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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] VAULT | NIST5 POW/POS | PARABOLIC MINING | FOR POS MUST UPDATE TO v1.0.4 on: August 11, 2014, 01:02:26 PM
Jesus christ, looks like some of my coins disappeared on the alternate chain because I was unaware there was yet another updated wallet and a hard fork.  God forbid these shitcoin devs could thoroughly review the code before launching a coin, which is why every god damn coin has 14 wallet updates and 3 hard forks before we can even dump it on bittrex and move on to the next heap of shit.
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POW/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 08, 2014, 09:46:09 PM
Only asking for 100 BTC, so the coin will launch with less than a 60,000$ market cap.  Reasonable.

If nothing else, I can say I have hung out in the trollbox at poloniex and seen qibucks around, and if this is a scam then basically I will need to reevaluate everything I think I know in crypto.  I don't know qibucks personally, but I can say with virtually 100% confidence she would not scam the community.  Even if this thing tanks and turns out to be a massive failure and the rest of the team abandons the coin, qibucks will work on this coin til her last breath because she will feel bad people lost money on her coin.  She is WAY too nice to run a scam.  Unless qibucks herself is a false persona built up over months and months and hours upon hours of time in the trollbox, no way she will take the BTC and run.

For that reason alone, I am buying some.

Thank you for those kind words Smiley


We are all, the team, trying our best to make this a success.

Hey, I don't know you.  I was saying qibucks wouldn't scam the community.  You on the other hand could be twisting your curly mustache with an evil grin on your face, counting all the coins you are gonna scam us out of.

Just playing  Tongue
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NUD ₦ ] New Universal Dollar | Bcrypt | 0% Pre-mine | First Anonymous Crypto on: August 08, 2014, 09:24:18 PM
As far as I'm aware the cost of mining for the chinese is 1k satoshi (the price at which they'd break even), so selling at 2200 would more than double their profits, the problem is that it's not enough, they want to get their investment x5, x50 or x500.


as far as i know,chinese electric charge is the most expensive in the world. even though their cost of mining is 1k satoshi.
they mining nud at the high risk even  that once devteam has disappeared for a long time,didnot they worth a high return?

all the world abandon mining,they never gave up nud....all the world dump nud as shitcoin,they never gave up,never panic selling.

they are the best inventors worth highly return.

who is greed? why not devteam buy nud at 2200 sato when nud is still a nothing coin some days ago??


edit: i am not a miner.i have once bought 500 nud from sixteendigit at the price of 20k sato.and bought more from nethyb at above 10k - 15k sato too.

need i sell my nud to devteam at 2200 sato??

Ah yes, I forgot all about that.  I remember you were looking all over for NUD and no one was selling.  I sold you your first 500 NUD but had you send the 0.1 BTC to the dev fund.  Besides to Julian, I have been doing nothing but buying since then.

Most of my NUD has been purchased or cloud mined at prices far higher than it is now.  Anything I sold to Julian at 2200 satoshis, I viewed as an investment in the dev team.  Yes, your friends are good investors, and faithful to the coin, and no one wants to sell because those that are holding their NUD believe in it's potential.  That's the thing, no one is casually holding small amounts of NUD.  The only people with a stack of coins know what it is capable of, and it can be worth so much more.

But unfortunately, until now, the team didn't come up with the funds to purchase their own coin.  It is a long road ahead for NUD, and finishing what has been started will take a lot of time and money and dedication by the dev team.  Being able to get a large amount of NUD now ensures it can be properly funded for a long time.  As more features are developed and implemented, the price will grow and the NUD team will be able to put even more time and energy into the coin, and have incentive to do so.  Tell your friends selling some of their NUD now is an investment in it's development, and ensures it's survival and growth over the long term.  If they are believers enough to hold their NUD this tightly, they are believers enough to want to ensure it's growth and development.

If someone has 100k NUD and no funding comes up for development, it is just going to fade away and be worthless.  If they sell 50k to Julian and keep 50k, NUD could easily exponentially rise in price.  Their NUD could rise to 1$, 5$, 10$ a coin, who knows?  And they could wish they had kept all their NUD then, but think of how much time and how many man hours that would end up buying for NUD?  Is the NUD team trying to get rich by buying up a large amount of cheap coins now?  Of course!  We are all here trying to get rich.  But when the NUD team is rich, they can devote all their time to NUD.  They won't have to work other jobs to get by, their job will be to work on NUD full time.

You know what I'm trying to say.  My thoughts are muddled, ran out of amphetamines, be back later.

44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NUD ₦ ] New Universal Dollar | Bcrypt | 0% Pre-mine | First Anonymous Crypto on: August 08, 2014, 08:51:06 PM
Block explorer seems to be down.  Getting a 502.
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POW/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed. on: August 08, 2014, 08:43:56 PM
Only asking for 100 BTC, so the coin will launch with less than a 60,000$ market cap.  Reasonable.

If nothing else, I can say I have hung out in the trollbox at poloniex and seen qibucks around, and if this is a scam then basically I will need to reevaluate everything I think I know in crypto.  I don't know qibucks personally, but I can say with virtually 100% confidence she would not scam the community.  Even if this thing tanks and turns out to be a massive failure and the rest of the team abandons the coin, qibucks will work on this coin til her last breath because she will feel bad people lost money on her coin.  She is WAY too nice to run a scam.  Unless qibucks herself is a false persona built up over months and months and hours upon hours of time in the trollbox, no way she will take the BTC and run.

For that reason alone, I am buying some.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NUD ₦ ] New Universal Dollar | Bcrypt | 0% Pre-mine | First Anonymous Crypto on: August 08, 2014, 06:03:40 PM
The greed is really amazing.
I would gladly pay anyone 10,000NUD for a pizza at this point yet I find people demanding far more, despite the thousands of other altcoins out there, people still would rather see the coin fail than be supportive of the network and lose some of their NUD in the process.
It seems that all of this is caused by witnessing the success of BTC and not wanting to be the guy that lost 5 million USD on a pizza deal, regardless of the fact that we need those people for the advancement and survival of our monetary system. In short we have way too many greedy speculators taking the network hostage and too few legitimate users.

I do think that NUD will die and perhaps be restarted with a pre-mine. Ultimately all the greedy speculators will be left with worthless coins instead of enjoying their pizza.


There could not be a more disappointing stance the dev team could take than this one.

You launch the coin with no premine, with the pretense of it being supported by donations.  You then say that development will stop unless whales dump their coins to the devs below the cost of mining.  You then go on to say that speculators are holding the network hostage.  Are speculators not doing what speculators are supposed to do?  Are devs doing what devs are supposed to do?  Who is holding progress hostage?

Real developer:  if you are reading this, I suggest you replace Julian with somebody who is capable of dealing with people.

Don't get me wrong, donations are welcome but I was under the impression that people would be intelligent enough to understand that donating a portion of their NUD would only make their other NUD appreciate in value drastically. So far we have got what? 10k NUD in donations and less than 1BTC, that wouldn't be enough to hire a programmer for 4 days.

As far as I'm aware the cost of mining for the chinese is 1k satoshi (the price at which they'd break even), so selling at 2200 would more than double their profits, the problem is that it's not enough, they want to get their investment x5, x50 or x500.

Which doesn't make sense because if they just sold part of their hoard for 1/2 the price so we can get development rolling, the other half could appreciate in value enough that they end up with those sorts of profit anyway!

Ugh, we just need an external miner!  Too many NUD in the hands of too few miners right now.

I would have no problem with NUD restarting with a 2% premine.  But that would be yet another blockchain reset.  It will definitely not inspire confidence in investors to see NUD as the coin you might not have tomorrow because the blockchain keeps getting reset.  There has got to be a solution to this that we can all live with, keeping hope alive.
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [MLS] MozzShare | Released | New Combination of Mobile Platform and Digit on: August 08, 2014, 05:29:10 PM
You guys need to work on your google-fu.  Official company website is right here.   http://www.adingchina.com/a/110.html

Does this mean the project is legit?  I doubt it.

I don't know why there wouldn't be an announcement on the official website.  I don't understand why the developer wouldn't mention the existence of this website either.  Except for maybe the fact that it lists a phone number and email address so anyone who speaks chinese could contact the company and ask them if this is legit.  It has plenty of pretty pictures to steal though, and by using the same logo as is shown on the business cards in the pictures, is appears to make this project look professional and legit.

But thats all the time they need to get this on some shit exchange, dump the premine, and run off.  They know full well that the average alt-coin trader is too retarded to spend 2 minutes to use the complicated and advanced investigative technique of reverse image searching on google.

Seriously, how did this thread make it to 10 pages without someone finding this?
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Coldcoin [COLD] - with ColdTrust© & ColdTX© - PreSale/PoW/PoS on: August 08, 2014, 03:42:30 PM

So you want 400+ btc for 30% of total coins. And start it without escrow. Self-moderated. Most important, you did give your personal info, but who can prove it?
Shut up and take my money!

you can keep deleting my post. I have lots of time to play this game.
I will keep posting until you answer my questions

personal information provided (ID proof), and also escrow accepted.
and yes, it s selfmoderated because i don't want my thread to get
spammed with irrelevant crap-postings like your one above.

read the OP!

I'm interested but leery.  I am sure you understand with all the scams out there.  If a trusted escrow is set up, I may invest.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][DEPO]X11 |POW+POS |FIRST.CASH.TRADE.COIN. on: August 08, 2014, 07:03:35 AM
Reduce your font size for christ's sake.  It's like your compensating for something.  Ah, maybe that something is the fact that this is a DOA shit coin.  Oh, wait, I'm sorry.  FIVE DOA shit coins.  Moving on.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [JADE] Jadecoin | X11 | PoS+PoW | Next Generation Privacy on: August 07, 2014, 09:04:38 PM
it doesnt look locked to me?
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [KEY] KeyCoin | Fair Launch | Daily Updates | 8/6 KeyOS Update on: August 07, 2014, 08:35:12 PM
Made a few BTC off this one, trying to decide if it's worth it to buy back in.

What makes keyOS different than tails with persistence and a keycoin qt?

And why would I want to use a modified version of tails when this exists?   http://motherboard.vice.com/read/canadian-developers-want-to-make-the-next-tails
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NUD ₦ ] New Universal Dollar | Bcrypt | 0% Pre-mine | First Anonymous Crypto on: August 07, 2014, 04:11:32 PM
The thing with NUD is the team is too honest, almost to a fault.  Do people think talented C++ devs work for free?  Do you guys think Mr. NUD (I'll refer to him as Mr. NUD to differentiate between the guy and the coin) is the only developer?  There are obviously many players at work behind the scene and a lot of them don't give a fuck about the coin.  They want to get paid.  Why are crypto developers expected to work for free while whales get rich off their efforts?

If there is a premine or IPO, everyone bitches.  If there is no premine and mining is fair, no one contributes shit.  I just wanna see honesty.  I wouldn't even give a shit if a coin launched with a 2% premine and the dev came straight out and said "I'm pocketing these coins because I'm not working for free" if he actually delivered.

"Oh, but BC, VRC, XC all had no premine.  They were so fair and the devs tirelessly work on the coin for free because they believe in crypto"  Bullshit and we all know it.  They launched their coins with zero features and flooded the market with the entire supply of coins practically overnight.  If you think these devs weren't buying up truckloads of their own coins dirt cheap before launching their killer features, you are living in a fantasy world.  Dan Metcalf from XC arbitrarily decided to cut off PoW mining because he didn't want his share diluted further.


+1 Excellent said.

+2

I'll also part with some. Question is where/how?

Send Julian a PM.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PES] Pesa - Anonymous Coin - No Premine - Dynamic Interest - PoStr on: August 06, 2014, 03:55:59 PM
Huh but where is the new wallet, one week more or one month Huh

Only way I finally got my wallet to sync is by deleting everything from roaming and making a backup of my wallet.dat

Run the qt and download the blockchain with a fresh wallet.  Close it.  Replace the new wallet with your old wallet.  Start it up again and you are synced.

If you have coins in your wallet and alot of blocks to download, it seems to get stuck at certain blocks and you start veering off and staking on your own fork and can't get synced with the main chain.
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NUD ₦ ] New Universal Dollar | Bcrypt | 0% Pre-mine | First Anonymous Crypto on: August 06, 2014, 03:25:06 PM
The thing with NUD is the team is too honest, almost to a fault.  Do people think talented C++ devs work for free?  Do you guys think Mr. NUD (I'll refer to him as Mr. NUD to differentiate between the guy and the coin) is the only developer?  There are obviously many players at work behind the scene and a lot of them don't give a fuck about the coin.  They want to get paid.  Why are crypto developers expected to work for free while whales get rich off their efforts?

If there is a premine or IPO, everyone bitches.  If there is no premine and mining is fair, no one contributes shit.  I just wanna see honesty.  I wouldn't even give a shit if a coin launched with a 2% premine and the dev came straight out and said "I'm pocketing these coins because I'm not working for free" if he actually delivered.

"Oh, but BC, VRC, XC all had no premine.  They were so fair and the devs tirelessly work on the coin for free because they believe in crypto"  Bullshit and we all know it.  They launched their coins with zero features and flooded the market with the entire supply of coins practically overnight.  If you think these devs weren't buying up truckloads of their own coins dirt cheap before launching their killer features, you are living in a fantasy world.  Dan Metcalf from XC arbitrarily decided to cut off PoW mining because he didn't want his share diluted further.

Julian would like to have 250-450k NUD.  That amounts to only 1-2% of the total supply of coins once mining is finished.  The problem we have right now is that amounts to 15-30% of the total current supply of coins.  Wanting to hold 1-2% of the total supply of your own coin is totally reasonable, the problem is that it amounts to such a large percentage of the current supply.

Unfortunately though, Julian is right.  NUD needs funding now or it will die.  Some new cryptonote coin has implemented a mini-blockchain, I don't know if their implementation is better or worse than the proposed implementation in NUD.  Some other shit coin is working on stealing the delegate idea.  Things move so fast these days, if NUD doesn't develop faster, it is only a matter of time before someone comes along, forks it, turns it into an x17 3 day PoW/PoS coin, and just another pump and dump.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMT] Metacoin | First escrow currency | Read the paper on: August 06, 2014, 02:37:03 PM
I sent poloniex a message asking them to take a look at the coin and consider adding it.  Hoping this poor orphan coin lost in the shuffle of last winter's alt boom actually gets developed, seems so promising.
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][IEC] IconicExpertCoin | Trustworthy & Fair Coin - Whitepaper Released! on: August 06, 2014, 02:32:23 PM
I have to say this sad puppy that got scammed gave me a laugh.

57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EKITA] -- X11-- [PoW+PoS][5000 block PoW] | 3 Exchanges on: August 06, 2014, 02:16:04 PM
So, we were on wallet v2.0, then went back to v1.5, now the ANN contains links to both v1.7 and v1.8, but supposedly v2.0 reboot is on the way.  I just wanna dump these shitcoins and move on with my life, why must you make it so difficult?
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | LION v2.0 | x13 | POS | LAUNCHED 17/07 | Bittrex | Whitepaper on: August 06, 2014, 01:59:01 PM
Whoa, whole lot of LION just got bought up on bittrex.  Not a lot left for sale.  Not a lot of buy orders either.  Guess this one could go either way.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BOOM COIN| MULTI-POOL LIVE|ANON|X13|100% POS|9% STAKE|BLCKCHN 2.0|BITTREX on: August 05, 2014, 09:25:18 PM
So, linkedin profile yet? No?

And really?  No rich list?  I mean, it is meaningless anyway.  That's like posting someone else's personal information?  What?  It's a string of random letters and numbers.

Stop being retarded, move your hoard of coins to multiple addresses like all good whales, and give the drooling masses the rich list they want so they can be proud of being the number #9 bagholder owner in the world of the latest pump and dump.
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMT] Metacoin | First escrow currency | Read the paper on: August 05, 2014, 08:16:38 PM
Thanks everyone for your support.

Alex is one of the devs involved in this project. I've to admit that I don't know him personally and I also can't grab him anytime I want but I trust him and I admire his work. He says he has started to write a working implementation of his paper so I'll ask him for a detailed roadmap.

Currently the former dev and I are trying to upgrade metacoin basis code to bitcoin 9.2.1. I run out of time recently because of my main job taking over, but I'll get my holidays in few days so expect to see a big jump in the next weeks. I also try to create a healthy environment for the coin to succeed (website, forums, documentation, developer website, IRC...). This take time especially as it require a lot of knowledge in web development and i'm not particularly acquainted with that.

If some are interested in joining and help us (Marketing, PR, coding...), feel free to leave me message.

Now that this coin has finally caught my eye, I will keep tabs on development.

If you are one of the small handful watching this project, might be good to hit up Poloniex.  Bittrex would be great, but they tend to go where the money is.  Poloniex has a better track record of taking on the more obscure coins.  A great way to give a coin exposure is to simply get it on an exchange.
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