I could give a rat's ass who agrees with me. The fact of the matter is that your whole sob-session is completely classless. I view it akin to a child throwing a fit in a Walmart toy section, except the child is an adult and the toy section is a bunch of people who don't give a fuck and are laughing at you.
Well, your class is certainly showing now, isn't it? Don't feel bad for me. I'm a very happy individual.
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2.) It is equally ignorant/offensive to assume that someone should use GMT or UTC simply because x number of people believe it is the most-common point of reference.
While UTC is the only Universally Coordinated Time, it is true that there are numerous other possible and asinine assumptions one could have made. But either (1) you assumed without question that your own timezone rather than at least 24 other possibilities was the official definitive zone, or (2) you believed that there would be at least 24 different potential sets of rules subject to each individual player's location. Please, which delusion seduced you, or is there some third assumption? Tell me, since it was not specifically articulated: did you assume that $4 represented four US dollars? Why is that? Because you live in the United States? What about Canadians? Could they have assumed Canadian dollars without question? Mexicans might have assumed four pesos, as they too use the $ sign. I'm sure our Australian, central American, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Taiwanese friends were equally baffled. Please tell me why I, a U.S. citizen, who because of having ready internet access should be one of the most likely people to know what UTC means, had never even heard of UTC until this game? What's more ridiculous is that people keep shrieking on about "UTC! You should have assumed UTC!" when the game itself didn't even assume UTC, even after the rule change. In reponse to your point (1), actually, I assumed all time zones because I assumed that each guess was made according to whatever timezone the player uses. This leads to addressing your 2nd point (2) because it means that there is only 1 set of rules. A good rule structure both (1) distributes evenly to all players and (2) takes into account individual circumstance. The laws of the universe certainly act this way (gravity and light, anyone?). According to my assumption, each person makes a guess according to their individual timezone, but the forum itself serves as an objective reference point to determine who guessed first (you can simply view the order in which the guesses were posted). So, in the event that any 2 people guessed correctly according to their time zone as was the case between me and Goat, all you have to do is see whose post appeared first in the thread. That was me. Hence I won. I'm not even going to explain again why the rule change completely affected the statistical nature of the game, which is a separate issue. In any case, neither of your 2 points represent any "delusion" that "seduced" me. Yes, I assumed $4 represented 4 US dollars. Didn't many people? Isn't $ the symbol for the US dollar? I didn't know $ was used to denote yen or some other currency. But, your point is good. In fact, I'm sure many of the people who played the game assumed the same thing, but flamed me anyway for my assumption of local time zone (which is MUCH different from assuming US central time).
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Just because the world thinks I am wrong doesn't mean I am! You're all just jealous! I do what I want!
My name is RandyFolds! I can shout nonsense! I'm clearly right and clearly hilarious because more people side with me and are saying the same kinds of things I'm saying! I have approval! I knew that I must be smarter than I originally thought!
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Just re-use this thread, like this:
This one time, this guy told me he would give me 10 BTC, and then he didn't, waaa, waaa. Life is so unfair. Please give me the 10 BTC that guy totally promised he would send me. He OWES me. I will argue until the cows come home that he owes me because he said he would give it to me (waaaa, waaaa).
Bruce, seriously, you're the absolute last person that should be giving me a lesson in ethics. I need to go wash my hands now. You seem to be confused about who is mocking you...bwagner is not Bruce, fella. You seem to be confused and think I'm actually offended by anybody on this forum that "mocks" me regarding this situation. I could be threatened with being banned for life from Bitcointalk, and it won't change my position. I'm very comfortable and happy with my stance. Just because 50 some-odd people disagree doesn't mean any one of them is correct. You know what you sound like...a typical american ultra-entitled college kid. You know what you sound like? Someone who throws out cliche garbage because it sounds good while thinking to yourself, "Ooooo, I got him that time...I hit him with cultural insensitivity." Please, I do social work and the majority of my clients are minority clients, and I've been praised by the clients themselves for my cultural sensitivity, most notably my ability to listen and not judge. You don't know jack. Quit being upset because I was graciously given 7 BTC by people who either sympathized or agreed with me. Two can play this faulty assumption game. Edit: Did you know that those who spend more time using online forms of communication are more likely to extract information or emotions from a conversation that are actually nonexistant? Language is important, and I recommend you pay more attention to what is actually said vs. finding ways to infer fallacious nonsense for the sole purpose of antagonizing me.
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Just re-use this thread, like this:
This one time, this guy told me he would give me 10 BTC, and then he didn't, waaa, waaa. Life is so unfair. Please give me the 10 BTC that guy totally promised he would send me. He OWES me. I will argue until the cows come home that he owes me because he said he would give it to me (waaaa, waaaa).
Bruce, seriously, you're the absolute last person that should be giving me a lesson in ethics. I need to go wash my hands now. You seem to be confused about who is mocking you...bwagner is not Bruce, fella. You seem to be confused and think I'm actually offended by anybody on this forum that "mocks" me regarding this situation. I could be threatened with being banned for life from Bitcointalk, and it won't change my position. I'm very comfortable and happy with my stance. Just because 50 some-odd people disagree doesn't mean any one of them is correct.
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Not Bruce - just give me 10 BTC and I will leave this thread I'm happy for you that you're not Bruce lol.
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Just re-use this thread, like this:
This one time, this guy told me he would give me 10 BTC, and then he didn't, waaa, waaa. Life is so unfair. Please give me the 10 BTC that guy totally promised he would send me. He OWES me. I will argue until the cows come home that he owes me because he said he would give it to me (waaaa, waaaa).
Bruce, seriously, you're the absolute last person that should be giving me a lesson in ethics. I need to go wash my hands now.
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Can I also get 7BTC if I start a whiner thread? If, at the very least, you think you are correct and will argue it relentlessly, then yes....yes you can. FTFY Thank you for taking the time to do so.
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Can I also get 7BTC if I start a whiner thread? If, at the very least, you are correct, then yes....yes you can.
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Best of luck to all
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Jan. 5, 2012. According to whatever rules hath been deemed honorable by the One Most High. I hereby decline any and all
Also already taken... Wouldnt want to see you whine if it did come to pass on that day. I still don't know how the hell you managed to swindle 7 coins out of that deal. My entire BTC balance is 10 so this would be like a double up to me. Dude, honestly, let it go. "Karma" ran its inevitable course, and there's a likely chance your entire party was on the shorter end of the karmic stick. "Fallacy is not made true by multiplied propagation, nor is truth made into fallacy because nobody will believe it." Thats funny we were all telling you to let it go. What party would that be by the way? As far as I knew I am an individual and not part of any "party". Karma definitely did not run its course or you would have gotten nothing. I am glad you will not bitch and whine about the results of this contest however. I won't. Will you also stop whining and bitching about those who you think whine and bitch and set the good example?
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Jan. 5, 2012. According to whatever rules hath been deemed honorable by the One Most High. I hereby decline any and all
Also already taken... Wouldnt want to see you whine if it did come to pass on that day. I still don't know how the hell you managed to swindle 7 coins out of that deal. My entire BTC balance is 10 so this would be like a double up to me. Dude, honestly, let it go. "Karma" ran its inevitable course, and there's a likely chance your entire party was on the shorter end of the karmic stick. "Fallacy is not made true by multiplied propagation, nor is truth made into fallacy because nobody will believe it."
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^^^....hereby withdraw any right to a fair trial and agree not to bitch, complain, argue, or whine about the final decision.
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Jan. 5, 2012. According to whatever rules hath been deemed honorable by the One Most High. I hereby decline any and all
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I'll refrain from calling you a whiner.
You do whine an awful lot though.
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It's pretty interesting that people are getting on my case about "not assuming UTC" or "not assuming GMT" when: 1.) Apparently there are different opinions among community members about what the "obvious assumption" is, and 2.) It is equally ignorant/offensive to assume that someone should use GMT or UTC simply because x number of people believe it is the most-common point of reference. If anything, I think assuming the person's local time-zone as a point of reference is the least ignorant and least offensive solution, for it does not "force" anything upon anyone.
Apparently, if there are at least 3 different opinions floating around (those that agree with me and both those that faulted me for not assuming GMT and UTC), then obviously it's not such a clear cut situation after all.
The amount of time invested by some members of the community in calling me a "whiner" when I, myself, have refrained from name-calling and have remained very civil in the matter given the level of scrutiny I have received (albeit my first couple of posts after OldEngineer proclaimed Goat as the Winner were not as civil...I thought OldEngineer didn't care to check far back enough to see that I had won), does not an angel make. Moreover, claiming that my "karma" is kicking my ass and I don't even know it could be quite far from the truth...after all, maybe karma is with me on this one and thats why it sent me 7 BTC and not 5 BTC. Anyone care to assume they know what universal justice is?
All I have done is continue to repeat and defend my decision according to the rules of the game in the order that they were implemented.
I stand my ground and I am content with what I have said, content with my position, and content with where the original 5 (10) BTC in question ended up.
Continue to flame if you wish, but please, really bad assumptions, tangential arguments, ad-homs, hypothetical propositions, and otherwise do not make you smarter or cooler simply because a lot of other people, though they may happen to agree with you, are also using them.
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My Timmy impression is spot on.
Most every member here has a Timmy impression that is spot on. This truly doesn't surprise me. Here's a video having members using their finest Timmy impression for one of Matthew's upcoming shows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP8KZEyrtjUHaha I assume their Ned is spot on as well?
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I see absolutely no fault on the part of old_engineer. Probably I would have done exactly the same thing if it was my contest and I had forgotten to specify a timezone.
It could be more easily argued that you were in violation of the contest rules because you did not specify a single exact date. A date given without a timezone could apply to multiple real dates.
Thanks for the opinion, Theymos. I disagree, but thanks.
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My Timmy impression is spot on.
Most every member here has a Timmy impression that is spot on. This truly doesn't surprise me.
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...Dare I ask if I'm eligible to vote?
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