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341  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Annual 10% bitcoin dividends if mining were Proof-of-Stake on: May 01, 2014, 02:52:32 AM
If logic and theory is his weakness, does that mean that your ignorance is strength?

If we need regulation, force and control to stop destructive behaviour, does that mean that war is peace?

If we need government to control our lives to protect our freedom, does that mean that freedom is slavery?


In addition to proof-of-work making it difficult to create new coins, I realized today that it also makes it extremely difficult to re-write history.  On the other hand, since no work is required in proof-of-stake (just enough voting power), history can be re-written cheaply and insidiously.  


The quality of writing on this thread amazes me.
342  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: April 30, 2014, 01:20:54 PM
- Bid/ask strengh at market (Bitstamp): . . .  (when one side has higher figure than the other, it means that price has moved to that direction, eroding the bids/asks - if there is a reversal, it can move quickly to the side with less resistance)

Although I recognized technical triangles in daily stock charts for decades, it was not until I actually watched realtime bitcoin tick by tick trades with a revealed order book, that I realized why they happen. It is exactly as you say. The dampened oscillations that frequently characterize bitcoin price charts at disparate time resolutions result from price discovery converging towards the trader's consensus.
343  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: April 30, 2014, 05:05:20 AM
It now appears that adjusted transaction volume is headed down over the last two days, lagging the price movement by about three days . . .

344  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Question about transaction times on: April 30, 2014, 04:23:32 AM
My Bitcoin Proof-of-Stake project could provide 2 second or less transaction acceptance using a single temporary mint.
345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Bitcoin Proof-of-Stake on: April 29, 2014, 11:12:48 PM
The Satoshi Social Contract

Bitcoin core developers speak of the Satoshi Social Contract as those features of Bitcoin that have been promised by Satoshi, and upon which the integrity of Bitcoin rests. For example, releasing a new version of the Bitcoin Core client that increases the upper limit of mined coins breaks the social contract between the core developers and bitcoin using public.

In this project, proof-of-work will be replaced by proof-of-stake, and a pure decentralized peer-to-peer asynchronous mesh network will be replaced by a hierarchical peer-to-peer synchronous network.

To what degree of severity, does this project break Satoshi's promises, and can the result be called Bitcoin despite claimed advantages?

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Here are the notable promises extracted from the defining whitepaper Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System by Satoshi Nakamoto.

From the Abstract . . .

*   Bitcoin is a purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash that allows online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution. Retained as-is.

*   The Bitcoin network timestamps transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of hash-based proof-of-work, forming a record that cannot be changed without redoing the proof-of-work.  The data structure is retained with a zero-difficulty proof-of-work.

*   Bitcoin messages are broadcast on a best effort basis, and nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the longest proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they were gone. Bitcoin messages are routed along fault-tolerant paths from the originating peer to a certain peer having the role of temporary mint, which echos each received transaction back to the network as instant acknowledgment that it will be included according to order received in the ongoing record chain.

From section 1. Introduction . . .

*   Bitcoin is an electronic payment system based upon cryptographic proof instead of trust, allowing any two willing parties to transact directly with each other without the need for a trusted third party.Retained as-is.

*   Transactions that are computationally impractical to reverse would protect sellers from fraud, and routine escrow mechanisms protect buyers. Mechanism changed - to be explained.

*   Bitcoin is a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer distributed timestamp server to generate computational proof of the chronological order of transactions. Retained as-is.

*   The system is secure as long as honest nodes collectively control more CPU power than any cooperating group of attacker nodes. Mechanism changed - to be explained.

From section 2. Transactions . . .

*   Bitcoin defines an electronic coin as a chain of digital signatures. A payee can verify the signature of a received transaction by computing the transaction payer's digital signature and the payer's public key. Retained as-is.

*   [Because the private key is required by the payer to sign the transaction, if the private key is lost, then the transaction cannot be performed.] Retained as-is.

*   Bitcoin transactions are publicly announced. Retained as-is.

*   In the event of multiple transactions from the same address, the earliest issued transactions counts, and subsequent others are dropped. Retained as-is.

*   Bitcoin is a system whereby the participants agree on a single history of the order in which transactions were received. Retained as-is.

*   The payee has proof that at the time of each transaction, the majority of nodes agreed it was the first received. Retained as-is.

From section 3. Timestamp Server . . .

*   Transaction are gathered into blocks. Retained as-is.

*   The blockchain consists of timestamped blocks whose embedded hash includes the hash of the previous timestamped block, forming a chain. Retained as-is.

From section 4. Proof-of-Work . . .

*   The block contains a SHA-256 hash having a certain number of leading binary zeros, determined by increment a number-used-once until a value is found that gives the block's hash the required zero bits. Retained as-is for backwards compatibility, but the zero-difficulty means the effort is trivial.

*   Proof-of-work difficulty is determined by a moving average targeting an average number blocks per hour. Changed - the difficulty is always one, which is the lowest value.

From section 5. Network . . . Changed - to be explained.

*   The steps to run the network are as follows:
  • New transactions are broadcast to all nodes.
  • Each node collects new transactions into a block.
  • Each node works on finding a proof-of-work [with specified difficulty] for its block
  • When a node finds a proof, it broadcasts the block to all nodes.
  • Nodes accept the block only if all transactions in are valid and not already spent.
  • Nodes express their acceptance of the block by working on creating the next block in the chain using hash of the accepted block as the previous hash.

*   Nodes always consider the longest chain to be the correct one.

*   Nodes receiving two different version of the next block, work on the first version received, but abandon that branch if a longer chain is received from any peer node.

*   Transactions reaching many nodes have a high probability of being included in a block.

*   Nodes missing a broadcast block may subsequently know to ask for it by number when the next block is received the gap recognized.

From section 6. Incentive . . .

*   The first transaction in a block is a special transaction that starts a new coin owned by the creator of the block. Retained as-is.

*   The new coin awarded to the block creator is the only way to initially distribute coins into circulation.  Retained as-is.

*   The transaction fee is equal to the transaction's input value minus its output value and is added to the block reward received by the block creator. Retained as-is.

*   The incentive may help encourage nodes to stay honest.  Retained as-is.

From section 7. Reclaiming Disk Space . . .

*   Transactions are stored within the block in the configuration of a Merkle Tree, with only the root included in the block's hash. Retained as-is.

*   Once the latest transactions in a coin is buried under enough blocks, the spent transactions before it can be discarded to save disk space. Retained as-is.

From section 8. Simplified Payment Verification . . .

*   It is possible to verify payments without running a full node. Retained as-is.

*   Verification is performed by querying network full nodes until the SPV node probably has the longest chain of block headers. The transaction timestamp indicates which chronologically ordered block must contain the transaction. The SPV node requests that block's Merkle branch and determines the presence of the transaction to be verified. Retained as-is.

*   The number of following blocks is a measure of confidence that the chain will not be reverted back to before the transaction was accepted into its block. Changed - to be explained.

*   A SPV node is more vulnerable to attack as it depends upon the honesty of its connected full nodes. Retained as-is.

From section 9. Combining and Splitting Value . . .

*   To allow value to split and combined, transactions contain multiple inputs and outputs.  Retained as-is.

*   [The inputs must be unspent to create a valid transaction. When the transaction is accepted by the network, its inputs are regarded as spent, and its outputs are regarded as unspent in the absence of a subsequent transaction having that coin as an input.] Retained as-is.

*   Despite the recursive chain of dependency on a transaction's inputs, there is never the need to extract a complete standalone copy of a transaction's history. Retained as-is.

From section 10. Privacy . . .

*   Privacy can be maintained by keeping public keys anonymous. Retained as-is.

*   New public / private key pairs may be used by the receiver of each transaction to keep them from being linked to common owner. Retained as-is.

*   Multiple inputs to transactions indicate common ownership of the inputs due to the necessity of the owner signing each of them with private key corresponding to the input's contained public key. Retained as-is.

From section 11. Calculations . . .

*   Honest nodes do not accept an invalid transaction as payment. Retained as-is.

*   Honest nodes do not accept a block containing an invalid transaction. Retained as-is.

*   An attack is possible in which the attacker changes one of his own transactions to take back the money he recently spent. Changed - to be explained.

*   In order for the double spend attack to work, the attacker must control a majority of the full node connections, i.e. the 51% attack.  Changed - to be explained.

From section 12. Conclusions . . .

*   Nodes work all at once with little coordination. Changed - to be explained.

*   Nodes do not need to be identified, since messages are not routed to any particular place and only need to be delivered on a best-effort basis. Changed - to be explained.

*   Generating full Nodes vote with their hashing power expressing their acceptance of valid blocks by working on them at will, and rejecting invalid blocks by refusing to work on them. Changed - to be explained.

*   Any needed rules and incentives can be enforced with this consensus mechanism. Retained as-is.

From the released Bitcoin Core program, as described by Wiki: Controlled supply . . .

*   The rate of block creation is approximately constant over time: 6 per hour. Retained as-is.

*   The number of Bitcoins generated per block is set to decrease geometrically, with a 50% reduction every 4 years. Retained as-is.

*   the number of Bitcoins in existence will never exceed 21 million. Retained as-is.

From Satoshi's comment in Bitcoin 0.3.2 released

*    There are checkpoints to prevent very probably needless verification of the oldest portions of the blockchain. Changed - to be explained.
346  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The only way forward is to split it. on: April 29, 2014, 08:34:46 PM
mBTC pronounced embee.

Easy to say in any tongue.
347  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: April 29, 2014, 08:27:16 PM
Sounds interesting.. So contestants can use any method they wish to predictions the price correct?   From TA to voodoo, to Tea Leafs to WAG's to monkey dart shots?

The format that they must use to express the predictions is fixed. (This is a great advantage to the usual predicting where people predict whatever over whatever timeframe and have no scenario/probability understanding).

But the way to reach the conclusions of where the price is going is completely up to you!!  Grin

I am very busy at the moment, but I will enter this commendable wisdom of crowds contest when I get the time. Cheers!
348  Economy / Economics / Re: Slippery Slope's Million Dollar Logistic Model on: April 29, 2014, 08:04:12 PM
So, in essence, my proposal would be to consider Metcalfe's adjusted model as a second tool to predict price variation and eventually to increase confidence in the logistic model during times when price under-perform instead of repeatedly questioning the validity of initial assumptions.
Please comment/criticize.

I believe that a good time to revisit both models, beyond keeping them up-to-date, would be somewhere near the bottom of the next bubble. Perhaps in the late fall. By then we should see more adoption for ordinary transactions and perhaps a lesser proportion involving an exchange. Likewise with the worldwide growth of the Bitcoin Economy there will be more opportunity for small world effects to disconnect the Metcalfe Law model from its up-to-now very close fit to prices.
349  Economy / Economics / Re: Slippery Slope's Million Dollar Logistic Model on: April 29, 2014, 07:59:53 PM
I’d take this opportunity to thanks for the great work done and published here! I think this is one of the best if not the best thread of the entire forum. Very clean, accurate and at high standards – my sincere congratulations! Great contributors too!
With your permission I will have some questions on the subject/logistic model but I’ll take some more time to go again through it.

Best regards,


Thanks so much!

My new project needs this level of scrutiny or it will fail . . . Bitcoin Proof-of-Stake
350  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Annual 10% bitcoin dividends if mining were Proof-of-Stake on: April 29, 2014, 07:51:37 PM
Bitcoin, as a fair equal opportunity system, has produced a similar wealth distribution, therefore we cannot say the wealth disparity is evil per se. All market participants, you, me, and everyone else can decide to buy or sell bitcoins. How can that result in anything but optimal distribution?

As a child I think that I understood what frugality, savings and compound interest meant over the long remainder of my life. Frugality is against human nature; perhaps evolution favors one who would eat today and conceive tomorrow.

I am OK with the current wealth distribution. As I say, capital flows to its wisest custodian. And perhaps Bill Gates is a wiser custodian for his vast estate than would be millions of other Americans should that estate be leveled.
351  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Annual 10% bitcoin dividends if mining were Proof-of-Stake on: April 29, 2014, 07:37:22 PM
Consider this:
How is mass consumerism going to operate as a motive force when people don't have any money or any way to get money because human labor will be obsolete within a 100 years?

There will be no tax base to support them with the welfare state. So basically what that means is market distribution has reached the limit of it's utility and will be abandoned by the end of the century.

The adoption of digital currency will be a minor stop down that path.

I am postponing my artificial general intelligence R&D for the duration of the Bitcoin proof-of-stake project, which should succeed or fail in 2016.  I believe in the concept of the Technological Singularity, and indeed Bitcoin is a milestone along that path.

J. Storrs Hall says it all, without mentioning Bitcoin, in . . .“The Age of Moral Machines”: an interview with J Storrs Hall on nanotech, AI and the Singularity.

He, and I too, think of the Singularity as giving us all the opportunity to take early retirement.

I believe that capital flows to its wisest custodian, and with the advent of AGI, intelligent computers will control capital far beyond today's algorithmic trading. When the constraint of limited human labor is removed from a conventional model of economic growth, the result is super-exponential. We cannot really foresee the trajectory beyond - hence the notion of Singularity.

How the fruits of machine labor get distributed to we humans is a progressive politician's dream. The drawbacks of the Welfare State are removed if no person must be motivated to work. The issues are mainly that we, being human, desire some sort of meaningful work. What might that work be?

I would not care to discuss the general technological future any further because I must focus instead on a detailed and convincing whitepaper for Bitcoin proof-of-stake.
352  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Annual 10% bitcoin dividends if mining were Proof-of-Stake on: April 29, 2014, 06:38:30 PM
In a possible Bitcoinshares world, great wealth amounts of shares, perhaps inconceivably great, is available for spending on good causes without the need to borrow.

Precisely.  
If bitshares are easy to create this is what I expect to happen "for the greater good."  

I believe that the triumph of capitalism is complete. World events over the past few decades and the ebb and flow of welfare-state governments have precluded the mass confiscation of Bitcoin for economic leveling and such. I do expect small percentage rate wealth taxes, which are already applicable in certain jurisdictions, as are estate taxes which also apply to bitcoin.

My intuition is that as bitcoin continues its 10x average annual price appreciation, then large holders will tend to save, and will only spend on necessities and the most certain of investments. Take the example of Bill Gates who, while CEO of Microsoft, began setting aside a stash of cash equal to the company's annual sales. This tactic has been widely copied. Perhaps $1 trillion USD is held as a cash safety net by large enterprises worldwide. Likewise sovereign wealth funds are saved for necessary and very deserving possible future expenses.
353  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Annual 10% bitcoin dividends if mining were Proof-of-Stake on: April 29, 2014, 06:27:43 PM
I am sorely afraid that the instant (or not too long after) the U.S. stops using any kind of threat of violence to support the U.S. dollar, its value collapses.

Gold will still be dug from the ground with great effort as usual, no matter if USD is destroyed or not.

Do you generally hold to the intrinsic value argument, that is ironically used against bitcoin by its detractors? Some say that digital virtual currencies have uncertain value because they cannot be used for anything else, e.g. precious metals have a use as jewelry. Fiat currencies have a non-intrinsic value as legal tender for the payment of taxes.

Theory of money allows for the absence of intrinsic value insofar as the particular currency is widely accepted as having value. I argue that an electronic cash, peer-to-peer payment system, operating without trusted intermediaries has value due to its comparative utility - even without being legal tender anywhere yet.

354  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Annual 10% bitcoin dividends if mining were Proof-of-Stake on: April 29, 2014, 06:19:19 PM
I just thought of something.  When did humans begin to most heavily damage the environment?  It started shortly after the US went off the gold standard in 1933.  The fact that money became easy to create helped finance that enormous waste of resources in WWII and has continued to support our "consumer economy."

In fact, most "economic stimulus" by the Fed is an attempt to get people to consume at a faster rate.  And the faster we consume, the faster we use our natural resources.  

The US went off the gold standard because "it was too difficult to create hard money."  They moved to a new type of soft money that, unlike gold, could be created by stakeholders without work.  Since this money was easy to create, it eventually got created in abundance.  

Permit me to add that banks create credit that fuels the boom and bust cycles that cause the misallocation of economic resources.

In a possible Bitcoin world, great wealth, perhaps inconceivably great, is available for spending on good causes without the need to borrow.
355  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Annual 10% bitcoin dividends if mining were Proof-of-Stake on: April 29, 2014, 06:11:00 PM

No, mining computes useless SHA256s. It's only purpose it to decentralize block production which can be done with POS or other consensus mechanisms.
The belief that mining somehow "backs" or adds value to bitcoin is like a cult mentality. "The bitcoin algorithm does jobs currently held by ..." - except these parts can all work fine, you just skip the part where you do a billion hashes.
The entire Bitcoin network uses less energy than one out of thousands of large banks like the Philippine National Bank.

Satoshi believed, as do I, that miners by competing with each other invest in equipment and power equal to the value of the mining reward. He said . . .

It's the same situation as gold and gold mining.  The marginal cost of gold mining tends to stay near the price of gold.  Gold mining is a waste, but that waste is far less than the utility of having gold available as a medium of exchange.

I think the case will be the same for Bitcoin.  The utility of the exchanges made possible by Bitcoin will far exceed the cost of electricity used.  Therefore, not having Bitcoin would be the net waste.

The cost of proof-of-work is not merely equal to the power used, it is indeed equal to the mining rewards - $557,358,000 annually at today's quoted price.

I concede that this is a lower figure than the 10% of the world's economy consumed by the financial sector, yet it is a waste because Satoshi could not conceive of proof-of-stake, nor did he debate the concept. The existing idea of hashing proof-of-work instead was adopted for Bitcoin.



356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Bitcoin Proof-of-Stake on: April 29, 2014, 02:58:43 PM
Transitional SHA-256 Mining Multipool

What you're trying to do is similar to asking 100 mulit-millionaires to donate all their wealth to charity. it's physically possible, but economically impossible. this is the whole genius of the system. if 51% of the hashing power stays honest, the system works. the reason why people don't destroy the network out of self-interest, is that they can't profitable do so. to move to another algorithm would destroy the system. if you believe it's possible you shouldn't support Bitcoin in the first place  - collusion would be possible to the detriment of all coin holders.

Thanks for the idea about hashing power.

This project will create, or otherwise facilitate, a transitional SHA-256 multipool which pays its participating SHA-256 ASIC hashers in bitcoins free from the taint of inputs dependent upon rewards created by ASIC miners after the fork.

At launch of this project, the Bitcoin Network will regrettably split to some degree as bitcoins mined by the new proof-of-stake version cannot be spent by proof-of-work clients and vice versa. A condition of the launch is that the number of full nodes in the proof-of-stake version greatly outnumber their counterparts in the proof-of-work version, in particular that the major bitcoin exchanges and online wallets support the proof-of-stake version. The ASIC miners who continue to operate their rigs can obtain new-version bitcoins by joining this new multipool, which in addition to mining proof-of-work version Bitcoin, will also mine altcoins sharing the SHA-256 algorithm.



357  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Annual 10% bitcoin dividends if mining were Proof-of-Stake on: April 29, 2014, 02:42:05 PM
I have no clue of technical implementation, as a user i do not accept the costs for mining, i switched from BTC/LTC/FRC to BC/MINT/PHS.

Selling coins to pay for electricity and hardware is not very supportive for a price, nothing else is happening at PoW,  only sometimes hype has overdubbed this tendency.

I say there is no choice, PoW eats itself already via multipools of PoS-coins, maybe it is fun to mine, but every innovation needs high efficiency to scale.

And miners did not tell the truth of what they are doing, "securing the network" sounds like a real need for energy, but to generate an incentive for keeping the nodes online does not need hashing power.

This can be a bad year for PoW, since i only noticed a few critical voices on energy usage, all is well deserved, we have only one world and we need our energy for more important stuff, sorry.

PoS-only coins are for a good reason, it still take some time until they have reached the same age and secure status as Bitcoin - this is exactly the timeframe you have to find a solution.


Very interesting.

Learning from BlackCoin experience,  upon launch of the Bitcoin Proof-of-Stake project, an old version pool is launched which pays participating old-version ASIC miners new-version bitcoin via automated transactions at an exchange. The old bitcoin mined at the pool is sold for new bitcoin - depressing the price of the old and lifting the price of the new.

Bitcoin Proof-of-Stake project
Transitional SHA-256 Mining Pool
358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Bitcoin Proof-of-Stake on: April 29, 2014, 01:56:35 PM
If you are so interested in these kinds of things, you should study the problem first. You seem to overlook some basics of Bitcoin. The current stakeholders, i.e. ASIC owners, have no interest in giving up their money printing press. To make changes to Bitcoin you need the consensus of those who have mining power and developers ("community consensus"). That community consensus is very clear.

I am studying Satoshi's paper in order to extract the terms of the social contract. Then I will author a project whitepaper to describe Bitcoin Proof-of-Stake in an academic format suitable for review. What I have thought about so far assumes well-behaving and bug-free agents operating in an ideal network - abstracted from the real network used by Bitcoin today. The whitepaper must allow for misbehaving and buggy agents operating in a possibly broken network. The new system must be shown to work without any trusted agents. The more convincing math that is in the paper - the better. The developer consensus can be moved by logic and math.

Bitcoin will never move to PoS.

The year 2016 is the last year for awarding 1,314,000 block reward bitcoins, then the block reward halves for the subsequent four years. I would tentatively set January 1, 2016 as the project launch date, because the reallocation of the block rewards is the enticement for switching transactors and holders over to the new version. I will revise a small portion of the Bitcoin Core C++ source code, and create a reference pool Java software program before the end of 2014, and then use all of 2015 for public testing in a sandboxed Bitcoin testnet. At least one altcoin, e.g. bytecoin, could be forked by others to test proof-of-stake in the wild in 2015.

A controversy over the future of Bitcoin can only hurt its price and utility.

All further actions of this project must be non-confrontational to the maximum degree.
359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Bitcoin Proof-of-Stake on: April 29, 2014, 05:30:44 AM
What really matters is whether the users want to own the new coins or the old...It's also important that the new coin is a fork of the old, because basing it on a snapshot of Bitcoin's block-chain means the value of users' holdings in Bitcoin is preserved in the new coin.

Whether you create a fork or a spin-off, the end result is the same in this respect: in both cases you have bitcoin (PoW) and bitshares (PoS) running side by side.  If you want bitshares to supersede bitcoin, then you need to legitimize it somehow and the market needs to agree.  

We should also agree on the definition of a "fork" and a "spin-off".  Here are my thoughts:

FORK:
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A fork preserves the complete chain of digital signatures in the bitcoin blockchain back to the Satoshi genesis block with no missing details.  Bitshares implemented as a fork would mean that new PoS blocks are built forking out from some pre-defined block #X and that client nodes would likely download all new bitshares blocks plus the entire bitcoin blockchain up to the forking point.  

SPIN-OFF:
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A spin-off preserves the wealth distribution (provable via ECDSA private keys) as specified by the unspent outputs in block #X but does not necessarily preserve the complete chain of digital signatures back to the Satoshi genesis block.  Bitshares implemented as a spin-off would mean that new PoS blocks are built on top of some "nucleus" that represents a snapshot of the blockchain's unspent outputs at block #X.  Client nodes would likely download only the bitshares blocks if the nucleus was hard-coded (the unspent outputs require vastly less disk space than the blockchain transaction history).  


By this definition, this project is intended to be a fork, indeed what bitcoin core developers call a hard fork.
360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Bitcoin Proof-of-Stake on: April 29, 2014, 01:48:58 AM
If this is done and working on a testnet i would be happy to fork bytecoin with your changes.

Deal. And thank you so much.
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