We would rather hand them over to Ukraine, it's time to close the sky.

I disagree and you do not have any believable source. The systems are not Ukrainian and every nation has the right to operate their own equipment in their territory and in international airspace. They are also free to use the intelligence gathered as they see fit.

But enough of silly stuff, my guess is that such integration is going towards creating a balanced if not Ukrainian superior sky in the frontlines. Air defences, F-16s that should be soon arriving will be able to see and target with a minutes time with integrated systems.

Among all the list of new supplies to Ukraine, there is a line that seems not that important:


However this means much more that it looks at first. An integration of the air defence systems passed or existing in Ukraine with other NATO systems... what could this mean? Will the US AWACS and predators that are permanently observing the black sea and the frontlines be now integrated with Ukraine's air defence?

My guess is that NATO can perfectly spot any of the planes that are launching the FABs (probably Ukraine's unresolved issue at the front). Passing that information in real time and with accurate coordinates to Ukraine's ground to air systems may be the beginning of the end of the Ruzzian advantage.

Little troll, you have a reading comprehension issue: Branko mentioned the Excalibur, used by HIMARS which is only used for the expensive vehicles - occasionally to kill masses with cluster munition. Please, educate yourself.

LOL You make a claim that "a 155MM shell is 300 US" Branko corrects you by citing a full sentence from Business Insider, which estimates the price of different shells including the one you mentioned 155-mm shell at $3,000. Then instead of thanking him for correcting your blatant mistake (or being caught on a lie) your reply with some irrelevant comment about that other shell? Do you have reading comprehension issues that you really don't understand Branko's citation, or you're just incapable of admitting that you were wrong, so much so, that you'd rather make yourself sound like a fool and be made fun of?

Getting 60 billion would definitely impact the rate of Russian fatalities, but it's like someone giving Japan money after US nuked them, just to keep them fighting a bit longer. Would that increase Russian/American fatalities? Sure, but would it help Japan? Unlikely. I can't believe i have to explain this to you like you're a 6yr old, but here it goes, if something is bad for Russia, that doesn't automatically makes it good for Ukraine, as something bad for Russia can mean something even worse for Ukraine. Now if you don't care for Ukrainian losses and view this strictly from American point of view, than i stand corrected and you are right, finding fools to suicide themselves on your opponent is definitely advantageous.

It is the houses special. I am not sure, but I think DaRude here is trying to make it look like getting 60 billion in aid is a bad thing and will not impact the rate of fatalities in the Ruzzian army? I mean... a 155MM shell is 300 US. 60B of shells would be like... 18 million shells? More than all that has been yet used in the war? A whole 6 year shell production of Ruzzia to their most optimistic stats? This is just to give an idea, not realistic, but... I would not want to be on the other side of this gun.

LOL cherry season still in full swing apparently. Anything to avoid thinking as to why you need those cherries to begin with.

Every army uses unarmoured vehicles, the difference is that Ruzzia is using them to send the infantry on assault in open terrain. Just look for the videos, it is just suicidal.

Golfcarts - You are free not to believe what Ruzzia is sending to the front - I would not want to believe it either if I were you - but the golf carts are well documented for anyone who is following the conflict, and is not behind the lines, it is in the frontlines. This along with the "hangar tank" to transport troops and other "inventions" that use meat armour mostly.

But this is nothing compared with the destruction of more expensive vehicles. A said all is well documented and geolocated - you can choose not to look at it, it does not matter.

We doing both. Destroying facilities with long range drones and killing russian units on battlefield.
Our company kills in average 10 orcs and wound 10 more. So like 20 orcs in a day in average. Sometimes more (when they trying to assault) sometimes less.

No you do not. You are completely missing the point: The US is demilitarising Ruzzia and selling more weapons than ever to everyone. Ukraine is ok with doing the job in exchange for keep being a free independent Ukraine. Ukraine can keep fighting for years. It will take you around couple of years to realize what is happening - like a slowly boiling frog - and even then you will not admit it. It does not matter, is equally real.

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But on topic, time in my view is not a big factor for either side compared to the effectiveness of the allied help. If China stops by-passing sanctions or if US cuts all aid to Ukraine has much bigger effect.

The more the time passes the more it is in favor of Ukraine,Russia has made their economy going to ashes with this unjustified senseless war from more than 2 years now,in fact this is one of the longest ongoing wars that Russia has made,which has a big amount of lost wars except the World War II that they won only because of the stupidity of German Nazi (of course they did the right thing there to stop that genocide it was going on) yet since then Russia has lost every single other war they have taken part in and they are far from being the army that they claim to be,more than 2 years and they have not conquered Ukraine,how can they believe to win against a much more developed nations with much more advanced weaponry,they simply can't and it is in their benefit to stop this war as soon as possible or otherwise if they lose it they have to even payback to Ukraine while they are suffering in their economy really big nowadays.

Be... You would need like 100 missiles to take the dam down. This is not "pinpoint" accuracy, it is basic physics. Ruzzia knows that this would damage floodgates and part of the electrical infrastructure but not because they Psychos in your army would not want to destroy it completely, but just because that is as much as they can do.

You can say strikes are symmetrical, but I have provided figures that proof of asymmetrical the effects are but to put it even easier Ruzzia´s whole economy hangs on the nail of exporting oil, Ukraine does not in having gas facilities. Figures in my previous post show this to anyone willing to see it.

My guess is that Ukraine has not targeted more refineries, terminals and oil storage just because they did not have the native technology to do so, which now they do have and they were possibly on an agreement with US not to rise oil prices, which given the reluctance of MAGAs to fund the war does not longer matter much.

As said, keep some gas in a can, you may need it.

I hope that after the recent loss of the DneproGES and Europe’s largest underground gas storage facility, Ukraine will begin to more soberly assess its capabilities in causing economic damage to Russia by attacking refineries. If 15,000 Western sanctions didn't work, why should drone attacks work?

Or, according to our resident trolls here, more fire brigades and a shipment of "do not smoke" signs from any of their most trusted allies. I expect to see more of this in the very near future. The Ruzzian Federation is a very large territory, which is great when a Hitler or a Napoleon try to invade it, but not so great when it comes to defend the air space from relatively tiny UAVs that can fly low and follow pretty much any route of their choosing.

Also, it seems that the 155mm shells promised by Czechia are making their way into Ukraine. There is a good chance that Ukraine can balance the front to a greater extent. Next year is going to be quite important, given all the political situation in the US and EUs response to this uncertainty from the historic ally.