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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][2] Developments & Discussions on: October 22, 2014, 02:03:22 AM
seems like a fair explanation, and the only fair way to fix it. 
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The truth about CannaCoin (CCN) on: October 22, 2014, 01:13:55 AM
The cann dev has said he will look into the premine and explain everything. I believe him
43  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [SELL] Cigarettes for $3-$4 per pack, shipped worldwide. Escrow accepted. on: May 26, 2014, 02:26:50 PM
Im looking for Drum rolling tobacco.  Do you have that in pouches or cans?
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Curecoin Launch is T minus 5-7 days. The new crypto 3.0 PRE ANN on: May 10, 2014, 03:01:44 AM
is it happening tonight, or can i go to sleep?
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Curecoin Launch is T minus 5-7 days. The new crypto 3.0 PRE ANN on: May 09, 2014, 09:21:33 PM
Also, when is the release?  Ive lost a lot of sleep already.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Curecoin Launch is T minus 5-7 days. The new crypto 3.0 PRE ANN on: May 09, 2014, 09:20:14 PM
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The 80% of the coins will split proportionally based on how many points are generated. For example if during this time 5 people submit work units for 1000 - 2000 - 2000 - 3500 - 1500 points. Therefore person 1 would get 10% of the coins person 2 gets 20% person 3 gets 20% person 4 gets 35% person 5 gets 15%. These percents are for the 80% total coins. This shows how the 80% of coins are generated with each block.

How will all this be verifiable? Transparency is a MUST
47  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stolen bitcoins, help! on: May 09, 2014, 06:45:40 PM
https://bitiodine.net/cluster/13CChHmYHDMCfFpVDjnpEPfsijUUjjcccc

I hope this helps
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Curecoin Launch is T minus 5-7 days. The new crypto 3.0 PRE ANN on: May 09, 2014, 05:14:34 PM
People are going to have doubt and concerns, and debate these endlessly until they see everything in action.  If everything works as intended this has huge potential. You would be a fool not to be enthusiastically involved in this,  at least till a problem is found.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Curecoin Launch is T minus 5-7 days. The new crypto 3.0 PRE ANN on: May 09, 2014, 12:22:59 PM

The problem I see with your suggestion of the algorithm is that it hurts the effectiveness of the science behind it. Theoretically an algorithm could be written that could fold protein by itself so we wouldn't use f@h but still fold proteins however there are 3 problems with this.

1) F@H has been working on what they have been doing for 10 or more years and they have a very nice system in place for validation and all of that. Plus there points system runs off of comparing what your machine can do compared to a test system which results in increased costs for the curecoin devs who will need to set this up. Getting a validated system is quite hard but you would need a near perfect one in place before you started otherwise people could cheat the system by submitting invalid units - a problem that F@H has experienced a few times in the past I believe. Also I believe F@H is not fully open source - because people could exploit the code and use it to submit invalid work units so this code would need to be written from scratch.

2) The folding of random problems by itself would be useless - we would need a list of what proteins to fold and these are normally developed in Stanford laboratories and then submitted to the network. The cost in research time and equipment to determine what proteins to fold is probably close to if not in the millions of dollars something which I doubt the developers can afford. However, without this step done beforehand it would not be possible to start the coin.

3) The whole point of F@H is to get protein results which are then taken back to the lab and tested out to confirm how useful they are - the computing portion is done to lower the number of possible choices because testing every possible combination would take forever and not be effective. As a result more work would need to be done in order to do the actual science or the protein folding is again useless.

And what you said about the Asics I disagree - I think the network will manage itself. 20% of the coins is still a decent amount and I think it would attract Asics from people who have Asics that are no longer effective for Bitcoin mining (such as first generation Bitcoin Asics from Avalon or Butterfly labs). A lot of these people will/can turn to Bitcoin and then the profitability of the network will manage itself.

I understand that the network could become screwed by a few Asic miners but I also believe that as the coin will attract enough Asic miners to keep it secure.

I like your idea of removing the Asics from the equation and sticking with a F@H algorithm but I believe that the time (years) and the money (close to millions) would probably take so much time that it is not worth  it and probably very difficult to get backing for.

Also to address your question about the primes the reason they are able to do it is because the prime computing doesn't really build off any outside research and the code for how to calculate prime numbers on a laptop is pretty widely available so you just need to modify it some - it is a much simpler calculation and it is a lot easier to confirm whether or not someone has submitted a valid answer.

Hope this helped - I don't know it all perfectly but that is based of my knowledge and research someone else on the project probably has more to add/update with this.



Thanks,
Cameron

Well,you say more or less the same as I think, I know all of this which you are saying and see many problems in it:
1) F@H didn't received many cheating trys simply because they aren't playing with money, lets see what happens when they system becomes attacked day after day for people wanting to earn more curecoins...
2) I know that fold a random aminoacid sequence wouldn't have any interest, but there are more ways to to make this more open sourced allowing to any researcher to submitt workunits to the system, not only stanford (maybe an organization where every researcher can join and subbmit workunits via BOINC?).  For example, anyone could upload a sequence to http://robetta.bakerlab.org/ and then they can send that workunit to BOINC via resetta project. I think this is better than work only for stanford.
3) It's discussed in 2) there are many other alternatives to f@h used for foldin, docking and analize protein interactions which are open source and will allow to more people do use the "folding" network for their own, I think this is the aim of a decentralized crypto, isn't it?

About asics, I mean that you need 100 miners of first gen to compete with one new miner, someone with 5 of this miners could break the network easy having in mind that many people expect to use block erupters usb for mining this.
And about prime numbers example I know what you say, for that which I said that this will require much work and knowledge, but anyways, we have the alternative that I said before using BOINC.


I look forward to your coin, when will it be out?
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Curecoin Launch is T minus 5-7 days. The new crypto 3.0 PRE ANN on: May 09, 2014, 03:59:14 AM
Several months ago I remember reading on the curecoin website that this coin would be proof of stake as well as proof of work like peercoin. If that's true, then having a bunch of ASIC's mining wouldn't be required to secure the network. A single raspberry Pi could do that.

I asked earlier in this thread if curecoin was still PoW/PoS or just PoW like bitcoin. Hoping all of that will be revealed at or right before launch.

Also, there's a legitimate reason why this coin isn't using 'newer' technology like scrypt/scrypt-N/etc - it's because folding requires use of your CPU/GPU. If curecoin were an scrypt-based coin, some folders would point their folding rigs at mining the coin directly instead, and taking away from the most important part of this whole thing. The dev's seem to be on the right track with this coin. I really hope it works out, as people who fold could now potentially be compensated for the time and money spent helping to find cures for various diseases.

The coin will indeed be pow pos hybrid like peercoin. Thanks for easy to understand explanation for those looking for it. Ive been told that one of the biggest hurdles will be helping people to understand what I already know about how to properly use the system, I've assigned a couple people to the task of making better tutorials and how to videos. Launch time will commence once my team is all online at the same time ( including the launch ready pool operators). Expect to be folding for and mining curecoins anytime between tonight and the end of the weekend. This is why I quoted 5-7 days, to allow for my entire support team to be online for launch to provide mining pools, tutorials, general support, etc. Im ready for launch, how about you guys  Wink

And k2 is right, this coin is designed so that literally one raspberry Pi could secure the block chain. However I imagine there will be a little SHA mining power tossed at it anyways  Grin

cameronpalte is pretty spot on with his descriptions. Read his posts also. I have to get prepared to push the launch button  Shocked

Give us a little heads up...  dont know if i need to stay up all night now.
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] cryptobetfair.com Now live on: April 26, 2014, 08:36:49 PM
we will take a look at it.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] cryptobetfair.com Now live on: April 21, 2014, 12:42:38 AM
Added prypto deposits!
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] cryptobetfair.com Now live on: April 18, 2014, 04:14:16 PM
Added Quark!
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] cryptobetfair.com Now live on: April 12, 2014, 06:03:00 PM
Im giving away free coins on twitter follow me @cryptobetfair
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / [ANN] cryptobetfair.com Do you even spin, bro? on: April 10, 2014, 07:52:33 PM
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56  Economy / Digital goods / Re: cryptosupplies.com Domain name for sale on: March 10, 2014, 07:03:33 PM
bump
57  Economy / Digital goods / Re: cryptosupplies.com Domain name for sale on: March 08, 2014, 06:15:06 PM
bump
58  Economy / Digital goods / Re: cryptosupplies.com Domain name for sale on: March 04, 2014, 05:35:13 PM
last chance before I open this up for purchase with dirty dirty fiat
59  Economy / Digital goods / Re: cryptosupplies.com Domain name for sale on: March 03, 2014, 05:32:24 PM
Btc went up a little..

Today Ill sell for 1 btc

Going to list on ebay soon.
60  Economy / Digital goods / cryptosupplies.com Domain name for sale on: March 02, 2014, 04:57:17 PM
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