Maybe someone else wants to finish it.
Ideas are cheap. Anyone can say "I want to live on the moon". Yeah, that's a neat idea. The question is - how are you going to do it? Implementation is everything. Small day-to-day decisions during project development. So, sorry, I see no point, let's leave it at that. So in essence there is no prove that you even have an idea, let alone some project on hold  |
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Care to tell us anything about this "big project"? I mean it is on hold anyway...
No. Precisely because it is on hold and there is nothing to show. What's the point? To gather all the "boo's" from all the booers? When something is done you can always tell them - "say what you want, but this is done and working". When there is nothing to show - what's the point? and maybe it is a good idea and some other developer does not care as much as you about BW/mybitcoin.
Maybe someone else wants to finish it. |
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Best part about most of what you guys seem to be making out as his 'crazy talk', will be 'holy fuck he was a genius talk' after he succeeds. This post made with ego stroking purposes only as a way to attempt to deflect all the hate. I do not fully believe what I typed Well, if coinhunter succeeds someday we are all domed, because coinhunter has the intelligence of Pinky and the attitude of Brain. |
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I’d say we need to polish the Bitcoin client
That could be very easy, one "only" has convince Gavin to use bitcoin-qt. |
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So apparently your project depend on BW and/or mybitcoin...
Apparently?! Who's trolling now? Let us go over your points: I've started a big project, now it is on hold for several month already.
Reasons? Total mess and lack of clear leadership of BitCoin (not that I pretend), uncertain BitCoin fate with all the scandals, hacks, legal problems, scalability issues, and again - the general mess and the amount of morons, nobody can do anything about.
No fundamentals have changed. Bitcoin is the same as a few month ago. I guess with scandals you mean BW, and by hacks you mean mybitcoin. There are no other issues in bitcoin, apart from very imaginary ones like it could not be up to task of serving billions of users *tomorrow*. I really hope your project does not depend on the actual number of morons on this very forum. So that leaves only BW and mybitcoin. Care to tell us anything about this "big project"? I mean it is on hold anyway, and maybe it is a good idea and some other developer does not care as much as you about BW/mybitcoin. |
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Missing options: - coinhunter
- the_duke
- shitcoins
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Money is a false incentive.
Exactly. I am a developer. Money is not the issue. I've started a big project, now it is on hold for several month already. Reasons? Total mess and lack of clear leadership of BitCoin (not that I pretend), uncertain BitCoin fate with all the scandals, hacks, legal problems, scalability issues, and again - the general mess and the amount of morons, nobody can do anything about. It's just a mess now. I guess we have to let it sort of die out, the price to drop to 1-2 dollars, morons get tired and move to new online "adventures" and then this project can quietly and slowly begin to evolve into something usable... So apparently your project depend on BW and/or mybitcoin, so it is great that it wont see the light. If not, nice trolling attempt. |
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Better off to let it die and be done with the whole sorry affair.
It's ixcoins that really need to die. 580,000 pre-mined coins. Ugh. And some people actually believe it's not a scam. Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
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Sorry if it was not clear to everyone that this was a joke.
I posted this message before the release of 1.04, when Bitparking explained that they had to temporarily close their exchange, and that they were hoping that 1.04 would be released and fix things.
The features I described were a revert to Bitcoin's original design choices (well, the serious ones, of course)
Judging from the quality of the actual solidcoin releases, your joke version would probably still have been the better one |
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I believe that MrMoon is running a trustworthy site.
The issue I identified isn't any sort of scam or "convenient math" or some crap like that -- it's a peculiarity of computer science that isn't actually explained in most textbooks for some ridiculous reason. As I told Moon when we spoke on AIM about it in detail, I have run into examples of this class of bug many, many, many times in my more than 20 years as a programmer. And moonco.in also isn't the first Bitcoin-or-friends exchange to have this same class of bug when it was new, either. I am aware of one other that acknowledged it, and one more where it could be proven but they quietly fixed it without admitting the mistake. @wolftaur helping to fix problems and bugs that you find is really fantastic. I am so pleased to see the community working together to make a better *coin system.  When *coin (whatever the flavour) goes mainstream the people who actually helped perfect the system will be remembered. I'm a computer geek. I like teaching solutions to computer science problems and things like that. Honestly, the thing about SolidCoin that had pretty much gotten me really ticked off was that when ArtForz first described issues in SolidCoin I went to CoinHunter privately and tried to volunteer to help, and he flipped out on me. And for a bit I had sort of lumped Mr.Moon in as being the same type because of a few posts going around when everyone was pissed about CoinHunter trying to make SolidCoin closed-source in direct violation of the rights of the original developers. (Seriously, as a programmer, I'm really pissed when someone like CoinHunter steals someone else's code. Yes, steals, he changed the license, removed copyrights crediting the actual creators, specifically denied rights to the Bitcoin developers...) But when Mr.Moon made a serious comment about wanting to improve the exchange? Well, I'm a computer geek first, an opinionated forum member second.  And if the result is some interesting bugs that are from an obscure and neglected part of computer science get fixed I'm happy! And this, right here, is what community is supposed to be about in software development. I'm not even a user of the moonco.in exchange, and I suspect Mr.Moon knew that, but I was still completely willing to offer help when she was willing to ask for it. Everyone who uses the exchange will get to benefit, and by extension, everyone with an interest in the currency, and the whole concept of cryptocurrency in general gets to be legitimized when two people who started the evening at each others throats can toss that aside to go fix an interesting geek problem. @wolftaur: good job So apparently MrMoon is not an idiot, not as coinhunter. MrMoon even acknowledged that coinhunter is a dick. Now that leaves the question, why should someone rational expose himself to some coinhunter software and all its daily bugs? Coinhunter/realsolid does not even care if he introduces new bugs: noagendamarket> I mean they have to be very careful because of the value of the bitcoin ecoinomy
noagendamarket> Every bug change has to be tested thouroughly
RealSolid> noagendamarket: right, thats just an explanation for lack of development
noagendamarket> Its one explanation
RealSolid> well they can have their slow and buggy product, even if i do introduce a few bugs (Like in 1.03 tx)
RealSolid> i fix them quickly (1.04)
He is even proud to do no testing. So how can someone having a sane mind implement some exchange on top of this? |
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2010: 100%
2011: 50%
So bitcoin had lets say 75% inflation from summer last year to summer this year, yet it managed to go from $0.06 to ~$10. Apparently inflation is not the most important factor. |
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To the OP it is fine if you want to develop a "open source" alternative to my "open source" program. Good luck with outpacing my development though. Just wondering when you are going to add more vuln. fixes, network improvements and multiwallet support like that which is due out in SolidCoin in a few days? Thanks for the support of SolidCoin, and good luck with your project.
Wow! I think this is the first time he writes about himself in singular! |
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How does that invalidate wolftaur claim that solidcoin as a whole is now proprietary? Because without coinhunters changes it would no longer be solidcoin.
It doesn't, it is proprietary but not in violation of any license it crossed. What open source license should I use?
Oracle recognizes the common open source licenses, including the GPL and the BSD license, as open source licenses. In general, licenses recognized by opensource.org meet the Oracle requirements of "freely redistributable under reasonable conditions."
As the solidcoin license is not an OSI approved license, it depends on your interpretation of "under reasonable conditions". It could be that Oracle does not see the "no-one-is-allowed-to-use-this-without-my-explicit-approval" license as reasonable conditions. Maybe we should just let Oracle decide? |
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Wrong turn! Solidcoin isn't close source, just license limited.
LGPL allows this, MIT allows it, BSD allows it... the only viral license is GPL.
Nothing Oracle can do... it's up to the users to use or not CoinHunter's stuff.
Actually, CoinHunter's "You can't modify it without my permission" makes it proprietary software, even if source is available. I may have the source but I can't edit it according to CoinHunter. Remember, free and open source software, free != free as in beer. The Sleepycat license is only for software which isn't distributed. He made his own changes proprietary, that's the surplus of LGPL and all OSI when compared to GPL, and simple as that... he can do it. How does that invalidate wolftaur claim that solidcoin as a whole is now proprietary? Because without coinhunters changes it would no longer be solidcoin. |
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Wouldn't that have been the better solution from the start? I mean by blocking those IPs you no longer need all those personal infos, no? In retrospect, yeah... but we were talking to investors in the US, and we have mods who live in the US, and it seemed like a good idea to keep it open for play money, so we could demo the software. Maybe I'll open it again eventually, once all this ridiculous stuff dies out... but for now I gotta admit you're right, I should have done this a long time ago. So having this IP blocking enabled, you could now drop the need for me giving out all my personal data? I mean for US regulations the IP address blocking should be enough, and you don't really need this data from any other customer. |
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This is my take as a viewer since the inception of the first Bitcoin Show episode.
Simple put: The Bitcoin Show is a FAILURE because:
1. Over exaggerated comments Bruce has made that has been shown to be untrue.
2. Lack of content.
3. Blatent censorship/ignoring of important questions (i.e. Why an Mt. Gox auditor needed the plaintext database of users).
4. Unrealistic expectations of bitcoin saying bitcoin only goes "up up up".
5. Making claims of security/decentralization being VERY IMPORTANT then having 25000 btc in one place on a third-party site.
6. Taking 20 shows to get an audio issue fixed. Seriously if you can't hear the show what's the point in watching it.
I do respect the fact that Bruce did come on-air and addressed the mybitcoin.com fiasco but that does not take away from the fact that the show he runs to promote bitcoin is a failure.
#1 and #4 are spot on, the rest are a bit too whiney for a free show/service. I think Bruce's heart is in the right place but he let his eros get the best of him with dramatic claims of BTC rising exponentially and so on. This is dangerously misleading and hopefully he has learned his lesson with the price drop. If you guys thought that the Bruce show is some sort of technical documentation, then welcome to the real world. Mass media shows are mainly about entertaining, so it always contains exaggeration, unrealistic expectations and misleading things. Maybe watch fox news for comparison - it could be that you will discover that Bruce is more accurate than some others  That said, point 6 is absolutely legit |
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Forgot to add: OPs idea is a very good one. If all those online casinos would add Bitcoin as an additional payment method, the Bitcoin economy would broaden by quite a bit.
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What's that tell you about the US?
That you hate it, at least what I gather from the posts in this thread. I can see an opinion on the matter, but yeah, there is some personal shit going on with you and this issue. Again though, you kind of mentioned something about searching and telling someone to change this, I just asked for specifics, and even through your anger, I can look past that and still am curious as to who it is I should be contact and what should I be telling them to add Bitcoin to? BitcoinPorn, same as in the other thread, no hate involved. He cannot do this without being arrested the next time he enters US territory. I thought he clearly stated this. It is the US government that patronizes its citizens too much. He cannot fix this, this is up to the US citizens. We've had enough of these ridiculous shenanigans. As of now, all American IPs are blocked.
Wouldn't that have been the better solution from the start? I mean by blocking those IPs you no longer need all those personal infos, no? |
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yet still "praise" solidcoin. You are being a silly extremist now, feel free to hit 'ignore user' on me if you are pulling some Fox news style shit out of my posts... "praise" lol... oh God. Half of what you get from whatever it is I am typing seems to be set with some kind of hatred bias toward any party. CoinHunter, from what I see, is a dick, however his cock size is quite small compared to others. In my opnion. Whatever. "Grow up" I have to admit that I had fun writing "praise" I don't know why you see hate everywhere. Calling some crappy software crap is not hate, it is stating facts. I know from your podcasts that you are not an "early adopter" to call something a scam, see mybitcoin. Anyway, why are there no new episodes? |
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And you posted right after ArtForz, so you know about this vulnerability. I am starting to suspect you are somehow tied to solidcoin, as you are constantly defending it, apparently against your knowledge.
It is hard to read posts made with such hate behind them, seriously too. ArtForz posts scream malicious intent, so pulling anything from his posts takes too much effort in wondering what his motivations behind the posts. I don't think there is any hate involved. Solidcoin like Bitcoin is software, and software either works or not. So when bugs are found, one fixes them or just let the software die. You suggest that ArtForz telling coinhunter about a bug, means ArtForz is hating coinhunter? Grow up. ArtForz was just technical, explaining some bug/weakness, more or less emotionless. Businesses paying big money for people like ArtForz to find hidden bugs, so actually coinhunter should pay ArtFoz something, yet you still believe coinhunter is the poor victim? Go read http://www.incoherentphotography.com/uploads/2011.09.04-07.17.48.txt to see what kind of douchebag coinhunter/realsolid is. Actually I have to correct myself, there is a lot of hate involved on coinhunters side. Anyways, am I constantly defending it though, really? I have not given up on it, my knowledge thus far has seen it nearly being taken out of the hands of the creator for what seems to be decent enough reasons. Either way, not everything is a conspiracy, grow up. If you are doing proper stalking of my posts to make a weird accusation like that, you'll know I have less than 30 sc total, and it doesn't seem like that will be going up anytime soon with the outlook on the program.
That is what I am talking about. Any rational person would have already accepted that solidcoin was a junk product, yet still "praise" solidcoin. I know you wrote you have only 30 sc, so there is no rational reason why you should still stand firm behind solidcoin. I am not a friend of making conspiration theories out of thin air, so I asked you about your relation to coinhunter and his solidcoin fiasco. |
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