schön wäre es! da hatte wohl jemand dicke dollarzeichen in den pupillen!  Es sind somit maximal 2.100.000.000.000.000 Satoshi möglich.
Zum Vergleich: Die Geldmenge M3 der Eurozone beträgt ca. 10.000.000.000.000 Euro. Die US-Dollar-Geldmenge MZM beträgt ungefähr 11.000.000.000.000 Dollar. Zusammen also 2.100.000.000.000.000 Cents.
Ein Satoshi entspricht also ziemlich genau einem Cent. Ein Bitcoin ist demnach 100 Millionen Cent, bzw. 1 Million Euro/Dollar. Rechnet man die anderen großen Volkswirtschaften hinzu, erhöht sich der Erwartungspreis des Bitcoins entsprechend. Wirtschaftswachstum und andere werterhöhende Faktoren sind noch nicht einberechnet. In einem internen Papier einer großen Ratingagentur wird der innere Wert eines einzelnen Bitcoins für das Jahr 2025 auf 28 Millionen Dollar geschätzt.
ich muss also noch 9 jahre warten. $28 mio. x der anzahl meiner cold storage coins = .... moment mal...  |
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coming soon to an exchange near you:  yeah.  |
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VOYAGER I  heading for oort cloud, eh? "moon" not enough?  |
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coming soon to an exchange near you: |
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willkommen zurück, klaus. schön von dir zu hören.  |
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wir sind in diesem thread bei 1980. habe immer gescherzt, dass es einen großen anstieg gibt, sobald der thread bei der gegenwart angelangt ist. |
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Ich denke auch das Bitcoin von der Bargeldabschaffung profitieren wird und sich als eine echte alternative sich entwickelt zu dem jetzigen Geldsystem. Und das abschaffen des Geldes ist wie es scheint schon längst eine beschlossene Sache was jetzt in einem Höheren Tempo wie es scheint einfach umgesetzt werden soll. Hier mal ein Interessanter Artikel zu folgendem Thema: https://deutsch.rt.com/wirtschaft/36630-rennen-um-digitale-zukunft-geldes/Bundesbank-Präsident warnt Bundesregierung vor Bargeld-Begrenzung Die Bundesbank lehnt die von der Bundesregierung geplante Grenze für Bargeldzahlungen kategorisch ab: "Es wäre fatal, wenn die Bürger den Eindruck bekämen, dass ihnen das Bargeld nach und nach entzogen wird", sagte Bundesbank-Präsident Jens Weidmann der "Bild" (Freitag). "Der Bürger soll selbst entscheiden können, ob er lieber Bargeld nutzen oder bargeldlos bezahlen möchte." Weidmann erklärte, die Regierung dürfe bei der "Diskussion über Barzahlungen nicht vergessen, dass Banknoten das einzige gesetzliche Zahlungsmittel" seien. Der Bundesbank-Präsident wandte sich damit gegen die Pläne der Regierung, künftig nur noch Barzahlungen bis 5.000 Euro zuzulassen. Eine Abschaffung des Bargelds wäre aus geldpolitischer Sicht "nicht die angemessene Antwort auf die Herausforderung des Niedrigzinsumfeldes", so Weidmann. "Wir sollten vielmehr darüber diskutieren, wie das Wirtschaftswachstum dauerhaft gestärkt wird, damit die Zinsen auch wieder steigen können." http://www.allgemeine-nachrichten.de/wirtschaft/bundesbank-praesident-warnt-bundesregierung-vor-bargeld-begrenzung-69054/das ich herrn weidmann mal zustimmen würde hätte ich nicht gedacht. setzt man die menge des nur auf konten (usw) existierenden geldes in relation zur menge des Papiergeldes, dann könnte man, bargeld sei schon so gut wie abgeschafft. das entspricht allerdings nicht unserer alltäglichen erfahrung. aber die mengenunterschiede sind gewaltig. fraglich ob die weltpapierproduktion dafür überhaupt ausreichte...  |
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Ja, mir es scheint auch so, als ob sie ziemlich heftig aufs Tempo drücken. Normalerweise würden sie sich mehr Zeit lassen, um die Bevölkerung vorher "weichzukochen", mindestens ein Jahr oder so. tja, wenn es kein bargeld mehr gibt, dann gibt es auch keinen bank run mehr. schade, dass die menschen ihr geld auf dem konto nicht auf eine e-wallet laden können, die sie zu hause haben. wait... what? |
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$55 mio pumped directly to some core devs. the very heart of bitcoin. is this good for the price of bitcoin?
I have been reading the article from coindesk about this $55 million investment, but I can't find anything about that the money is going to core devs....?? http://www.coindesk.com/blockstream-55-million-series-a/The article says the money is going to Blockstream. Blockstream has raised $55m in Series A funding to continue its work expanding the bitcoin code base for commercial use. Blockstream was co-founded by the Bitcoin core developer Gregory Maxwell and Dr Adam Back who invented hashcash, which is the the proof-of-work system used in bitcoin. They want to fork Bitcoin to support their sidechains technology. i understood core were the "no-hard-fork" guys... |
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$55 mio pumped directly to some core devs. the very heart of bitcoin. is this good for the price of bitcoin?
price tells you it's neutral. 55 mio is a lot of lube. i think i like it. this is going towards bitcoin blockchain and not to private blockchains/altcoin. this is definitely not the "blockchain is good/bitcoin is bad" gospel we have been hearing a lot lately. |
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$55 mio pumped directly to some core devs. the very heart of bitcoin. is this good for the price of bitcoin?
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op for sure & some of the posters of this thread seem to not consider a very basic fact: if you run a mid-size/big/giant mining farm you are running a company. companies have to stick to certain economic rules if they want to survive. when a company invests it calculates the outcome of the investment. the bigger the investment, the longer is the timeframe to consider. companies try to not fuck up theses calculations, because if they do, money is burned, jobs are lost, careers get ruined, etc. when you run a company that does only one thing, bitcoin mining, then every big or little calculation about future revenue of investments in miners and energy will always include the halving. the miners know it. do you really think there are some guys out there handling hardware worth millions and then one day in june 2016 they get into their office and notice that there are making only half the coins and go belly up? "sorry mr investor, this halving came out of nowhere!" because everyone knows. because it is a feature.  |
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I bought at 380 thinking it would only go up, and you know what? I hate being wrong ><
The common traders emotion, "Why does the price always go down after I buy and goes up right after I sell". Well we just need to wait for a little while for the price to push around the $390 mark again. True, but I see only a lowering trend and it's bothering me a lot Unless the blockchain issue gets resolved or some big news that will make everyone to jump back in there's not enough push for the price to recover. Well if the blockchain issue isn't resolved, btc is dead no? (From what I understood) when i went into bitcoin "larger scale" price was at $120,- a few weeks later price went below $70,- at some point. you will get a glimpse of how that feels if price goes down to $275,- or so. that was 2013. later that same year price went over $1000,- so.... relax. |
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For bitcoin 3 months is very long.
For stocks 3 years is quite long. So it depends on the time.
3 months is nothing for a serious Bitcoin holder. For people who are chasing quick profits 3 months can be seen as very long. Even 1 month is long for them. I don't count these people as Bitcoin holders. Heh, 90% of the time, a week is far too long for my trading account. It's a different story for my cold storage, but those are essentially free so they will be in profit as long as someone is willing to pay any amount for them. As such, They can sit, basically forgotten about for a long ass time. Probably 5 digits somewhere. I haven't decided on my "Good enough" price yet you hold a 5 digit btc stash being bearish? in what kind of area will the "good-enough" price be? $ 2k ? or much higher/lower? (if you mind telling) Likely a punctuation fail on my part... Cold storage isn't quite 5 digits yet. I meant a 5 digit price will be a good enough time but I haven't decided where between 10k and 99.9k i took my pocket calculator and played around with figures concerning my cold storage and decided that i am with you on this one. somewhere in that range. |
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For bitcoin 3 months is very long.
For stocks 3 years is quite long. So it depends on the time.
3 months is nothing for a serious Bitcoin holder. For people who are chasing quick profits 3 months can be seen as very long. Even 1 month is long for them. I don't count these people as Bitcoin holders. Heh, 90% of the time, a week is far too long for my trading account. It's a different story for my cold storage, but those are essentially free so they will be in profit as long as someone is willing to pay any amount for them. As such, They can sit, basically forgotten about for a long ass time. Probably 5 digits somewhere. I haven't decided on my "Good enough" price yet you hold a 5 digit btc stash being bearish? in what kind of area will the "good-enough" price be? $ 2k ? or much higher/lower? (if you mind telling) |
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oh, what a bullfest! some smartass will soon point out that this means price needs moar beatin´, so i totally sabotage this by pointing it out myself. let´s see how it works.
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If Bitcoin goes down my dollars are worth more Bitcoins. Either way i'm winning. i don´t get why no one seems to see the the beauty of your argument. you nailed it. |
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Stole this from Masterluc's thread: |
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