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3121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC FN 130: Thompson vs Till Info and Prediction Thread on: May 26, 2018, 11:26:57 PM
^  Barring any hidden injuries, it could be a good time to bet heavy on Thompson then...  I wanted to go for it yesterday but I could pull the trigger.  

Edit:  And of course when I finally decide to make the bet Thompson is at 1.82 and Till at 2.07.  Meh.

The line swung the other way after Darren Till missed weight by 3.5 pounds. The fight is still on under the stipulation that Darren Till weigh no more than 188 lbs @ 1 pm sunday. UFC fighters who missed weight are undefeated so far in 2018. Not certain if that trend will continue but cardio could be an issue for Darren Till considering he's never gone 5 rounds before and might've had issues with his endurance in a 3 round fight with Nicolas Dalby a few years ago.

The big question for me is whether Darren Till will be able to land strikes on Stephen Thompson. There's no question Darren Till is big and powerful. Can he land consistently. That will determine the outcome of the fight imo.

Bellator is giving tailor made easy fights for MVP and he needs to fight some top contenders now to show he is a serious contender rather than giving him opponents to show his highlight reel finishes.

Its possible no one wants to fight MVP.

They're afraid he'll do to them what he did to David Rickels due to his size(6 foot 3 welterweight), reach 77 inches and unusual style.
3122  Economy / Economics / Re: Speculation on BTC on: May 25, 2018, 11:58:17 PM
I really miss those disclaimers those who give financial / investment advice used in past eras where they said: "said person is not currently invested in the thing they're currently offering advice on". Objective and independent analysis is critical in gauging things like future price projections. Its very hard for someone to be either objective or independent if they invested $50,000 in gold/silver or $50,000 in bitcoin which is often the case for those offering investment "advice". And so perhaps it is a worthwhile goal to be cautious and practice "caveat emptor"(buyer beware) when pondering things some say.

I think the three main variables when considering future bitcoin price might be broken down thusly.

1. The state of the us dollar and european euro. If debt and deficit increases for either the USA or EU the value of bitcoin and crypto should increase. Concern over the stability and reliability of fiat currency is one of the main overriding factors determining how badly precious metals and crypto currencies are in demand for a populace which is seeking ways to maintain the value of their wealth in the face of worse case scenario fiat devaluation or hyperinflation. Currently there are many nations in the world which are dealing with currency devaluation/hyperinflation scenarios. The USA and EU may be the last to feel the threat of this but inevitably if nothing crucial changes they are both likely to end up in trouble eventually.

2. Worldwide regulation and potential legal crackdowns on bitcoin and crypto. How and when this is implemented could have a future impact on price. I think everyone knows most potential scenarios here.

3. Lastly I think demand and the size of crypto's userbase is the final main factor. How educated and informed crypto's userbase is and how well they support the right altcoins and policies could make a massive difference.

Of course this is all off the top of my head so maybe not the best breakdown but hopefully I gave someone something worth pondering or reading.
3123  Economy / Economics / Re: Wise thing to do with your savings. on: May 25, 2018, 11:56:56 PM
With liabilities and average cost of living expenses growing at a much faster pace than wages over the past few decades, being able to save money may be something that is fast becoming a luxury. Personally I like the idea of bigger and better financially opportunities being available the more capital a person has to invest even though that may be completely counter intuitive and backwards. In that saving wouldn't represent an end goal in itself but rather the first step of a financial plan which is intended to grow wealth at a faster rate the more liquidity a person has available.

The concept of bitcoin and crypto currencies succeeding due to them being avenues of creating value is also an idea which appeals to me. To mimic their success it might be worthwhile to formulate a saving or investing strategy which focuses also on building long term value rather than instant gratification schemes which tend to be high risk and at times low reward.
3124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC FN 130: Thompson vs Till Info and Prediction Thread on: May 25, 2018, 07:31:28 PM
I would guess there is a lot of hometown cash being thrown @ Darren Till which moved the line in his favor. Online sports betting is a lot bigger in europe and the UK than it is in the USA. The higher number of gamblers in europe/UK and the higher volume of bets could be moving the line in Tills favor. The swing isn't enough for bookies to be behind it.

Darren Till has history in liverpool. He was stabbed twice there as a youth and wound up in a hospital. He has a 4 year old daughter and a family he left behind in brazil he couldn't afford to take with him back to the UK. Its easy for people to be caught up in the story and romance of things and assume it means Darren Till will win the fight.
3125  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's suppose that Bitcoin became universal (used everywhere you go) on: May 25, 2018, 12:52:52 AM
I mean a country cannot survive if individuals doesn't pay taxes,well with Bitcoin you don't pay any tax right?
How this gonna be possible? Please shed for me some light on this.
Thanks

Greece appears to survive despite having one of the highest tax evasion rates in the world.   Smiley  Wait. Maybe that isn't a good example.

Lower taxes could have benefits. It could put pressure on governments and politicians to budget more responsibly and not be as wasteful. It could encourage the public to be more aware of how their tax money is spent and not be so quick to support programs which would result in tax hikes or overspending. An example of this is unviersal healthcare in the united states. Many want single payer healthcare but not many seem to recognize unfunded programs like universal healthcare must be funded by additional tax hikes.

With the USA being $21 trillion in debt and the EU not doing much better, lower taxes could have the potential to encourage more responsible and efficient state management of tax revenues and budgeting. That's not necessarily a bad thing, I'm thinking.

One of the reasons behind the crypto industries high growth could be it being deregulated and not being strangled by high taxes the way other industries often are. There could be benefits to bitcoin not being highly taxed we could acknowledge.
3126  Economy / Economics / Re: Recession in the Economy on: May 24, 2018, 11:55:13 PM
I think one explanation behind global recession & slowdown is high taxes restricting economic growth as state based programs fail to produce jobs, value, progress or innovation equivalent to tax revenues they collect. It might be said a state operated $1 trillion dollar economic stimulus package fails to create $1 trillion dollars worth of benefits. The same with multi trillion state run plans like healthcare reform which fail to deliver trillions of dollars of benefits to taxpayers. Taxes are too high, tax revenues spent by governments fail to offset negative precedents relating to excessive taxation which in turn reduces standard of living, increases the average work day and carries other negative consequences.

Summarized:

1. Basically the average person gives near to 50% of income to a government in the form of taxes.

2. The government doesn't give enough of value back to taxpayers to justify said high taxes.

3. This results in a significant decline of living standards for the average taxpayer as the state does not provide equivalent value to the taxes they collect.
3127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC FN 130: Thompson vs Till Info and Prediction Thread on: May 24, 2018, 11:33:42 PM
Notes

-Makwan Amirkhani has 800+ amateur wrestling matches. He's a very good wrestler with a lot of experience. He needs to round out his game and work on his brazilian jiu jitsu to better capitalize on his strengths. Whatever happens he should always have that solid wrestling base to fall back on.

-All 3 of Davey Grant's losses are via submission. His opponent Manny Bermudez has 11 wins with 8 coming via sub. It may look as if Davey Grant's weaknesses(poor submission defense) align with Bermudez's strengths(strong submissions). That's a tricky call.

-Darren Till looked impressive against Cowboy Cerrone. But one think many seem to overlook is Cowboy stood flatfooted in front of Darren Till. WB Thompson utilizes more movement and is better at setting up his strikes and evading damage than anyone Darren Till has ever fought which could make things difficult. Also because of Darren Till's large size, he might not have the cardio to last 5 rounds.

Bellator 200 Rafael Carvalho vs Gegard Mousasi is also tomorrow (friday the 25th of may).

Rafael Carvalho (c)   vs.   Gegard Mousasi            
Michael Page   vs.   David Rickels            
Phil Davis   vs.   Linton Vassell            
Aaron Chalmers   vs.   Ash Griffiths            
Anastasia Yankova   vs.   Kate Jackson
3128  Economy / Economics / Re: Us government has start probe in manipulation in value of cryptocurrency . on: May 24, 2018, 10:23:45 PM
What ever happened to the US investigation on tether (usdt) and bitfinex from january 2018?

Its been 5 months with no news or update on either. The media made especially strong accusations against tether, claiming $80 billion in tether was utilized in buying bitcoin to keep btc's price overvalued. It is possible these "investigations" are merely FUD or politically motivated smear campaigns against crypto currencies.

If real evidence against tether had been found by now, it might make sense that they would have published it. The same with the media driven claim of russia "hacking" the US 2016 presidential elections. The media talked about that forever despite never finding any real evidence that such a thing took place.
3129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash is basically almost dead on: May 24, 2018, 04:21:11 AM
I'm not certain if dash is near to being deceased.  Smiley

AFAIK they still sponsor former UFC fighter Rory MacDonald. They still have discussions every month on how to put dash's name out there and gain publicity. Dash masternodes are still a smart way to encourage end users to HODL rather than daytrade or speculate on the price. There could still be a lot of die hard dash supporters in the world even if they're not as loud or don't invest as heavily in sock puppet spam accounts as other crypto currencies do.

Don't forget dash could also gain credibility if their pre-mined coins are no longer held by central parties similar to how bitcoin's success could partly be a result of Satoshi's pre mined coins likely never hitting the market, etc.
3130  Economy / Economics / Re: Peter Schiff: The Calm Before the Storm on: May 24, 2018, 02:42:57 AM
30 minute long video clip.  Shocked

I doubt I'll watch the whole thing. Initial notes.

Schiff doesn't appear aware of past historical precedents where tax revenues increased off of tax cuts. Fairer taxes, lower taxes can cut down on tax evasion and utilization of offshore tax shelters. The concept appears counter intuitive to many due to linear perception of tax rates. If people think taxes are fair, they are more likely to pay them which can result in higher tax revenues which is what we're currently seeing from Trump era tax cuts.

Schiff labeling positive outlooks over Trump's economic policies "false optimisim" is premature. We have seen real numbers in terms of job resurgence. China has agreed to negotiate the trade deficit. We may see higher investment in united states business due to corporate taxes being cut. There is evidence to support a positive economic outlook which Schiff appears to dismiss out of hand.

I agree with Schiff in terms of high debt and spending via the state not being the best policies. However there may be no choice given the neglect US infrastructure, defense and other issues have suffered over the past 4+ administrations. We're seeing collective falllout accumulated over decades of neglect and there's no avoiding it forever. The spend, spend, spend mode of politics which created $21 trillion in debt wasn't about to disappear overnight simply because Trump took office and its unfair for people to try to pin all of the blame on any single person.

3131  Economy / Economics / Argentine Bank To Use Bitcoin For Cross-Border Transactions on: May 23, 2018, 11:47:05 PM
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May has not been a good month for Emerging Markets in general, but perhaps none (other than Turkey now) were hit harder than Argentina which raised rates to an astonishing 40% in an effort to defend massive capital flight and the crash in its currency as IMF bailout hope is all that remains - aside from Franklin Templeton's global bond fund.



But as the BCRA and Argentine government desperately shore up confidence in their collapsing currency, NewsBTC.com's Tim Copeland reports that Argentine bank, Banco Masventas (BMV), has revealed a partnership with Bitex to allow customers to make cross-border payments in Bitcoin.

They aim to utilise Bitcoin as a low-fee cryptocurrency which can be transferred across borders and easily exchanged for fiat currencies.

BMV said in a statement:

“The service allows you to reduce costs associated with international transfers as there are no international banks as intermediaries. The logistics solution allows for a reduction in the time it takes to send or receive transfers up to a maximum of 24 hours. Bitex has a wide network of partners that enables international transfers to more than 50 countries.”

Bitcoin enables transfers to be made without using third parties and does not rely on any trusted parties. Instead, it uses a network of nodes that validate transactions and uses incentives to ensure that the network operates accurately. It also uses cryptography, such as hash functions, to ensure that only the person who holds their Bitcoin can spend it as well as providing a public ledger to ensure accountability.

Bitex is a blockchain-based financial services provider for both individuals and institutions. They help to create logistics solutions which allow for payments to be made between multiple countries. Bitex are self-regulated, but follow compliance and KYC rules. They have also hired Deloitteservices to fulfil audits on the company’s operations and holding of funds.

U.K. bank Santander has continued their move into the blockchain ecosystem by announcing their new app One Pay FX which uses Ripple technology in April. The app was launched in Spain, the U.K., Brazil, and Poland and is designed to make cross-border payments in a matter of minutes. It runs on xCurrent, a payment solution provided by Ripple Net but does not exclusively use XRP which is associated with Ripple. XRP is used by xRapid, another solution, and has been successfully trialled by Mercury FX.

Ripple have targeted banks and, specifically, cross-border payment providers and argue that XRP can save costs and deliver faster transactions than using SWIFT or Bitcoin. This move by BMV shows a preference for the number one ranked cryptocurrency by market cap instead of XRP which is aimed at being used by banks.


Should Bitcoin Be Used by Banks?

Many token holders will welcome real-world integration as an increase in use of a coin usually leads to an increase in price. However, Bitcoin was initially set up in a libertarian environment which was hostile to banks. In fact, the Bitcoin’s genesis block contains an extract from the Times which references the 2008 financial crisis. Bitcoin is also pseudonymous which makes it harder for governments to keep track of payments and users.

In this partnership, we have an example of a low-fee cryptocurrency being used by a bank which is then charging 3% plus VAT for the service. This means that the bank is profiting from the low fees that Bitcoin offers. On the other hand, BMV did suggest it has passed some of the savings on to the customer. Instead of going through a bank, users could set up their own wallets and send transactions without using a bank, but novices may find this risky as mistakes can happen.

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The question is - will this enable BMV customers to get around any future capital controls enforced by the government should this currency collapse turn even more crisis-er?[/b]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-23/argentine-bank-use-bitcoin-cross-border-transactions

A new twist to things.

Rather than argentina issuing its own crypto currency or banning bitcoin. Instead we have an argentine bank named Banco Masventas (BMV) partnering with a firm called bitex to utilize bitcoin in moving transactions across different countries. They say this allows faster and more affordable transactions over their existing financial infrastructure and gives them an advantage.

Also mentioned in the article is UK bank Santander which utilizes ripple to move funds internationally.

This reminds me of the old adage: "if you can't beat them, join them".

In this case bitcoin may save struggling banks rather than serve as a competitor or threat.

Then there's an even crazier question in terms of government regulation having the potential to prevent bitcoin and other crypto from saving banks.
3132  Economy / Economics / Re: Jim Rickards: The Empire State Moves Against Bitcoin on: May 23, 2018, 11:18:39 PM
Bitcoin got hammered yesterday after New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman announced an investigation into some of the major cryptocurrency exchanges.

News of Schneiderman "investigating" crypto currency exchanges date back to april 2018: https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/17/17247946/bitcoin-new-york-attorney-general-eric-schneiderman-investigation

This can't be the cause of the latest btc downtrend as it is a month old.

The Eric Schneiderman mentioned has since resigned from his attorney general position due to him being currently being investigated for allegedly assaulting four women:

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Being the "new york attorney general" probably doesn't give his office authority to investigate on a global scale. At most his investigation might encompass the state of new york, afaik. This may not have been big news even if it were current or even if the person initiating the movement hadn't resigned.
3133  Economy / Economics / China’s Payment Apps Give U.S. Bankers Nightmares on: May 23, 2018, 10:15:20 PM
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Wandering the streets of Shanghai to admire the architecture, the head of one of the largest U.S. consumer banks recently found himself surrounded by a gaggle of teenagers.

Entranced by their phones, they hardly made way for the banker. The teens were messaging, shopping and sending money back and forth, all without cash. Instead, they were using Alipay and WeChat.

The scary thing for the American: Banks never got a cut.

The future of consumer payments may not be designed in New York or London but in China. There, money flows mainly through a pair of digital ecosystems that blend social media, commerce and banking—all run by two of the world’s most valuable companies. That contrasts with the U.S., where numerous firms feast on fees from handling and processing payments. Western bankers and credit-card executives who travel to China keep returning with the same anxiety: Payments can happen cheaply and easily without them.

Chinese vs. U.S. Payment Systems
Americans more typically involve banks and cards when paying with apps



Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. created Alipay in 2004 to let millions of potential customers who lacked credit and debit cards shop on its vast online marketplace. Tencent Holdings Ltd., similarly, debuted its payments function in 2005 in a bid to keep users inside its messaging system longer.

Alipay and WeChat have since swelled in popularity, boasting 520 million and 1 billion monthly active users, respectively. Consumers sent more than $2.9 trillion inside the two systems in 2016, equivalent to about half of all consumer goods sold in China, according to the payments consultancy Aite Group.

In contrast, U.S. consumers still rely on banks for most non-cash payments—whether it’s by check, debit, credit or a growing number of other payment systems tied to their bank accounts. Connected to that is a universe of wallets and payments systems operated by the likes of PayPal Holdings Inc., Apple Inc. and Alphabet Inc.’s Google. From the perspective of merchants, too much of the U.S. system siphons off enormous amounts of money.

Transaction Breakdown
In a typical $100 credit card purchase...



For now, no company in the U.S. commands the kind of clout that Alipay and WeChat wield back home. Instead, everyone is trying to replicate their success.

“This is going to be the battle of all time—like who dominates all those services—and it’s still not known,” Jamie Dimon, chief executive officer of JPMorgan Chase & Co., told his company’s investors in February. “Everyone wants to be the place that is the one place you go to do that.”

The nightmare for the U.S. financial industry is that a technology company—whether from China or a homegrown juggernaut such as Amazon.com Inc. or Facebook Inc.—replicates the success of Alipay and WeChat in America. The stakes are enormous, potentially carving away billions of dollars in annual revenue from major banks and other firms. What follows is a breakdown of what that could look like—theoretically—using the explosive growth as China’s apps as a rough guide.

Perhaps the clearest opportunity lies in siphoning off some of the fees that U.S. merchants pay to accept cards and mobile payments—about $90 billion a year, according to the Nilson Report, an industry newsletter. That money gets parceled out to card networks such as Visa Inc. and Mastercard Inc., payment processors and banks, which pocket the largest share.

In China, analysts expect third-party payment providers to earn about 40 percent of such fees by 2020. If apps were to start grabbing market share in the U.S. at roughly the same rate they did in China, it would take a $43 billion revenue bite out of a business banks count as among their most profitable.

Merchant Fees
Financial firms would lose billions if the U.S. embraces third-party apps at a rate like China’s



But that’s just one way that U.S. banks impose fees. They also generate revenue by dispensing cash. If payments apps were to replace paper money—as they have in many situations in China—another form of income could take a big hit.

Easy Money
Checking accounts generate about $3 billion in bank fees, which would dwindle if consumers embrace apps



Soon, U.S. bank executives won’t have to travel far to see China’s systems up close. Alipay, owned by Jack Ma’s Ant Financial, has spent the better part of the past year inking deals with payment processors that will allow it to bring its technology to America. Already, many New York taxis offer it as a payment option to customers.

So far, Alipay has said the expansion is meant to help Chinese tourists, and that it’s focusing on cities they tend to visit. But few in the payments industry believe it will stop there.

Meanwhile, Chinese consumers are starting to park more of their savings with the apps. In 2013, Alipay began offering money-market accounts. By last year, it had built that business into the world’s largest money-market fund with about $243 billion. For banks, that’s yet another bite. They traditionally hold customer deposits and use that money to fund loans—generating significant profits. If U.S. consumers were to start storing their extra cash with apps, banks would have to find an alternate—probably more expensive—source of funding.

Deposits
Even a relatively small bite to deposits would be a lot of money



To be sure, U.S. banks have formidable advantages on their home turf. They have longstanding relationships with their customers, many of whom still like ‘visiting their money’ at a local branch. Consumers love credit card rewards programs and other perks, which have gotten sweeter in recent years, as well as the ability to charge back purchases that don’t go well. And U.S. bank deposits are backed by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.

Still, banks and payment networks have a lot to lose if technology firms succeed in grabbing market share—and there are signs that Alipay and WeChat aren’t the only firms that may flex their muscles. Amazon is said to be interested in offering its own product to mimic checking accounts while offering to lower costs for retailers who use its online payments service.

“What happened in China was not an even playing field,” Al Kelly, Visa’s chief executive officer, said at an investor conference in March. “What I hope happens around the rest of the world as they migrate is that at least it’s an even playing field.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-payment-systems-china-usa/

Looks as if banks could have serious competition from a neglected angle: 3rd party payment apps like alipay and wechat.

This is interesting. We've seen walmart succeed via cutting middle men from their business model. We've seen amazon succeed via cutting physical stores. Now it seems many are choosing to cut banks out as a middle man. The future could be one where banks have less presence. It could make business more efficient and eliminate unnecessary costs which appears to be one of the major impetus for developments in retail and finance.

China is a major favorite and darling of the establishment. China receives a lot of privilege which western and european nations typically do not receive. The emergence of these types of 3rd party apps could create a major conflict of interest. On one hand the establishment loves china and wants it to succeed and overthrow the evil western capitalist nations. On the other hand, chinese 3rd party apps have potential to wreck centralized bank cartels and severely dilute their revenue streams and influence. Things are getting crazy. I don't even know what to think anymore.
3134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which sports betting site do you go for UFC fights? on: May 22, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
I'm not usually in this forum section but I'd like to know as I don't remember the name of that sport betting site anymore, I think they already close it. They even accept ETH, LTC and Doge when it was running.

I don't remember the exact name of the site you're referring to but I think I know who you're talking about. They closed down and sold all their crypto holdings when bitcoin reached around $4,000-$5,000 per btc(at the beginning of that big upswing where it eventually reached near to $20k), if I'm remembering right.

The best gambling site which supports bitcoin could be 5dimes. Its not an exclusive crypto currency platform. It does have some of the best options in terms of props and live betting. At least as far as US residency goes. For europeans and others, they might use pinnacle or another book which supports bitcoin while offering live betting, props and other extras which crypto books typically do not offer.
3135  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin, KYC, Unbanked on: May 22, 2018, 09:39:01 PM
The topic of the unbanked reminds me of a thread made in this section back in april 2018:

People argue about bitcoin.  Is it a currency, or an investment? Is it a speculative bubble, or is it here for the long run? What about Blockchain technology?  One thing is certain. Bitcoin is plugging the holes of the archaic financial system and providing real solutions for current problems.  One problem it solves is the banking of the unbanked.

Global leaders everywhere call for the pursuit of sustainable growth.  Financial inclusion is critical to any effort raise people out of poverty.  The poorest countries in world are severely underbanked.  However, we are now seeing 90 percent digital mobile penetration in these unbanked areas. While these spots may not be able to access traditional banks, they can access the blockchain from their phones. We see the decentralized dawning of a new era in financial systems.

You don’t have to look halfway around the world to see the effects of under-inclusion. In the United States, the FDIC recently found that 27 percent of US households were unbanked or underbanked. After the 2008 recession, banks closed the least profitable branches across the country. This left gaps for rural Americans without access.  Online banking was supposed to fill some of these gaps, but the high number of unbanked families persists.  Internet connectivity in rural homes in difficult.

The unbanked both in the U.S. and globally face high fees that destroy their ability to save money.  Have you ever tried to cash a check at these so called “Check Cashing” businesses?  It is legalized highway robbery. Additionally, these poor folks often face insurmountable obstacles to obtain the credit that is needed to buy a home or start a business.

Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are the solution! Because of distributed ledger technology known as the blockchain, digital currencies require no trust between parties.  They cannot be counterfeited.  The entire transaction history is completely transparent and mathematically proven.  Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are a way for people and businesses to bypass the traditional banks and engage in direct commerce.  Any unbanked person with a computer or a smartphone now has the opportunity for greater financial inclusion!

Compared with the old archaic financial system, there are numerous advantages in cost and security. There are no fees to store wealth via bitcoin.  It takes very little time for funds to clear. The already low transfer fees for crypto continue to drop as the network protocols become more efficient, and the flat fees are the same regardless of the amount transacted or location of the recipient.  Instead of waiting days for transferred money or paying high fees to cash checks, blockchain allow for the seamless flow of payments.  This creates tremendous opportunities for people to access micro-lending.

The internet is a $4.2 trillion global economy.  If it were a country, it would be one of the five largest economies in the world.  Doesn’t it make sense that the digital economy would have its own currency?  Shouldn’t we remove physical barriers of exchange?  Companies like Walmart, Amazon, Kodak and Starbucks are set to explore blockchain payment systems.  It seems that no company in the world want to be left out of this growing opportunity.

America is at the crossroads, and hopefully the world stands with us. Some feel that we must regulate cryptocurrency, this could stifle innovation and slow growth. Many regulatory bureaucracies are products of the existing archaic system and fear they will be replaced by the new blockchain technology.  The U.S. guides the financial markets.  Regulatory harmony is extremely important.
Archaic banking systems have served us for decades, but they fail to include many people. We must stand for innovation and freedom!  Bitcoin must work without excessive government interference!  We are obligated to help the unbanked and the poor around the world.  They should be allowed the inclusion Bitcoin and crypto provide.  

There could be a fine line separating centralized regulation from kyc the author of that medium piece is missing. Crypto currency loan platforms of the past utilized kyc checks in the form of picture ID requirements without imposing the significant and overbearing restrictions some claim kyc represents. In theory, kyc is limited to $10,000 (usd) sums of money and mainly affects the bigger players who deal in larger sums of crypto currency.

The idea that only criminals can thrive in regulated financial or economic markets would seem to imply that regulated banks and investment markets are places where only criminals can thrive. That appears to be the argument of medium OP.

There could be a case made for that. I won't go into details as the last time I said something negative about fool.com they actaully IP banned me for 24-48 hours. And as a result, I'm going to try not to criticize anyone even if its an infringement on freedom of speech and typical consumer feedback. Let's just say there could be evidence for it.
3136  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Iran And Russia Considers Using Cryptocurrency to avoid US Bank! on: May 21, 2018, 11:51:09 PM
I doubt either nation would utilize crypto currencies as a means of circumventing economic sanctions.

Russia and iran likely have networks of spies and agents all over the world who can exchange paper fiat as needed, leaving behind no paper or electronic trail which would indicate a transfer of wealth took place.

Electronic exchanges of wealth could be subject to interception or attack. The viability of technologies like stuxnet and cost effectiveness of DDoS attacks against financial networks could move states to adopt more traditional methods of avoiding economic blockades rather than attempting to reinvent the wheel in terms of opting for any purported "push button" convenience which crypto currencies might potentially provide.
3137  Economy / Economics / New York City Launches First Blockchain Initiatives on: May 21, 2018, 11:33:52 PM
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City launching new initiatives to support growing blockchain industry

NYC’s blockchain industry has received nearly $200M in funding in 2017, blockchain job demand has increased by over 800% since 2015

Investing in emerging industries is critical part of Mayor de Blasio’s job growth strategy

NEW YORK - Kicking off CoinDesk’s annual flagship Consensus conference as the opening keynote, NYCEDC President and CEO James Patchett today announced plans to plant a flag in New York City’s growing blockchain industry. In the coming months, the City will launch two initial efforts to build a foundation around the technology and position New York City as an accessible center for blockchain innovation.

In an effort to serve the needs of the fast-growing industry, NYCEDC will launch the NYC Blockchain Resource Center. The center will serve as a physical hub for the industry, building public awareness for blockchain technology through education, and connecting entrepreneurs to business support, mentorship, advisory services, and a community of peers to help them launch and scale new ventures.

The center will also convene industry stakeholders, government, consumer advocates, and investors to begin a conversation around how New York City can create a regulatory environment that will support both consumer safety and innovation.

To catalyze blockchain innovation and source government use-cases for the technology, NYCEDC will also launch a public blockchain competition. Built on the foundation of the City’s successful NYC BigApps contest, the City today released a request for proposals (RFP) for an organization to operate a public competition aimed at developing blockchain applications that help improve public sector services and processes. The competition will include a series of workshops to educate those in government about blockchain and identify meaningful use cases to solve challenges like security, efficiency, and turn-around-times for government services. There will also be free educational workshops to teach the public about the technology and source ideas.

NYCEDC expects the blockchain competition to launch in late 2018.


“There’s no city in the world that’s better positioned to lead the way in blockchain,” said NYCEDC President and CEO James Patchett. “We’re a global leader in finance, real estate, media, and tech – all industries seeing incredible innovation from this new technology. The City is putting a big focus into blockchain to find out how we can grow the industry and make sure it’s creating great opportunities for New Yorkers.”

"We're excited that we get to kickoff our Consensus conference with this news, and are pleased to be partnering with the NYCEDC on the first Blockchain industry job fair as well as supporting their efforts to make NYC the next great hub of innovation," said Kevin Worth, CEO of New York-based CoinDesk, the leading global blockchain technology news outlet.

"There is an enormous potential for applications and growth of blockchain technology," said Council Member Paul Vallone, Chair of the Committee on Economic Development. "New York City has already positioned itself as a global leader in this field and initiatives such as this will ensure we remain on the forefront of this rapidly growing industry."

"The BigApps Blockchain competition and the Blockchain Resource Center are great opportunities for NYC's tech talent to explore the economic potential and job opportunities associated with this emerging technology. Thank you to the EDC and all our partners for working to open the door to new resources for NYC's tech community to continue to innovate," said Council Member Peter Koo, Chair of the Committee on Technology.

"The New York City Economic Development Corporation's support of blockchain technology will go a long way in cementing New York’s position as the financial capital of the 21st century. Blockchain applications have the opportunity to revolutionize the way we conduct business and government. I look forward to continuing partnerships between this burgeoning industry and the public sector as we work to foster new businesses and promote the wellbeing of all New Yorkers," said NYS Assembly Member Ron Kim.

"The blockchain industry is booming in New York, and with these new initiatives, the NYCEDC is seizing on its potential to revolutionize the way we do business and create new jobs in the process," said Julie Samuels, Executive Director of Tech:NYC. "Blockchain technology promises to have real impact on all kinds of businesses and sectors, and it's key that all stakeholders—government, entrepreneurs, technologists, and existing industries—work together to get it right. That is, after all, what we do best in NYC."

“I'm thrilled to see our local government committing to invest in programs that will yield both high-paying jobs and also improved city services for all New Yorkers, cementing our position as a diverse leader in this transformative new industry," said Andrew Hoppin, co-founder of the New York Government Blockchain Association and CEO of blockchain tech startup CoverUS.

“The Global Blockchain Business Council (GBBC) welcomes and supports NYCEDC’s announcement to advance blockchain technology for New Yorkers, particularly, for its most vulnerable citizens. Together, we will build bridges, help educate and create real job opportunities for NYC as this technology grows and becomes the next trillion dollar industry,” said Sandra Ro, CEO, Global Blockchain Business Council (GBBC) and former Executive Director, Head of Digitization, CME Group.


“NYCEDC plays a critical role in the next generation economy for the city, the country and the world. Blockchain, digital ledger and emerging technologies, as a whole, are driving transparency in our society and in our industries. We have to prepare current businesses for these inevitable changes, and the new generation of leaders that will drive a more abundant and inclusive economy,” said Maja Vujinovic, CEO, OGroup.

A blockchain is a public ledger that verifies, secures, and stores data across a decentralized network of computers. This enables users to exchange data in a transparent and secure manner without relying on a centralized authority or middleman. The new technology has led to innovative solutions that help with tracking products, verifying identities, sharing property titles and legal documents, and media attribution, among many others.

Coindesk, the leading digital media, events and information services company for the crypto and blockchain community, has partnered with NYCEDC to launch Blockchain Week NYC to boost blockchain-related employment opportunities in New York, but also establish New York City as a growing center for the blockchain community. As part of Blockchain Week NYC, NYCEDC and CoinDesk will co-host a first-ever Blockchain Job Fair, a free event open to any member of the public. Taking place at the end of Consensus 2018 on May 16th from 2-5PM, companies exhibiting at the job fair include IBM, Accenture, Deloitte, ConsenSys, Ripple, KPMG and Ledger.

Blockchain is a growing sector in New York City with the potential to create thousands of good jobs. Blockchain job postings increased by more than 800% between 2015 and 2017, according to Burning Glass. In 2017, venture capital investments in New York City-based blockchain businesses grew to over $199 million.

New York City’s anchor industries play a critical role in the evolution of blockchain technology. For example, financial services accounts for 30% of established blockchain use cases, according to a recent Cambridge study. Emerging use cases in finance, media, insurance, health care, and real estate, are all fueling a shift in some of New York City’s most vibrant industries.

Blockchain Week and Grow NYC Hackathon

As part of Blockchain Week NYC, NYCEDC and GrowNYC co-sponsored a hackathon on May 12-13, challenging technologists to use blockchain technologies to create solutions that improve trackability and transparency of the City’s GrowNYC food supply chain, tracking food from farm, to warehouse, to retail outlet, to consumers, especially those in our underserved neighborhoods.

An estimated 750,000 New York City residents live in “food deserts” with few or no supermarkets, and studies show that residents in these areas experience higher levels of obesity and malnutrition. As part of the City-sponsored hackathon, NYCEDC and GrowNYC are asking technologists to explore how blockchain can be used to track and ensure that fresh, local produce is getting to New Yorkers in every neighborhood across the five boroughs.

As outlined in Mayor de Blasio’s New York Works plan, the City is continuing to find new opportunities to invest in emerging industries with high growth potential. In addition to its initial blockchain investments, the City is also making efforts to grow New York City’s VR/AR, cybersecurity, and life sciences industries, among others.


 

About NYCEDC
New York City Economic Development Corporation is the City's primary vehicle for promoting economic growth in each of the five boroughs. NYCEDC's mission is to stimulate growth through expansion and redevelopment programs that encourage investment, generate prosperity and strengthen the City's competitive position. NYCEDC serves as an advocate to the business community by building relationships with companies that allow them to take advantage of New York City's many opportunities. Find us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter, or visit our blog to learn more about NYCEDC projects and initiatives.

https://www.nycedc.com/press-release/new-york-city-launches-first-blockchain-initiatives

This is great. Looks like new york recognizes the value bitcoin and crypto currencies represent and are investing in the technology to grow it to its best potential. This could represent a polar opposite to banning bitcoin/blockchain. The united states being a wealthy and prosperous nation might be attributed to it embracing new and emerging technologies like blockchain. While poor countries which ban bitcoin may not do as well due to fearing change and resisting innovation.

On a negative side, this could represent yet another example of taxpayer funding being utilized to cut costs for large institutions like banks. Rather than banks funding blockchain development on their own coin, this could turn out to be an example of banks shifting liabilities of cost development onto taxpayers who might receive little if any benefit from this.

Its far too early to say which path these types of initiatives will take. Hopefully the net effect will be positive and people will become more educated and informed on topics like bitcoin and crypto currencies.
3138  Economy / Marketplace / Re: HTC is planning to build a blockchain-powered smartphone on: May 21, 2018, 11:08:52 PM
I like this concept. Only downside I see is a potential for wallet, personal and financial data being collected through wireless transmissions. There was a story in the news in 2017 about 400 million android phones being vulnerable to a backdoor installed by chinese vendors. All of which could be filed under "normal concerns" for any type of hardware/software where money is involved. Its been documented many routers and modems have backdoors installed via default as well so it is possible laptops and desktops are currently as vulnerable as smartphones.

It is a good concept. Many carry their phones. Having all the information and functionality required "at your fingertips" is something Bill Gates could only aspire to in decades past. Its been said wallet and crypto support could be installed via default with this latest roll out of their "blockchain powered" smartphone. Hopefully people will experiment with it and learn about crypto on their own, without being misled or influenced too much by the media which tends to portray a negative view of crypto and bitcoin in general.
3139  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Crypto shop on: May 21, 2018, 09:42:28 PM
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Crypto shop

Clueless. Can't say I know anyone who has tried it. In past years there was bitcoinstore.com which sold computers, gpus, electronics and assorted products for btc. They shut down years ago claiming their business model wasn't profitable and they only did it for the bitcoin cause. I don't know specifics. Amazon seems to do well with online retail due to the "free shipping" arrangement they have with the state funded US postal service. That type of arrangement can be difficult to compete with as we see walmart, target, best buy and other retailers having difficulty competing with amazon in that area.

Amazon offers a service where small merchants are able to rollout their products on amazons website. That could be the more profitable and likely to succeed venture for small internet retailers. Its tougher to offer indirect crypto support utilizing that model now that amazon gift cards are more difficult to obtain. And it seems more disadvantages are likely to be thrown at amazon in the future in an effort to allow traditional brick and mortar based businesses to better compete.

As is sometimes the case with small ventures success or failure can be defined via content, the quality of products and similar things. There have been bitcoin stores and bitcoin retail platforms in the past. It is possible they were "ahead of their time" or arrived too early to market to be successful. If anyone does create a bitcoin store please document the process and note the advantages/disadvantages/hardships so that others might benefit from your knowledge.
3140  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC FN 129: Maia vs Usman Info and Prediction Thread on: May 20, 2018, 11:57:11 PM
Post event notes.

-Jared Cannonier looks to have deteriorated significantly since moving to train out of MMA lab. It is possible MMA lab run by John Crouch is one of the worst big name mixed martial arts gyms to train in.

-Veronica Macedo's wrestling, grappling and fight IQ were terrible. Even worse than her first fight in the UFC. Her kickboxing was very good everything else not so good.

-Zak Cummings training out of Factory X muay thai which could be another of the worst big name MMA gyms aside from MMA lab.

My only real bet for this event was Vicente Luque. Didn't do too bad. Don't know why I got a bit emotionally attached to some of the outcomes for this event its a bit out of character but I did. lol
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