What's your definition of "taint"?
If there is 6% taint from pirate in that huge address, does that mean 6% of these BTC were at one point in time owned by a pirate address or that pirate deposited 6% of these coins to that address?
If it is the first definition, isn't there the possibility to have >100% total taint? E.g. pirate sends BTC to MtGox and then MtGox sends these to the huge address - now they are "tainted" by pirate AND "tainted" by MtGox...
What I would still like to do is to enter an address, get the closure of that and then get the closures of every address where money was sent to or received from that cluster (ideally I could enter how many levels deep, with "0" being the current closure setting).
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He will most likely tomorrow release an updated overview with all assets held, dividend earnings etc. and the current market value of these assets...
I'd love to see some more action towards actually getting the price up to the 1 BTC mark to get the real company started though - atm. it's not much more than a mining fund that pays out only half of the dividend... Diablo could have done location scouting in the mean time, post some nice pictures etc.
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You can earn 0.005 BTC per week for a longer time than the bond can loose 0.005 BTC per week on the market. At least that's the bet on going long on mining bonds as far as I understand it.
As long as Diablo doesn't actually sell (and why should he? He hasn't sold IPO shares in a long time...) the capital gain/loss is only on paper and not realized.
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Investing 550 BTC or the equivalent of a used car into a "company" somewhere on the internet only to be in their board? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Being a donator is significantly cheaper though... and an issue on GLBSE also only costs 8 BTC.
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But you have the 5000 BTC in backing already rallied up somewhere and the second BTC to be deposited at pirate will anyways come from users, not you?
Also, will the BTC that are insurance backing and that are "invested" somewhere completely pirate free? It might be the case that they are "invested" in a hidden PPT and in the case of a default would take down the person holding the backing too!
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Smells awefully like using floats instead of integers to me though...
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Instead of getting 2.5% with your scheme, I could get ~7% on 1 BTC (e.g. with FOO.PPPPT) and deposit a second BTC in cold storage, bringing my total profit per week to ~3.5%. How is 2.5% a good deal?
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It seems that many of the posts since my "I've seen a pirate post" claim that I am somehow lying or misleading people on the forums. Here is the simple truth.
I brought my brother-in-law to Vegas to hang out and meet some people related to bitcoin. We've had the opportunity to meet pirateat40, reeses, Goat, copumpkin, pidgeons, Coinabul, Partrick from Intersango, OneFixt and his girlfriend, BurtW and Scared. I've probably missed a few people in the list.
I must say, meeting all of these people has been a pretty awesome experience. Pirate is a nice guy and we had a great time playing craps (BurtW taught pirate, Goat and I how to pay), roulette and 3 card poker. I also got to spend some time in the poker room with OneFixt. We've eaten dinner together, talked bitcoin and it's future and played some games in the casino.
Does this make me an expert in what pirate does? No.
For all of you that claim that because I've met pirateat40 I am now somehow responsible for his actions, well, you're logic is flawed.
Thanks for posting facts as well! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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This is getting boring with people posting cryptic messages and continuing with "funny" (maybe it is funny to some people?) posts but not even a single picture or a PGP signed message "I met with pirateat40 face to face in Vegas" yet.
Playing it cool might be nice for some high schoolers, but this is something that not a lot of people can afford (going to Vegas on a certain date and time) and the ones there don't seem to be helpful at all. On one hand very often I read that it's oh-so-important to be serious and take care how your online persona is received, on the other hand I only need to take a look at this thread to see less than a handful of people whom I would trust to give my money. After 9(!) pages!
Seriously, if this is the fabulous "Bitcoin community", I'm happy that I managed so far to convince a lot of people to stay away and wait it out until some real stuff emerges from there.
About pirate's business: At least a very large piece of it should be documented forever in the block chain anyways, so just start writing analysis programs and scrapers instead of again warning everyone that 7% a week is just not sustainable.
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This forum became such a sesspit and scammer paradise lately that anyone posting in "Lenging" and "Securities" sections and/or asking for any money to be loaned, borrowed, "invested" etc simply has to be considered as a thief and scammer by default until proven otherwise. As simple as that.
And for those who disagree, well... just wait a bit and you will see the wisdom of these words, eventually.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=10432.0 ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Is there a buyback/contract change policy?
yes, see OP -- Both Nyancat Financial and CPA will jointly maintain a bid wall near the NAV. No, I meant a case of forced buyback, or is a forced buyback simply impossible? Also how does Nyancat Financial get money in the first place? Please tell me if the following is correct: NYAN tries to have a ~balanced amount of NYAN.A B and C shares NYAN sells these shares for 1 BTC each to CPA (<-- I'm not sure about this one) CPA then sells these shares on the market at IPO time In this case, NYAN can have money, if CPA just gets the shares without payment, where should the money in the NYAN account come from? All earnings from NYAN activities are paid to NYAN.X shares again...
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You did not factor in the possibility to compound after dividend payments/buybacks though...
Especially for the PPT calculations: These don't pay 7% a week, they pay 28% in 4 weeks. YARR is even more extreme and pays out daily (except sundays).
I guess the sweet spot for PPT.X is still at ~1.07, but probably a bit below.
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Is there a buyback/contract change policy? Will this negatively affect CPA holders (since the profits from NYAN are completely distributed there) or does NYAN pay a fee to CPA for insurance etc. that will end up at CPA share holders? The reason for this is that I like your ideas and enthusiasm of bringing new products on the market, but to me it seems athat soon you will become overwhelmed and stop to notice some crucial things (similar to goat sometimes...) or to inform your share holders of some developments - after all it seems to me that you are still a one man/girl/whateveridontcare show.
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Who would cover the insurance on YARR then? Still CPA or the buyer?
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Unter "Dividends" siehst du bei jeder Übersichtsseite genau eine Tabelle, wann wieviel Dividende ausgeschüttet wurde. Die genauen Regeln dazu stehen manchmal im Vertrag und sehr oft im jeweils dazugehörigen Thread im "Securities" Forumteil hier.
ROI musst du dir dann schon selbst ausrechnen, ist aber ja nicht allzu komplex...
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[...]costing you a little bit more[...] "A bit" means 1,04 * 0,005 = 0,0052 BTC or roughly half a Bitcent in this case.
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I also thought of something that would pay out for example 5% per week and the remaining 2% are put into an "insurance pot" - once the pot is larger than the outstanding shares, more shares can be issued and/or a better rate can be paid out... You can of course kickstart this by allowing donations (or donating yourself some coins) to this pot or changing the percentages - still the required amount of BTC in pirate's "trust" alone to get these 7% is something that's not easy to "insure" at all.
I would by the way ONLY trust any insurance if it lies on a dedicated address and you post a message signed with this address.
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Empfangen kannst du die Bitcoins jederzeit, versenden eher nur, wenn du wirklich alle Blöcke geladen hast (und "synchron" bist). Empfangene Bitcoins weren dir erst angezeigt, wenn der Block, in dem die Transaktion drinnen ist, mit dem dir die Bitcoins gesendet wurden, von dir geladen wurde.
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What are "treasury shares"?! Also you have a trading volume of >144 BTC already, why are you still holding assets of only ~60 BTC?
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Cute, even my GLBSE portfolio is bigger than this and I'm by far one of the smaller "fishes" out there.
By the way, you don't specify your management fee at all.
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