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381  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: PHP, jsonRPClient, bitcoind - Not able to pass multiple parameters on: January 01, 2014, 11:04:04 PM
adamcol, does event he first of the three cmd's succeed or do they all fail?
382  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The SEC Shows Why Bitcoin is Doomed. on: January 01, 2014, 10:57:53 PM
DeathAndTaxes

You bring up a HUGE issue.  There is no Regulator at the Federal Level for "money transmitters" the "Money Service Business" category that FinCEN put the bitcoin industry in with the March 18th Guidance.

This is some thing the National Money Transmitter Assocaition is trying to address with upcoming "Industry Symposium for Legislative Action - (ISLA)" February 18, 2014 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM EST in Washington DC.


Carnegie Endowment for International Peace  
1779 Massachusetts Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20036-2103
  
This will be an all-day forum, hosted by the NMTA, that seeks to bring together everyone in the payments services industries to discuss what a National Payments Services Act might look like. Here is why we believe such an Act would be beneficial:
To make the regulation of payments services providers more economical, efficient and effective for both the government and private sectors.

To better protect the United States from financial crime and the funding of terrorism.

To better protect the rights of consumers and ensure a fair, transparent marketplace for payments services.

To provide a national insurance fund for the protection of money transmission consumers.

To provide regulators and law enforcement with a centralized, national database of all those companies licensed to do money transmission in the United States and their agents.

To provide regulators and law enforcement with timely, actionable information.

To establish minimum regulatory standards for all payments services providers serving the US public and to promote greater regulatory consistency across the states.

To allow better communication and coordinated action among the federal government and the various States, in the regulation of payments services providers.

To ensure regulation is consistent, continuous and appropriate across all types of money transmitting industries and all money transmitting business, no matter of what size.

To monitor the orderly banking of payments services providers and provide reasonable access to the banking system for licensed money transmitting companies that are essential to our economy.

To allow non-US providers of payments services with no physical location in the US, to serve the US market and to ensure they meet regulatory standards that are consistent and centrally-administered.

To promote competition and remove unnecessary barriers to interstate trade.

To encourage the healthy development and growth of money transmitting companies and support public confidence in those companies.
To encourage and promote technological innovation in financial services.

To ensure that any US consumer no matter where located, can patronize any licensed US provider of payments services, no matter where that company is located.

To provide a framework within which the payments services industries can regulate themselves to the greatest extent possible.

To ensure that US financial marketplaces remain competitive on the world stage.

To better provide for coordinated action among the US government and foreign governments in the prudential and anti-money laundering regulation of the various payments services industries.

This meeting is for the payment services industries, their trade associations, independent reviewers and legal advisers. This includes not only money transmitters of all kinds, but also money order issuers, check cashers, foreign exchange dealers, web-based transmitters, prepaid access providers, mobile money transfer operators, third party payment services providers and virtual currency dealers.  
 
Attendees are encouraged to address the group, and your written materials will be posted. If you are interested in attending ISLA, please click here to register. Registration is free, lunch is on your own.
 
Help us hammer out a regulatory framework that will let all US consumers use any licensed provider, and enable the normalized banking of these vital industries.
 
Regards,
 
- David Landsman

https://events.r20.constantcontact.com/register/eventReg?oeidk=a07e8ofjkaq22e8c4db&oseq=&c=&ch=
383  Economy / Goods / Re: Press Release: New Physical Bitcoin Goes on Sale January 2 at AlitinMint.com on: January 01, 2014, 10:43:05 PM
You images are missing!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=343912.msg3684352#msg3684352
384  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The SEC Shows Why Bitcoin is Doomed. on: January 01, 2014, 10:41:18 PM
Jeez. I wonder if we will ever get past this phase of utter stupidity and lack of intellectual competence in journalism with respect to BTC.

+++++1

Every bitcoiner should just understand NOT to believe anything you read in the mass media (you should also take EVERYTHING you read posted by the Libertarian KOOKS here on bitcointalk.org with a grain of salt.)

Almost every single bitcoin new story includes factual errors that expose that fact that many of the experts they interview and the "journalists" themselves just don't understand the protocol.

385  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The SEC Shows Why Bitcoin is Doomed. on: January 01, 2014, 10:36:07 PM
Charlie is a great guy and one of the best and earliest proponents of Bitcoin.  Unfortunately his company may not have been operating within the the limits of the law.  Word on the street was his legal counsel suggested he shut the site down. (Bitinstant was one of the 22  Companies that received the Subpoena from the Ben Lawsky, New York State's Commissioner of Financial Institutions).  Every time I run in to Charlie he says the site will be back up "in two weeks."  And that has been going on since it went down.

Bitinstant was also somehow involved with a company called TCash/Trust Cash that received a civil asset forfeiture complaint as an  unlicenced money transmitter" in voilation of 18 USC 1960.
http://www.justice.gov/usao/nj/Press/files/pdffiles/2013/TCash%20Complaint.pdf

Again, in countries where there are laws and regulation you have to be aware of who you are transacting with or you run the risk of implicating yourself regardless of your knowledge of your counterparties illicit or illegal activities.

You also have to look at a companies like Coinbase and/or Campbx.  Two US bitcoin companies that "seem" to be operating with in the law as their companies are still operational.   They must be doing something right.
386  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The SEC Shows Why Bitcoin is Doomed. on: January 01, 2014, 10:05:22 PM
Also, have you read the transcripts or watched the recent Federal Senate Hearings?

http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/hearings/beyond-silk-road-potential-risks-threats-and-promises-of-virtual-currencies
http://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=955322cc-d648-4a00-a41f-c23be8ff4cad

Law Enforcement and Regulators clearly state that bitcoin is NOT illegal it is only the illegal use that they are concerned about.



387  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The SEC Shows Why Bitcoin is Doomed. on: January 01, 2014, 10:01:33 PM
Exactly.

Instead of posting rants on bitcointalk.org we have to engage the regulators.  Are you familiar with Millybitcoin/Atlantic Bitcoin?  He recently challenged the March 18th 2013 FinCEN guidence that says ALL miners are "moneytransmitters" (a legal term) and won.

http://www.slashgear.com/bitcoin-miners-do-not-have-to-register-as-money-transfer-services-ruling-28310218/

I also know of another bitcoin business who challenged this guidance and won but the information is not public yet.



388  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The SEC Shows Why Bitcoin is Doomed. on: January 01, 2014, 09:50:33 PM
Bitcoin can only be a "large scale" alternative to the extent that is fits in with the existing regulations and legislation in the jurisdiction in which it is used.

For the record FinCEN's mission is to safeguard the financial system from illicit use and combat money laundering and promote national security through the collection, analysis, and dissemination of financial intelligence and strategic use of financial authorities.

The State regulations are concerned with safety and soundness and consumer protection.

Also, legitimate Bitcoin business should be concerned with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) which was created by the Dodd Frank act and includes a whole host of consumer protection items that will affect the buying and selling of bitcoin.

Also the IRS has not weighed in yet on taxing Bitcoin.  Looking for guidance coming before April 15, 2014.
389  Other / Meta / Re: VIP Member "goat" abusing trust rating system on: December 27, 2013, 06:15:23 AM
Goat is an immature idiot.  Just ignore his rating.  Everyone knows it is meaningless.
390  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mike Hearn, Foundation's Law & Policy Chair, is pushing blacklists right now on: December 19, 2013, 04:46:53 PM
Any follow up questions and answers should be published to the original Committee Hearing web page (unless they are issues of "National Security" or involve confidential business  trade secrets ).
http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/hearings/beyond-silk-road-potential-risks-threats-and-promises-of-virtual-currencies

And a final transcript of the hearings including submitted testimony which is often more detailed then the spoken testimony can be found on the US Government Printing Office Website at
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/search/home.action  by searching

"Beyond Silk Road: Potential Risks, Threats, and Promises of Virtual Currencies"

I wouldn't expect to see the published testimony before sometime in February.
391  Economy / Goods / Re: Stainless steel bitcoin cold storage wallets on: December 18, 2013, 05:30:13 PM
I think it's a really cool idea, but I don't quite understand how to use BIP38 Security yet.  Can you point me to an easy-to-understand walkthrough?

+1
392  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling it: Peak of $1,600 by the end of the year on: December 18, 2013, 04:52:50 PM
Based on historical peaks and valleys the next peak will be $5000 before the end of Q2 2014

(This is not investment advice)
393  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Chase quick pay scammer "jon01doe" or "ANGEL H CHU" on: December 17, 2013, 10:21:23 PM
The user name is not familiar but I've heard of it happening (reversal from a compromised account then account closure) with a number of banks.

Chase
Capital One 360
Bank of America

to name a few.

check in #bitcoin-otc on freenode.



 
394  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Chase quick pay scammer "jon01doe" or "ANGEL H CHU" on: December 17, 2013, 10:02:45 PM
That was a compromised account.
395  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2013-12-11] Barron's - Will Bitcoin Undermine the U.S. Dollar? on: December 12, 2013, 04:05:44 PM
 Will Bitcoin Undermine the U.S. Dollar?

No.
396  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin as instrument of commerce - not? on: December 07, 2013, 05:58:04 PM
A merchant using Bitpay.com is required to assume no volatility risk.

The bitcoin protocol is merely used as the value transfer mechanism.

The price of the purchase is converted to bitcoin.

The customer sends the value of the purchase in bitcoin.

Bitpay confirms the transaction and locks in the dollar value and deposits the US Dollar amount in the merchant's bank account the next day.

https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-direct-deposit



397  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I have over 33,000 bitcoins. on: December 06, 2013, 08:19:51 PM
SCAM

This is one of the oldest scams (in bitcoin).  

That fact that this thread has already gotten so long only indicates that there are always plenty of fools willing to part with their money.

Noob's look at some of the past and recent bitcoin history of scams and thefts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.msg923918#msg923918

398  Economy / Speculation / Re: China banned bitcoin. When will it crash? Win 0.1 BTC on: December 05, 2013, 04:39:15 PM
Allow me to reiterate:

中国人民银行等五部委发文,要求防范比特币风险。通知明确表示比特币是一种特定的虚拟商品,不具有与货币等同的法律地位,不能且不应作为货币在市场上流通使用。

Translation: The People’s Bank of China has issued a statement requiring guard and wariness regarding Bitcoin’s risk. In a clear notification statement, Bitcoin is a type of particular fictitious and theoretical commodity, not one possessing the status of legal, and moreover cannot act as circulating currency in the market.

This does NOT just apply to financial companies and banks, as is clearly stated from the PBOC development today.

More in the link I posted.
399  Economy / Speculation / Re: China banned bitcoin. When will it crash? Win 0.1 BTC on: December 05, 2013, 04:34:23 PM
"China's government banned financial institutions from trading in bitcoin on Thursday"  (not from banking  individual account holders).
400  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Any other Americans considering a claim against the FBI over SilkRoad? on: December 04, 2013, 04:31:21 AM
E-gold was indicted on April 27, 2007 and the department of Justice obtained a restraining order to prevent the "dissipation of assets."
http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/press-releases/2007/egoldIndict.htm

Legitimate investors are still trying to get their funds back in 2013
https://egoldclaimsprocess.com/
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