambling in the workplace is a very careless or stupid decision and action. And there is no other advice other than you must really be able to divide your time according to portions, if it's time to work then focus on work and if you are on vacation then obviously you are free to do anything and one of them might be gambling.
And if you don't carry out your responsibilities at work then you will get a warning because you are not professional at work. Which boss allows his employees to do whatever they want? because I'm sure every company must have certain rules where employees are not allowed to do things such as gambling, smoking, drinking alcohol while working because this will interfere with their main job, especially if you work in an office, this will really affect your work reputation. However, if you work outside the field and are free and not supervised by your superiors, you can do it secretly without your friends knowing because you are not in the room and your friends might don't know.

However, even so, that doesn't mean you can avoid the risk of losing your job because maybe one day your boss will find out if you gamble during working hours so this will cause problems for your job and you will also be threatened with being fired, so it is true, as people here suggest, that avoid gambling temporarily while working because work is more importants than just gambling.

Yes and that means it is a very stupid decision if you do anything else let alone gambling during working hours which at that time you have full responsibility to focus yourself on the work provided by the company, we have found that the best solution to the discussion we have discussed here is to never do anything else or other activities in the middle of a very important activity in your life, I once said that work is an important activity in human life because it is with this job that you can survive by being able to finance all your life needs.

On the other hand, I honestly don't really care what kind of job you have, whether you work in the field like a marketing agent or as a worker who requires yourself to work full time indoors, basically you will never touch other activities when you are working if you are one of those people who are really responsible. And the bottom line if we look at it in terms of possible risks is very clear that there will always be risks when you do things that are prohibited by your company, as I said earlier that the worst possibility is that you will lose your job.
315  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you quit gambling for a friend? on: February 11, 2024, 03:41:38 PM
I don't have to entirely quit gambling just for my friend, but the gambling sessions will have to end. The group should just think of another hobby that's equally fun and entertaining but not financially damaging. It's about time they would have to replace their old ways of bonding.

Bad things have happened and in this situation there really must be changes made, one of their friends has been affected by the decision to gamble together unknowingly and clearly now everything has happened and his friend has entered the addiction phase to spend his entire salary every month. On the other hand as you suggested, the group should really change their plans, they should divert to other activities, there are many other things or forms of entertainment that have no risk but are fun. But I think there is a more important issue that should be resolved first, which is to help their friends who are affected by gambling by agreement of the group in whatever way they think is reasonable. After all, this is a shared responsibility and of course every problem must be solved together.
316  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Selling a property to play gamble on: February 11, 2024, 03:20:46 PM
This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Gambling is purely game of luck. For a game of luck, why would you risk so much? There is no certainty that you will win or lose in the game. But still you will sell the property in order to gamble. Gambling should be done when you have extra money for investment purposes. Don’t gamble with money that is being saved for future or used in paying bills. Else later on if by mistake something happens, there won’t be time to regret on this.

Of course, I agree with you that doing crazy things just to gamble is a very stupid act or decision, as you said that gambling is a lucky or lucky activity which means that you will only be able to win when you are really lucky, No more than that while on the other hand anyone will never know when they can be lucky or when they can be lucky, so this means that you can never know when you can win in gambling, therefore it is a very reckless decision if you are willing to sell the valuable things you have just for something that never has certainty at the end of the session.

That's right, gambling should be done with extra money or that means when you have more money then you can gamble and without having to sacrifice something that is basically important in your life, gambling should be fun and not a place that can make you feel depressed, if you feel unusual pressure it means you have the wrong way or approach.
317  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: February 11, 2024, 03:00:02 PM
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If an employee spends work time on personal activities or entertainment, the employer will obviously not like it. And it makes no difference whether you are gambling, scrolling through your favorite social network or something else. In your free time you can do whatever you want, but at work you just have to spend all your time on work.

Whether to follow it or not everyone decides for himself, but we all know how nice it is to do our own things.

Of course the boss will take issue with this because they are only allowed to do work at that time and absolutely no other activities at the same time, they are paid by their boss and that means they have responsibilities that they really need to do. However, it is careless or even stupid to do something else in the middle of an activity that is very important to your life, work is something that earns you a living and the salary you get from work is something that has been paying for all your needs.

Besides, I think there is enough time for you to gamble, I understand that you can engage in online gambling anytime and anywhere but on the other hand you also have to have time management where you have to be able to divide the time between time to work and time to do other things, or that means you have to be able to divide things according to their portions.
Bosses will not be happy to see their workers doing things outside of work because this is the same as not respecting their work, if they work it means they have to have full responsibility for their work and have to obey any rules that their bosses, including gambling at work. if I put myself as a boss of course I would be angry if I saw my employees gambling or doing things outside of work because even though it's just entertainment because at work they have time or hours to rest and that time can be used to have fun or it's up to them but When you start working, it's better to use that time to do busy work.

Of course, because you still go home and can do it at home because online gambling can be done anywhere so you don't need to worry if you can't gamble as long as you have internet access you can still gamble, apart from that by gambling at home you can feel the sensation more and can think focused on gambling to be able to gain profit opportunities.

Well right, while on the other hand they have full responsibility for the time and work they have, meaning they really can't gamble when they are on work time because obviously if we look in terms of consequences then it can be fatal, as you said that the boss will not be happy when he sees his employees doing other things during working hours and especially if the activity is gambling which gambling has a very negative point of view in the eyes of society so the boss will definitely be much wiser in terms of making decisions, the first possibility is probably yes you will get a warning and if the next time you are caught making the same mistake by gambling during work time then I think it is clear that it is very likely that you will lose your job or simply be fired.

This is what happens when you do something without careful consideration, as I said earlier that gambling in the workplace is a very careless or stupid decision and action. And there is no other advice other than you must really be able to divide your time according to portions, if it's time to work then focus on work and if you are on vacation then obviously you are free to do anything and one of them might be gambling.
318  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Selling a property to play gamble on: February 10, 2024, 02:48:04 PM
Firstly I must say this is a topic I believe is quite rare but still happens. Upon seeing the topic of this post it is logical and easy to say such a person is either an irresponsible gambler or an addict or even both. Gambling is supposed to be a fun activity but it seems some people have actually taken it to be more than that which is very wrong.
Going out of your way just to stake or make gambling bets is an unhealthy practice as people are advised to gamble responsibly by staking what they can afford to lose. The reason why people stake beyond their pockets is because they have their judgement clouded their ability to recognize that they could possibly lose it all.
There are a lot of factors that can bring sad consequences. Greed and lack of critical thinking will definitely lead to large losses and the desire to win back lost money, I already wrote in this thread about my former friend who took valuables out of the house to play. If games or bets don’t pay pleasure, but there is only a desire to earn more money, then it’s definitely not worth doing it, and it’s important to have finances for it, if you don’t have them, it’s better not to do it so as not to run into problems.

The inability to accept the fact of losing that exists in gambling makes a gambler always spin in a cycle of chasing victory to restore something that has been lost, it all starts with not understanding what gambling really is which makes them experience emotions when defeat occurs at the end of the session, so of course this is the importance of why you must really understand first what gambling is really about before you finally get involved, requires a lot of consideration and simply put if you are not ready to lose then obviously the better and wiser decision is not to get involved in gambling.

You are right, and I can conclude from what you said that it is a fact that the bad effects of gambling will only be experienced by people who come with the intention of earning, they do not understand that gambling is not a place to earn but nothing more than an activity to fill leisure time without having to apply any seriousness. And that means gambling should be fun and not an activity that can push you into a black hole, and one of the ways that can keep you safe and avoid the possibility of unwanted then obviously you must have the right understanding that will indirectly make you have the right approach to gambling.
319  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: February 10, 2024, 02:29:51 PM
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If an employee spends work time on personal activities or entertainment, the employer will obviously not like it. And it makes no difference whether you are gambling, scrolling through your favorite social network or something else. In your free time you can do whatever you want, but at work you just have to spend all your time on work.

Whether to follow it or not everyone decides for himself, but we all know how nice it is to do our own things.

Of course the boss will take issue with this because they are only allowed to do work at that time and absolutely no other activities at the same time, they are paid by their boss and that means they have responsibilities that they really need to do. However, it is careless or even stupid to do something else in the middle of an activity that is very important to your life, work is something that earns you a living and the salary you get from work is something that has been paying for all your needs.

Besides, I think there is enough time for you to gamble, I understand that you can engage in online gambling anytime and anywhere but on the other hand you also have to have time management where you have to be able to divide the time between time to work and time to do other things, or that means you have to be able to divide things according to their portions.
320  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Management on: February 10, 2024, 02:09:11 PM
Yes, because most people have difficulty in considering what to do when they are in a winning situation, only a few are able to agree with themselves to prefer cashing out while most others are too careless and too confident and think that they will be able to get a bigger amount of winnings so greed is the action they take at that time, not least because of the hope for something bigger that actually still cannot be sure whether it will work out will end up with a much worse situation.

On the other hand I understand that every gambler has the right to choose whatever they want, but only a small percentage of them can choose decisions that have really been considered from various sides rationally and applying greed is one action that is too risky, it doesn't matter if they are able to take responsibility for it but I think with the action and intention to get bigger results then from there alone we can already conclude that most likely they will not be able to accept the fact of defeat at the end of the session if it turns out that the results are not what they want, and this is the initial scenario of someone entering the addiction phase.

The most of the gamblers will get more greedy after the winning from the gambling site.The gamblers who use to cash out after the winning was low,because the gamblers should learn to satisfied with the profit from the game.Some gamblers was careless and play further games to set some high target from the reached target.Some unique gamblers use to increase the target till the winning was possible in the gambling site.

The gamblers had full right to choose the many gambling site,but the problem is sometimes the gamblers get into the web of the scam gambling sites.The greedy interference will cause the gamblers to loss their money which was earned as the profit from the gambling sites.

But the fact is that it is very difficult to put aside greed when they come with the intention of making or multiplying the money they bring in, as you said, it is a fact that they will be even more greedy when they succeed in winning and it doesn't matter how much the winnings are, even if the amount is very large. but for typical gamblers like that they will never be satisfied with whatever they manage to get, on the other hand money is the object of winning in gambling and while as we know that everyone needs money and this is the reason why they always go overboard to chase something that actually there is no certainty.

In fact, however, you will never be able to stop, even just take a break, if basically you come with the aim and intention to produce because obviously they will always assume that they will be able to get a much bigger winning amount when they succeed in getting a win in the sense of applying greed which is the idea that they have in mind is to put back all the money they managed to get to put it back at risk for something bigger, on the other hand what they worry about is when they are unlucky and end up losing and obviously in a situation like that it is not easy to ignore emotions and this is what they are afraid of because when emotions dominate then it is clear that they may experience a much worse situation.
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