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341  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2022, 01:30:42 PM
Funny how most of them look more or less retarded, top left could be the secret love child of one of the Bogdanoffs.

This one even better.

342  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2022, 01:14:37 PM
Jesus Christ, another shooting in America? At this point, Americans should be accepted by other countries (the ones they haven't yet bombed) as refugees on the grounds that the USA is too dangerous to live in. well at least it wasn't a cop, firing 42 warning rounds into an unarmed persons back, this time.

Haha. I actually agree. The more people that don't like this country that leave, the better. They always threaten to go to Canada but they're still here, shooting their cinematographers.
343  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2022, 01:10:38 PM
Common sense gun laws aren't authoritarian restrictions.
Common sense gun laws should be viewed the same as a drivers license or medical license...

Any time I see "Common sense" I can just interpret it as a euphemism for "Laws I want but you don't" and ignore the rest. Be specific.
344  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2022, 01:09:12 PM
Ok whatever.... you mentioned "popular will of the people"/"representative democracy. "
If that was truly the case, that last clown elected in 2016 would not have happened.

I'd agree. But for different reasons, probably. The republicans had continually been served up a dismal variety of swampy establishment candidates so Trump was largely a spoiler vote (Though many seem quite happy with what he was able to achieve despite opposition from his own party and several years of lies and questionable legal procedures against him). Parties have had a terrible effect on this country on both sides.

.....

I would *welcome* a widespread review of gun laws in the US. The overwhelming majority of them would be thrown out as ineffectual if nothing else.

The USA is a gun toting culture. Always has been, always will be.
So get used to mass shootings. (I'd venture to guess most Americans have at this point) They are not going away.
Debating gun laws in the USA is like debating religion.
Just like the thoughts and prayers the victims get, it's totally fruitless and useless. Sad but true.

Yes, probably. Until we have a proper discussion about the causes of such things and work on a proper way to solve them other than passing another ineffectual and unwanted restriction on gun ownership that only really affects regular, law abiding people, not much is going to change.
345  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2022, 03:46:38 AM
Actually Rich, in the USA, thru weirdness of the system, there are some major policies that are not representative of the majority of population.. Roe v Wade being overturned for starters.

Roe v Wade was not "policy" and was not set by the legislature. Even RBG stated that the ruling was on shaky ground. The Dems have had many occasions they could have enshrined it as law but, like the late RBG, they didn't move when they could have presumably also for "reasons".

Though there *are* plenty of genuine examples but they are typically not "third-rail" issues (though many of them should be in my book but there you go.)

Point is, there *is* an ongoing conversation in the US. My point is that many external commenters just seem to be pouting that a foreign country doesn't have the beliefs and values they would like them to have and are usually almost totally ignorant of the facts, the politics, the arguments (that have been ground out again and again), the nuances, the laws currently in place, the lack of enforcement, in many cases, of said laws and, for this particular issue, almost anything factual about the devices in question.

I would *welcome* a widespread review of gun laws in the US. The overwhelming majority of them would be thrown out as ineffectual if nothing else.
346  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2022, 03:20:17 AM
Despite the fact that MASS shooting is on the rise in USA, there is very little USA government is doing to stop these MASS shootings in future. Joe Biden too not very much in favour of gun law that let anyone buy a gun hut still there is no legislation from federal government.

So what you're really asking is why authoritarian restrictions aren't being passed against the popular will of the people *and* the supreme law of the land in a representative democracy.
347  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2022, 03:15:59 AM

 Got one of these babies at my local Costco - great price too.  Right now I can only afford to grill cabbage and bread though.  HODL!


Got one... Don't use it much. Same with the Instant Pot. Ah well.
348  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2022, 12:08:09 AM
Another teenage mass murderer in the USA.

 Roll Eyes

Happy Independence Day... Ugh....

 Cry

6 dead, dozens wounded in shooting rampage at July 4th parade in Chicago suburb of Highland Park

Don't know what's stopping usa from reviewing there gun law. This is crossing limits now.

Gun laws just got reviewed in the supreme court. Didn't go the way you'd like. Sorry, not sorry.
349  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 02, 2022, 01:22:10 PM
I will leave as an exercise to the reader the question of whether, if they could see America now, the signers of the American Declaration of Independence would run back to the king screaming, “Please forgive us!  Take us back!  We made a very big mistake!”

Just bear in mind that in that circumstance, they would likely also be able to see England now.
350  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2022, 11:50:50 PM
There's still a 2.5 Mb limit  Cool




Maybe use SegPic
351  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 30, 2022, 11:48:01 AM


One of the best ones yet.
352  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 30, 2022, 11:44:03 AM
If Buddy makes you sad, look on the bright side:  Perhaps in the long run, a really awful-more-awfuller crash right now could be good for Bitcoin.  Perhaps, perhaps...  #justsaying

Nah, that's "Why inflation is good for us" levels of cope. These crashes may be necessary but they don't really help much.
353  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 30, 2022, 11:40:39 AM
How did Craig frame the matter?

I forget the details but Peter Rizun asked how long (on average) the next block would be if the last one was n minutes ago and he answered with the 10-n option. That had a lot of CSW supporters illustrate the mental gymnastics they were willing to go through.
354  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 30, 2022, 04:41:37 AM
2 wrongs don't make a right.

But three lefts often do.

I hedge because there are some diabolical road designers out there.
355  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 30, 2022, 04:36:07 AM
I like that.  It's a great reminder. 


tick tock next block, and when will that next bitcoin block be coming in? 
in about 10 minutes   


 the last block was 2 minutes ago?  When do you expect the next block? 
in 10 minutes


But the last block was 9.5 minutes ago?  When do you expect the next block? 
in about 10 minutes, give or take.



But the last block was 35 minutes ago?  When do you expect the next block? 
in about 10 minutes, I presume.


But, but but but..  the last block was more than 2 hours ago?  When do you expect the next block? 
more or less in 10 minutes.


hahahaha

10 minutes is always the correct answer.. or some variation of 10 minutes.. like 600 seconds  or somewhere between 500 and 700 seconds - give or take

And just as a reminder, this is another piece of essential Bitcoin information that CSW got wrong.
356  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 30, 2022, 04:20:17 AM
“Slip up”?  With what, you retarded wannabe Sherlock Holmes?  Ever since May, I have been quite openly making numerous statements that show a long, deep, and detailed knowledge of this forum.  You only just noticed that now? Roll Eyes

Are you Jorge Stolfi?































 Grin
357  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 30, 2022, 04:18:46 AM
I notice that ChartBuddy missed some recent updates.  Is the problem on Buddy’s end?  Or did Buddy experience a timeout as I sometimes have, with the inferior robot* being too dumb to retry? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I did recently add some retry code to Chartbuddy. He'll try three times over the course of three minutes then give up. The problem could be anywhere along the line. I believe I added some error debugging too so I should probably take a look. I want to rework the code anyway as I think I should be able to get a lot closer to "on the hour". Currently, it's the time taken to generate and upload the chart then the time to log in then a wait for reasons I don't know but it fails if I don't then whatever it actually takes to make the post.
358  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2022, 02:28:26 PM
There's only one true Wall Observer thread  Grin

That's the original. There were some concerns once the page count got high that the software might not cope too well (might have been from me based on lies told by a different forum's owners using the same software) so Adam closed it and opened this one. This one has been trundling along just fine with about 30x the pages.
359  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2022, 04:17:45 AM
My searching/browsing just now turned up some other interesting stuff, about using Bitcoin totally off-grid:  Blockstream Satellite for receiving the blockchain as bulk data—mesh networks for anything that needs two-way communication.  Will not link, because I am getting way out of my depth.  I know some people who do mesh networks; perhaps I should take this as an opportunity to learn.

Now, mesh networks are definitely worthwhile. I was kinda hoping that Bitcoin would drive their development. The internet is far too vulnerable if the feds should decide to get nasty. There are some improvements that could be made to the networking layer (and, indeed, I believe that the networking, along with the wallet, should not be part of "core" Bitcoin) that could get around some of the basic blocking actions but it really needs its own physical layer option too.
360  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2022, 12:04:57 AM
I should correct or clarify two things I said earlier:

It is not purely an altruistic loss-leader for BTC adoption.  Blockstream also offers some paid services over the satellite network.  (Payable only via Lightning, in BTC.)  The service to download the blockchain is free; and they have no way to charge for it, because it is broadcast.  You can also broadcast your own messages over the satellites, for a fee.  I have no idea how much money they do or don’t make from these services.

My question about usage stats was inadvertently a trick question.  Of course, there can be no reliable usage stats:  The system is the most anonymous possible way to obtain the Bitcoin blockchain.  Although Blockstream themselves surely must have stats on how many kits they have sold, there does not exist any way to track who uses it with DIY hardware.  It is a way to obtain the blockchain even more anonymously than through Tor.

The file option is actually interesting to me. The ability to broadcast data over a wide area for effectively a low one-off fee could have interesting use cases, particularly if the size of the satellite dish required could be minimized. Of course, that's not really a Bitcoin thing. It doesn't appear to be a source of income for them though. They have an info page and it looks like they're currently averaging 1-2 messages a day and I bet most of those are of the test message type. https://www.blockstream.com/satellite-queue/

I see that they now offer download of the Bitcoin source code via satellite.  No Internet required to get the source!  LOL.  Craight Wright must love that.

Presumably a "just for fun" proof of concept type thing but fair enough.

As to not hearing about v2 and not being able to tell how many users... Well, it's not exactly all over the news and one would assume Blockstream would be crowing about it if it was a roaring success.

Unfortunately, it's a bit tricky digging the info out of their site so I'm not sure what the bandwidth looks like. They say 25x what it was for v1 but that was only pushing 6MB/hour. I'm sure it wasn't saturated (unlike Bitcoin) but it seems likely that grabbing the full blockchain would take a while. Vapourminer might be better off visiting his local library. It definitely sounds like it isn't as completely useless as v1 but it's not clear by how much.
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