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321  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2022, 02:41:33 PM
Exciting times tbh ....... live for this shit
322  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2022, 02:20:06 PM
Nasdaq futures now heading towards a -4%

Blood in the streets soon?


323  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2022, 02:10:07 PM
1 BTC = 1 BTC


Liz Hurley at 57!  Shocked



I would
324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TRUEBIT - Discuss on: June 13, 2022, 12:45:08 PM
CONSIDERING WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE MARKET..... AND NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE, BUT OF COURSE , PROCEED WITH CAUTION ....... PRICEWISE, WE CAN ALWAYS GO LOWER......


I WAS GOING TO POST THIS A FEW WEEKS BACK, BUT THEN WITH JASONS TALK, I FELT IT BETTER TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER AND THE HYPE TO CALM DOWN A LITTLE.
325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / TRUEBIT - Discuss on: June 13, 2022, 12:41:24 PM
TRUEBIT

https://truebit.io/


TRUEBIT WHITEPAPER  

https://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~teutsch/papers/truebit.pdf  Authored by Jason Teutsch - TrueBit   &  Christian Reitwießner - Ethereum Foundation - November 16, 2017


Abstract
Bitcoin and Ethereum, whose miners arguably collectively comprise
the most powerful computational resource in the history of mankind,
offer no more power for processing and verifying transactions than a
typical smart phone. The system described herein bypasses this bottleneck and brings scalable computation to Ethereum. Our new system
consists of a financial incentive layer atop a dispute resolution layer
where the latter takes form of a versatile “verification game.” In addition to secure outsourced computation, immediate applications include
decentralized mining pools whose operator is an Ethereum smart contract, a cryptocurrency with scalable transaction throughput, and a
trustless means for transferring currency between disjoint cryptocurrency systems.

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BTW Truebit is chain AGNOSTIC.

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Truebit Tokenomics  

(SOURCE: https://medium.com/gasworks-crypto/truebit-tokenomics-13fb0b65fc67
Understanding the mechanisms behind TRU token value

Introduction
I recently wrote an article about Truebit Protocol, an off chain scaling solution for Ethereum and other Blockchains. Although I had a small paragraph about the tokenomics, I didn’t do a great job of breaking down the price mechanisms that will kick-in when the protocol is adopted and used. I included a video by an anonymous You Tuber in that article, which gave a thorough technical and mathematical break-down of the token. In this article I hope to simplify the information given in the Truebit Whitepaper and You Tube video in order to clarify a few commonly touted misconceptions regarding the TRU token’s price potential.

Key Points:
Use of the TRU token is fundamental and incentivised in the Truebit Protocol OS model. TRU is used to pay Task Givers, Verifiers, and Solvers to run off-chain computation.
After the TRU has been used to complete the task and return the solution to the blockchain (which involves an ETH Gas fee), the remaining TRU is burned. This will result in the TRU supply being -1 from what it was before.
There is a Mint feature built into the Operating System (OS). This, however, does not mean that the price of TRU is static. This is because the cost of minting TRU is in Ether (ETH). This mint price is 0.000422 ETH. Based on the price of ETH today, this equates to $13.6. Although a strong determining factor, this does not mean the price of TRU is pegged to ETH — there are other mechanisms at play.
There is an additional Burn function in the OS as a safeguard for the solvers and verifiers. The Burn price will always be lower than the market price.




When used as a scaling solution, projects incorporating Truebit will need to buy TRU to run their off-chain computations. They can either buy on the OS, or on the open market. For various reasons it should be cheaper to buy on the open market.
Whenever you buy and remove a coin from a liquidity pool (e.g. Uniswap), the value of that coin will go up due to the ratio change inside the pool. In this case there would be less TRU and more ETH. If most of these tokens are being used in the OS to run computation, they will be burned, and will not return to the Liquidity Pool, ever.
Users of the OS will continue to buy from the market / LP’s until the price is equal to or greater than the mint price. As soon as the mint price is less than the market price, an arbitrage opportunity will exist, and the price will quickly stabilise.
However, this is not to say that the price will remain stuck at the mint price, as mint price increases every time a new TRU token is minted.
As the mint price is pegged to Ethereum at 0.000422 ETH, when ETH rises in price, so will the cost of minting new TRU.
The percentage change in the Market Cap of Truebit = Percentage change in Price squared. More simply, the change in price is the square root of the change in the market cap. But it’s important to remember that this is in Ethereum!
The USD price equation, without taking into account the burn mechanism, is as follows:
△Price(%)(USD) = [SQRT(△Market Cap (%)(ETH))] x (1+△ETH(%)(USD))

The above assumes the token is already at its equilibrium price (market price = minting price). TRU is currently 25% of it’s minting price (1 TRU = 0.00011201 ETH). Based on this fact, the above USD price equation would remain the same, except we would multiple the answer by a factor of 4.
The burn mechanism will increase the price appreciation, but more importantly, a dramatic / parabolic increase in the price of ETH would result in a parabolic increase in the value of TRU.
Conditions for price appreciation

The most obvious condition for the appreciation of the TRU token is its adoption and use. Should blockchains or other scaling solutions choose to incorporate Truebit, they will buy TRU from the open market until an equilibrium price is reached. Tokens must be burned in the operating system for TRU to reach its equilibrium price.

If the wider crypto community believe Truebit will be adopted as a much needed scaling solution, speculative investing will occur. Although Truebit currently do no marketing, there is a strong community of supporters, and growing interest from Crypto influencers.

Other Interesting Points:
Truebit
 did not allocate any TRU tokens to themselves when they launched the token. Unlike 99% of other crypto projects, they are not looking to make money from capital gains, but are rather basing their success and income on minting revenue from their operating system (which will pay them in ETH). Truebit will only get paid if the price of TRU on the open market reaches the equilibrium price, and new tokens are minted. If this doesn’t show a sincere and long-term commitment to the project, I don’t know what does.

Investment Considerations
Will Truebit gain widespread adoption as a scaling solution?
Will Ether (ETH) continue to appreciate in value over time?
Unlike projects like Ripple where the token has no real utility, the TRU token is SEC compliant.
Truebit is blockchain agnostic, and can be retrofitted as a scaling solution to other popular blockchains.
Truebit is a PolyChain Capital company, with some well-respected investors behind it.
Truebit has strong ties to the Ethereum Foundation.
Summary
Truebit’s tokenomics are very interesting and attractive, when you break them down mathematically. The TRU token price is linked to the price of Ether due to the minting mechanism, but that does not mean the price is capped. The token burn mechanism in the operating system, and the likelihood of Ether appreciating over time, means Truebit Protocol could potentially achieve parabolic growth. But this will depend on genuine adoption and use. The need for scaling solutions is great, and Truebit offers a workable solution that is both promising, and SEC compliant.

I would like to acknowledge and thank the anonymous creator of the Truebit Token Economics / Pricing video for his detailed analysis of Truebit’s tokenomics.

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A video explaining the tokenomics =

https://youtu.be/kN7qvpns0v0

https://youtu.be/kN7qvpns0v0


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Further reading

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1806.11476.pdf

https://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~teutsch/papers/decentralized_oracles.pdf

https://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~teutsch/papers/stableCPU.pdf

https://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~teutsch/papers/repurposing_miners.pdf

https://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~teutsch/papers/ethereum-cc.pdf

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1806.11476.pdf

https://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~teutsch/papers/unpool.pdf


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Resource to check mint and retirement
https://replit.com/@lpmythbuster/truebit

326  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2022, 12:01:52 PM
Death wick incoming at some point
327  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2022, 11:59:44 AM
Volatility on 4hr maxing out..... Daily got a bits to go ......
328  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2022, 11:45:56 AM
329  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2022, 11:44:53 AM
330  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2022, 11:43:05 AM
331  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2022, 10:42:57 AM


Morning gents

Now this is more like it......


.......once the band aid gets ripped off a proper, we can get back to sideways and up.



Keep an eye on that accumulation distribution on the monthly , I mean, you only have to check it once a month.... should be a safe guide to when we are really bottomed, you might miss a bit of the move but hey.


332  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 12, 2022, 10:06:48 PM
Rightio, thats all for me for the night.


Last week, someone I know, killed themselves.... leaving behind a wife,  and children, and friends.


They were in hospital with covid last year, bad case, on life support in critical care for a month +  etc......... and they didn't really recover from it..... physically or mentally, and had got to such a state where he didn't want to be around anyone or go outdoors etc....


Another member, of the same family (but other side) just dropped dead only the week before of a heart attack.


If you know people, who are struggling... give them a call, go and see them, hang out with them, reach out to them.


"The Nighthawk, on KJCM, 98.3, and good night America... wherever you are."
333  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 12, 2022, 09:52:17 PM


Nice... giving me lynyrd skynyrd freebird solo vibes, love long rambling guitar solos.


Saw the rolling stones do a blues jam once mid gig, where they just went off on one for like an hour jamming...... which was fucking nuts, just blues bars and riffs with fat solos no singing ... beautiful
334  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 12, 2022, 09:24:22 PM



https://youtu.be/4E9ydw_aDMg


.....well, drink alone, share the tunes lol
335  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 12, 2022, 09:18:35 PM




https://youtu.be/xGldFvTPJBU



"Whether long range weapon
Or suicide bomber
Wicked mind is a weapon
Of mass destruction
Whether you're Soaraway Sun
Or BBC One
Misinformation is a weapon
Of mass destruc
You coulda Caucasian
Or a poor Asian
Racism is a weapon
Of mass destruction
Whether inflation
Or globalization
Fear is a weapon
Of mass destruction"


what a G


and another quote "inaction is a weapon of mass destruction"
336  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 12, 2022, 09:05:26 PM




https://youtu.be/AEYN5w4T_aM
337  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 12, 2022, 09:00:26 PM
I am drinking, and listening to tunes on this sunday night in 2022 , midway through the great societal collapse of 2022.

lol


Anyways, hence the drunk music shit posts


It is what it is



(sharing is caring)
338  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 12, 2022, 08:58:58 PM



https://youtu.be/jxNydNnYF5A
339  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 12, 2022, 08:47:53 PM



https://youtu.be/ln7Vn_WKkWU
340  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 12, 2022, 08:42:43 PM



https://youtu.be/77gKSp8WoRg


"Now Main Street's whitewashed windows
And vacant stores
Seems like there ain't nobody
Wants to come down here no more
They're closing down the textile mill
Across the railroad tracks
Foreman says, "these jobs are going, boys
And they ain't coming back"
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