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My last one yes, but not all of them... at least as far as I remember they should all lead to accounts I still have access to on various sites/services (I used GLBSE as a online wallet sometimes for small transactions that were too tiny to really take all that cold storage key fumbling hassle...).
Still I'd rather just log into my GLBSE account and enter a deposit address there.
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Paying for a (private?) TOR exit node might be even better...
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Every lawyer will probably recommend you to send a letter demanding payback within a reasonable timeframe (2 weeks?) - most likely this should be resolved by then. Seriously, it's Sunday!
Also a lawyer will recommend you not to call ANYONE "idiot" on the internet...
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My warning about him from July: We have invested 500 BTC into each of Long Term Loaning ZiggiStar 12% / 30 days. and Long Term Loaning ZiggiStar 20% / 30 days guarantee, These are both loaning bonds, that are open to be traded on the market, which pay a daily dividend. As these are not affected by the Bitcoin price decrease or increase, I decided it was a good idea to move some capital into such ventures. This is something very problematic imho, as ZiggiStar does still not disclose (after nearly 2 weeks of promising to put up a list) where he "invests" that money - he admitted in the german subforum that he at least has "parts" (not detailling how high) of "Project 17" (the 20% one) at pirate "but not everything". For all you know, he might even invest in GBF! Also he used to go into quite a flamewar on the german subforum + still has not disclosed at all where the profit for his "bank books" are coming from, only that he does "trading". Even frikkin' pirate stays calm if you call ponzi on him, ZiggiStar is at least for me something that I wouldn't tough with even a very long pole... A "100% insured, backed by gamma" pirate deposit similar to YARR (daily dividends of ~1 Bitcent) would be something I'd love to have - if you have competitive rates that is. He has told me he does a lot of speculation trading combined with stock/asset trading and bots. I know that his past is a bit wanky, but he a good reputation and hasn't defaulted on anything. I have his passport saved on my computer and he seems to know what he's doing. Surely it's a risk, but I wouldn't compare it to the risk of pirate. Okay great  , I will release more detail about it tonight. //DeaDTerra It's not a passport, it's a "Personalausweis" - and only the backside of it for that matter. There's not evern a birth date or photo on the back side, why did you accept this?! Also he posts a lot in the german subforum, but since I didn't invest with him, I am not going to prosecute this any further myself. Maybe (if you don't speak good enough german) you can have somebody translate that stuff... |
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Well, I certainly do NOT want my email address in the hands of ANY asset issuer out there, especially not in combination with my username. On the other hand I have outstanding shares that were worth (the last time I checked) ~50+ BTC, so I probably have little choice, as this is a big part of the Bitcoins I hold in total. F*cked up situation, all in all...  |
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I don't. PM's, property, and Bitcoin all appeal to me because they lack counter-party risk.
About the only thing I do with BTC is donate them to things I think are worthwhile. I believe that to be more efficient at furthering the projects in our world that I believe have value. As long as our 'official' currency solutions are for all intents and purposes supperior for the things I need a currency for, I'll probably be using that. Part of my Bitcoin speculation is because I don't know that 'official' solutions will continue to perform to my satisfaction.
This is not a problem in itself, but the economy would not grow if everyone acted like you, so the attitude you prescribe is mildly parasitic. Here's why you are wrong: The whole economy can run off 1 Bitcoin. That 1 Bitcoin or more can be invested and used as much as you like. The persons holding more are holding back nobody. Here's why you are wrong: If one person holds for example 20 million BTC and the rest of the economy is based on the remaining million, there's always the threat looming that all your money might be devalued 20 times in an instant once this person decides to get out. If there are only 1001 coins, everyone holds fractions of this 1 and I hold 1000 (not disclosing anything about my plans what to do with these 1000 coins) would this hold back people from trusting this currency or not? |
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From shareholder perspective it might not be a scam, but at least a badly run business that would have had (and still has imho) much more potential. I mean, you KNOW that defaults might happen, you insured against them... and then you are surprised that they happen more frequently than you thought? Just increase prices for insurance contracts, do stricter contracts and don't pay out on every.single.instance (is there a list somewhere where people claimed to get money from you and if/how much they got?).
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It may have saved some people's money from your lovely USD based lol-accounting that suggests that a 40% BTC loss = a profit in USD)
For the sake of your shareholders, you should probably close it down. Now. (NYAN, too)
Wait a second - CPA is valued by usagi in USD, but signs contracts (that are actually quite cheap to get) valued in BTC?! I'd like to have confirmation on that by usagi... However, I did NOT make money (by far not) with CPA, so I don't really get the following: Yes, we made some money too. It wasn't all loss. Don't forget, we made money on the premiums too. But that's not the point.
All this says is that some people actually bothered to pay for your service and their contract ended without a default event or other insurance case. In the big picture however it seems you lost money in total and now (since it's not "your" money anyways) lack the initiative to sell more contracts and instead want to realize this loss and close shop. Everyone was very nice to each other and especially pirateat40 as long as he was "profitable", remember? Try to defend him now and watch the sh*tstorm grow by the minute... noone likes to loose money. In the end I'd say either YES, if you pay out the IPO price as final dividend, leaving shareholders unharmed or NO, if you just want to get out. You carry a responsibility and the Bitcoin community is also larger than this forum, just as a hint. |
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Far too bad conditions for the lender for my taste in the sample contract, good luck in finding someone else to borrow you shares for shorting/whatever.
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Dividends: 5.9267865 GIPPT 2012-09-25 04:18:42 I hold 51 shares of GIPPT, so 5.9267865/51 = 0.1162115 BTC/share as dividend. Also I'm back in action and WTF was going on here - just left for (not even) 2 months and suddenly pirate defaults, mining breaks through 3 million diff, BTC is worth over 12 USD, people bitch about GLBSE more than ever and so on...  |
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Denn die Zins-Bitcoins die erauszahlt sind jedesmal nagelneue Bitcoins, die gerade erst durch mining entstanden sind. Vllt investiert er das ganze Geld auch in FPGA Miner? Aber ist da eine so hohe Rendite möglich?
Hast du dafür auch Beweise? Die Zinszahlungen werden nämlich durchaus auch mit normalen, "älteren" Bitcoins bezahlt. derzeit verdient man mit 100 MH/s etwa 50 US cent pro Tag (siehe charts auf http://bitcoinx.com/charts/). Ob das für ~10% Gewinn pro Woche reicht? Ich glaube kaum... |
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"TRANSFER_FROM" and "TRANSFER_TO" seems not to work out properly:
Dividend: 0.554 BTC | Fees: 0.013 BTC | Bought: 0.000 BTC | Sold: 3.300 BTC | Shares: -4 => 3.84 (final profit)
Maybe count it as a 0 BTC cost buy/sell?
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Messed up the charts at bitcoincharts.com quite well...  Interesting that now MtGox seems to get hacked the other way round - probably buying BTC with fake USD? |
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Would be easy to do: Check if the data entered is a bitcoin address - if yes, display "DANGER!!!" (exclamation marks added for emphasis).
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100000 shares at 1 Satoshi are equal to 1 share at 0.01 BTC - that would not impact the graph very much... please look again at the charts at bitcoincharts.com - the volume is measured in BTC, not shares (which would be a quite weird measure after all). I am seriously against disallowing any kind of bid, especially now that the UI is denominated in BTC (as opposed to the command line client on GLBSE 1.0 in Satoshis). There maybe might be a warning/confirmation popup, if you bid/ask much too low or too high but disallowing such stuff is just not the right thing to do imho.
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About all that "as soon as we have raised enough, we won't sell any more shares" thingie:
Imagine, BTC prices still rise as crazy and you only need to sell 100k shares - does the other party (Bitfountain) then own 200k shares (2/3rds of the company) or is it then just that each ASICMINER share owns 1/200000 instead of 1/400000 of the company?
Will additional (unsold) shares be sold later or deleted, including a change in contract that you will not sell more than the ones sold - ever?
Also I find it worrying that you give that high discounts for bigger investors - 10%, 12.5% etc. are far from what I'd call reasonable. After all, why should I as a smaller investor then buy a handful of shares, if others get them for a LOT cheaper? This actually discourages me to buy directly from you, but rather hoping that someone wants to make some quick money by buying at 12.5% discount and immediately opening a (cheaper than 0.1 BTC) bidwall.
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What I am saying, is this: Some of the "bond" issuers have understood, that this is wrong and have done everything to set up a deal so no one gets hurt. You and some others), on the other hand, are abusing the situation and keep twisting it for your own profit.
Which ones, actually? Please say the asset IDs on GLBSE... Edit: @sarpar: Just check when actually PUREMINING was started - Meni would be the last person to blame for selling overpriced bonds in the light of FPGAs and ASICs! |
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Alle reden immer von "pirate" wer oder was ist pirate? hab leider nix gefunden;/
*edit. Da machen ja hier im deutschen Bereich einige sehr gute Geschäfte, wenn sie hier Sparbücher für 4-8 % Monatlich anbieten, Wenn sie einfach das Geld woanders für 6% WÖCHENTLICH anlegen!:)
Klar, besonders wenn sie sogar zugeben, dass sie "zumindest teilweise" Geld bei Pirate geparkt haben... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50822.0 - viele leute vermuten, dass er ein sogenanntes "Ponzi Schema" fährt (= im Endeffekt Zinsen aus dem Kapital statt dem Gewinn zahlt), selbst hat er nirgendwo gesagt, was er genau macht und wie er es schafft, diese Zuwachsraten auch hochzuskalieren (bei einzelnen Geschäften kann man ja schon mal einen guten Gewinn machen - Pirate dürfte aber mittlerweile ein paar 100000BTC haben). |
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At least in my country (central europe, EU area) it is quite common to get snail-mail spam from lottery communities that offer something similar to the OP: You pay them e.g. 100€ a month, they keep 5€ from that and buy lottery tickets for the remaining 95€. Since a lot of people pay them, they can play a lot of different numbers, so they get the chance down that people are betting on the same numbers. Everything they win from their lottery tickets, they pay out to their customers again (let's say 100 customers with 100€ each, they win 1k€, so they pay each customer 10€).
Still in the long run the expected money to earn from that is (as always in gambling): "Total_money_played - house_edge" and in the case of lotteries, the house edge is easily in the 50% range.
Playing on Satoshi's dice would still be a far better thing to do, as the house edge is much smaller, there is no currency conversion risk and it's better auditable.
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Yes, however I rather like focussed funds, not "we cover all markets/jack-of-all-trades" funds. It seems at least people with ~10k BTC in total think differently, so the idea certainly is also worth something...
Using GLBSE for far over 1 year now I a fairly confident that Nefario won't pull a Bitcoinica anytime soon.
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